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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 25, 2020, 11:04:14 AM

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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

Just to be clear, no one promoting Sand paper kinda stuff. They are basically exploring the idea of artificial substance instead of saliva,so that they can maintain the shine on ball. Red ball only that's means only test cricket.

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Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me. Grin

Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.

I think this is going too far now with this virus, there is a solution to this and the players can use with a spray bottle which is like using saliva. The strange thing is that nothing like this happened in 2009 with the swine flu, I know this corona virus is worse but still we never saw any changes to anything so I think this is going too far in my opinion.

I shouldn't make fun of this situation but it seems very funny scenario. Umpire carrying the spray bottle with them, including couple of fielders too. (I have no idea about spray bottle thingy)

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Yeah it is.

The worst hit state are Maharashtra and Delhi. They are so densely populated that it is becoming very hard for the government to implement lockdown. 80 percent of the population is still. O operAting with the government.

Most of the cases in Maharashtra are concentrated within Mumbai, but there are huge number of cases in Pune/Thane as well. It is not that surprising. Mumbai is an island (now converted to a peninsula), and the population density is the highest for any major city in India. The largest slum in the world (Dharavi) is located here. So it is not very surprising that the pandemic is spreading fast in Mumbai.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 25, 2020, 01:50:38 PM

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 25, 2020, 11:04:14 AM

~snip

~Edited out~

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

Just to be clear, no one promoting Sand paper kinda stuff. They are basically exploring the idea of artificial substance instead of saliva,so that they can maintain the shine on ball. Red ball only that's means only test cricket.

~snip
Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me. Grin

Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.

I think this is going too far now with this virus, there is a solution to this and the players can use with a spray bottle which is like using saliva. The strange thing is that nothing like this happened in 2009 with the swine flu, I know this corona virus is worse but still we never saw any changes to anything so I think this is going too far in my opinion.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 25, 2020, 01:48:04 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 25, 2020, 11:04:14 AM

~snip

~Edited out~

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

Just to be clear, no one promoting Sand paper kinda stuff. They are basically exploring the idea of artificial substance instead of saliva,so that they can maintain the shine on ball. Red ball only that's means only test cricket.

~snip
Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me. Grin

Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.

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Interesting news or call it irony but cricket authorities aka ICC might legalise ball- tampering due to covid-19 (no saliva) @Vishnu you might enjoy this. Using phone so not sure if this article is new or 1 month old.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me. Grin

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:03:15 AM

As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

You can check my previous posts and you will find that I have always favored the usage of sandpaper over saliva (even before the COVID 19 epidemic). Both of them have almost the same impact on the swing of the cricket ball, and I don't understand the reason why one is permitted while the other is not. This is also a very unhygienic practice which needs to be done away with. Grin

Both are helpful for swing but..

1. Saliva is for smoothing one side of ball and let other side get rough naturally as game proceeds.
2. Sandpaper or other foreign object is used by players for disturbing one side of roughness in short period of time, intentionally.

That's why one is legit and other is not.

Adding to previous comments
Interesting news or call it irony but cricket authorities aka ICC might legalise ball- tampering due to covid-19 (no saliva) @Vishnu you might enjoy this. Using phone so not sure if this article is new or 1 month old.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:03:15 AM

Quote from: eaLiTy on April 24, 2020, 02:07:35 PM

As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

You can check my previous posts and you will find that I have always favored the usage of sandpaper over saliva (even before the COVID 19 epidemic). Both of them have almost the same impact on the swing of the cricket ball, and I don't understand the reason why one is permitted while the other is not. This is also a very unhygienic practice which needs to be done away with. Grin

Both are helpful for swing but..

1. Saliva is for smoothing one side of ball and let other side get rough naturally as game proceeds.
2. Sandpaper or other foreign object is used by players for disturbing one side of roughness in short period of time, intentionally.

That's why one is legit and other is not.

Adding to previous comments
Interesting news or call it irony but cricket authorities aka ICC might legalise ball- tampering due to covid-19 (no saliva) @Vishnu you might enjoy this. Using phone so not sure if this article is new or 1 month old.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 21, 2020, 02:48:49 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on April 20, 2020, 01:23:00 PM

Still its too early to say IMO. We can't say for sure that we are dealing very well since we haven't yet went through the stage like these countries already had.

What do you mean? The figures state everything. India is in a much, much better position when compared to countries like the US and UK currently though their health-care system is pretty poor thanks to the lockdown. However, I feel like the lockdown was implemented in a poor manner.

Even i would say that it is early to say about the situation, there are reports from Kerala that patients are not showing any symptoms for 28 days and the Kerala government implemented 28 day quarantine while the rest of the places go with 14 day quarantine and that is a worrying aspect.
When you compare US they tested around 49 lakh people and till now in India there were less than 5.5 lakh people tested and from that itself we can understand the difference in the amount of patients detected.
With lock down Modi likes a different approach as he likes to surprise everyone, remember the currency ban and that was the same with a country wide lock down and now the poor are suffering and the government have no idea on how to proceed further rather than extending the lock down.

This is really sad part of here in developing countries if government taking bills and other taxes then they have all data and if time for giving and incentive to poor's then they have many complications and their data not helping them correctly so lower class suffering very badly in this lock down they have no food no work and no good news most chances this lock down will have some soft policies in first week of June.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 21, 2020, 02:48:49 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on April 20, 2020, 01:23:00 PM

Still its too early to say IMO. We can't say for sure that we are dealing very well since we haven't yet went through the stage like these countries already had.

What do you mean? The figures state everything. India is in a much, much better position when compared to countries like the US and UK currently though their health-care system is pretty poor thanks to the lockdown. However, I feel like the lockdown was implemented in a poor manner.

Even i would say that it is early to say about the situation, there are reports from Kerala that patients are not showing any symptoms for 28 days and the Kerala government implemented 28 day quarantine while the rest of the places go with 14 day quarantine and that is a worrying aspect.
When you compare US they tested around 49 lakh people and till now in India there were less than 5.5 lakh people tested and from that itself we can understand the difference in the amount of patients detected.
With lock down Modi likes a different approach as he likes to surprise everyone, remember the currency ban and that was the same with a country wide lock down and now the poor are suffering and the government have no idea on how to proceed further rather than extending the lock down.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on April 24, 2020, 10:38:46 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:03:15 AM

As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

You can check my previous posts and you will find that I have always favored the usage of sandpaper over saliva (even before the COVID 19 epidemic). Both of them have almost the same impact on the swing of the cricket ball, and I don't understand the reason why one is permitted while the other is not. This is also a very unhygienic practice which needs to be done away with. Grin

Both are helpful for swing but..

1. Saliva is for smoothing one side of ball and let other side get rough naturally as game proceeds.
2. Sandpaper or other foreign object is used by players for disturbing one side of roughness in short period of time, intentionally.

That's why one is legit and other is not.

There are two more ways to tamper the ball other than using a sand paper. Scratching one side of the ball using nails and the other one is excessively rubbing one side with a hand towel.

Now its very difficult time for ICC and teams as what and how to use this all better way is rub one side with hand towel better option instead of using any other illegal way which create more controversy in future for few teams.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:03:15 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 08:03:15 AM

As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

You can check my previous posts and you will find that I have always favored the usage of sandpaper over saliva (even before the COVID 19 epidemic). Both of them have almost the same impact on the swing of the cricket ball, and I don't understand the reason why one is permitted while the other is not. This is also a very unhygienic practice which needs to be done away with. Grin

Both are helpful for swing but..

1. Saliva is for smoothing one side of ball and let other side get rough naturally as game proceeds.
2. Sandpaper or other foreign object is used by players for disturbing one side of roughness in short period of time, intentionally.

That's why one is legit and other is not.

There are two more ways to tamper the ball other than using a sand paper. Scratching one side of the ball using nails and the other one is excessively rubbing one side with a hand towel.

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As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

You can check my previous posts and you will find that I have always favored the usage of sandpaper over saliva (even before the COVID 19 epidemic). Both of them have almost the same impact on the swing of the cricket ball, and I don't understand the reason why one is permitted while the other is not. This is also a very unhygienic practice which needs to be done away with. Grin

Both are helpful for swing but..

1. Saliva is for smoothing one side of ball and let other side get rough naturally as game proceeds.
2. Sandpaper or other foreign object is used by players for disturbing one side of roughness in short period of time, intentionally.

That's why one is legit and other is not.

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As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

You can check my previous posts and you will find that I have always favored the usage of sandpaper over saliva (even before the COVID 19 epidemic). Both of them have almost the same impact on the swing of the cricket ball, and I don't understand the reason why one is permitted while the other is not. This is also a very unhygienic practice which needs to be done away with. Grin

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