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Quote from: Theones on December 19, 2021, 02:46:53 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2021, 02:21:14 AM

I don't think anything going to change in the period of 6 months. Also note that Pakistan will be playing a series with Australia early next year 2022, which will further boost their skills and confidence.
I am thinking in a way that when Pakistan will be winning the series with Australians, then beating West Indies would not be any diffcult Wink

Australia won't be touring Pakistan that's for sure. The only way Pakistan can play a home series against Aus is at UAE. UAE conditions are suitable for Pakistan, they can perform better in UAE then at home. Australia won't be as easy to play like WestIndies. Australia also recently beaten Pakistan in T20 WC.

Well, there is no such announcement of Australians not coming to Pakistan in 2022. I think Pakistan should not play in UAE and should insist them to visit our country.
I am not sure why they are afraid to lose with Pakistan when they are already playing well against England.

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There is an interesting news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan as NZ confirmed that they will tour twice in 2022-23 to make up for the recent cancelled tour to Pakistan. Its good news for PCB but they must ask NZ not to do anything silly like they did last time. Since it will greatly destroy there repute.

New Zealand to tour Pakistan twice in 2022-23 to make up for postponed series.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 19, 2021, 02:21:14 AM

I don't think anything going to change in the period of 6 months. Also note that Pakistan will be playing a series with Australia early next year 2022, which will further boost their skills and confidence.
I am thinking in a way that when Pakistan will be winning the series with Australians, then beating West Indies would not be any diffcult Wink

Australia won't be touring Pakistan that's for sure. The only way Pakistan can play a home series against Aus is at UAE. UAE conditions are suitable for Pakistan, they can perform better in UAE then at home. Australia won't be as easy to play like WestIndies. Australia also recently beaten Pakistan in T20 WC.

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Quote from: Theones on December 18, 2021, 10:19:48 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 17, 2021, 06:16:54 AM

What other topics you want on this thread other than cricket. Mind it , it is a cricket discussion thread and therefore you can only discuss about cricket here. For other games and topics you need to write in the respective threads.

Yeah, It's been unfortunate to postpone the series to June 2022. Pakistan was in great form and they would have wanted to whitewash the ODI series too but now they have to wait another six months to celebrate the ODI wash white.

Cricket is an unpredictable game, you can't say WI will be as weak as they are till Jun 2022 or Pakistan will be as strong as they are now till Jun 2022. If WI can call back there players that are playing leagues worldwide by Jun 2022 the outcome of series will be different. Don't celebrate until you win.

I don't think anything going to change in the period of 6 months. Also note that Pakistan will be playing a series with Australia early next year 2022, which will further boost their skills and confidence.
I am thinking in a way that when Pakistan will be winning the series with Australians, then beating West Indies would not be any diffcult Wink

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 18, 2021, 04:40:54 PM

West Indies is competitive only in the T20 format and now they are not producing the talents that they used to considering how they performed badly during the last T20 World Cup and that is continuing in the current series against Pakistan, who reached the finals. Pakistan is a really strong team and there is no way West Indies will dominate Pakistan.

Even in T20 format, West Indies have performed poorly over the years. They have some of the best players in this format, but that hasn't translated to too many wins for the national team in recent times. Personally I believe that the team with the best balance will perform the best in T20, and not the team with the best players. And that is why in T20, teams like Australia and Pakistan are much superior to West Indies. And for now, you can forget about West Indies defeating Pakistan while playing under sub-continental conditions.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on December 18, 2021, 01:05:44 PM

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The assumption is based on WestIndies performance for last 3 to 4 years. There are bright chances that Pakistan will win the series. WestIndies first priority should be to avoid whitewash at every cost. A win can surely boost there confidence. Its so heartbreaking to see WestIndies team in such down situation.

West Indies is competitive only in the T20 format and now they are not producing the talents that they used to considering how they performed badly during the last T20 World Cup and that is continuing in the current series against Pakistan, who reached the finals. Pakistan is a really strong team and there is no way West Indies will dominate Pakistan.

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Quote from: Theones on December 18, 2021, 10:19:48 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 17, 2021, 06:16:54 AM

What other topics you want on this thread other than cricket. Mind it , it is a cricket discussion thread and therefore you can only discuss about cricket here. For other games and topics you need to write in the respective threads.

Yeah, It's been unfortunate to postpone the series to June 2022. Pakistan was in great form and they would have wanted to whitewash the ODI series too but now they have to wait another six months to celebrate the ODI wash white.

Cricket is an unpredictable game, you can't say WI will be as weak as they are till Jun 2022 or Pakistan will be as strong as they are now till Jun 2022. If WI can call back there players that are playing leagues worldwide by Jun 2022 the outcome of series will be different. Don't celebrate until you win.

The assumption is based on WestIndies performance for last 3 to 4 years. There are bright chances that Pakistan will win the series. WestIndies first priority should be to avoid whitewash at every cost. A win can surely boost there confidence. Its so heartbreaking to see WestIndies team in such down situation.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 17, 2021, 06:16:54 AM

What other topics you want on this thread other than cricket. Mind it , it is a cricket discussion thread and therefore you can only discuss about cricket here. For other games and topics you need to write in the respective threads.

Yeah, It's been unfortunate to postpone the series to June 2022. Pakistan was in great form and they would have wanted to whitewash the ODI series too but now they have to wait another six months to celebrate the ODI wash white.

Cricket is an unpredictable game, you can't say WI will be as weak as they are till Jun 2022 or Pakistan will be as strong as they are now till Jun 2022. If WI can call back there players that are playing leagues worldwide by Jun 2022 the outcome of series will be different. Don't celebrate until you win.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 17, 2021, 09:36:07 PM

Depends. Being a cricket fan, I would like cricket to become more popular. For that inclusion in Olympics is a must, because it is the grandest sporting event in the planet. Also, many of the countries allocate monetary grants to sports only if they are included in the Olympic Games. Nowadays, the ICC has also cut down the number of teams participating in world cup to just 10. I don't even want to call a ten-team tournament as "World Cup". Even for the Kabaddi world cup, we have more number of participants.

That's because too many associate teams takes level of cricket too low. There are only 5 to 6 countries that have good cricket team rest of countries have very weak teams. See Oman, Scotland and Namibia teams in last T20 WC, they have too low level of cricket teams.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 15, 2021, 04:29:03 AM

By the way do we need cricket to include in the Olympics ? The only benefit I see is that it will reach to a broader audience and some new countries might show interest in playing this game.

So who is the next captain of Indian T20 cricket team who have the courage to lead the team

Depends. Being a cricket fan, I would like cricket to become more popular. For that inclusion in Olympics is a must, because it is the grandest sporting event in the planet. Also, many of the countries allocate monetary grants to sports only if they are included in the Olympic Games. Nowadays, the ICC has also cut down the number of teams participating in world cup to just 10. I don't even want to call a ten-team tournament as "World Cup". Even for the Kabaddi world cup, we have more number of participants.

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Quote from: og kush420 on December 16, 2021, 11:26:09 AM

We need some other topic at this thread. Enough with cricket. Bad news for Pakistan cricket fans as Pakistan and Windies ODI series has been postponed because of too many covid19 cases in Windies team. Surprisingly there is no case in Pakistan team. This will hurt pcb, as they are trying to bring back international cricket in the country.

What other topics you want on this thread other than cricket. Mind it , it is a cricket discussion thread and therefore you can only discuss about cricket here. For other games and topics you need to write in the respective threads.

Yeah, It's been unfortunate to postpone the series to June 2022. Pakistan was in great form and they would have wanted to whitewash the ODI series too but now they have to wait another six months to celebrate the ODI wash white.

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We need some other topic at this thread. Enough with cricket. Bad news for Pakistan cricket fans as Pakistan and Windies ODI series has been postponed because of too many covid19 cases in Windies team. Surprisingly there is no case in Pakistan team. This will hurt pcb, as they are trying to bring back international cricket in the country.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 15, 2021, 04:29:03 AM

By the way do we need cricket to include in the Olympics ? The only benefit I see is that it will reach to a broader audience and some new countries might show interest in playing this game.

So who is the next captain of Indian T20 cricket team who have the courage to lead the team

Of course we need to see cricket in Olympics, it will be good for cricket. There are only 10 test playing countries right now, performance of SL, WI and Bangladesh is very much down. If we have more teams then pool of strong teams will increase and we can see some quality cricket all over the year. IMO big-3 are not in favor of more nations to join in.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on December 15, 2021, 04:29:03 AM

By the way do we need cricket to include in the Olympics ? The only benefit I see is that it will reach to a broader audience and some new countries might show interest in playing this game.

So who is the next captain of Indian T20 cricket team who have the courage to lead the team

Olympics has its own parameters for every game. See football, I think players up to age 25 years are allowed to played in olympics that's why Brazil has only won 2 gold medal so far. If cricket goes there then same filters may be applied to it also. Dont expect same squads will be playing there.

Rohit Sharma is already named as Indian T20 captain. Under his captaincy India played recent T20 series againest NZ.

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Quote from: galambo on December 15, 2021, 04:13:43 AM

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@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.

I do agree with you there is no point in discussing cricket and Olympics. Cricket is not going in Olympics for at-least next 10 to 15 years (case closed).

Meanwhile Virat Kohli at press conference on Wednesday said, I was informed about my removal as ODI captain just one-and-a-half hours before the selection of squad for South Africa. (source)

He also told that he himself resigned from T20 captaincy.

By the way do we need cricket to include in the Olympics ? The only benefit I see is that it will reach to a broader audience and some new countries might show interest in playing this game.

So who is the next captain of Indian T20 cricket team who have the courage to lead the team

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 14, 2021, 07:52:46 AM

@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.

I do agree with you there is no point in discussing cricket and Olympics. Cricket is not going in Olympics for at-least next 10 to 15 years (case closed).

Meanwhile Virat Kohli at press conference on Wednesday said, I was informed about my removal as ODI captain just one-and-a-half hours before the selection of squad for South Africa. (source)

He also told that he himself resigned from T20 captaincy.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 14, 2021, 07:52:46 AM

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on December 12, 2021, 02:00:44 PM

I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

From what I heard, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was interested in including cricket as one of the disciplines. If number of countries is the sole concern, then sports such as Baseball and Softball will never be included. It was the ICC which rejected the proposal from the IOC. They put forward insane and unrealistic conditions for the inclusion and even then the IOC wanted to negotiate with them. At at this point, the ICC president (N Srinivasan) explicitly stated that they are not interested in Olympic inclusion.

@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.

Yes there is no authentic and official update that any thing has been done towards it and I dont see cricket getting included in olympics for atleast 10 years. ICC or BCCI or any other cricket board around the world is not looking interested towards this. It is far away before that much more countries need to playing cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 13, 2021, 10:50:12 PM

Quote from: mm2543363580 on December 12, 2021, 02:00:44 PM

I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

From what I heard, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was interested in including cricket as one of the disciplines. If number of countries is the sole concern, then sports such as Baseball and Softball will never be included. It was the ICC which rejected the proposal from the IOC. They put forward insane and unrealistic conditions for the inclusion and even then the IOC wanted to negotiate with them. At at this point, the ICC president (N Srinivasan) explicitly stated that they are not interested in Olympic inclusion.

@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on December 12, 2021, 02:00:44 PM

I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

From what I heard, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was interested in including cricket as one of the disciplines. If number of countries is the sole concern, then sports such as Baseball and Softball will never be included. It was the ICC which rejected the proposal from the IOC. They put forward insane and unrealistic conditions for the inclusion and even then the IOC wanted to negotiate with them. At at this point, the ICC president (N Srinivasan) explicitly stated that they are not interested in Olympic inclusion.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 12, 2021, 06:36:41 AM

Well.. it has been the other way around. During the Srinivasan/Pawar era, it was the BCCI which sabotaged all the globalization plans laid by the previous ICC president Jagmohan Dalmiya. If Dalmiya had his way, then cricket would have been an Olympic sports by 2012, or latest by 2016. The cartel sabotaged it, and now the earliest date possible is 2032. Meanwhile, other sports have gone ahead with their own globalization programs, and as a result minor sports like Rugby, Kabaddi and Baseball are now played in more countries when compared to cricket (numbers for cricket are inflated, as most of the teams are completely made up of foreigners).

I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

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