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Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2020, 09:45:03 AM

I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore,

I don't have much examples to share right now but see the most recent statements from both the teams fans before they met in the world cup match in 2019.
Both teams can afford to lose the WC final but can't afford to lose against each other.

Source: https://www.dw.com/en/cricket-world-cup-why-the-india-pakistan-contest-is-more-than-just-sport/a-49227786

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 17, 2020, 01:32:14 AM

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Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.

The government is trying hard to fool people as cricket is the major sports in India they want to show how patriotic they are by banning any series between them in cricket and the rest of the sports are not having that much fan following even though hockey is the national game you hardly find any fans in the stadium.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 17, 2020, 09:17:39 AM

The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.

Far from the truth now, India is much better team and it will be squash match if they play but in the past Pakistan had the best players in the world and it was competitive.

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There should be a balance between pride and commercialization of sports. Franchise league like IPL puts money before anything else. There is a slight taste of regionalization with different teams named after cities and they playing their home matches, 50% of games in the league in home ground. But there's no other rules that makes the team look like regional, no local players rule or no locals in board members. When it comes to national games, there's always a sense of pride in the general public. It's really rare to see a citizen of a playing nation not supporting his/her team in a national game.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2020, 09:45:03 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 17, 2020, 09:17:39 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2020, 01:42:22 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 17, 2020, 01:32:14 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 16, 2020, 05:03:40 AM

It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.

Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

Also i think there is more restrictions from the India who are not willing to play with Pakistan as compare to the Pakistani not willing to play with Indians.
The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.

I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore, i have witnessed this in Champions Trophy tournament. Every one was like Yeah they played well and Indian team was shit so they deserve to lose the game.. there was no outrage whatsoever like it used to be in the past.

Right now I agree with @JSRAW win or lost is nothing problem its all about political issue and Cricket is really big even here in Sub-Continent India taking some good profit from this all and now they understand if they play with Pakistan then they are going to have really big profit as well so they don't like this all IPL no need any special thing for more money as they already have enough and if PSL is going to be on air in India then surely its going to give them very big profit so its related to this all not win or lost.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 17, 2020, 09:17:39 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2020, 01:42:22 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 17, 2020, 01:32:14 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 16, 2020, 05:03:40 AM

It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.

Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

Also i think there is more restrictions from the India who are not willing to play with Pakistan as compare to the Pakistani not willing to play with Indians.
The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.

I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore, i have witnessed this in Champions Trophy tournament. Every one was like Yeah they played well and Indian team was shit so they deserve to lose the game.. there was no outrage whatsoever like it used to be in the past.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 17, 2020, 01:42:22 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 17, 2020, 01:32:14 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 16, 2020, 05:03:40 AM

It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.

Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

Also i think there is more restrictions from the India who are not willing to play with Pakistan as compare to the Pakistani not willing to play with Indians.
The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 17, 2020, 01:32:14 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 16, 2020, 05:03:40 AM

It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.

Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 16, 2020, 05:03:40 AM

It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 15, 2020, 06:02:31 PM

Even i watched the PSL highlights and i have seen some wonderful catches and i guess the level of fielding is higher in PSL which i did not expect considering Pakistan team is not the best fielding unit in international matches.

The catches were good but looking at the highlights you will not understand the entire picture, even if you look at the IPL highlights you will see many magnificent saves in the boundary and spectacular catches but if you watch the match you will see many dropped catches as well.

Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 15, 2020, 06:02:31 PM

So it is a tit for tat competition Grin

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It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 15, 2020, 11:57:51 AM

You are right about this and also IPL was not shown in any TV channels of Pakistan as well. Although there may be political tensions between the two countries but i think they should show all cricket tournaments which the public wants to see.

India is a much larger market for cricket, when compared to Pakistan. So obviously if there is any ban, it is going to have a larger impact on the PCB rather than the BCCI. Even for foreign franchise T20 leagues such as BBL and CPL, a large chunk of the audience and the revenues come from the Indian market. Pakistan's population is less than 1/8th of that of India and the revenues are proportionately smaller.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 15, 2020, 08:49:16 AM

Espn-Cricinfo (Indian edition) has scant coverage of PSL. I guess Sithara007 is from India and that is why she is not noticing the updates on PSL. I am also using the Indian edition, and I would also confirm the same. And here in India, none of the Sports channels are covering PSL (DSports had the TV rights, but they were prohibited from showing PSL by the government). Yesterday I watched the Qalandars vs Zalmi match live on YouTube. But the quality was really bad.

Seriously the government prohibit sports to be broadcasted and to be frank it is the lamest thing that could happen Shocked

. I understand that both these countries are not playing because of political reasons but to ban telecasting sporting events is a bit too much in my opinion.

Even i watched the PSL highlights and i have seen some wonderful catches and i guess the level of fielding is higher in PSL which i did not expect considering Pakistan team is not the best fielding unit in international matches.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 15, 2020, 11:57:51 AM

You are right about this and also IPL was not shown in any TV channels of Pakistan as well. Although there may be political tensions between the two countries but i think they should show all cricket tournaments which the public wants to see.

So it is a tit for tat competition Grin

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 15, 2020, 03:39:07 AM

As far as i see, he did not want to see the update of PSL, he only wanted to point out that PSL tournament is not much covered in cricinfo so i told him that this is not the case and i guided him that its depends upon which region he has selected in cricinfo.

Espn-Cricinfo (Indian edition) has scant coverage of PSL. I guess Sithara007 is from India and that is why she is not noticing the updates on PSL. I am also using the Indian edition, and I would also confirm the same. And here in India, none of the Sports channels are covering PSL (DSports had the TV rights, but they were prohibited from showing PSL by the government). Yesterday I watched the Qalandars vs Zalmi match live on YouTube. But the quality was really bad.

You are right about this and also IPL was not shown in any TV channels of Pakistan as well. Although there may be political tensions between the two countries but i think they should show all cricket tournaments which the public wants to see.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 15, 2020, 03:39:07 AM

As far as i see, he did not want to see the update of PSL, he only wanted to point out that PSL tournament is not much covered in cricinfo so i told him that this is not the case and i guided him that its depends upon which region he has selected in cricinfo.

Espn-Cricinfo (Indian edition) has scant coverage of PSL. I guess Sithara007 is from India and that is why she is not noticing the updates on PSL. I am also using the Indian edition, and I would also confirm the same. And here in India, none of the Sports channels are covering PSL (DSports had the TV rights, but they were prohibited from showing PSL by the government). Yesterday I watched the Qalandars vs Zalmi match live on YouTube. But the quality was really bad.

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I am not sure if you checked the correct site because if you open espncricinfo.com, the PSL is covered by cricinfo as all the other big tournaments are covered.

I was not talking about the scorecard. There was very little coverage in terms of articles and newsfeed. In the main section, there was no mention about PSL. When I saw the post here regarding the resumption of PSL, I went to cricinfo to confirm it. It took some time to find an article related to this news. Even now, there is no mention about PSL in the "News Headlines" section or the main page.

Cricinfo give the data according to your region and preferences. I don't know from which country do you belong but according to my location, the PK Edition is filled will all PSL news and headlines.

You can see or select your region as below.

@Sithara007 click on the all button on their homepage and then you’ll be able to see PSL updates, also it’s possible that they have curated the newsfeed depending on where you’re from. @UmerIdrees yea it seems that I understood it right, and another way for him to access latest PSL news on cricbuzz would be is to use VPN, and inside VPN select country as Pakistan.

As far as i see, he did not want to see the update of PSL, he only wanted to point out that PSL tournament is not much covered in cricinfo so i told him that this is not the case and i guided him that its depends upon which region he has selected in cricinfo.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 14, 2020, 03:43:35 AM

I am not sure if you checked the correct site because if you open espncricinfo.com, the PSL is covered by cricinfo as all the other big tournaments are covered.

I was not talking about the scorecard. There was very little coverage in terms of articles and newsfeed. In the main section, there was no mention about PSL. When I saw the post here regarding the resumption of PSL, I went to cricinfo to confirm it. It took some time to find an article related to this news. Even now, there is no mention about PSL in the "News Headlines" section or the main page.

Cricinfo give the data according to your region and preferences. I don't know from which country do you belong but according to my location, the PK Edition is filled will all PSL news and headlines.

You can see or select your region as below.

@Sithara007 click on the all button on their homepage and then you’ll be able to see PSL updates, also it’s possible that they have curated the newsfeed depending on where you’re from. @UmerIdrees yea it seems that I understood it right, and another way for him to access latest PSL news on cricbuzz would be is to use VPN, and inside VPN select country as Pakistan.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 14, 2020, 03:43:35 AM

I am not sure if you checked the correct site because if you open espncricinfo.com, the PSL is covered by cricinfo as all the other big tournaments are covered.

I was not talking about the scorecard. There was very little coverage in terms of articles and newsfeed. In the main section, there was no mention about PSL. When I saw the post here regarding the resumption of PSL, I went to cricinfo to confirm it. It took some time to find an article related to this news. Even now, there is no mention about PSL in the "News Headlines" section or the main page.

Cricinfo give the data according to your region and preferences. I don't know from which country do you belong but according to my location, the PK Edition is filled will all PSL news and headlines.

You can see or select your region as below.

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It was a surprising decision by the PCB, to resume this season's PSL after 8 months. I don't think that it will result in any financial benefit to the PCB, but they may be obliged to complete the schedule due to contract obligations with their TV partners and sponsors. Not much coverage about these matches in the media, BTW.

It is good to see that PCB is able to resume the tournament after 8 months and it might be because of media and sponsors obligation but what i always wonder is that why they are not having the same exposure as BCCI when it comes to TV partnerships and sponsors and PSL might make some changes in the future as it might attract sponsors if the competition is good.

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It was a surprising decision by the PCB, to resume this season's PSL after 8 months. I don't think that it will result in any financial benefit to the PCB, but they may be obliged to complete the schedule due to contract obligations with their TV partners and sponsors. Not much coverage about these matches in the media, BTW. I checked espncricinfo, and they have this news relegated to a small corner of their website.

I am not sure if you checked the correct site because if you open espncricinfo.com, the PSL is covered by cricinfo as all the other big tournaments are covered.

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