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Quote from: olib123 on February 13, 2022, 02:37:30 AM

Yes pakistan do have a very good t20 squad and their inclusion in IPL would surely make it better . But I have to say even without them IPL is getting better and better over the years. With 2 new teams coming this year will make IPL even more interesting and competitiveness will increase. I am really excited for this season of IPL.

Two new teams will make this league even bigger. Hardik Pandya who is recently dropped recently from Indian team due to his performance will lead Gujrat while Lucknow will lead by KL Rahul. Gujrat Titans bought Pandya for 15 crore. Money is raining specially on Indian players in IPL. Its a win win situation for everyone for bcci, for Indian players and for remaining of cricket world.

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Quote from: Theones on February 13, 2022, 12:58:15 AM

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This is something beyond the slogan of sports, namely upholding sportsmanship. Often times the Pakistan vs India match is always seasoned with politics and religion, many victims of civil society as a result of one party being dissatisfied with the result of the match and the community being the victim on accusations of religious reasons.
I hope that in the future both parties can uphold sportsmanship, losing or winning is an art in a game.

Things are getting worse between these two countries for 70 years and there are not many bright chances of better relations between these two countries. IPL is not affected because of Pakistani players exclusion rather its progressing heavily. Despite the fact that Pakistan has good T20 squad.

Yes pakistan do have a very good t20 squad and their inclusion in IPL would surely make it better . But I have to say even without them IPL is getting better and better over the years. With 2 new teams coming this year will make IPL even more interesting and competitiveness will increase. I am really excited for this season of IPL.

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This is something beyond the slogan of sports, namely upholding sportsmanship. Often times the Pakistan vs India match is always seasoned with politics and religion, many victims of civil society as a result of one party being dissatisfied with the result of the match and the community being the victim on accusations of religious reasons.
I hope that in the future both parties can uphold sportsmanship, losing or winning is an art in a game.

Things are getting worse between these two countries for 70 years and there are not many bright chances of better relations between these two countries. IPL is not affected because of Pakistani players exclusion rather its progressing heavily. Despite the fact that Pakistan has good T20 squad.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 12, 2022, 09:34:32 AM

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

It's purely a political decision of not including Pakistani players in IPL since present govt of boh counties don't have good ties. PSL current edition is 7th over and so far it's a good journey for Pakistan. Initially PSL was held in dubai but now all matches are played in Pakistan and players from all countries are participating in it.
Apart from that Pakistani players are also participating in all leagues world wide which give them a good exposure and chance to earn money.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 12, 2022, 09:34:32 AM

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

In Pakistan no one is now thinking about IPL because now their own brand is doing good and in coming years surely future is bright for them with some good marketing is also giving them good response and country economy is also having some good impact on this all about quality it's already having very good impact as many legendry cricketers are fan of this PSL because they are feeling currently worlds top ranked twenty/20 players involved in this league is mean quality of this league.

Now, they are going to complete first phase of seven years which is good with now having new era is coming for them under professional leadership which is going to change many things in near future for better quality and fairness of this league as in start first challenge was bringing this league at home now second challenge is good marketing which will spread this in near future for better fan base around the world.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2022, 09:37:37 PM

Well.. I am not against that strategy. But Australia is a small country and the total population is around 1/10th of that of some of the Indian or Pakistani provinces. In order for the BBL to become financially viable, they need to attract viewership from South Asia. Indian players are banned from taking part in the BBL, so that option is tricky. But they gained a lot of viewership in Pakistan, because a number of Pak players are representing various BBL sides. A compromise can be reached, and I guess 3 is a more suitable limit instead of the current two.

Indian players are banned to take part in any league not only in BBL, this is only BCCI arrogance nothing else. Those players who can't play IPL must be allowed to go out and play other leagues to earn money.
Unmukt Chand became first indian to take part in BBL. He signs for the Melbourne Renegades. May be we see more Indian players joining BBL.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/melbourne-renegades-bbl-big-bash-league-first-ever-indian-player-unmukt-chand/2021-11-04

But are the cricketers willing to take that chance of being a bad person in BCCI's eye?

That should be the bigger question because if all the players say that they want to play in other cricket leagues then obviously BCCI will have to permit that and then they are against will be broken. BCCI is just too attached to money and they want to get all the money that they can and that is why they really don't think about the player's future.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 12, 2022, 04:52:07 AM

Quote from: jaberwock on February 12, 2022, 04:07:04 AM

Yeah, but if they want some better exposure of BBL then surely they need to do some better things like bring 4 players from overseas is also not bad at all because this can bring few players from South Africa, England and few other countries as well which help them in viewership as surely currently BBL is second most watched league in Pakistan with PSL having first spot and IPL is banned.

But, Australia is developed country and their financial infrastructure is also very strong which is helping them for having good money from this league but in next few years we can watch many things going to change with leagues war is now on and all boards looking for better finances with IPL surely going to stay at top and for second and third spot fight is going to be very tough.

IPL is banned for Pakistani players and Pakistan has banned IPL airing in the country. It doesn't matter to India since there financial loses with Pakistan ban is nothing. But definitely its PCB that is suffering financial losses due to IPL ban imposed by BCCI.
T20 Leagues mania has taken over all boards. No league is near future can replace IPL from number one spot. There is only battle for second and third spot.

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

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Quote from: jaberwock on February 12, 2022, 04:07:04 AM

Yeah, but if they want some better exposure of BBL then surely they need to do some better things like bring 4 players from overseas is also not bad at all because this can bring few players from South Africa, England and few other countries as well which help them in viewership as surely currently BBL is second most watched league in Pakistan with PSL having first spot and IPL is banned.

But, Australia is developed country and their financial infrastructure is also very strong which is helping them for having good money from this league but in next few years we can watch many things going to change with leagues war is now on and all boards looking for better finances with IPL surely going to stay at top and for second and third spot fight is going to be very tough.

IPL is banned for Pakistani players and Pakistan has banned IPL airing in the country. It doesn't matter to India since there financial loses with Pakistan ban is nothing. But definitely its PCB that is suffering financial losses due to IPL ban imposed by BCCI.
T20 Leagues mania has taken over all boards. No league is near future can replace IPL from number one spot. There is only battle for second and third spot.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2022, 09:37:37 PM

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But I think that BBL has made the restrictions about overseas players for only two because they want players from Australia to get more chances to prove themselves. If there are more overseas players, sometimes the local players' performance can be overshadowed by the well-known overseas players. So, it is a good decision in my opinion. But the salary cap is obviously low.

Well.. I am not against that strategy. But Australia is a small country and the total population is around 1/10th of that of some of the Indian or Pakistani provinces. In order for the BBL to become financially viable, they need to attract viewership from South Asia. Indian players are banned from taking part in the BBL, so that option is tricky. But they gained a lot of viewership in Pakistan, because a number of Pak players are representing various BBL sides. A compromise can be reached, and I guess 3 is a more suitable limit instead of the current two.

Yeah, but if they want some better exposure of BBL then surely they need to do some better things like bring 4 players from overseas is also not bad at all because this can bring few players from South Africa, England and few other countries as well which help them in viewership as surely currently BBL is second most watched league in Pakistan with PSL having first spot and IPL is banned.

But, Australia is developed country and their financial infrastructure is also very strong which is helping them for having good money from this league but in next few years we can watch many things going to change with leagues war is now on and all boards looking for better finances with IPL surely going to stay at top and for second and third spot fight is going to be very tough.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2022, 09:37:37 PM

Well.. I am not against that strategy. But Australia is a small country and the total population is around 1/10th of that of some of the Indian or Pakistani provinces. In order for the BBL to become financially viable, they need to attract viewership from South Asia. Indian players are banned from taking part in the BBL, so that option is tricky. But they gained a lot of viewership in Pakistan, because a number of Pak players are representing various BBL sides. A compromise can be reached, and I guess 3 is a more suitable limit instead of the current two.

Indian players are banned to take part in any league not only in BBL, this is only BCCI arrogance nothing else. Those players who can't play IPL must be allowed to go out and play other leagues to earn money.
Unmukt Chand became first indian to take part in BBL. He signs for the Melbourne Renegades. May be we see more Indian players joining BBL.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/melbourne-renegades-bbl-big-bash-league-first-ever-indian-player-unmukt-chand/2021-11-04

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 11, 2022, 07:40:33 AM

But I think that BBL has made the restrictions about overseas players for only two because they want players from Australia to get more chances to prove themselves. If there are more overseas players, sometimes the local players' performance can be overshadowed by the well-known overseas players. So, it is a good decision in my opinion. But the salary cap is obviously low.

Well.. I am not against that strategy. But Australia is a small country and the total population is around 1/10th of that of some of the Indian or Pakistani provinces. In order for the BBL to become financially viable, they need to attract viewership from South Asia. Indian players are banned from taking part in the BBL, so that option is tricky. But they gained a lot of viewership in Pakistan, because a number of Pak players are representing various BBL sides. A compromise can be reached, and I guess 3 is a more suitable limit instead of the current two.

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Quote from: galambo on February 10, 2022, 06:53:24 AM

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I was not looking for comparison of PSL and IPL since I already knew that IPL is way ahead of all leagues since they pay heavily to everyone involved in the league. What I inferred is that BBL is at no second followed by PSL and BPL. BBl is not even played by Aussies players, you can easily see the popularity of this league in Australia.

Are you saying Big Bash League is the second biggest league cricket, if so that is a fact. You cannot compare IPL to any other league but when it comes to revenue and viewership Big Bash League is second and then Caribbean Premier League, T20 Blast League is also catching up and then comes PSL, but i tried to check all of their revenue streams but could not find any authentic ones.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 11, 2022, 11:35:02 AM

Their governments should be blamed for this. So many international players are preferring the IPL over their own country leagues primarily because their governments aren't taking care of them properly.

I have a different oponion on this. Its the government that groom the player before it makes it way to the national squad and from there its picked by IPL. Can you name any single oversea player that is playing IPL and hasn't represented its national team? There is none such player. If quality of cricket keep on going like that we wont see IPL players coming out from Westindies, Sri lanka and Zim

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But afraid picture is quite different like you mentioned, every respective league is based on private investment and motivated by revenues only. In competitive market if you're not fit or your product is incapable to adapt then you're destined to fail as it should be.

Yeah. BCCI did a great job with most IPL seasons so far and this most probably won't change in the future which is why many other Cricket boards should focus on learning from their successful strategies in order to improve.

Quote from: blatchcorn on February 10, 2022, 10:56:10 PM

But we have to admit that quality of cricket is going down in most of teams as evident from performance of West Indies, South Africa and Zimbabwe. They were once considered to be strong or reasonably strong teams.

Their governments should be blamed for this. So many international players are preferring the IPL over their own country leagues primarily because their governments aren't taking care of them properly.

Well we can blame government for this totally. Players get good money in IPL because there is a lot of investement in cricket in india.BCCI is rich and earning good money.
But this is not the situation with boards like west indies. They dont have that much money to pay thier players more than IPL.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 10, 2022, 11:53:51 AM

But afraid picture is quite different like you mentioned, every respective league is based on private investment and motivated by revenues only. In competitive market if you're not fit or your product is incapable to adapt then you're destined to fail as it should be.

Yeah. BCCI did a great job with most IPL seasons so far and this most probably won't change in the future which is why many other Cricket boards should focus on learning from their successful strategies in order to improve.

Quote from: blatchcorn on February 10, 2022, 10:56:10 PM

But we have to admit that quality of cricket is going down in most of teams as evident from performance of West Indies, South Africa and Zimbabwe. They were once considered to be strong or reasonably strong teams.

Their governments should be blamed for this. So many international players are preferring the IPL over their own country leagues primarily because their governments aren't taking care of them properly.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2022, 09:28:29 PM

In terms of entertainment value, I rank BBL as the second best franchise T20 league, behind the IPL. But the issue with BBL is that many of the Australian players have pulled out of the league because of low salaries. The BBL salary cap is too low, when compared to the other leagues. On top of that they have a limit of just two overseas players, which somehow limits the viewership outside Australia. All that said, I can't deny the fact that BBL maintains exceptional quality and have made a lot of contribution to the women's game (through the WBBL).

AFAIK only England and Australia are focusing on woman cricket other then that no board is interested in woman's cricket not even the money rich BCCI. What else to talk about other boards. In men's BBL, players from Aus national team are not seen as they are busy playing bilateral series. BBL provides a good opportunity for domestic players of Aus to play at such high level.

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Quote from: galambo on February 10, 2022, 06:53:24 AM

I was not looking for comparison of PSL and IPL since I already knew that IPL is way ahead of all leagues since they pay heavily to everyone involved in the league. What I inferred is that BBL is at no second followed by PSL and BPL. BBl is not even played by Aussies players, you can easily see the popularity of this league in Australia.

In terms of entertainment value, I rank BBL as the second best franchise T20 league, behind the IPL. But the issue with BBL is that many of the Australian players have pulled out of the league because of low salaries. The BBL salary cap is too low, when compared to the other leagues. On top of that they have a limit of just two overseas players, which somehow limits the viewership outside Australia. All that said, I can't deny the fact that BBL maintains exceptional quality and have made a lot of contribution to the women's game (through the WBBL).

But I think that BBL has made the restrictions about overseas players for only two because they want players from Australia to get more chances to prove themselves. If there are more overseas players, sometimes the local players' performance can be overshadowed by the well-known overseas players. So, it is a good decision in my opinion. But the salary cap is obviously low.

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Quote from: kro55 on February 10, 2022, 01:43:17 PM

Money is always going to be a big factor for the cricket boards. But right now it seems like money is more important than cricket to the boards. Undecided

I mean it's okay to chase money, but the obvious greed brings downfall. And the cricket boards all around the world are either reach or absolutely broke. BCCA does make money quite well but they also find young talent through IPL too.

Money was not very much into cricket since 2010 I would say but we have quality teams. Its IPL that completely changed the dynamic of cricket by bringing in huge money. But we have to admit that quality of cricket is going down in most of teams as evident from performance of West Indies, South Africa and Zimbabwe. They were once considered to be strong or reasonably strong teams.

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Quote from: galambo on February 10, 2022, 06:53:24 AM

I was not looking for comparison of PSL and IPL since I already knew that IPL is way ahead of all leagues since they pay heavily to everyone involved in the league. What I inferred is that BBL is at no second followed by PSL and BPL. BBl is not even played by Aussies players, you can easily see the popularity of this league in Australia.

In terms of entertainment value, I rank BBL as the second best franchise T20 league, behind the IPL. But the issue with BBL is that many of the Australian players have pulled out of the league because of low salaries. The BBL salary cap is too low, when compared to the other leagues. On top of that they have a limit of just two overseas players, which somehow limits the viewership outside Australia. All that said, I can't deny the fact that BBL maintains exceptional quality and have made a lot of contribution to the women's game (through the WBBL).

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on February 09, 2022, 01:03:44 PM

Because, this healthy competition is very important for them and all cricket community. Right now we have IPL, PSL and Vitality Blast these are doing much better, but now few are having issues which need to settle before we are late and these disappear from sight, and we lost some good cricket from many players.

I understand your perspective which is morally correct, but you need to understand the fact that reality is something else entirely. No board gives a crap about how their decisions will impact other boards since money is all that matters to them.
This logic applied to every single Cricket board out there(Not just BCCI) and it makes sense to be honest since it's the survival of the fittest overall.

Post made by savetheFORUM sounds like socialism type solution to me, help the marginalized.
But afraid picture is quite different like you mentioned, every respective league is based on private investment and motivated by revenues only. In competitive market if you're not fit or your product is incapable to adapt then you're destined to fail as it should be.

Money is always going to be a big factor for the cricket boards. But right now it seems like money is more important than cricket to the boards. Undecided

I mean it's okay to chase money, but the obvious greed brings downfall. And the cricket boards all around the world are either reach or absolutely broke. BCCA does make money quite well but they also find young talent through IPL too.

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