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Quote from: molsewid on April 23, 2021, 11:51:54 AM

Well based on my observation politicians are only good for there purposes when they are running for a position but once they were on the position they are already forgotten what are those of their platforms and programs and I don't know but maybe some of them has their own agenda for running in that position. So what I truly mean was I guess corruption was already been part of politics and couldn't be doubt even in sports corruption would be present.

Corruption occurs where officials redistribute other people's resources. If the sport was run entirely by businessmen (as it should be), then there would be no corruption. It is very stupid to steal from oneself - the owner is most interested in the fact that everything is fine with the enterprise, while the official does not care.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on April 11, 2021, 11:50:40 AM

Why don't they take action against the government first? There are far too many crooked and inept government officials who are simply swimming in people's money. In the sports league, there are many match fixings, which is really unfair to those who are trying to bet on their favorite teams. So, if they can't get rid of corruption in government, I believe that corruption in smaller cases, such as sports, will continue.

As long as people are trying to deceive others for money, corruption will exist.

Well based on my observation politicians are only good for there purposes when they are running for a position but once they were on the position they are already forgotten what are those of their platforms and programs and I don't know but maybe some of them has their own agenda for running in that position. So what I truly mean was I guess corruption was already been part of politics and couldn't be doubt even in sports corruption would be present.

Definitely right! Politicians always that way having a flowering words during the campaign they are great pointing their plans and platforms but after that once they'll get to the office nothing or most are not being implemented.

Corruptions always been their in terms of sports gambling, those illegal doers are expert from this field they are well-organized executing this activities.

It take a decade cleaning it up or we can say to lessen this illegalities inside this business.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on April 11, 2021, 11:50:40 AM

Why don't they take action against the government first? There are far too many crooked and inept government officials who are simply swimming in people's money. In the sports league, there are many match fixings, which is really unfair to those who are trying to bet on their favorite teams. So, if they can't get rid of corruption in government, I believe that corruption in smaller cases, such as sports, will continue.

As long as people are trying to deceive others for money, corruption will exist.

Well based on my observation politicians are only good for there purposes when they are running for a position but once they were on the position they are already forgotten what are those of their platforms and programs and I don't know but maybe some of them has their own agenda for running in that position. So what I truly mean was I guess corruption was already been part of politics and couldn't be doubt even in sports corruption would be present.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 05:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Why don't they take action against the government first? There are far too many crooked and inept government officials who are simply swimming in people's money. In the sports league, there are many match fixings, which is really unfair to those who are trying to bet on their favorite teams. So, if they can't get rid of corruption in government, I believe that corruption in smaller cases, such as sports, will continue.

As long as people are trying to deceive others for money, corruption will exist.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 05:31:11 AM

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Corruption is something that will never end because of the greed that lies in almost every other human. Not only sportsmen but every other person has some kind of greed.
Some have the ability to control themselves for their moral duty while the other do not and end up being corrupted.
Even is the government try to end corruption it will take a long time for corruption to be demolished in a particular field.
Even then I believe that at least some portion of it will still be left and it will never end.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on April 10, 2021, 02:56:44 PM

Quote from: michellee on April 09, 2021, 10:54:35 AM

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money.

And this problem will never end because money is legit, everything needs money,more you get money, more money you want, and this, corruption likely will never end Grin

(should I laugh or be sad??) Grin

And worse, it is not only about corruption but also the gambling game behind the sports itself. Sometimes the big bookies ask a club to win or lose in order to win gambling. And this is actually very unfair to the sports world.

That is the fact because that happens a long time ago. People will never be satisfied, especially if they already got huge money and that makes them search for more. You can do both laugh and sad at the same time Grin

When corruption happens, the corrupt people will search for other things to make fast money, and that is also happening in sports. The big bookies can arrange the sports and determine which team can win or lose, and with support from the corrupt officer, they can easily get the big money. But hopefully, in the future, everything can change although that is hard to eradicate.

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Quote from: michellee on April 09, 2021, 10:54:35 AM

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money.

And this problem will never end because money is legit, everything needs money,more you get money, more money you want, and this, corruption likely will never end Grin

(should I laugh or be sad??) Grin

And worse, it is not only about corruption but also the gambling game behind the sports itself. Sometimes the big bookies ask a club to win or lose in order to win gambling. And this is actually very unfair to the sports world.

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Quote from: hahay on April 09, 2021, 11:46:46 AM

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

It's not always sportsmen that "run the game" and establish these rules, especially if we're talking about those, who are new in sports. Sometimes the sportsmen can simply be faced with the fact that they should follow someone's orders and they realize, that it's either they who will take the bribe and the glory or this will be proposed to someone else, a competitor, for instance. Even if they don't want to in such situations there's not much choice. Either dump your career or accept the proposal. The sports industry is swarming with corruption schemes, so, unfortunately, one has to get used to it.

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Quote from: hahay on April 09, 2021, 11:46:46 AM

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

It's not about the athlete but it's about the management that handles these athletes. These athletes were ones a dreamer and won't replace the career that they have ever dreamed of for corruption.
It's just the people that handle them that get corrupt because of big money that can be offered to them.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 09, 2021, 08:28:59 AM

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I condemn such people, but I understand where they come from. In many sports, a negligible number of players make more or less normal profits. Do you agree that it is quite difficult to spend all your youth on one sport and realize that you will not be a top player and your efforts will not pay off? I think disappointed such people are trying to make money.

But that is still not a good excuse, you choose that sport, you should love and respect it, when you cheat you are cheating the fans of the sport and I don't think that's acceptable.

Let's put it this way, a certain league like NBA is very successful because the fans are supporting it, watching the game and buying their stuff that's why the organization were able to pay their players with lucrative salary, but if one player will rig a game and it was discovered, that's a shame for the entire organization and bad image for the NBA and possible other sports will be affected.

Of course this is a bad excuse, but it is a good reason for a scammer to be dishonest. If you have noticed, then any fraudster primarily thinks about himself and his own benefit, and not about society and the global consequences of his actions. I see the reason for these actions. I don’t know how to fix this because in sports the majority will always be the losers.

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Quote from: hahay on April 09, 2021, 11:46:46 AM

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

All i could see here is betrayal of public trust. We the public trusted them and made them head these organizations or clubs and they aren't be trusted by the same individual who put them there. Also, i think the problem also come from us the public becasue we are still same individual who will go ahead to defend these criminals becasue they belong to our constituencies or family members. The laws of the land should catch up with any who is find braking the law period and others will learn.

I fully agree with you. The laws are just to mild for corruption in my opinion. If there would be longer prison sentences and more monetary backslashes then athlete's would think twice before doing something wrong. Salaries are already high for the big teams, there is no need to break the trust of the fans and industry. Then again fans keep forgetting quite fast. When there is only a 1 or 2 year ban for cheating than everything is forgotten. With so much money involved in the betting market we need tougher controls against corruption and manipulation.

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Quote from: hahay on April 09, 2021, 11:46:46 AM

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

All i could see here is betrayal of public trust. We the public trusted them and made them head these organizations or clubs and they aren't be trusted by the same individual who put them there. Also, i think the problem also come from us the public becasue we are still same individual who will go ahead to defend these criminals becasue they belong to our constituencies or family members. The laws of the land should catch up with any who is find braking the law period and others will learn.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on April 09, 2021, 05:23:41 PM

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I think this is cancer in many countries. In my own country every year people claim some footballers are getting sold out in specific high rate matches so they make small teams win against bigger teams. Referees are rumored to be fixing match results by giving weird red/yellow cards and random penalties.

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money. They can use many ways to corrupt the money, especially in sports, because that is big money involved in that business, so they will not let the chance is gone. The public will not know if the referees will be fixing match results as that will be under other people's hands. The referees can only do their job and let the rest will arrange by the corrupt officials.

There are always greedy people who want to get large amounts of money through corruption. Moreover, in the world of sports, there are
so many corruptors. What makes sports so attractive to corruptors, because it is usually related to sports betting which can generate a lot of
money if the result of the match can be arranged. Therefore, until now there are always cases of corruption in the sports world, because
in my opinion corruption is always permanent and it is very difficult to eradicate.

Yes, that is right. Greedy people will always want to get more money but they do not see that they have a limit which is luck that will not always come to them. The corruption is not permanent but it is difficult to eradicate and only with honest officers that can do that with big support from the government and all section. But so far, many a high officer also part of that corruption so that is made difficult to eradicate it. I am sure someday, corruption will not happen the most.

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Quote from: michellee on April 09, 2021, 10:54:35 AM

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I think this is cancer in many countries. In my own country every year people claim some footballers are getting sold out in specific high rate matches so they make small teams win against bigger teams. Referees are rumored to be fixing match results by giving weird red/yellow cards and random penalties.

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money. They can use many ways to corrupt the money, especially in sports, because that is big money involved in that business, so they will not let the chance is gone. The public will not know if the referees will be fixing match results as that will be under other people's hands. The referees can only do their job and let the rest will arrange by the corrupt officials.

There are always greedy people who want to get large amounts of money through corruption. Moreover, in the world of sports, there are
so many corruptors. What makes sports so attractive to corruptors, because it is usually related to sports betting which can generate a lot of
money if the result of the match can be arranged. Therefore, until now there are always cases of corruption in the sports world, because
in my opinion corruption is always permanent and it is very difficult to eradicate.

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Quote from: hahay on April 09, 2021, 11:46:46 AM

Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

Politicians are not close in participating in this corruption, especially a major sports, but for small sports, then probably they can but if fans knows what's going on, will they still play and enjoy the game? I think no, that doesn't makes sense anymore to follow, maybe that's one of the reasons why there are countries who love international league than their local league, probably due to some corruption.

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Well, I think corruption or bribery in sports goes back to the sportsman or the athlete himself, because if he really likes his profession and thinks about his future career, then corruption or bribery in sports will not happen because they or the players will definitely refuse. I personally never know if an election campaign says that because usually they only deal with corruption in government circles and not in sports but anyway, if it is done then of course to fight corruption is a good thing.

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What sort of country do you live in that sports has such a corruption issue? Might it be Russia? It does happen in many countries but if sports people are corrupt, that is usually because the government has widespread corruption and it filters through everything in day to day life. You can usually set up rules and transparency that mean cheaters can be caught over the long term, so it is not difficult to stop it if they really wanted to. Some countries think that winning at all costs is better than playing fairly, which again is a weak mentality that encourages people to take short cuts like using banned performance enhancing drugs. If you have such a big and prominent issue with sports then it is usually a sign of poor morality pervading through your whole society which cannot be fixed by a few band-aid solutions.

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I think this is cancer in many countries. In my own country every year people claim some footballers are getting sold out in specific high rate matches so they make small teams win against bigger teams. Referees are rumored to be fixing match results by giving weird red/yellow cards and random penalties.

I think that is happening to many countries because the corrupt people or the country's officers will still try to search for the chance to get the dirty money. They can use many ways to corrupt the money, especially in sports, because that is big money involved in that business, so they will not let the chance is gone. The public will not know if the referees will be fixing match results as that will be under other people's hands. The referees can only do their job and let the rest will arrange by the corrupt officials.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2021, 05:31:11 AM

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

People who are doing this are ruining the reputation of the sports where they belong, they are not the top players and officials of the sports so they want to destroy it, they only want money and they don't care about the organizations, we have these kinds of people in every organization, we have a saying in every jungle there are snakes, so don't be surprised if we have these kinds of people in the sporting world.

The government has to act on this, this is betrayal of public trust because sports are supported by fans and the fans are the public. The greed for money is the main reason, but without a strong implementation of law, this would become rampant.

The greed for money is key factor, the very reason why this kind of issue is still existing up to know,

Worse things happened as it influenced more sports gambling all over the world, big and small this corruptions are very active, lots
of people are engage to this events, very need to implement strong rules about it and try to clean it out if there's still possibilities.

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Maybe you should make a topic with corruption on the forum. especially with all those corrupt DT members that are involved in this business.
Jollygood for example.

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