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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 06, 2022, 09:08:24 AM

I won’t say that Pakistan is among the top teams just yet, because Pakistan had the home advantage, plus many of these Australian player’s hadn’t toured Pakistan before so I’ll only consider them a top team when they beat big teams while playing away from home. Lastly I’ll give them the credit for their overall performances, because they have definitely improved and I hope that their good form continues in future tournaments too.

Pakistan certainly did well In the series against Australia. Previously it was in their home ground so they had some certain advantages. but still, they should have good enough performance to impress a lot of people. But, I think people have realized that they have big weaknesses in their lineup.

If one or two of their players does not perform, they seem to have a really bad time. obviously every time Babar Azam does not play well, they seem to lose. so they need to build a strong lineup because everyone needs to have the potential to perform at any given stage and also have the mindset to be able to do it.

Quote from: JSRAW on April 07, 2022, 01:52:47 AM

Pakistan is 6th at Test ranking and only 10 nations play regularly.

England is on losing streak but still they are ahead of Pakistan, one would ask why? Because earlier there was big gap between them, which is narrowing now. Pakistan is good and has potential but if someone keep saying that they are top team despite all evidence then it's hard to argue anything.

In Test cricket, Pakistan is obviously not one of the best teams because Obviously, they are sixth in the standings. and it is not just good enough to say that they are one of the best.
if there were a lot more teams playing like 50 or 60 and among them Pakistan was sixth, then it would have been ok to say that they are one of the top teams,
but there are only 10 teams playing regularly and being the six amongst them is not good enough to be a top team.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 06, 2022, 09:08:24 AM

I won’t say that Pakistan is among the top teams just yet, because Pakistan had the home advantage, plus many of these Australian player’s hadn’t toured Pakistan before so I’ll only consider them a top team when they beat big teams while playing away from home. Lastly I’ll give them the credit for their overall performances, because they have definitely improved and I hope that their good form continues in future tournaments too.

If Pakistan is not among top teams then please enlighten us who are the top teams and whats the criteria of being in top team? If Pakistan had home advantage then why they lost test series? PCB is not a strong board in terms of financial powers, its only because of its strong team that countries like to play with them.

Pakistan is 6th at Test ranking and only 10 nations play regularly.

England is on losing streak but still they are ahead of Pakistan, one would ask why? Because earlier there was big gap between them, which is narrowing now. Pakistan is good and has potential but if someone keep saying that they are top team despite all evidence then it's hard to argue anything.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 06, 2022, 09:08:24 AM

I won’t say that Pakistan is among the top teams just yet, because Pakistan had the home advantage, plus many of these Australian player’s hadn’t toured Pakistan before so I’ll only consider them a top team when they beat big teams while playing away from home. Lastly I’ll give them the credit for their overall performances, because they have definitely improved and I hope that their good form continues in future tournaments too.

If Pakistan is not among top teams then please enlighten us who are the top teams and whats the criteria of being in top team? If Pakistan had home advantage then why they lost test series? PCB is not a strong board in terms of financial powers, its only because of its strong team that countries like to play with them.

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Quote from: minairia3 on April 05, 2022, 07:08:32 AM

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Pakistan is as good as any best team in the world. Two matches went for draw since Pakistan proves equally good as Australia and blame was given to pitch. You probably didn't saw the ODI series, Pakistan won the ODI series including there highest ever chase of 348. In ODI series, Pakistan was way ahead of Australia.

Pakistan did really well in the ODI series but you can't deny Australia, Australia did really well equally, in my opinion.

Actually, the thing is I expected a little better from Australia in the last ODI match.

Pakistan certainly showed that their bowling lineup is also really good and strong enough. But in the T20 match, I expected the opposite, I expected Pakistan to play better, obviously better from their middle-order batsmen, and also a little better from the bowlers of Pakistan.

one will always think that with the score that Pakistan put up on the board in the T20 match and with the kind of bowling lineup they have, they obviously always have a chance but T20 is a lot for giving compared to Test and ODI cricket.

So, the Australian batsmen could play a lot freely.

I won’t say that Pakistan is among the top teams just yet, because Pakistan had the home advantage, plus many of these Australian player’s hadn’t toured Pakistan before so I’ll only consider them a top team when they beat big teams while playing away from home. Lastly I’ll give them the credit for their overall performances, because they have definitely improved and I hope that their good form continues in future tournaments too.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on April 06, 2022, 01:21:30 AM

Quote from: minairia3 on April 05, 2022, 07:08:32 AM

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Pakistan is as good as any best team in the world. Two matches went for draw since Pakistan proves equally good as Australia and blame was given to pitch. You probably didn't saw the ODI series, Pakistan won the ODI series including there highest ever chase of 348. In ODI series, Pakistan was way ahead of Australia.

Pakistan did really well in the ODI series but you can't deny Australia, Australia did really well equally, in my opinion.

Actually, the thing is I expected a little better from Australia in the last ODI match.

Pakistan certainly showed that their bowling lineup is also really good and strong enough. But in the T20 match, I expected the opposite, I expected Pakistan to play better, obviously better from their middle-order batsmen, and also a little better from the bowlers of Pakistan.

one will always think that with the score that Pakistan put up on the board in the T20 match and with the kind of bowling lineup they have, they obviously always have a chance but T20 is a lot for giving compared to Test and ODI cricket.

So, the Australian batsmen could play a lot freely.

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Quote from: minairia3 on April 05, 2022, 07:08:32 AM

Australia is, was, and will be one of the best teams in cricket. and the system of Australian Cricket beats everyone else.

I think now we can understand why Pakistan was trying to go for draws in the test matches. They knew that they are not as strong as Australia in the test match.
Australia did really well in the test format, also the ODI format too.

I was also really amazed by the confidence that Australia had shown in the last test match, now there is only one T-20 to go and I think it will be a 50-50 about who wins.

Pakistan is as good as any best team in the world. Two matches went for draw since Pakistan proves equally good as Australia and blame was given to pitch. You probably didn't saw the ODI series, Pakistan won the ODI series including there highest ever chase of 348. In ODI series, Pakistan was way ahead of Australia.

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Quote from: galambo on April 04, 2022, 11:45:45 AM

Taylor had an extraordinary career that's spans over 15 years and include 112 tests, 236 ODIs and 102 T20Is. He has SR of 83 in 236 ODIs and 123 in 102 T20Is he played, that clearly shows how well he has aligned himself for these formats. New Zealand will badly miss this middle order batsmen and so will cricket fans.

There is no doubt that Ross was one of the most amazing batsmen New Zealand ever produced. But towards the end of his career, he was not doing great. During the last 2 years, his ODI average stood at 8.25. He played three matches against Netherlands this year and scored only 26 runs. His overall career stats look great, but the same can't be said about recent times. Anyway, now I think he should concentrate more on a TV role, as he has an amazing sense of humor (remember the twitter conversation with Virender Sehwag in Hindi?).

He was a great servant to the New Zealand cricket team. I remember countless matches where he took the team out of some real bad situation and made a plot for Newzealand to win the match. His career was a great one even though his recent Stats do not look really good. It is understandable why his skills are not at that level because he is 38 years old, and he will be missed. Yeah, I also agree that he might do pretty well in a TV role.

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Quote from: jostorres on April 04, 2022, 02:45:31 PM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on April 04, 2022, 08:06:22 AM

I think in Test cricket Australia is better than Pakistan obviously. but in the shorter formats, it's not the case. It's Fifty Fifty in ODI Cricket in my opinion but in T-20, I obviously think that Pakistan is the better team. Pakistan did really well to come back in the ODI series and eventually win it. I am expecting a better performance from them in the T-20 against Australia.

In test cricket Australia is currently best team with their quality batting and bowling options without any doubt with win against Pakistan they have done great job. In other formats like ODI and T20 it's all about on your day even Australia done good job in first two ODI against Pakistan but still they lost this series it's all about home advantage and quality response from Pakistan as well other than this all Australian rotation policy is also helped Pakistan as now Australians looking for their best options which will help them in next world cup it is good planning from them.

Currently, Australia is having amazing cricket system which helping them in all formats in both women's and men's cricket, other countries need to go with this as well.

Australia is, was, and will be one of the best teams in cricket. and the system of Australian Cricket beats everyone else.

I think now we can understand why Pakistan was trying to go for draws in the test matches. They knew that they are not as strong as Australia in the test match.
Australia did really well in the test format, also the ODI format too.

I was also really amazed by the confidence that Australia had shown in the last test match, now there is only one T-20 to go and I think it will be a 50-50 about who wins.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 04, 2022, 09:09:23 PM

There is no doubt that Ross was one of the most amazing batsmen New Zealand ever produced. But towards the end of his career, he was not doing great. During the last 2 years, his ODI average stood at 8.25. He played three matches against Netherlands this year and scored only 26 runs. His overall career stats look great, but the same can't be said about recent times. Anyway, now I think he should concentrate more on a TV role, as he has an amazing sense of humor (remember the twitter conversation with Virender Sehwag in Hindi?).

I think in past two years there wasn't much cricket due to covid19. Only in 2021 we saw resumption of cricket with SOPs, still its a good decision from Taylor to get retirement before CNZ drops him from the squad. We rarely saw such trend in sub-continent players stick with teams as long as they can before board decides they are no more required.

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Quote from: galambo on April 04, 2022, 11:45:45 AM

Taylor had an extraordinary career that's spans over 15 years and include 112 tests, 236 ODIs and 102 T20Is. He has SR of 83 in 236 ODIs and 123 in 102 T20Is he played, that clearly shows how well he has aligned himself for these formats. New Zealand will badly miss this middle order batsmen and so will cricket fans.

There is no doubt that Ross was one of the most amazing batsmen New Zealand ever produced. But towards the end of his career, he was not doing great. During the last 2 years, his ODI average stood at 8.25. He played three matches against Netherlands this year and scored only 26 runs. His overall career stats look great, but the same can't be said about recent times. Anyway, now I think he should concentrate more on a TV role, as he has an amazing sense of humor (remember the twitter conversation with Virender Sehwag in Hindi?).

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I don’t think that it’s fair to assume things like these as there’s zero evidence that can prove black money is involved during IPL games. Furthermore all IPL player’s, officials are under constant scrutiny and if anyone was involved then they would have been exposed by now, therefore till credible evidence pops up I feel that we should not spread rumours about IPL unless they can be proved.

You are right we can't say about match fixing until its proven. There is no one who speaks against IPL not even the icc since everyone gets his fair share. The ROI will be low if you rely only on legitimate sources like sponsorship, TV rights etc. Big parties need big return on there investment and this comes only with some fixing.

I want to bet on Pk and Aussie match, I think Pakistan will win the match today and I also believe that match is a fix.
I don't know why Pakistani give their best at the end why we have to wait till last over to see when the team Pakistan is going to come back.

What made you think that the last ODI between Pakistan and Australia was fixed? Do you have any proof? I see other people also writing that IPL matches are fixed too.
What has happened to you, the cricket community here? You people do not have any proof and are self claiming that matches are being fixed.
Strange isn't?

When the user gets unpredicted results they term it as fixed matches. It isn't happening now, this is common in all games. In specific with cricket we can see it quite often, because even a single player can change the game anytime. With Australia Pakistan match there is no reason to state it a fixed match. In the second ODI Pakistan gave the best. In the third ODI Pakistan lost a single wicket and that might be the reason for stating it a fixed match. In my understanding Pakistan took the home ground advantage to mark the win.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 30, 2022, 05:17:16 AM

I don’t think that it’s fair to assume things like these as there’s zero evidence that can prove black money is involved during IPL games. Furthermore all IPL player’s, officials are under constant scrutiny and if anyone was involved then they would have been exposed by now, therefore till credible evidence pops up I feel that we should not spread rumours about IPL unless they can be proved.

You are right we can't say about match fixing until its proven. There is no one who speaks against IPL not even the icc since everyone gets his fair share. The ROI will be low if you rely only on legitimate sources like sponsorship, TV rights etc. Big parties need big return on there investment and this comes only with some fixing.

I want to bet on Pk and Aussie match, I think Pakistan will win the match today and I also believe that match is a fix.
I don't know why Pakistani give their best at the end why we have to wait till last over to see when the team Pakistan is going to come back.

What made you think that the last ODI between Pakistan and Australia was fixed? Do you have any proof? I see other people also writing that IPL matches are fixed too.
What has happened to you, the cricket community here? You people do not have any proof and are self claiming that matches are being fixed.
Strange isn't?

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on April 04, 2022, 08:06:22 AM

I think in Test cricket Australia is better than Pakistan obviously. but in the shorter formats, it's not the case. It's Fifty Fifty in ODI Cricket in my opinion but in T-20, I obviously think that Pakistan is the better team. Pakistan did really well to come back in the ODI series and eventually win it. I am expecting a better performance from them in the T-20 against Australia.

In test cricket Australia is currently best team with their quality batting and bowling options without any doubt with win against Pakistan they have done great job. In other formats like ODI and T20 it's all about on your day even Australia done good job in first two ODI against Pakistan but still they lost this series it's all about home advantage and quality response from Pakistan as well other than this all Australian rotation policy is also helped Pakistan as now Australians looking for their best options which will help them in next world cup it is good planning from them.

Currently, Australia is having amazing cricket system which helping them in all formats in both women's and men's cricket, other countries need to go with this as well.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on April 04, 2022, 11:37:14 AM

New Zealand won by 115 runs against Nederlands in the third ODI match and this outcome lead whitewashed them in the ODI series. Ross Taylor are signing off his ODI career in a splendid manner. He ended his career with No 3 ODI batsmen that is actually an astounding accomplishment and shows how great Taylor is! Thank you Ross Taylor for your amazing cricket. Happy retirement legend.

Taylor had an extraordinary career that's spans over 15 years and include 112 tests, 236 ODIs and 102 T20Is. He has SR of 83 in 236 ODIs and 123 in 102 T20Is he played, that clearly shows how well he has aligned himself for these formats. New Zealand will badly miss this middle order batsmen and so will cricket fans.

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New Zealand won by 115 runs against Nederlands in the third ODI match and this outcome lead whitewashed them in the ODI series. Ross Taylor are signing off his ODI career in a splendid manner. He ended his career with No 3 ODI batsmen that is actually an astounding accomplishment and shows how great Taylor is! Thank you Ross Taylor for your amazing cricket. Happy retirement legend.

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I don’t think that it’s fair to assume things like these as there’s zero evidence that can prove black money is involved during IPL games. Furthermore all IPL player’s, officials are under constant scrutiny and if anyone was involved then they would have been exposed by now, therefore till credible evidence pops up I feel that we should not spread rumours about IPL unless they can be proved.

You are right we can't say about match fixing until its proven. There is no one who speaks against IPL not even the icc since everyone gets his fair share. The ROI will be low if you rely only on legitimate sources like sponsorship, TV rights etc. Big parties need big return on there investment and this comes only with some fixing.

No one speak about IPL much because when someone get caught or face any allegation, they face suspension or life ban. I won't say that it's perfect system from any angle or fixing/spot fixing are alien concept to IPL but it's also true that they don't jerk around.

2 Franchise faced suspension for couple of years (CSK-RR) when their shareholder, not team but shareholder faced charges (Conflict of interest) and in some cases their shares were also seized, not to mention it followed by BCCI president resignation due to conflict of interest (CSK). Players got lifetime ban from the franchise although they were cleared by the Court but still every franchise boycotted everyone.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on April 03, 2022, 02:42:26 PM

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Once after the T20 match against Australia there is no match for Pakistan. As per schedule the next series is against West Indies during the month of June. After the series, Pakistan plays on the T20 World Cup matches. Pakistan have got a lot time to prepare themselves for the T20 World Cup. Some have mentioned the complete Australia isn't available in this series. When the incomplete squad can score 348 runs why can't the same team win the final ODI. So, those are just reasons and the reality is Pakistan did the best.

Australia send their best team that was available and it is their selectors fault if they are not able to send their best team members. Credits should be given to Pakistan as they played their best game after loosing the first ODI and then to come back and win the next two ODI is a great comeback by them. T20 is going to be interesting and i am expecting them to be close matches but Pakistan have the advantage and win the T20 as well.

I think in Test cricket Australia is better than Pakistan obviously. but in the shorter formats, it's not the case. It's Fifty Fifty in ODI Cricket in my opinion but in T-20, I obviously think that Pakistan is the better team. Pakistan did really well to come back in the ODI series and eventually win it. I am expecting a better performance from them in the T-20 against Australia.

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Quote from: coinism on March 31, 2022, 02:30:08 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on March 30, 2022, 05:17:16 AM

I don’t think that it’s fair to assume things like these as there’s zero evidence that can prove black money is involved during IPL games. Furthermore all IPL player’s, officials are under constant scrutiny and if anyone was involved then they would have been exposed by now, therefore till credible evidence pops up I feel that we should not spread rumours about IPL unless they can be proved.

You are right we can't say about match fixing until its proven. There is no one who speaks against IPL not even the icc since everyone gets his fair share. The ROI will be low if you rely only on legitimate sources like sponsorship, TV rights etc. Big parties need big return on there investment and this comes only with some fixing.

Your statements say it all. No one speaks about the IPL match fixing because everyone is interested in the share of money which they get from the IPL. Money can make you stand with the wrong Roll Eyes

Quote from: KennyR on April 03, 2022, 12:17:40 PM

Once after the T20 match against Australia there is no match for Pakistan. As per schedule the next series is against West Indies during the month of June. After the series, Pakistan plays on the T20 World Cup matches. Pakistan have got a lot time to prepare themselves for the T20 World Cup. Some have mentioned the complete Australia isn't available in this series. When the incomplete squad can score 348 runs why can't the same team win the final ODI. So, those are just reasons and the reality is Pakistan did the best.

This is in fact bad for Pakistan. Teams who continue to play are used to the real matches and practice matches would not give you benefit as the real matches can be useful. Pakistan recently played PSL and the team continues the form in the ODI series. Don't think the same performance can be shown if there is break for 2 , 3 months of international / domestic cricket.

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Australia lost there 9th wicket on 166 it was Sean Abbott 49 on 40 balls that helped them crossing 200. Australia team were not playing with there major bowlers like starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. That's another plus for Pakistan. Australia will conclude this historic tour on 5th April by playing the only T20I.

Australia was one of the first teams to implement the player rotation policy. This time they went with a bunch of inexperienced players (Nathan Ellis, Jason Behrendorff, Ben McDermott.etc), and still managed to perform. However in the 3rd ODI things didn't worked as per the plan. Both the opening batsmen (Travis Head and Aaron Finch) were back in pavilion before they managed to score the first run. When Marnus Labuschagne got out, the score was 6/3 after 5 overs. And from there, things went downhill for Australia.

Apart from everything - I can say one thing - Australia helped revive international cricket in Pakistan. People of Pakistan are great fans of cricket. And having an international cricket in Pakistan is a victory in itself. People were happy and all is well when there is joy all around.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on April 04, 2022, 04:04:23 AM

Yes, I have no doubt about the capability of the Australian team. It was just a little unexpected for me that they did not go with their full power and try to win the series.

But I guess they are focusing on much more important things like the world cup right now. And Pakistan will also get a lot of confidence after this. I know they really played cowardly in the test matches but there is a reason why they did that. I still think Australia is a better team than Pakistan.

I believe both the team did a good practice and enjoy fun moments during the match - I think they enjoyed it as much as the spectators did that too.
But Australia was and will be the best team in the field whatever is the situation they know how to win in the worse situations as well.

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