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March 17, 2021, 11:23:56 AM
Corruption is inevitable in life. It basically covers every sphere and sports isn't going to be an option. I hear there are fixed  bets and I wonder how does this happen? Because actually,  some assured draws comes off that way and I you wonder how did it happen. Its only because of the corrupt officials and stake holders in the sports system. Sports is entertainment as much as it is business and as such, it would always be exploited for some profit by stakeholders when they aren't closely monitored.
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March 17, 2021, 11:05:34 AM
Athletes will ask themselves whether it is really worth taking part in corruption. When a tie is enough for 2 teams to make it to the next round of a tournament, you may wonder if that is corruption.
If two teams decide to play a tie intentionally then I believe it is indeed corruption and match fixing because any event that is played must have its integrity maintained and if players are throwing a game intentionally, if even because the team eventually benefits from it, it's just wrong and categorized as match fixing.

There was such an instance in badminton and you might want to read the article: How players intentionally tried to lose matches to gain an advantage

As long as the result of any match is determined without competitive action with an intention to win, I believe it's corruption.
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March 17, 2021, 03:23:55 AM
I think there is a lot of unspoken corruption going on at top levels of football especially at FIFA and EUFA,,, of course we all are told at low level leagues and in underdeveloped sporting countries the rampant corruption is there but let us not all forget that Manchester City who is supposedly at the highest level of football, falsely reported financial figures AND got fined for it.

And still were allowed to play football.

Mourinho says (yes he is my manager but I'm not cherrypicking) they got fined that means they did something wrong. But no punishment except for money? Corruption is this not?
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March 17, 2021, 01:26:14 AM
Over the years there have been several matches that have been under the microscope for results that were very suspicious back in the day so I have no doubts match fixing has happened in the past, however I find hard to believe the final has been manipulated in any way, but we never know there have been several scandals in baseball in which the world series has been fixed on the past, so we cannot discard the possibility of this happening on the final game of the world cup.

The match fixing already happens today, and I think it is hard to eradicate if the officials do not realize what they do is not right. The final itself can be manipulated somehow, but we don't know how they do that. I think the scandals will hide from the public, so we don't know if that happens. It is hard to prove the scandals, match fixing, or manipulations as the officials who already inside that circle will not let the public know. And the corruption will continue without us know when it will end.
When people think of match fixing most of the time there is a focus on the coaches or the players but the easiest way to fix a game is by bribing the referees, they do not earn as much money as the players and they have a greater control of the games as they can always show an additional yellow card, ignore a foul, show a red card or give a penalty kick to the team they want to favour, and in fact this happened, probably one of the most controversial penalty kicks ever awarded happened at the 1990 FIFA World Cup Final in which a dubious foul was awarded to West Germany against Argentina making the difference in the game, to this day there are still discussions about if it was just a mistake or if it was a deliberate act by the referee.
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March 16, 2021, 12:16:31 AM
I guess the team will not know if the corruption is happening on their team because the corrupt people will hide that thing from them, and only people who corrupt will know about that. As long as there is no problem with that, there will be safe and the corrupt people will still play their game without anyone know. But people who are doing the wrong thing will be worried because they will think that their career and life will be at risk if they get caught.

I agree with you, there is no way corruption is done openly. Therefore if there is corruption in one team, not everyone on the team was involved
and knew that corruption had occurred. This can be detrimental to other people who are not involved in corruption. Because if caught there are
indications of corruption occurring in one team, even though the perpetrator is only one person. Everyone in the team is sanctioned, even their
career could be ruined. Therefore, corruption is very destructive to life, it is not only people who commit corruption who are affected by it.
But the people around him also sometimes have to feel the consequences.


If one person is caught because of corruption, all people inside the team would be investigated by the police, and only people involved in the corruption will get investigated further. For innocent people, they will not get sanctioned because they are not involved in that corruption to continue their careers. But that will not happen to people involved in corruption and will get to jail for a long time. The team will not have a chance to grow if their team has corruption cases because that can reduce people's trust in that team.

There will be a big effect because it's not only on the team but its entirely on the league. Sports are suppose to be clean and fair, but if one team is involve in corruption, fans would not like it as they feel they get betrayed cheering for a certain team that there's already a winner before it was even played.

Sooner or later, the corruption will be found and once the public knows about that, they will not like their team, and they will leave it without thinking to back again. That will be related to the morale of the officials who do corruptions, and they will not think about what will happen to them, especially if the public know. The fans themselves will judge them and decide to leave their team.

If one person is caught because of corruption, all people inside the team would be investigated by the police, and only people involved in the corruption will get investigated further. For innocent people, they will not get sanctioned because they are not involved in that corruption to continue their careers. But that will not happen to people involved in corruption and will get to jail for a long time. The team will not have a chance to grow if their team has corruption cases because that can reduce people's trust in that team.
That would be the best case for the team, get everyone in line and have them each investigated as to who participated in the scheme. People that are involved in this kind of scandal often get only a slap of the wrist for punishment, maybe a ban for a year or two but there isn't anyone that is going to jail, this businesses will negotiate for the player to not be jailed as they can still play and they can still be a pawn. Corruption runs deep in sports, and if it wasn't then a lot of dopers and throwers have been jailed.

Maybe that is a scenario from the other higher officials who involve in the corruptions because sometimes, that can hide their prove about the corruptions. If some officials getting jails, that will be temporary, but the truth is, they can handle the other corruptions from the jail because their network is too wider. We really need clean officials who can work to eradicate corruption, and although that is not easy, they need to cooperate with the other officials who also can be trusted.
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March 15, 2021, 06:56:15 PM
Sports fixing is as old as sports itself. But this shouldn't mean that people and athletes are to jist be lenient enough about it just because it has been in the talks for a very long time. Everyone should actively participate in abolishing such corruption in sports as it defeats the whole purpose of sports as a way to celebrate the human capabilities and their innate achievements in ways that accentuate one's skill. As our technology advances, we'll find out that there are ways to destroy this pest in the sports industry.
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March 15, 2021, 07:46:42 AM
If we take it globally and for a long time, then corruption hurts everyone, even those who profit from it now. Another thing is that not everyone thinks globally (and sometimes this is correct, since circumstances are in most cases stronger than individuals), therefore, many athletes are involved in corruption in one way or another.
As far as your question about a draw is concerned, there is no corruption here (if there was no direct agreement), this is just an economy of effort. By the way, there are a lot of such examples in chess in recent years.

We betters have to adjust in this reality, so we would not complain every time we loss and blame that corruption. All we do is just speculate, just like predicting who will win the game and that's just how the game is played, the more open we are of this possibility the more we can make a better decision.

I'm not saying every game, sports, or league are corrupt but it's happening as there are people who are already convicted in doing so, even the officials are heavily involved on it, but for politicians, honestly, I haven't heard a single news about a politician got involved in sports corruption.

Have you heard anything about the Sochi Olympics, after which the global exposure of the corruption system based on achieving results (getting medals) at any cost began? This system was created at the highest state level and was subordinated to political goals.
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March 15, 2021, 06:58:39 AM
If one person is caught because of corruption, all people inside the team would be investigated by the police, and only people involved in the corruption will get investigated further. For innocent people, they will not get sanctioned because they are not involved in that corruption to continue their careers. But that will not happen to people involved in corruption and will get to jail for a long time. The team will not have a chance to grow if their team has corruption cases because that can reduce people's trust in that team.
That would be the best case for the team, get everyone in line and have them each investigated as to who participated in the scheme. People that are involved in this kind of scandal often get only a slap of the wrist for punishment, maybe a ban for a year or two but there isn't anyone that is going to jail, this businesses will negotiate for the player to not be jailed as they can still play and they can still be a pawn. Corruption runs deep in sports, and if it wasn't then a lot of dopers and throwers have been jailed.
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March 15, 2021, 06:35:07 AM
I guess the team will not know if the corruption is happening on their team because the corrupt people will hide that thing from them, and only people who corrupt will know about that. As long as there is no problem with that, there will be safe and the corrupt people will still play their game without anyone know. But people who are doing the wrong thing will be worried because they will think that their career and life will be at risk if they get caught.

I agree with you, there is no way corruption is done openly. Therefore if there is corruption in one team, not everyone on the team was involved
and knew that corruption had occurred. This can be detrimental to other people who are not involved in corruption. Because if caught there are
indications of corruption occurring in one team, even though the perpetrator is only one person. Everyone in the team is sanctioned, even their
career could be ruined. Therefore, corruption is very destructive to life, it is not only people who commit corruption who are affected by it.
But the people around him also sometimes have to feel the consequences.


If one person is caught because of corruption, all people inside the team would be investigated by the police, and only people involved in the corruption will get investigated further. For innocent people, they will not get sanctioned because they are not involved in that corruption to continue their careers. But that will not happen to people involved in corruption and will get to jail for a long time. The team will not have a chance to grow if their team has corruption cases because that can reduce people's trust in that team.

There will be a big effect because it's not only on the team but its entirely on the league. Sports are suppose to be clean and fair, but if one team is involve in corruption, fans would not like it as they feel they get betrayed cheering for a certain team that there's already a winner before it was even played.
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March 14, 2021, 11:45:52 PM
I guess the team will not know if the corruption is happening on their team because the corrupt people will hide that thing from them, and only people who corrupt will know about that. As long as there is no problem with that, there will be safe and the corrupt people will still play their game without anyone know. But people who are doing the wrong thing will be worried because they will think that their career and life will be at risk if they get caught.

I agree with you, there is no way corruption is done openly. Therefore if there is corruption in one team, not everyone on the team was involved
and knew that corruption had occurred. This can be detrimental to other people who are not involved in corruption. Because if caught there are
indications of corruption occurring in one team, even though the perpetrator is only one person. Everyone in the team is sanctioned, even their
career could be ruined. Therefore, corruption is very destructive to life, it is not only people who commit corruption who are affected by it.
But the people around him also sometimes have to feel the consequences.


If one person is caught because of corruption, all people inside the team would be investigated by the police, and only people involved in the corruption will get investigated further. For innocent people, they will not get sanctioned because they are not involved in that corruption to continue their careers. But that will not happen to people involved in corruption and will get to jail for a long time. The team will not have a chance to grow if their team has corruption cases because that can reduce people's trust in that team.
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March 14, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Athletes will ask themselves whether it is really worth taking part in corruption. When a tie is enough for 2 teams to make it to the next round of a tournament, you may wonder if that is corruption.

If we take it globally and for a long time, then corruption hurts everyone, even those who profit from it now. Another thing is that not everyone thinks globally (and sometimes this is correct, since circumstances are in most cases stronger than individuals), therefore, many athletes are involved in corruption in one way or another.
As far as your question about a draw is concerned, there is no corruption here (if there was no direct agreement), this is just an economy of effort. By the way, there are a lot of such examples in chess in recent years.

We betters have to adjust in this reality, so we would not complain every time we loss and blame that corruption. All we do is just speculate, just like predicting who will win the game and that's just how the game is played, the more open we are of this possibility the more we can make a better decision.

I'm not saying every game, sports, or league are corrupt but it's happening as there are people who are already convicted in doing so, even the officials are heavily involved on it, but for politicians, honestly, I haven't heard a single news about a politician got involved in sports corruption.
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March 14, 2021, 04:43:34 PM
Athletes will ask themselves whether it is really worth taking part in corruption. When a tie is enough for 2 teams to make it to the next round of a tournament, you may wonder if that is corruption.

If we take it globally and for a long time, then corruption hurts everyone, even those who profit from it now. Another thing is that not everyone thinks globally (and sometimes this is correct, since circumstances are in most cases stronger than individuals), therefore, many athletes are involved in corruption in one way or another.
As far as your question about a draw is concerned, there is no corruption here (if there was no direct agreement), this is just an economy of effort. By the way, there are a lot of such examples in chess in recent years.
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March 14, 2021, 11:34:19 AM
I guess the team will not know if the corruption is happening on their team because the corrupt people will hide that thing from them, and only people who corrupt will know about that. As long as there is no problem with that, there will be safe and the corrupt people will still play their game without anyone know. But people who are doing the wrong thing will be worried because they will think that their career and life will be at risk if they get caught.

I agree with you, there is no way corruption is done openly. Therefore if there is corruption in one team, not everyone on the team was involved
and knew that corruption had occurred. This can be detrimental to other people who are not involved in corruption. Because if caught there are
indications of corruption occurring in one team, even though the perpetrator is only one person. Everyone in the team is sanctioned, even their
career could be ruined. Therefore, corruption is very destructive to life, it is not only people who commit corruption who are affected by it.
But the people around him also sometimes have to feel the consequences.
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March 14, 2021, 06:22:57 AM
Athletes will ask themselves whether it is really worth taking part in corruption. When a tie is enough for 2 teams to make it to the next round of a tournament, you may wonder if that is corruption.

This is not a kind of stage play, this corruption might not be known to their teammates or their fellow teams and this is not a serious problem actually as only few are doing this. They know the consequences, so they are risking their future when trying to partake on gambling fixing.
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March 14, 2021, 06:18:54 AM

Governments should focus on removing corruption from all fields of life and not just the sports.

If they are serious in taking this down, then it should not be in just one particular venue,

but everything  that corruption-related should be taken away.


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Also if in your country, there is a lot of corruption it won't be easy to get rid of it.

If the place have more corruptions, it's not easy to just to carry out any actions as expect that there are many officials that are involved to this business to oppose any laws that your government wanted to impose.

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Government have to take big steps which may involve prisons to some popular personalities involved in this sin.

Yeah right, if this thing will carry out strictly, there are known people who are involve and be imprisoned..

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What i have observed, that the law enforcement agencies are themselves corrupt so they just take money and keep the corruption ongoing.

That's the real problem, involvements of those corrupt officials, the very reason why

the government are having difficulty to suppress this illegal activities.

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March 14, 2021, 05:18:49 AM
Athletes will ask themselves whether it is really worth taking part in corruption. When a tie is enough for 2 teams to make it to the next round of a tournament, you may wonder if that is corruption.
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March 14, 2021, 05:14:37 AM
In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto.

Governments should focus on removing corruption from all fields of life and not just the sports. Also if in your country, there is a lot of corruption it won't be easy to get rid of it. Government have to take big steps which may involve prisons to some popular personalities involved in this sin. What i have observed, that the law enforcement agencies are themselves corrupt so they just take money and keep the corruption ongoing.
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March 13, 2021, 11:45:55 PM
Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
It is going to be difficult to find precise data about it because those that are cheating are not going to go out of their way to try to tell you what they're doing and how they are manipulating things around different sports in order to gain an unfair advantage, however taking into account that soccer is the most popular sport in the entire world by far and it is the sport that moves the most money I think it is a fair assumption to make that most of the corruption in the sport world is in that sport.
Yes, in a way we don't know the numbers exactly. But I think soccer is still one of the most manipulated sports today!!

Another question about manipulation/corruption, do you think a world cup has been or can be manipulated these days?
(I asked about the world cup because it is one of the most awaited soccer events in the world)
Over the years there have been several matches that have been under the microscope for results that were very suspicious back in the day so I have no doubts match fixing has happened in the past, however I find hard to believe the final has been manipulated in any way, but we never know there have been several scandals in baseball in which the world series has been fixed on the past, so we cannot discard the possibility of this happening on the final game of the world cup.

The match fixing already happens today, and I think it is hard to eradicate if the officials do not realize what they do is not right. The final itself can be manipulated somehow, but we don't know how they do that. I think the scandals will hide from the public, so we don't know if that happens. It is hard to prove the scandals, match fixing, or manipulations as the officials who already inside that circle will not let the public know. And the corruption will continue without us know when it will end.
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March 13, 2021, 10:53:32 PM
Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
It is going to be difficult to find precise data about it because those that are cheating are not going to go out of their way to try to tell you what they're doing and how they are manipulating things around different sports in order to gain an unfair advantage, however taking into account that soccer is the most popular sport in the entire world by far and it is the sport that moves the most money I think it is a fair assumption to make that most of the corruption in the sport world is in that sport.
Yes, in a way we don't know the numbers exactly. But I think soccer is still one of the most manipulated sports today!!

Another question about manipulation/corruption, do you think a world cup has been or can be manipulated these days?
(I asked about the world cup because it is one of the most awaited soccer events in the world)
Over the years there have been several matches that have been under the microscope for results that were very suspicious back in the day so I have no doubts match fixing has happened in the past, however I find hard to believe the final has been manipulated in any way, but we never know there have been several scandals in baseball in which the world series has been fixed on the past, so we cannot discard the possibility of this happening on the final game of the world cup.
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March 13, 2021, 07:23:55 PM
It's not easy to detect sports fixing and government officials are not even focus on that, all they do is just to impose the law which is to tax the gambling establishments and inside the gambling establishment, there's a lot of things they can't monitor anymore, however if the time will come that they will caught because somebody came out and expose it, that's the time that they will act and investigate it.
If someone exposes that there's one that happened on their term and told it to the press, the news will scatter as quick as it can and many won't believe that it had happened in their eyes.
They can reason it out that they're already investigating on it but the verdict could be just remain it as an investigation and there will be no actual result. Well, that's another corruption at its finest.
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