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@JSRAW I too agree that they’re really unpredictable because all had expected them to crash out early in the T20 World Cup, but they managed to reach the finals surprising all including their fan’s. However they do have the potential to become one of the strongest team, but for that their player’s need to have a better mentality because at time’s they just tend to give up way to easily.

I believe he might be talking about T-20 performance only. 

IMO They are an excellent T-20 side but okay in ODI and average in the Red ball cricket. @dezoel mentioned the keyword unpredictable and I tend to agree with this term that they are a highly unpredictable team and for this reason, they are exciting even when they play poor cricket.

Saying Pakistan is the strongest side not good they are just good and exciting side which is unpredictable and can give any result on their day like on first day they are losing against Zimbabwe then on next day they can beat team like South Africa which is their best part they have few quality bowlers and batsmen but still they have never been ideal unit due to their unpredictable nature and poor management which is long term issue with them most of the players having issue with non issues things which never solved.

Recently I watch social media and YouTube there was too much noise about their World Cup selection and now again team which is going to compete against England for the test series but no one caring about this all because mostly things happen just for some attention on media.

How do you say that Pakistan is the strongest team in recent few years when they are not able to win a major ICC tournament recently? Even if in their home series they lost to England by 4-3 in the seven T20 games series.

Yes, I agree that the Pakistan team possesses some greatest talent in batting and bowling but when it comes to the overall performance of the team, they lack consistency, and hence they are unable to win the series and tournaments.

If the USA starts playing cricket more seriously, ICC is going to benefit a lot from them because looking at the USA, a lot of other countries are also going to be very interested in cricket. But that is not happening. The USA is just here because ICC is giving them a shitload of money. Those types of money are not even being given to the top-tier African teams. And the USA is getting that money for free. I wouldn’t have any problem with this type of money actually including the popularity of cricket in the USA. But that did not happen either.


The problem is, they are playing with players from the subcontinent. If they were serious about cricket, which I don’t think they are, they would have played with native players. At least that would have tried to make a team that is mostly made out of native players. And they would have also searched for players throughout some talent hunt.

Here I agreed with you about this all but in the USA we have big communities from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and few other cricket loving countries which can help in this case and this game can go on good way even it's not easy, but ICC is investing in this market which is surely good for this region specially while we are losing grounds in West Indies and most chances in next few years we will be on decline due to conflict between players and WICB which is doing no positive development for the game and having increase their talent base and bring back some better things for this game.

Natives are surely not take this all easily because they already have strong based in Baseball, Football and Basketball which is doing amazing progress and having very strong grassroots in this all region.

USA is the blue-eyed boy of the ICC. Every year the ICC showers the USACA with millions of USD in funds, hoping that one day they will get some returns out of it. And the USACA uses this money to attract former players from West Indies and South Africa to play for their "national" team. The ICC even provided automatic qualification for the United States for the next edition of the T20 world cup. And despite all the dramatics, the popularity of cricket within the US has remained confined to the expat population. The natives have baseball, and they are not interested in cricket.

As we already talk many times about ICC and their system which is completely joked they never think to improve quality of the game and never work on any other improvement which bring them as better sports organization which is surely one of the worst thing happening around here for long time which is surely going to be problem for them even they never feel about this now it's time for having few changes like introducing tier system for ODI and T20i which give all teams to play against each other for the time span one or two years which help to improve quality and this system surely give better idea about progress of the game.

With right now many countries are trying to join this T20i format surely this will create more interest and entertainment for the fans with financial mindset will also change specially now as we are having USA which is also going to start their own franchise league system surely big improvement for them game in near future.

Yeh absolutely right Pakistan work too hard to get geniuenly strong and talented player and due to these reasons Pakistan organize Pakistan Super League (PSL) and due to this league Pakistan got new rising start like Haris Rauf , Shaheen Afridi, Naseem, M.Haris, Haider, and many other and the good thing is that huge young talent are on the way due to Pakistan Junior League (PJL) where PCB are in search of young gem which will raised under the strong coaching staff.
Soon Pakistan will be improve more then now

As long as you don't bring more countries to cricket this whole system will be a big joke. We have a cricket world cup of 10 teams, do you think that's not a joke? ICC administration only care about interest of Big 3 and IPL since thats where money is coming from, rest are not on there priority list.

Their ranking system is a big joke. Namibia is placed in no.14 on the rankings table, but they have never played against Bangladesh, who are at no.9. Then how can the associate nations move up the table? Even for sports such as baseball, the IOC has the requirement of a qualifying tournament. I don't think that they will waive that for cricket. The ICC administrators are still living in their la la land. They believe that the IOC needs them more than the other way around. And we are talking about a sport, that is no.1 only in a few countries in South Asia.

Ofc this proposal is ridiculous but hey at least it's moving forward and not going backward, so I'm optimistic.

I actually hate ICC's behavior on the qualification process, it's just flowed idea that they keep doing this on a rank basis and seriously I don't have any expectations from them as far as ICC tournaments are concern but IOC has power so there is some hope for Olymic qualification.

Just defeats the whole purpose. What is the point in having a six-team competition? I don't think that the International Olympic Committee (IOC) will even approve this stupid plan. All of the Olympic sports have a well-defined qualification criteria, and they have geographic representation from all the continents. ICC's idea will be rejected outright (perhaps they want this, since they can use as an excuse).

Let's compare some of the sports in 2020 Tokyo Olympics:

Football: 16 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament), 12 for the women's tournament.
Baseball: 6 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)
Basketball: 12 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)
Field hockey: 12 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)
Handball: 12 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)
Rugby Sevens: 12 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)
Softball: 6 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)
Volleyball: 12 participants (all except hosts need to play qualifying tournament)

As you can see, only baseball and softball are the items with less than 12 participants. And in any case, all the participants need to take part in the qualifying tournament. The idea of a qualifying tournament will be unpalatable for the ICC.

I checked the ICC proposal:
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/cricket-set-for-olympic-return-icc-propose-6-team-men-and-women-tournament-for-la-2028-reports-article-95624067

They don't want qualifying tournament, and want teams to qualify based on their own ranking. This proposal will be rejected outright by the IOC.

Pakistan has emerged as a strongest team in the world in almost 2 3 years and hard work is obvious in that . Definitely there is a role of PCB in that too from finding these great talented boys and polish them to bring the best out of them. Everything is clear and transparent so just appreciate things right now and look at the positive side of the picture.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being grateful to your God on your success and mentioning that infront of media or press conferences. Yes some people talk about and mention their religion at their every achievement and some don't but yes the sports should be limited to things in ground .
Yes but avoid talking against anyone's belief and make it controversial.

Here we have to understand few things specially culture of subcontinent where religion is key factor for last few decades because of political influence so if someone doing things like this even never been good or liked but still happening because they have no other positive way to give their personal thoughts.

So, they include things like these which create more mess up even many crimes are going happen just in these religion circumstances but no one can do anything positive for change as education and personal sentiments are having big impact on this all and remember one thing creating of Pakistan is also just based on religion so this all is part of the life and nothing can change in near future.

Everyone see how Pakistan improve entire things which required for best team like feilding, batting, bowling.
No doubt we have always best team but feilding and batting were the two main problem which didn't allow us to beat the big team like India in world cup , but with the help of PSL and ramiz raja Pakistan build a strong team which has ability to beat any team at any big event.
So everyone should accept that Pakistan is now improve side at every side so be aware 🕶️

No doubt we have too many positive changes after arrival of Ramiz Raja as President of PCB even till very long way to go for them if they want to be bigger and stable in this game and around the world but still good approach by him for handling things which was never been good and favourable for the long term games future but as few already mentioning above positive and negative points of this post and attitude this is surely happening in subcontinent specially in Pakistan because system is not strong and many form cricketers which fail to have any post or contract with leagues can also show their frustration even they never deserve for this post, but they feel it's not justifying by them hopefully things will be changed, and they could be able to understand this all.

Well! Half of the Pakistani team believe in tabliq. There is nothing wrong in preaching your religion but mixing it up with professional sports is a concern. The biggest example of such kind of behaviour was when Md Rizwan plaided the lord for his achievements in the semifinal against SA multiple time. The clip has become viral now. It is a controversial topic and I personally think sports should not be mixed with religious activities.

They deleted the 2 posts regarding South Africa and India. When I saw those tweets then I had to recheck if it was some parody account and to my surprise, it wasn't.

Well to be fair to them, for some weird reason almost everyone from Pakistani side brings religion. Be it Waqar's comment or recently Rizwan's post-match interview after winning the semis against kiwis.

I can't imagine such language from BCCI's officials, Indian commentator or Indian team.