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Quote from: romero121 on February 28, 2022, 04:42:43 AM

This is a big history in Cricket. This series will surely help Pakistan build better infrastructure for cricket. Moreover we can expect more countries touring Pakistan in the coming months. Pakistan will give good security for the players and Pakistan people will be happy to watch a big series happening in the country after a long gap. As said Australia will have good chance on tests and T20 will be dominated by Pakistan.

It's a make or break situation for Pakistan and it all depends on how well this series goes from security point of view and Pakistan authorities must be aware of this. If this series is conducted then all teams less India will be comfortable in touring Pakistan.
Australia are coming with there full squad and none of there player has refused to tour Pakistan. This indicates that players along with Australia government is happy in touring Pakistan.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 27, 2022, 04:28:18 AM

Let's just deviate from Pakistan India seris which is not going to happen in a decade.

There is breaking news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Australia arrive in Pakistan for first tour in 24 years. Aussie captain after touch down in Pakistan saying 'I feel incredibly safe,'.

Tour will start with 3 match test series and first test is scheduled on 4th March 2022. Both teams are in good form. I rate Australia favorite for test format while Pakistan in T20 series as both have performed well in these formats.

This is a big history in Cricket. This series will surely help Pakistan build better infrastructure for cricket. Moreover we can expect more countries touring Pakistan in the coming months. Pakistan will give good security for the players and Pakistan people will be happy to watch a big series happening in the country after a long gap. As said Australia will have good chance on tests and T20 will be dominated by Pakistan.

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Few years back these both countries were ruling in Field hockey as both were playing against each other but as they stop now both are out and down but still not understanding mean all is now down and out for personal ego.

It was a fact that India and Pakistan had some of the best Hockey players in the world Shahbaz Ahmed, Sohail Abbas and Hassan Sardar from Pakistan where Sohail Abbas was a goal scoring machine and from India Dhanraj Pillay and then the legend himself Dhyan Chand who is globally considered as the greatest Hockey player of all time.

The reason the sport of Hockey is dying is because India and Pakistan consider Cricket as the greatest sport rejecting all other sports and i bet none of the present generation might not know these legendary players i mentioned nor wanted to emulate them and when the Hockey rules were formed India nor Pakistan had a say on the global rules and India and Pakistan players played in grass fields and now the match is conducted in astroturf and hence European and Australia are ruling the Hockey field after that switch.

Although this is a cricket thread and other sports discussion does not mean anything here, however I haven't heard of these two nation focusing on hockey as this game is no more popular. All the interest seems to be in cricket therefore we see cricket being popular with all those leagues and stuff. Don't know which other sports is popular in both the countries.

Quote from: blatchcorn on February 27, 2022, 04:28:18 AM

Let's just deviate from Pakistan India seris which is not going to happen in a decade.

There is breaking news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Australia arrive in Pakistan for first tour in 24 years. Aussie captain after touch down in Pakistan saying 'I feel incredibly safe,'.

Tour will start with 3 match test series and first test is scheduled on 4th March 2022. Both teams are in good form. I rate Australia favorite for test format while Pakistan in T20 series as both have performed well in these formats.

That would be a interesingt series and since australia team has come after two decades to visit pakistan, the result of the series will matter a lot. Australia will never want to lose this series and pakistan will be keen to make the history.

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Let's just deviate from Pakistan India seris which is not going to happen in a decade.

There is breaking news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as Australia arrive in Pakistan for first tour in 24 years. Aussie captain after touch down in Pakistan saying 'I feel incredibly safe,'.

Tour will start with 3 match test series and first test is scheduled on 4th March 2022. Both teams are in good form. I rate Australia favorite for test format while Pakistan in T20 series as both have performed well in these formats.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 26, 2022, 09:58:23 PM

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If people were saying that the matches of India vs Pakistan shouldn't be even played under ICC tournaments and regulations I think they have just lost their mind and they are just some lifeless beings who have nothing better to do than spread hate all over the world.

You may think that these sort of discussions are initiated only among fringe groups with no parliament representations. But that is not true. When India was facing Pakistan during the T20 World Cup in the UAE, one of the major regional parties (Shiv Sena) actually asked the government and the BCCI to pull out of the tournament, so that India doesn't need to play against Pakistan. And incidentally this is the same political party which once dug up the cricket pitch in order to prevent a India vs Pakistan test match.

As I have previously said these things can only be done by people with no brain and a sick mentality. The hatred in the mind of these people is absolutely unbelievable and I am sure those people are absolute Islamophobes. And the only thing that they are good at is to hit on other people that don't agree with them. And I don't see any action being taken against these people because they are backed up by the people in power.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 26, 2022, 09:58:23 PM

You may think that these sort of discussions are initiated only among fringe groups with no parliament representations. But that is not true. When India was facing Pakistan during the T20 World Cup in the UAE, one of the major regional parties (Shiv Sena) actually asked the government and the BCCI to pull out of the tournament, so that India doesn't need to play against Pakistan. And incidentally this is the same political party which once dug up the cricket pitch in order to prevent a India vs Pakistan test match.

Shiv Sena always have hard stance on relationship with Pakistan even the death of there leader Bal Thackeray have no effect on there hard line stance. I don't see that sort of pressure from Pakistan side. Ever since BCCI became member of big 3 they are not playing with Pakistan to prove there supremacy and not allowing Pakistani to participate in IPL.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 26, 2022, 02:09:09 AM

If people were saying that the matches of India vs Pakistan shouldn't be even played under ICC tournaments and regulations I think they have just lost their mind and they are just some lifeless beings who have nothing better to do than spread hate all over the world.

You may think that these sort of discussions are initiated only among fringe groups with no parliament representations. But that is not true. When India was facing Pakistan during the T20 World Cup in the UAE, one of the major regional parties (Shiv Sena) actually asked the government and the BCCI to pull out of the tournament, so that India doesn't need to play against Pakistan. And incidentally this is the same political party which once dug up the cricket pitch in order to prevent a India vs Pakistan test match.

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Quote from: jostorres on February 26, 2022, 12:49:14 PM

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Few years back these both countries were ruling in Field hockey as both were playing against each other but as they stop now both are out and down but still not understanding mean all is now down and out for personal ego.

It was a fact that India and Pakistan had some of the best Hockey players in the world Shahbaz Ahmed, Sohail Abbas and Hassan Sardar from Pakistan where Sohail Abbas was a goal scoring machine and from India Dhanraj Pillay and then the legend himself Dhyan Chand who is globally considered as the greatest Hockey player of all time.

The reason the sport of Hockey is dying is because India and Pakistan consider Cricket as the greatest sport rejecting all other sports and i bet none of the present generation might not know these legendary players i mentioned nor wanted to emulate them and when the Hockey rules were formed India nor Pakistan had a say on the global rules and India and Pakistan players played in grass fields and now the match is conducted in astroturf and hence European and Australia are ruling the Hockey field after that switch.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 26, 2022, 06:46:37 AM

Quote from: Lordshiva on February 26, 2022, 03:42:54 AM

Talking about cricket yes I also dont see this happening may for 3 to 4 years atleast or even more.

Agreed. It is possible for India-Pakistan to resolve their issues in the future so that their respective teams can play against each other more often, but I don't see that happening anytime soon as you mentioned.

Fault lies on both sides for various reasons. Both Cricket teams consist of a multitude of talented players and it would be great to see more matches across all formats between them.

All is possible in cricket world but right now it's not possible in these two countries India-Pakistan because here most of the politicians are having full time jobs with their politics, and they never want to solve issues and bring transparency between these two countries which help common peoples lives and bring better things in their lives, so mostly they try to create more hate and done things which bring more chaos. In last 20 years now it's all on top so if someone want to solve then surely it's need very long time and all possible just will table talk which is not happening for many years and just backing on media for better ratings and vote banks.

Few years back these both countries were ruling in Field hockey as both were playing against each other but as they stop now both are out and down but still not understanding mean all is now down and out for personal ego.

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Australia tour to Pakistan after 22 years,

Australian captain Pat Cummins says that Mitchell Swepson and Ashton Agar are available for tour to Pakistan despite the fact that they have played very little or no domestic cricket. Last time Pakistan and Australia played a bilateral series was in Oct 2018 and at that Jon Holland and Lyon are main spinners.

Spinners are called in since in subcontinent pitches spinners have upper hand over fast bowlers specially in test cricket.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-vs-australia-2022-mitchell-swepson-and-ashton-agar-backed-to-be-ready-if-needed-in-pakistan-1302668

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Quote from: Lordshiva on February 26, 2022, 03:42:54 AM

Talking about cricket yes I also dont see this happening may for 3 to 4 years atleast or even more.

Agreed. It is possible for India-Pakistan to resolve their issues in the future so that their respective teams can play against each other more often, but I don't see that happening anytime soon as you mentioned.

Fault lies on both sides for various reasons. Both Cricket teams consist of a multitude of talented players and it would be great to see more matches across all formats between them.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 26, 2022, 02:58:27 AM

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

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The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

The funny thing is that both are same people who speaks the same language and yet they hate each other, i believe it is political and there is not much hate between normal citizens in both countries. The media and the politicians always want conflict so that they can sell those hatred and win elections Cheesy

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

So what is his position as a leader, looks like he is a joke with all the memes and compilations i have seen about his brilliance about war tactics and radar technology Cheesy

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Well, I am sure the people who made those names and jokes are probably taken care of by now Cheesy

. I've heard Indian people from some subcontinent talking about, Modi Govt's favoring Hinduism over democracy. Everyone, even in India, has a really good idea about what I am talking about.

Anyway, let's talk about sports. I really don't think that the political situation is going to get better between these two countries very soon and until that time we are not going to see any series played between these teams.

Well I am from India and I dont agree with this at all that it is favouring hinduism above democracy. All the muslims are living in the country with 100% freedom and their situations is better than other muslim nations around the world. But it is spread all over that this government in favouring hinduism only.
Talking about cricket yes I also dont see this happening may for 3 to 4 years atleast or even more.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on February 25, 2022, 05:22:15 PM

Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

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The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

The funny thing is that both are same people who speaks the same language and yet they hate each other, i believe it is political and there is not much hate between normal citizens in both countries. The media and the politicians always want conflict so that they can sell those hatred and win elections Cheesy

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

So what is his position as a leader, looks like he is a joke with all the memes and compilations i have seen about his brilliance about war tactics and radar technology Cheesy

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Well, I am sure the people who made those names and jokes are probably taken care of by now Cheesy

. I've heard Indian people from some subcontinent talking about, Modi Govt's favoring Hinduism over democracy. Everyone, even in India, has a really good idea about what I am talking about.

Anyway, let's talk about sports. I really don't think that the political situation is going to get better between these two countries very soon and until that time we are not going to see any series played between these teams.

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The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

Right now any talk about Pakistan/India is completely waste of time because currently in India we have very strict religious peoples in control and their all politics is just against Pakistan, so they will never allow this even if they lost election then still there are no chances for any because currently hate is on his highest level with recently hijab debate is also working as oil in this fire, so I am feeling talking about this is also waste of time and energy we have too many other topics as well right now for talk just drop this idea and talk about other issues related to cricket and about development is much better for all members.
If few players are friends then still they can't afford many things because they all know how reaction can come against them which will hurt them and their families, so it's all just useless in subcontinent right now.

I think a few players are still friends with each other in India and Pakistan but the problem is we have seen the fans of both countries do some stupid things. we all remember when India lost to Bangladesh in the 2007 world cup. People were burning down things in front of the players' houses and verbally abusing them.

So, I think we all can guess how it would be if any player talks about anything good of Pakistan. and I think something same like that could also happen in Pakistan.

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2022, 02:52:35 PM

Punjabi players like Yuvraj Singh, Navjot Sidhu and Harbhajan Singh often keep good relationship with the Pakistani players because they feel culturally very close to that country. But don't expect that from the other players. Even Virat Kohli, with all his wokeism doesn't have the courage to do something like that. For now, let's contend with the matches in ICC tournaments. Some of the fringe political groups in India are now demanding that the government shouldn't allow even these matches to proceed.

If people were saying that the matches of India vs Pakistan shouldn't be even played under ICC tournaments and regulations I think they have just lost their mind and they are just some lifeless beings who have nothing better to do than spread hate all over the world.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 25, 2022, 10:02:55 AM

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I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

But the ironry is that players have no control over this matter and the sole authority in this matter is governments of both countries.
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I actually did not know that Ukraine was into cricket. The recent things that are going on in that country are absolutely inhuman.

And we can see how the political situation can affect everything in that country. Unless the situation gets better they have a lot bigger problems to solve in their hand rather than cricket. And even after returning to normal life, the country will have to concentrate on its structural development first. Cricket in Ukraine just went behind a lot of years.

Quote from: Lordshiva on February 25, 2022, 10:33:11 AM

The only reason that pakistan players are not allowed in IPL is because of political issues between the two countries. This actually I dont like, why we bring sports in between political issues. I am sure players from both countries want to play with each other and against each other. We as cricket fans also want this match up but sadly I dont see this happen any time soon because of political tension between india and pakistan.

I agree that we should not bring sports into political issues but the thing is in the Indian subcontinent politics controls sports and almost every other thing in these countries.

You have also said that if it was not for the political tension we would see the India VS Pakistan series. But right now I think ok I like the way Pakistan is going about things. There was a time when they thought it would make a huge impact for them to play in IPL or have played against India but now I think they most probably don't care.

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Quote from: perfect999 on February 25, 2022, 11:54:56 PM

Right now any talk about Pakistan/India is completely waste of time because currently in India we have very strict religious peoples in control and their all politics is just against Pakistan, so they will never allow this even if they lost election then still there are no chances for any because currently hate is on his highest level with recently hijab debate is also working as oil in this fire, so I am feeling talking about this is also waste of time and energy we have too many other topics as well right now for talk just drop this idea and talk about other issues related to cricket and about development is much better for all members.

If few players are friends then still they can't afford many things because they all know how reaction can come against them which will hurt them and their families, so it's all just useless in subcontinent right now.

I do agree that there is no point in discussing this issue of India Pakistan matches or series as it will never happen. In India we have a clown who just keep on digging issues that are of no matter like CAA, farmers law and now hijab law. So he won't allow matches with Pakistan just to spread more hate.

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 01:00:31 PM

The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

Right now any talk about Pakistan/India is completely waste of time because currently in India we have very strict religious peoples in control and their all politics is just against Pakistan, so they will never allow this even if they lost election then still there are no chances for any because currently hate is on his highest level with recently hijab debate is also working as oil in this fire, so I am feeling talking about this is also waste of time and energy we have too many other topics as well right now for talk just drop this idea and talk about other issues related to cricket and about development is much better for all members.

If few players are friends then still they can't afford many things because they all know how reaction can come against them which will hurt them and their families, so it's all just useless in subcontinent right now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2022, 02:52:35 PM

Punjabi players like Yuvraj Singh, Navjot Sidhu and Harbhajan Singh often keep good relationship with the Pakistani players because they feel culturally very close to that country. But don't expect that from the other players. Even Virat Kohli, with all his wokeism doesn't have the courage to do something like that. For now, let's contend with the matches in ICC tournaments. Some of the fringe political groups in India are now demanding that the government shouldn't allow even these matches to proceed.

These fringe political groups pressure was also one reason why India lost to Pakistan in last T20 WC as there players were under pressure and not sure about the game while Pakistani players focused on the game. I would say Pakistani players are a bit liberal in this matter as they don't have pressure from any group to avoid Indian players.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

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The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

The funny thing is that both are same people who speaks the same language and yet they hate each other, i believe it is political and there is not much hate between normal citizens in both countries. The media and the politicians always want conflict so that they can sell those hatred and win elections Cheesy

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

So what is his position as a leader, looks like he is a joke with all the memes and compilations i have seen about his brilliance about war tactics and radar technology Cheesy

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 01:00:31 PM

The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

Punjabi players like Yuvraj Singh, Navjot Sidhu and Harbhajan Singh often keep good relationship with the Pakistani players because they feel culturally very close to that country. But don't expect that from the other players. Even Virat Kohli, with all his wokeism doesn't have the courage to do something like that. For now, let's contend with the matches in ICC tournaments. Some of the fringe political groups in India are now demanding that the government shouldn't allow even these matches to proceed.

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