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Quote from: galambo on November 28, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

I don't know what made her complain. From the chats, it looks as if what happened between these two was 100% consensual. But that doesn't mean Tim Paine is innocent. He is a married man, and should have kept away from these antics. Now he can't complain that she honey trapped him. If he had remained loyal to his wife, then none of this would have ever happened. Anyway, at 37 years, his career is all but over. May be he should take a 1-2 years break and after that he may get some administrative position with the Tasmanian cricket board.

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Quote from: galambo on November 28, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

Age cannot be a factor here and I am happy at least now that woman got some relief but not sure what kind of compensation will be the right one for someone who quit their job after harassment. In this imbalanced world, even late justice are somehow cure pain after lots of struggle and sacrifices. I guess this case might not have got this much importance if Paine was not a skipper and just a player. Anyhow, I guess there will be no point of discussing about destroying Paine's career as he was convicted and hence must face that for the crime.

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Quote from: galambo on November 28, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

I am yet to read about the case and i am not sure whey there were no active action against him about her complaint in 2017, even during the Me Too movement this should have come to light and that did not happen and now the Woke movement is active and they are looking to cancel each and everyone and they might have digged the history and Australia is also riding that wave. Lets see how it goes and and by sending a nude pic his career will be over.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2021, 10:10:09 PM

He's 37 years. A break at this point means an end to his international career. But no sympathy for him. He should have been aware of the consequences. The allegation was filed by 47-year old Renee Ferguson. I am not sure whether this was some sort of a honey trap. But in either case, Paine should have been more careful. This is not expected from someone who is married with kids.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/tim-paine-woman-at-centre-of-sexting-scandal-files-sexual-harassment-suit-against-cricket-tasmania/news-story/da4e78950434205bdbe7ab0400747152

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2021, 10:10:09 PM

He's 37 years. A break at this point means an end to his international career. But no sympathy for him. He should have been aware of the consequences. The allegation was filed by 47-year old Renee Ferguson. I am not sure whether this was some sort of a honey trap. But in either case, Paine should have been more careful. This is not expected from someone who is married with kids.

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Mr Paine then sent an image of his penis with the caption, “True, so f***ed,” in reference to the messages becoming public.

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Paine responded: “Will you want to taste my ***? F*** me, I’m seriously hard.”

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Paine continued: “Can’t rest them when I’m this hard! Need to ease the tension … Finish me off with those lips then. (Wink emoji) #trust.”

Of course these are honey trap. He is sending such text since he was getting positive reply from the opposite side. Many married lives are destroyed because of such traps, recently there is another case of H Pandya also in news. Messages which you have shared clearly showed that they both are fully involved but now only Tim has to face the music.

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Quote from: onecall123 on November 26, 2021, 12:37:33 AM

Tim Paine is stepping away from cricket for the time being in order to focus on his mental health after resigning from the Australia Test captaincy following the 'sexting' scandal. The decision was made based on Paine's mental health or because of his embarrassment? Well, I guess this late realization doesn't help anybody.

He's 37 years. A break at this point means an end to his international career. But no sympathy for him. He should have been aware of the consequences. The allegation was filed by 47-year old Renee Ferguson. I am not sure whether this was some sort of a honey trap. But in either case, Paine should have been more careful. This is not expected from someone who is married with kids.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/tim-paine-woman-at-centre-of-sexting-scandal-files-sexual-harassment-suit-against-cricket-tasmania/news-story/da4e78950434205bdbe7ab0400747152

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Mr Paine then sent an image of his penis with the caption, “True, so f***ed,” in reference to the messages becoming public.

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Paine responded: “Will you want to taste my ***? F*** me, I’m seriously hard.”

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Paine continued: “Can’t rest them when I’m this hard! Need to ease the tension … Finish me off with those lips then. (Wink emoji) #trust.”

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 25, 2021, 09:59:09 PM

Still I am not sure whether the allegation is 100% true. If that is the case, he should be given the strictest punishment possible. But the cautious attitude from him in smuggling the luxury watches surprised me. Krunal Pandya (his brother) was booked for the same offense three days before Hardik was caught and yet he had the courage to repeat the offense. BTW, Hardik was not retained by the Mumbai Indians for the next IPL. I guess he may be playing for the Ahmedabad franchise in 2022.

https://www.dnaindia.com/cricket/report-ipl-2022-mega-auction-latest-updates-list-of-players-retained-by-csk-mi-dc-rcb-kkr-dhoni-kohli-pant-rohit-2921113

With such attitude he must be axed from Indian team as well as from ipl. He belongs to class of players who can't digest fame and money. I don't think he will be able to find a seat in Indian team after Kohli is no more a captain. Its still a big feast for Pandya to have seat in 2022 ipl.

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Quote from: onecall123 on November 26, 2021, 12:37:33 AM

Tim Paine is stepping away from cricket for the time being in order to focus on his mental health after resigning from the Australia Test captaincy following the 'sexting' scandal. The decision was made based on Paine's mental health or because of his embarrassment? Well, I guess this late realization doesn't help anybody.

Yes he is taking indefinite break from cricket after the scandal broke out. Ashes is very close but I don't think Tim absence will effect Australia performance. As they have very strong players in the lineup. Interesting fact is Cummin is first fast baller in 65 years to captain Australia.

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Tim Paine is stepping away from cricket for the time being in order to focus on his mental health after resigning from the Australia Test captaincy following the 'sexting' scandal. The decision was made based on Paine's mental health or because of his embarrassment? Well, I guess this late realization doesn't help anybody.

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Quote from: galambo on November 25, 2021, 07:53:33 AM

I'd you don't punish Pandya today, tomorrow other players will do the same thing. In South Asian countries, you can easily bypass law if you have power. Only weaker ones are given punishment. That's why these countries lag behind and are still underdeveloped. Rape allegation news on Pandya is gone as media is no more interested in covering that event. What an irony.

Still I am not sure whether the allegation is 100% true. If that is the case, he should be given the strictest punishment possible. But the cautious attitude from him in smuggling the luxury watches surprised me. Krunal Pandya (his brother) was booked for the same offense three days before Hardik was caught and yet he had the courage to repeat the offense. BTW, Hardik was not retained by the Mumbai Indians for the next IPL. I guess he may be playing for the Ahmedabad franchise in 2022.

https://www.dnaindia.com/cricket/report-ipl-2022-mega-auction-latest-updates-list-of-players-retained-by-csk-mi-dc-rcb-kkr-dhoni-kohli-pant-rohit-2921113

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 25, 2021, 09:04:52 AM

@Sithara007 hasn’t the watch issue too disappeared from the media, or should we give him the benefit of the doubt that he did declare the value and the media hyped it up.

Furthermore as far as the rape allegations are concerned BCCI is silent, the police don’t have proof so no one can say he’s guilty till it’s proved he actually is.

The media will hype the case and once it is resolved they will not apologize for that nor they will update the narrative, it is a common them globally. May be they have declared the value and paid the tax, it is not a criminal issues if they are willing to pay tax and not smuggle things.

Regarding the rape allegation, i know one lady accused several high profile people from politicians to cricket players about raping her, it is possible that it could be a blackmailing strategy as well to settle money outside court.

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I live in India, and I have to say that what you have posted here is true. If you have money, then anything is possible. If Hardik did this in the United States, then he will be sentenced to a minimum of 6 months in prison. They are very strict about tax evasion. But in India, he can just pay a financial penalty and escape any other form of punishment. The rape allegation is much more serious. Now I just hope that it was just a baseless allegation and the investigators would declare him as not guilty.

I'd you don't punish Pandya today, tomorrow other players will do the same thing. In South Asian countries, you can easily bypass law if you have power. Only weaker ones are given punishment. That's why these countries lag behind and are still underdeveloped. Rape allegation news on Pandya is gone as media is no more interested in covering that event. What an irony.

@Sithara007 hasn’t the watch issue too disappeared from the media, or should we give him the benefit of the doubt that he did declare the value and the media hyped it up.

Furthermore as far as the rape allegations are concerned BCCI is silent, the police don’t have proof so no one can say he’s guilty till it’s proved he actually is.

Also BCCI is keen to draft Hardik for SA tour if he’s proved fit, not surprising at all and now all he needs to do is prove his fitness and despite his poor form he’ll be welcomed in the squad.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 23, 2021, 12:08:41 AM

I live in India, and I have to say that what you have posted here is true. If you have money, then anything is possible. If Hardik did this in the United States, then he will be sentenced to a minimum of 6 months in prison. They are very strict about tax evasion. But in India, he can just pay a financial penalty and escape any other form of punishment. The rape allegation is much more serious. Now I just hope that it was just a baseless allegation and the investigators would declare him as not guilty.

I'd you don't punish Pandya today, tomorrow other players will do the same thing. In South Asian countries, you can easily bypass law if you have power. Only weaker ones are given punishment. That's why these countries lag behind and are still underdeveloped. Rape allegation news on Pandya is gone as media is no more interested in covering that event. What an irony.

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Quote from: Theones on November 20, 2021, 11:53:19 AM

Boards like BCCI are much more concerned about there repute then rule of law. Already news of rape allegations on pandya are no more to be seen. Moreover there is no inquiry on from where pandya get such expensive watches. In countries like India its easy to bypass law if you have money.

I live in India, and I have to say that what you have posted here is true. If you have money, then anything is possible. If Hardik did this in the United States, then he will be sentenced to a minimum of 6 months in prison. They are very strict about tax evasion. But in India, he can just pay a financial penalty and escape any other form of punishment. The rape allegation is much more serious. Now I just hope that it was just a baseless allegation and the investigators would declare him as not guilty.

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Quote from: Theones on November 20, 2021, 11:53:19 AM

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Boards like BCCI are much more concerned about there repute then rule of law. Already news of rape allegations on pandya are no more to be seen. Moreover there is no inquiry on from where pandya get such expensive watches. In countries like India its easy to bypass law if you have money.

The molestation charges are recent right from one of the woman who has connections with the underworld, that is what i read from the news and now the expensive watches. I do not think the BCCI will intervene in situation like these. When Sachin Tendulkar faced the same issue in the past for getting a car home which was gifted to him, he was asked to pay the prize of the car as tax because the import tax is 100% and the government gave him the concession because it was a gift for his performance and i do not remember BCCI intervene in that situation.

This is also personal problems and if anyone is to pay the tax for the items, BCCI will not intervene and what is the reputation when the news is already public, does not make any sense.

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Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 11:48:47 AM

So both brothers have done same mistake and that too at same airport. One brother must learn from mistake of other brother but they didnt. I was reading that HH Pandya was not able to give proof of purchase of there watches to custom department. ICC must intervene and find out whats going on but I am sure they will surrender once again in front of might BCCI.

The Pandya brothers are always controversial and why do you think that the law will surrender against BCCI, not sure how that works but if they would have the ability to solve them, these news would not be out in the public in the first place. So the idea of giving invisible powers for each and every situation is funny Cheesy

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What kind of watch they brought together to be held by the authorities, whatever it may be it looks silly, if it was against the law they should have settled it there rather than giving this a huge publicity.

Boards like BCCI are much more concerned about there repute then rule of law. Already news of rape allegations on pandya are no more to be seen. Moreover there is no inquiry on from where pandya get such expensive watches. In countries like India its easy to bypass law if you have money.

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Quote from: galambo on November 19, 2021, 11:48:47 AM

So both brothers have done same mistake and that too at same airport. One brother must learn from mistake of other brother but they didnt. I was reading that HH Pandya was not able to give proof of purchase of there watches to custom department. ICC must intervene and find out whats going on but I am sure they will surrender once again in front of might BCCI.

The Pandya brothers are always controversial and why do you think that the law will surrender against BCCI, not sure how that works but if they would have the ability to solve them, these news would not be out in the public in the first place. So the idea of giving invisible powers for each and every situation is funny Cheesy

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What kind of watch they brought together to be held by the authorities, whatever it may be it looks silly, if it was against the law they should have settled it there rather than giving this a huge publicity.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 18, 2021, 10:01:45 PM

I am not sure whether his statement is satisfactory enough. The market value of these two watches stand at ₹50 million and Pandya is still claiming that he purchased them for ₹15 million. BTW, some time previously Krunal Pandya was detained at the same airport. Krunal went a level higher. He just didn't declared the watches upon arrival. He was caught red handed and forced to pay a penalty. I am from India, and one thing that I can say with surety is that the customs department doesn't issue a notice to anyone unless they have concrete proof.

So both brothers have done same mistake and that too at same airport. One brother must learn from mistake of other brother but they didnt. I was reading that HH Pandya was not able to give proof of purchase of there watches to custom department. ICC must intervene and find out whats going on but I am sure they will surrender once again in front of might BCCI.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 17, 2021, 11:16:38 PM

@Sithara007 I won’t comment on the rape issue until it’s proved, because most likely it’ll never be proved due to lack of evidence as it’s always seen when a case is filed against a famous person.

Furthermore as for the watches are concerned he gave a statement which said that he declared full customs, but the officers wanted to revalue it and he believes the media is misleading the people, but he didn’t say he’ll sue those outlets for spreading lies which does make me wonder who’s correct and who’s lying.

I am not sure whether his statement is satisfactory enough. The market value of these two watches stand at ₹50 million and Pandya is still claiming that he purchased them for ₹15 million. BTW, some time previously Krunal Pandya was detained at the same airport. Krunal went a level higher. He just didn't declared the watches upon arrival. He was caught red handed and forced to pay a penalty. I am from India, and one thing that I can say with surety is that the customs department doesn't issue a notice to anyone unless they have concrete proof.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 17, 2021, 10:15:16 PM

No sympathy for Pandya here. Even if there is no truth in the rape allegations (which I doubt), he doesn't have any excuse in smuggling luxury watches. Pandya purchased the watches in the UAE and brought them to India without paying the import duty at the airport. A poor third world country such as India can't afford to have people like Pandya, who refuse to pay the due taxes. I hope he will get punished for this, although most likely he will be let off with a warning thanks to his political connections. And let's not forget that this is the same guy who suggested the Indian team to take the knee at the world cup. Imagine this, a tax evader advising the team on how to react against racism in the United States and at the same time refusing to pay taxes in India.

This is a very casual attitude from such a big player who has played lots of cricket and has traveled a lot. He is in news for rape allegations and he must be very careful with everything rather he opened another case. He must be punished for such casual behavior, which is bringing shame to Indian cricket. The estimated price of his watches are 5 crore INR.

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