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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 11, 2022, 09:50:22 AM

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.

Hasnain is just 22 years old and has played few T20I and ODIs from Pakistan. He has lot of cricket left. First he should try to get settled with his new action and that's possible only if he plays too much domestic cricket. PCB is not good in proving support to players that are not in playing 11.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 11, 2022, 06:30:20 PM

It looks like the Sri Lankan cricket board wants to continue the league without giving a break due to the ongoing economic crisis within the country. As said to popularise a league beyond the boundaries isn't an easy thing. For now foreign players involvement will increase the support from other cricketing nations. However this looks to be a real hard task to shine and make revenue as the IPL.

As you said, Sri Lanka is already reeling from an economic crisis. At this point, I don't know how practical it is for the SLCB to spend a few tens of millions of USD to organize a franchise league. Their previous attempts ended in huge losses. The trouble is in getting foreign audiences to watch the SLPL. If they want revenues from countries such as India, then they need to have big names such as Pollard and Warner participating in the league. But these players won't come cheap. A month-long contract can cost more than half a million USD.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 10, 2022, 11:25:58 PM

Quote from: onecall123 on June 10, 2022, 09:59:06 AM

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

Don't know whether it is a good idea for these smaller boards to organize such glitzy franchise leagues. There is only limited room available in an already over-saturated market. We saw the example of South Africa, where the Msanzi Super League resulted in huge losses for the CSA. The CPL and PSL were successful because the boards managed to make these leagues popular outside the respective geographies. CPL is quite popular in South Asia and the United States, while PSL gained good popularity in the middle-east, and was supported by the large population size and economy of Pakistan. These advantages are not available for LPL.

It looks like the Sri Lankan cricket board wants to continue the league without giving a break due to the ongoing economic crisis within the country. As said to popularise a league beyond the boundaries isn't an easy thing. For now foreign players involvement will increase the support from other cricketing nations. However this looks to be a real hard task to shine and make revenue as the IPL.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 10, 2022, 11:31:26 PM

Right now Pakistan only has one quality fast bowler and he is Shaheen Shah rest of the pace bowlers don't have that quality. Yes Hasnain need to play domestic and should prove that he is good with his new action. I m sure PCB will also try him in domestic before sending him to international cricket.

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.

Pakistan has always produced really good fast bowlers. This is one department where Pakistan did not have any problems. At times it might look like the bowling lineup is not that good for Pakistan. But I think a lot of the bowlers are getting overshadowed by the likes of Shaheen Shah Afridi. He is obviously a great bowler but a lot of people often underestimate the other bowlers that Pakistan has in the squad.

I think the bowlers who are playing domestically, should be made aware that they need to have proper action so that they don't have to face any problems with their actions like Mohammed Hasnain.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 10, 2022, 11:31:26 PM

Right now Pakistan only has one quality fast bowler and he is Shaheen Shah rest of the pace bowlers don't have that quality. Yes Hasnain need to play domestic and should prove that he is good with his new action. I m sure PCB will also try him in domestic before sending him to international cricket.

Shaheen Shah Afridi is a class apart from the rest. But pacers such as Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not far behind. And then there are promising youngsters such as Naseem Shah. For Muhammad Hasnain, his future will depend on how he is able to perform at the domestic circuit. Adjusting to the new bowling action is going to take a long time and therefore it is very important for him not to get disheartened. And at the same time, he needs plenty of support from the PCB, as well as from the senior players such as Shaheen.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 09, 2022, 07:22:54 AM

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

From what I have seen, very few of the fast bowlers have maintained their pace and seam movement once they have been rehabilitated. It would be a shame to lose Hasnain, because he is such a talented player. I seriously hope that he is able to maintain his skills even with a changed bowling action. That said, I don't expect him to be back in international cricket immediately. He first need to prove himself in the domestic circuit. And anyway, getting back in to the national team is not going to be easy. Too much competition there.

Right now Pakistan only has one quality fast bowler and he is Shaheen Shah rest of the pace bowlers don't have that quality. Yes Hasnain need to play domestic and should prove that he is good with his new action. I m sure PCB will also try him in domestic before sending him to international cricket.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 10, 2022, 09:59:06 AM

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

Don't know whether it is a good idea for these smaller boards to organize such glitzy franchise leagues. There is only limited room available in an already over-saturated market. We saw the example of South Africa, where the Msanzi Super League resulted in huge losses for the CSA. The CPL and PSL were successful because the boards managed to make these leagues popular outside the respective geographies. CPL is quite popular in South Asia and the United States, while PSL gained good popularity in the middle-east, and was supported by the large population size and economy of Pakistan. These advantages are not available for LPL.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 10, 2022, 09:59:06 AM

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

I wonder if this was the right decision taken by the Sri Lankan cricket board. They are going through some hard times and I thought they had more important things to worry about instead of cricket.

But, I think they are expecting to generate some revenue so that it will have their current situation but I really don't know if people will want to watch the cricket matches right now because they have their own things to worry about. People will always give importance to their families first instead of entertainment or playing.

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Quote from: onecall123 on June 10, 2022, 09:59:06 AM

A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

Many experts think that in the time of tormail - cricket or any other sports can distract the people and can bring in a little joy.
But not always - the chaos Sri Lanka went through - is irreparable - but hope in coming days things get better and people feel good too.

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A great news has arrived! From 31st July to 21st August, the Lanka Premier League will take place for the third time. Due to the instability of their government, I thought the Sri Lankan Cricket Board was short of money. The initiative was taken because the Cricket board had money, so that's good. Slowly but surely, the Lanka Premier League is becoming more popular. In the lead up to the 2022 World Cup, the Lanka Premier League should be a successful event. This will help the Sri Lankan teams to succeed.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 09, 2022, 07:22:54 AM

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

From what I have seen, very few of the fast bowlers have maintained their pace and seam movement once they have been rehabilitated. It would be a shame to lose Hasnain, because he is such a talented player. I seriously hope that he is able to maintain his skills even with a changed bowling action. That said, I don't expect him to be back in international cricket immediately. He first need to prove himself in the domestic circuit. And anyway, getting back in to the national team is not going to be easy. Too much competition there.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 09, 2022, 07:22:54 AM

Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

It is obviously very good news for Pakistan cricket. Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to play for Pakistan and I believe this player will also play very well for Pakistan. I believe this player will be able to perform as he was doing without dropping the pace of his bowling. I hope he will also be able to maintain his accuracy.

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Good news for Pakistan as there young rising fast bowler Muhammad Hasnain is cleared to bowl in international cricket by ICC. It will be interesting to see whether Hasnain can bowl the same way he was bowling with his original action or not.

" Pakistan quick's elbow extension has come down from the earlier flex of 17-24 degrees to 12-13 degrees " https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-news-bowling-action-mohammad-hasnain-cleared-to-bowl-internationally-again-1318697

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Quote from: crunck on June 08, 2022, 07:37:51 AM

Yeah! It is obvious because you know, cricket is and will be generating a lot more revenue compared to the other sports in India.

So, those sponsors will obviously want to invest in cricket instead of these sports, right?

Cricket can bring them multiple times the money that they invest which the other sports League obviously will not be able to do. So, it is not a surprise for me to see the majority of sponsors being interested in cricket now.

IMO, the sponsors don't want to take the risk. They want to invest in a product (IPL) that is already popular. They don't want to invest in the other leagues, because they are not popular as of now, although they may become popular in the medium to long term. Another issue is related to the stability. Leagues such as HIL are defunct now. Those who invested their money in these leagues are now left high and dry. The situation is similar to the numerous ICO scams we had in 2018, when the development team suddenly stopped all their activity once they received money from the investors.

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Yes, I agree that football has really good popularity in India, at least in certain states of India. And the same goes for field hockey.

But the most realistic situation for a person living in India will always be playing cricket as a profession because the other sports do not have enough patrons in India. So cricket is the only sport that can give future stability. If anyone plays other sports eventually they will have to leave that sport and look for another job. But that probably will change in the future but it is going to take at least 5 to 10 years. And India is also concentrating on cricket a lot more right now.

Cricket has definitely more "prestige" in India when compared to the other sports. IPL is one of the richest sports leagues in the world, while the other leagues in India have struggled to survive. ISL and PKL salaries are only a fraction of those in the IPL. Leagues such as Hockey India League (HIL), Indian Premier Handball League (IPHL) and Super Boxing League have become defunct. Corporates refuse to sponsor sports other than cricket. Even former football strongholds such as Goa are now getting dominated by cricket.

Yeah! It is obvious because you know, cricket is and will be generating a lot more revenue compared to the other sports in India.

So, those sponsors will obviously want to invest in cricket instead of these sports, right?

Cricket can bring them multiple times the money that they invest which the other sports League obviously will not be able to do. So, it is not a surprise for me to see the majority of sponsors being interested in cricket now.

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Quote from: crunck on June 08, 2022, 01:54:38 AM

Yes, I agree that football has really good popularity in India, at least in certain states of India. And the same goes for field hockey.

But the most realistic situation for a person living in India will always be playing cricket as a profession because the other sports do not have enough patrons in India. So cricket is the only sport that can give future stability. If anyone plays other sports eventually they will have to leave that sport and look for another job. But that probably will change in the future but it is going to take at least 5 to 10 years. And India is also concentrating on cricket a lot more right now.

Cricket has definitely more "prestige" in India when compared to the other sports. IPL is one of the richest sports leagues in the world, while the other leagues in India have struggled to survive. ISL and PKL salaries are only a fraction of those in the IPL. Leagues such as Hockey India League (HIL), Indian Premier Handball League (IPHL) and Super Boxing League have become defunct. Corporates refuse to sponsor sports other than cricket. Even former football strongholds such as Goa are now getting dominated by cricket.

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But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

In India, there are regions where cricket is not as popular as other sports. As I mentioned earlier, one example is that of North-eastern states such as Nagaland and Mizoram. Football is far more popular than cricket in these states. You can notice the same situation in Northern Kerala and Goa as well. And in states such as Punjab, field hockey is more popular than cricket. India is known as a cricket crazy nation, because in the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra, 90% of the residents would list cricket as their favorite sport.

Yes, I agree that football has really good popularity in India, at least in certain states of India. And the same goes for field hockey.

But the most realistic situation for a person living in India will always be playing cricket as a profession because the other sports do not have enough patrons in India. So cricket is the only sport that can give future stability. If anyone plays other sports eventually they will have to leave that sport and look for another job. But that probably will change in the future but it is going to take at least 5 to 10 years. And India is also concentrating on cricket a lot more right now.

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IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

In India, there are regions where cricket is not as popular as other sports. As I mentioned earlier, one example is that of North-eastern states such as Nagaland and Mizoram. Football is far more popular than cricket in these states. You can notice the same situation in Northern Kerala and Goa as well. And in states such as Punjab, field hockey is more popular than cricket. India is known as a cricket crazy nation, because in the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra, 90% of the residents would list cricket as their favorite sport.

@Sithara007 thanks for sharing these stats, because it was my basic understanding that Indian’s only preferred cricket before any other sport. Furthermore BCCI will only spend money on those states if fans demand them to nurture the talent out there, or some powerful people recommend them to spend on those states otherwise on their own I doubt that BCCI will spend any money developing those states player’s.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on June 07, 2022, 10:43:32 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 07, 2022, 04:11:44 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 07, 2022, 03:48:24 AM

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

In India, there are regions where cricket is not as popular as other sports. As I mentioned earlier, one example is that of North-eastern states such as Nagaland and Mizoram. Football is far more popular than cricket in these states. You can notice the same situation in Northern Kerala and Goa as well. And in states such as Punjab, field hockey is more popular than cricket. India is known as a cricket crazy nation, because in the larger states such as Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra, 90% of the residents would list cricket as their favorite sport.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 07, 2022, 04:11:44 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 07, 2022, 03:48:24 AM

IMO if BCCI starts pumping money in northeast then i believe we'll see some improvement on local representation.

I have watched a few matches of these teams. Manipur is almost 100% native, as they have a number of well known local cricket clubs. But most of the other teams rely on mainland players. Meghalaya is majority mainlander, with just around 25% native, while teams like Nagaland and Sikkim are around 50% native. I don't know whether the BCCI is interested in developing cricket in these states. Football is more popular than cricket there, and Manipur is famous for being a powerhouse for other sports such as field hockey and athletics.

But cricket is the most popular sport in India. It is really hard to see any other sport prosper like cricket in India. Football was also pretty popular before the pandemic situation. But that is gone right now. If these are places where cricket can be popularised because cricket is not very popular there, I think a lot more talent will come forward. But that will also mean the downgrade of the popularity of other sports.

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