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Quote from: Lordshiva on February 25, 2022, 10:33:11 AM

The only reason that pakistan players are not allowed in IPL is because of political issues between the two countries. This actually I dont like, why we bring sports in between political issues. I am sure players from both countries want to play with each other and against each other. We as cricket fans also want this match up but sadly I dont see this happen any time soon because of political tension between india and pakistan.

The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

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I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

But the ironry is that players have no control over this matter and the sole authority in this matter is governments of both countries.

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The only reason that pakistan players are not allowed in IPL is because of political issues between the two countries. This actually I dont like, why we bring sports in between political issues. I am sure players from both countries want to play with each other and against each other. We as cricket fans also want this match up but sadly I dont see this happen any time soon because of political tension between india and pakistan.

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Quote from: Minecache on February 25, 2022, 05:29:17 AM

I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

But the ironry is that players have no control over this matter and the sole authority in this matter is governments of both countries.

There are news of cricket coming from Ukraine as CEO of Ukraine Cricket Federation saying, 'Developing cricket in Ukraine has almost been an obsession'. I never knew that there is Cricket association in Ukraine. Lets hope things get settled peacefully and we see normal life returning to Ukarine.

"I'm not sure if our cricket oval will survive the bombings. It's a new ground with pavilions being installed and there is a beautiful indoor facility with nets to be set up. That was going to be our cricket headquarters… I'm not sure now" Olivier on the cricket facilities in Kharkiv

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 24, 2022, 11:08:38 AM

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Pakistan and India matches are always interesting as they both hate losing each other. The rivalry between India and Pakistan is far ahead of what we see in Ashes. Ashes is played on regular basis while last time India and Pakistan series was held decade ago. Sunil Gavaskar once said " there is more chance of snow in lahore(hot city of Pakistan)then India Pakistan series "

Well by this quote of Sunil Gavaskar I think we can understand in which situation this India versus Pakistan is in. I really don't think that the players have too much objection to playing against each other.

In my opinion, it's more like the people in power who are ultimately controlled by the government, have a huge problem about this. And they just have to prove that they are better than the other, also don't want to give any benefit or else I think I should say, that watch out that the other party does not get benefited in any way.

I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 24, 2022, 06:08:14 PM

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BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

The reasons are twisted here, Pakistan players participated in the IPL during the initial tournament and when the Mumbai terror attack happened these sanctions came into place, if the Pakistan government was willing to weed out the terrorist i am sure there wont be any sanctions but they never took the responsibility of the attack when it was evident that the attack was carried out from Pakistan.
To say that the players are not included because they performed well is not the truth, Mumbai attack the aftermath is the reason for not allowing Pakistan players in the IPL and the cricket ties between India and Pakistan became standstill after that.

The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 24, 2022, 02:44:37 PM

BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

India government blame Pakistan for every terror attack in India while Pakistan government blame India for unrest in Balochistan and Western province of the country. Its basically the hate due to which Indian government don't wanna see Pakistani players in action at IPL. Why would you give crore of INR to your enemy?

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 24, 2022, 02:44:37 PM

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BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

The reasons are twisted here, Pakistan players participated in the IPL during the initial tournament and when the Mumbai terror attack happened these sanctions came into place, if the Pakistan government was willing to weed out the terrorist i am sure there wont be any sanctions but they never took the responsibility of the attack when it was evident that the attack was carried out from Pakistan.

To say that the players are not included because they performed well is not the truth, Mumbai attack the aftermath is the reason for not allowing Pakistan players in the IPL and the cricket ties between India and Pakistan became standstill after that.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 24, 2022, 07:37:57 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 24, 2022, 07:27:10 AM

It could have been a better experience if both IPL and PSL allowed each other countries players but to be realistic, both countries do not need other country's players or support to make them successful. IPL is a successful league without any Pakistani players and similarly, PSL is a great league without the Indian players.

Pakistan and India both have produced great players both in the past and right now like Shaheen, kohli, Rizwan, Rohit and more. IPL is doing fine without Pakistan players but it will be more entertaining to see Pakistani players playing IPL. BCCI dominance in cricket can be seen from the fact that they never allowed there players to play any league. As long as politicians of both countries don't have a consent, we will continue to miss action cricket of both countries against each other.

BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

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Quote from: Minecache on February 24, 2022, 09:22:49 AM

Actually, I am ok with Pakistani players not playing in IPL and Indian players not playing in PSL.

But what I want to see is India versus Pakistan international matches on a regular basis which is not happening at all right now. I am much more interested to see these two teams play against each other rather than the players of both countries playing in their own respective League. And obviously, this is not going to happen as long as their political situation stays like this. Not having many teams playing cricket is also a reason for this. The BCCI is basically doing whatever they want right now.

Pakistan and India matches are always interesting as they both hate losing each other. The rivalry between India and Pakistan is far ahead of what we see in Ashes. Ashes is played on regular basis while last time India and Pakistan series was held decade ago. Sunil Gavaskar once said " there is more chance of snow in lahore(hot city of Pakistan)then India Pakistan series "

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@jostorres, I think BCCI is getting too cocky now. They are taking absolutely every type of advantage that they can get from this situation. And they are just throwing money on the faces of the people who are even trying to talk against them and that is making both sides very happy.

I think a League can be controlled by the BCCI because IPL is their tournament, and they have the right to decide what happens in it but the international matches or tournament should not be affected by BCCI in any way.

But we all know that BCCI is a big reason why India versus Pakistan matches are not being played right now. And obviously, the situation or should I say political situation between both the countries are playing a big part in it. I think we can see why, because India has a lot of politicians in the BCCI, and obviously the prime minister of Pakistan is Imran Khan…

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I think you are missing some important things here. Pakistan players are not allowed to play in IPL because of the political situation between both the two countries. As far as i know , the pakistan board will also not allow players to play in IPL.
And why would BBL ban West Indies ? They will never ban them as every league wants good international players to come and play the league. If leagues start banning international players, no one will be willing to watch tournaments with national players only.

With too much politics involved in cricket specially between Pakistan and India most chances we will have no solid and good policy in ICC for many things and with this all BCCI will take some good advantage as currently they are very strong and having upper hand with the help of money involved in cricket. As many times few Indian and Pakistan members already post that there is no solution between these two countries problems in next one decade so forget about any positive link and BCCI is taking full advantage of their relationship with ECB, CA and CSA because now they are ignoring many other countries as well which are not profitable for their marketing purpose.
Agree with this statement, BBL never ban any player or country as they need some good foreign players for their league, and it's helping them for having quality game in their league.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 24, 2022, 07:37:57 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 24, 2022, 07:27:10 AM

It could have been a better experience if both IPL and PSL allowed each other countries players but to be realistic, both countries do not need other country's players or support to make them successful. IPL is a successful league without any Pakistani players and similarly, PSL is a great league without the Indian players.

Pakistan and India both have produced great players both in the past and right now like Shaheen, kohli, Rizwan, Rohit and more. IPL is doing fine without Pakistan players but it will be more entertaining to see Pakistani players playing IPL. BCCI dominance in cricket can be seen from the fact that they never allowed there players to play any league. As long as politicians of both countries don't have a consent, we will continue to miss action cricket of both countries against each other.

Actually, I am ok with Pakistani players not playing in IPL and Indian players not playing in PSL.

But what I want to see is India versus Pakistan international matches on a regular basis which is not happening at all right now. I am much more interested to see these two teams play against each other rather than the players of both countries playing in their own respective League. And obviously, this is not going to happen as long as their political situation stays like this. Not having many teams playing cricket is also a reason for this. The BCCI is basically doing whatever they want right now.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 24, 2022, 07:27:10 AM

It could have been a better experience if both IPL and PSL allowed each other countries players but to be realistic, both countries do not need other country's players or support to make them successful. IPL is a successful league without any Pakistani players and similarly, PSL is a great league without the Indian players.

Pakistan and India both have produced great players both in the past and right now like Shaheen, kohli, Rizwan, Rohit and more. IPL is doing fine without Pakistan players but it will be more entertaining to see Pakistani players playing IPL. BCCI dominance in cricket can be seen from the fact that they never allowed there players to play any league. As long as politicians of both countries don't have a consent, we will continue to miss action cricket of both countries against each other.

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Quote from: jostorres on February 24, 2022, 03:50:42 AM

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I think you are missing some important things here. Pakistan players are not allowed to play in IPL because of the political situation between both the two countries. As far as i know , the pakistan board will also not allow players to play in IPL.

And why would BBL ban West Indies ? They will never ban them as every league wants good international players to come and play the league. If leagues start banning international players, no one will be willing to watch tournaments with national players only.

With too much politics involved in cricket specially between Pakistan and India most chances we will have no solid and good policy in ICC for many things and with this all BCCI will take some good advantage as currently they are very strong and having upper hand with the help of money involved in cricket. As many times few Indian and Pakistan members already post that there is no solution between these two countries problems in next one decade so forget about any positive link and BCCI is taking full advantage of their relationship with ECB, CA and CSA because now they are ignoring many other countries as well which are not profitable for their marketing purpose.

Agree with this statement, BBL never ban any player or country as they need some good foreign players for their league, and it's helping them for having quality game in their league.

It could have been a better experience if both IPL and PSL allowed each other countries players but to be realistic, both countries do not need other country's players or support to make them successful. IPL is a successful league without any Pakistani players and similarly, PSL is a great league without the Indian players.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on February 24, 2022, 01:31:55 AM

I think you are missing some important things here. Pakistan players are not allowed to play in IPL because of the political situation between both the two countries. As far as i know , the pakistan board will also not allow players to play in IPL.

And why would BBL ban West Indies ? They will never ban them as every league wants good international players to come and play the league. If leagues start banning international players, no one will be willing to watch tournaments with national players only.

With too much politics involved in cricket specially between Pakistan and India most chances we will have no solid and good policy in ICC for many things and with this all BCCI will take some good advantage as currently they are very strong and having upper hand with the help of money involved in cricket. As many times few Indian and Pakistan members already post that there is no solution between these two countries problems in next one decade so forget about any positive link and BCCI is taking full advantage of their relationship with ECB, CA and CSA because now they are ignoring many other countries as well which are not profitable for their marketing purpose.

Agree with this statement, BBL never ban any player or country as they need some good foreign players for their league, and it's helping them for having quality game in their league.

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Here you are right Big-3 is main problem in ICC and cricket's better future specially Indian are doing dirty politics after introduction of IPL and having huge funds in their pockets.

But here concern is not IPL, and we are not talking why they are not allowing their players for other leagues and now allowing Pakistani cricketers in their league here is concern these all boards need to do some worth with ICC for having better structure and other facilities in countries where we can do some good for this game and youths can join this as professional cricketer which is increase its popularity, and we will be able to have some more good and quality teams in this frame.

I think all boards have accepted the dominance of big 3 specially India. No board is not willing to lose his IPL share thats why no one is speaking against BCCI policies.
IPL aside, I do agree with you that all boards less big 3 must unite together to make icc powerful entity to safe guard there rights otherwise today Pakistani players are not in IPL, tomorrow BBL may ban WI players or so on. Only in presence of strong ICC, rights of small entities will be protected.

I think you are missing some important things here. Pakistan players are not allowed to play in IPL because of the political situation between both the two countries. As far as i know , the pakistan board will also not allow players to play in IPL.

And why would BBL ban West Indies ? They will never ban them as every league wants good international players to come and play the league. If leagues start banning international players, no one will be willing to watch tournaments with national players only.

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Quote from: stepwilli on February 23, 2022, 03:02:02 PM

This logic is not going to be acceptable for any Board even they are taking some good amount from IPL every player is surely going to accept national duty as a priority because they have this just because of their country and money is never been a priority for many players just very few can go with this logic but mostly still will prefer national team on this IPL because here they have just one or two seasons and the national team is surely having some good long time for them.

Hopefully, in near future, we will have some better laws about this because no board will give this acceptable even they are making some good money from IPL if we have any confrontation in this than most boards will try to ban their players from joining this IPL because with this it's going to be a bad impact on this game. Sometime back same issue happened in soccer then FIFA gives a ruling in favour of countries, so I feel most chances this will happen here as well.

I would say majority of players are after money once they get recognition by playing international cricket from there country. I do agree with you that there must be some laws for every player regarding his availability for national team and playing leagues. The one whose priority is league must not play for national side from the day very beginning and we will see which league will include such player.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 22, 2022, 10:19:42 PM

Cricket is just another profession. The top players receive millions of USD every year from the IPL. They get less than 5% of that amount from the national cricket boards. So why should anyone be forced to play international matches against their wishes? If the national board wants that player to prioritize the international duties, then they should match the fees that is being offered by the IPL franchises. On one hand they want the players to play for such a pittance and on the other they want them to be available all the time. This will only result in players retiring from international cricket.

This logic is not going to be acceptable for any Board even they are taking some good amount from IPL every player is surely going to accept national duty as a priority because they have this just because of their country and money is never been a priority for many players just very few can go with this logic but mostly still will prefer national team on this IPL because here they have just one or two seasons and the national team is surely having some good long time for them.

Hopefully, in near future, we will have some better laws about this because no board will give this acceptable even they are making some good money from IPL if we have any confrontation in this than most boards will try to ban their players from joining this IPL because with this it's going to be a bad impact on this game. Sometime back same issue happened in soccer then FIFA gives a ruling in favour of countries, so I feel most chances this will happen here as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 22, 2022, 10:19:42 PM

Quote from: teddybear on February 22, 2022, 01:24:23 AM

Agree to that but IPL is "Indian Premier league". Every player SHOULD give priority to their national team if selected. Irrespective of how much money they make in the IPL. It's not great news for IPL fans as they'll miss some top cricketers but that in turn could give a few budding Indian talent some chance to shine. Could be a win win scenario.

Disagree with this. Cricket is just another profession. The top players receive millions of USD every year from the IPL. They get less than 5% of that amount from the national cricket boards. So why should anyone be forced to play international matches against their wishes? If the national board wants that player to prioritize the international duties, then they should match the fees that is being offered by the IPL franchises. On one hand they want the players to play for such a pittance and on the other they want them to be available all the time. This will only result in players retiring from international cricket.

But players need to know that if they did not get recognized by playing international cricket then IPL or any other leagues would not have invited them to play. And most of the reason why players want to play other leagues instead of international cricket is that obviously, the money is really great. And this is absolutely true that if the cricket boards want the player to play for them and be available at any time they need to give them a raise or else players will always want to play the league matches and tournaments more than the international ones.

Quote from: Juggy777 on February 22, 2022, 10:41:08 PM

I agree with @Sithara007 the player’s salary in international cricket is very less, but IPL helps them to make money and secure their future plus they also have a short career, hence I see nothing wrong if they chose to play in IPL over international cricket. Also if they’re forced to retire to play in IPL then it’s indeed sad, but I’ll support their decision as they have every right to choose how they wish to earn for their livelihood.

A player has every right to choose how he wants to go ahead in his career path but each and every player has a duty to their own country. But, I also think that love happens both ways. If the cricket boards want the players to play for them and be available at any time and listen to what they say I think they also need to give the players more money and something that is similar to what they are given in the leagues.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 22, 2022, 10:19:42 PM

Disagree with this. Cricket is just another profession. The top players receive millions of USD every year from the IPL. They get less than 5% of that amount from the national cricket boards. So why should anyone be forced to play international matches against their wishes? If the national board wants that player to prioritize the international duties, then they should match the fees that is being offered by the IPL franchises. On one hand they want the players to play for such a pittance and on the other they want them to be available all the time. This will only result in players retiring from international cricket.

If we go with this logic then players from there start should not opt to play for there country national team rather try to get inducted in IPL straight away. But we all agree that IPL only include top players from national teams not from domestic teams. Its hypocrisy that player is willing to obey all orders of board to play international cricket but once he become star player he is no more willing to follow board instructions.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 22, 2022, 10:19:42 PM

Quote from: teddybear on February 22, 2022, 01:24:23 AM

Agree to that but IPL is "Indian Premier league". Every player SHOULD give priority to their national team if selected. Irrespective of how much money they make in the IPL. It's not great news for IPL fans as they'll miss some top cricketers but that in turn could give a few budding Indian talent some chance to shine. Could be a win win scenario.

Disagree with this. Cricket is just another profession. The top players receive millions of USD every year from the IPL. They get less than 5% of that amount from the national cricket boards. So why should anyone be forced to play international matches against their wishes? If the national board wants that player to prioritize the international duties, then they should match the fees that is being offered by the IPL franchises. On one hand they want the players to play for such a pittance and on the other they want them to be available all the time. This will only result in players retiring from international cricket.

I agree with @Sithara007 the player’s salary in international cricket is very less, but IPL helps them to make money and secure their future plus they also have a short career, hence I see nothing wrong if they chose to play in IPL over international cricket. Also if they’re forced to retire to play in IPL then it’s indeed sad, but I’ll support their decision as they have every right to choose how they wish to earn for their livelihood.

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