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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 06, 2021, 07:00:04 AM

Does Indian tourist destinations which you mentioned like Shillong, Chail etc have international stadium already built there ? If they already have the stadiums there, then they should host the international matches there.
As far as Pakistani cricket stadium is concerned, its newly built and i am hopeful we may see some PSL matches there in 2022.

Shillong used to be the capital of undivided Assam. But once Meghalaya was separated from Assam, it lost its multicultural image. Nowadays ethnic clashes are very common in that city and the locals are not very fond of outsiders residing there. They even prevented a proposed railway line, saying that it will cause outsiders migrating to Shillong. And you can assume what will be their reaction, if there is a proposal to upgrade the Shillong cricket stadium.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 06, 2021, 07:00:04 AM

Does Indian tourist destinations which you mentioned like Shillong, Chail etc have international stadium already built there ? If they already have the stadiums there, then they should host the international matches there.
As far as Pakistani cricket stadium is concerned, its newly built and i am hopeful we may see some PSL matches there in 2022.

If I am not wrong, Chail do have a cricket stadium which is being used for first class matches. The ground has a long history, having established by the Maharajah of Patiala in 1893. It is regarded as the highest cricket ground in the world with first class status (2,444 meters above sea level). The scenery is really beautiful, surrounded by pine and deodar forests. The boundaries are a bit small for my liking though.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 06, 2021, 02:48:59 AM

Even in India, there were proposals to develop the existing cricket stadiums in tourist destinations such as Shillong, Chail, Darjeeling, Imphal, Port Blair.etc. But due to one reason or other, none of the proposals made much movement (perhaps with the exception of Dharamshala in HP and Krishnagiri in Wynad). In particular I would like to see a few IPL matches staged in Shillong, because it is such a beautiful city.

Does Indian tourist destinations which you mentioned like Shillong, Chail etc have international stadium already built there ? If they already have the stadiums there, then they should host the international matches there.
As far as Pakistani cricket stadium is concerned, its newly built and i am hopeful we may see some PSL matches there in 2022.

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Quote from: coin_1122 on February 06, 2021, 04:31:42 AM

You are right, Dubai is the most admirable place for cricket because when there is any risk in specified countries most of the countries will decide to conduct the cricket matches in Dubai and they will share the revenue, it has already happened many times in the history.

It is not just the revenue-sharing agreement and low chances of rain. The topmost advantage in playing cricket in the UAE is that they don't have to pay any entertainment tax or income tax there (UAE doesn't have any of these taxes). When the BCCI conducted IPL in UAE, they saved around 30% of the total amount in the form of tax waiver on ticket sales and GST. The players also benefitted, as they were excluded from personal income tax (which can be as high as 43% in India). And obviously playing in India means providing favors to the politicians and bureaucrats in the from of free tickets and dinners.

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Quote from: vella85 on February 04, 2021, 04:54:45 PM

In the latest news, cricket Australia have cancelled the Australian tour of South Africa due to the virus and the concerns about the new virus strain. They offered for South Africa to come play in Australia but they knocked it back which is understandable. I'm sure something could be worked out like we have been seeing with other series going on.

South Africa is going through a very bad phase right now, with increasing number of infections and deaths, so the reluctance from the part of the Australian side to tour that country is perfectly justifiable. The South Africans are not very happy about it, and understandably so. The Australian tour was their chance of getting the finances back on track, and now that is gone as well. They have the option of traveling to Australia, but then the TV rights will stay with CA rather than CSA.

@Sithara007 it’s a sad decision for cricket fans because I was really looking forward to this series, but sadly one cannot do anything about it. Another option for them was to host the series in Dubai like Pakistan did, and then split the revenue with each other.

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https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Pakistan-play-cricket-only-in-Abu-Dhabi-as-a-mutual-venue

You are right, Dubai is the most admirable place for cricket because when there is any risk in specified countries most of the countries will decide to conduct the cricket matches in Dubai and they will share the revenue, it has already happened many times in the history.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 06, 2021, 02:01:30 AM

This is indeed good that few people will be allowed in the stadiums to watch the matches. However, i wished that if few matches of the PSL could be held in this newly build spectacular stadium also.

May be they could hold a few matches in locations such as Gwadar, Chitral, Athmuqam.etc. But logistics could be challenging. Nowadays, only a small fraction of the revenues for the cricket boards come from gate collection. So they can afford to host cricket matches away from major population centers.

Even in India, there were proposals to develop the existing cricket stadiums in tourist destinations such as Shillong, Chail, Darjeeling, Imphal, Port Blair.etc. But due to one reason or other, none of the proposals made much movement (perhaps with the exception of Dharamshala in HP and Krishnagiri in Wynad). In particular I would like to see a few IPL matches staged in Shillong, because it is such a beautiful city.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 05, 2021, 12:22:29 AM

BTW, there is good news from Pakistan:

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/psl-2021-fans-up-to-20-stadium-capacity-allowed-to-attend-matches-2363243

For the upcoming PSL tournament, fans will be allowed inside the stadiums (up to 20% of the capacity).

This is indeed good that few people will be allowed in the stadiums to watch the matches. However, i wished that if few matches of the PSL could be held in this newly build spectacular stadium also.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 06, 2021, 01:02:32 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 05, 2021, 11:59:19 PM

Australia and India are two of the richest board and they do not need to play a lot of international matches to generate revenue. The virus strain was still present when these two countries were playing matches. Since it was a home series Australia did not have any issue at that time, and the Indian board wanted to cash in. That is why they played and now they only using the virus as an excuse.

I can't agree with this. Australia is having very low rates of COVID 19 infection, and BCCI assessed the situation and found that the risk in touring that country was minimal. On the other hand, South Africa is one of the countries which is hit hard by the pandemic, and they have around 10,000 new cases per day (for Australia, the daily average number of new cases stand between 5 and 10). You can't even compare the situation in both the countries, as the infection rate in South Africa is almost a thousand times higher.

I have seen tweets by Pieterson and Vaughan. Either they are misinformed, or they just want to use this as an excuse for their anti-India tirade. They are essentially trying to drag in the BCCI, in an issue between the CA and the CSA.

While i can understand CA concern but if we go by this logic then Australia/Pakistan/West Indies should have cancelled their England's tour as well. After all UK was in really bad situation at that time as far as COVID go but they didn't.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 05, 2021, 11:59:19 PM

Australia and India are two of the richest board and they do not need to play a lot of international matches to generate revenue. The virus strain was still present when these two countries were playing matches. Since it was a home series Australia did not have any issue at that time, and the Indian board wanted to cash in. That is why they played and now they only using the virus as an excuse.

I can't agree with this. Australia is having very low rates of COVID 19 infection, and BCCI assessed the situation and found that the risk in touring that country was minimal. On the other hand, South Africa is one of the countries which is hit hard by the pandemic, and they have around 10,000 new cases per day (for Australia, the daily average number of new cases stand between 5 and 10). You can't even compare the situation in both the countries, as the infection rate in South Africa is almost a thousand times higher.

I have seen tweets by Pieterson and Vaughan. Either they are misinformed, or they just want to use this as an excuse for their anti-India tirade. They are essentially trying to drag in the BCCI, in an issue between the CA and the CSA.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 05, 2021, 09:53:29 PM

Quote from: vella85 on February 05, 2021, 05:11:12 PM

Yes I was looking forward to this series as it would of been the first time back for Steve Smith and David Warner after the sandpaper scandal. I think if the virus strain wasn't as bad and was the normal strain then Australia would tour SA. It would of been great if both boards could work out a share of the TV rights but then again, would SA want to travel to Australia with the strict quarantine Australia has for anyone coming from SA, this could also be stopping SA from accepting to travel to Australia.

Yeah.. there is a lot of talk about the new virus strain that has been discovered in South Africa. A lot of people, including Kevin Pieterson and Michael Vaughan have issued statements on this regard. In case of Pieterson, he raised the question whether Australia could have done the same, if the tour was against India. Here is his original tweet:

https://twitter.com/KP24/status/1356905987274379267

But personally, I believe that CA made the right decision by pulling out of the tour.

Australia and India are two of the richest board and they do not need to play a lot of international matches to generate revenue. The virus strain was still present when these two countries were playing matches. Since it was a home series Australia did not have any issue at that time, and the Indian board wanted to cash in. That is why they played and now they only using the virus as an excuse.

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Quote from: vella85 on February 05, 2021, 05:11:12 PM

Yes I was looking forward to this series as it would of been the first time back for Steve Smith and David Warner after the sandpaper scandal. I think if the virus strain wasn't as bad and was the normal strain then Australia would tour SA. It would of been great if both boards could work out a share of the TV rights but then again, would SA want to travel to Australia with the strict quarantine Australia has for anyone coming from SA, this could also be stopping SA from accepting to travel to Australia.

Yeah.. there is a lot of talk about the new virus strain that has been discovered in South Africa. A lot of people, including Kevin Pieterson and Michael Vaughan have issued statements on this regard. In case of Pieterson, he raised the question whether Australia could have done the same, if the tour was against India. Here is his original tweet:

https://twitter.com/KP24/status/1356905987274379267

But personally, I believe that CA made the right decision by pulling out of the tour.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 04, 2021, 10:29:26 PM

Quote from: vella85 on February 04, 2021, 04:54:45 PM

In the latest news, cricket Australia have cancelled the Australian tour of South Africa due to the virus and the concerns about the new virus strain. They offered for South Africa to come play in Australia but they knocked it back which is understandable. I'm sure something could be worked out like we have been seeing with other series going on.

South Africa is going through a very bad phase right now, with increasing number of infections and deaths, so the reluctance from the part of the Australian side to tour that country is perfectly justifiable. The South Africans are not very happy about it, and understandably so. The Australian tour was their chance of getting the finances back on track, and now that is gone as well. They have the option of traveling to Australia, but then the TV rights will stay with CA rather than CSA.

Yes I was looking forward to this series as it would of been the first time back for Steve Smith and David Warner after the sandpaper scandal. I think if the virus strain wasn't as bad and was the normal strain then Australia would tour SA. It would of been great if both boards could work out a share of the TV rights but then again, would SA want to travel to Australia with the strict quarantine Australia has for anyone coming from SA, this could also be stopping SA from accepting to travel to Australia.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 04, 2021, 11:13:01 PM

@Sithara007 it’s a sad decision for cricket fans because I was really looking forward to this series, but sadly one cannot do anything about it. Another option for them was to host the series in Dubai like Pakistan did, and then split the revenue with each other.

Source:

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Pakistan-play-cricket-only-in-Abu-Dhabi-as-a-mutual-venue

Additional expenses are involved if a team plays most of their matches in neutral venues. In case of UAE, the taxes are not there so the expenses may be low, but even then it will turn out to be a loss making proposition for the hosts. So I understand the reluctance from the part of the South Africans. But the Australians are perfectly justified in their stance. Right now it is not safe to tour South Africa. Yesterday they had almost 4,000 new cases and around 300 deaths from COVID 19. The situation is really bad there and if the Australian players think that the country is not safe to tour, then I can't blame them.

BTW, there is good news from Pakistan:

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/psl-2021-fans-up-to-20-stadium-capacity-allowed-to-attend-matches-2363243

For the upcoming PSL tournament, fans will be allowed inside the stadiums (up to 20% of the capacity).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 04, 2021, 10:29:26 PM

Quote from: vella85 on February 04, 2021, 04:54:45 PM

In the latest news, cricket Australia have cancelled the Australian tour of South Africa due to the virus and the concerns about the new virus strain. They offered for South Africa to come play in Australia but they knocked it back which is understandable. I'm sure something could be worked out like we have been seeing with other series going on.

South Africa is going through a very bad phase right now, with increasing number of infections and deaths, so the reluctance from the part of the Australian side to tour that country is perfectly justifiable. The South Africans are not very happy about it, and understandably so. The Australian tour was their chance of getting the finances back on track, and now that is gone as well. They have the option of traveling to Australia, but then the TV rights will stay with CA rather than CSA.

@Sithara007 it’s a sad decision for cricket fans because I was really looking forward to this series, but sadly one cannot do anything about it. Another option for them was to host the series in Dubai like Pakistan did, and then split the revenue with each other.

Source:

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Pakistan-play-cricket-only-in-Abu-Dhabi-as-a-mutual-venue

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Quote from: vella85 on February 04, 2021, 04:54:45 PM

In the latest news, cricket Australia have cancelled the Australian tour of South Africa due to the virus and the concerns about the new virus strain. They offered for South Africa to come play in Australia but they knocked it back which is understandable. I'm sure something could be worked out like we have been seeing with other series going on.

South Africa is going through a very bad phase right now, with increasing number of infections and deaths, so the reluctance from the part of the Australian side to tour that country is perfectly justifiable. The South Africans are not very happy about it, and understandably so. The Australian tour was their chance of getting the finances back on track, and now that is gone as well. They have the option of traveling to Australia, but then the TV rights will stay with CA rather than CSA.

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In the latest news, cricket Australia have cancelled the Australian tour of South Africa due to the virus and the concerns about the new virus strain. They offered for South Africa to come play in Australia but they knocked it back which is understandable. I'm sure something could be worked out like we have been seeing with other series going on.

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Quote from: KennyR on January 23, 2021, 07:02:29 AM

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I agree with you, 2 years is really enough time to understand the trade. But I have been betting only on cricket and football for 2 years. Didn't bet on any other game. And I haven't watched any other games closely. So even though I have been sporting gambling for 2 years, I think my knowledge of sports outside of cricket and football is not enough..

Why there is a need to diversify? If you are good in predicting cricket and football matches, then concentrate on them. Even I don't bet on sports events, where I don't have enough knowledge or confidence. And I am not sure whether 2 years is enough. Correctly predicting cricket/football matches takes a long time to master. You will get better at prediction, with more experience.

Thanks for your Suggestions. I think you are right. You should focus more on the thing on which you are more proficient. Be influenced by friends, I occasionally bet on another game, and lost. So I want to gain enough knowledge about other sports as well.

Rather than knowledge gaining it is a must to gather more information related to the game. Through information gathering only it is possible to make better prediction about the match result. Most of the time users do mistake in this. when they loss in a familiar game they tend to bet on unknown games/matches to retain the lost fund. This is wrong, because this leads to further loss. Only the luckiest win on such situations.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 28, 2020, 11:14:56 PM

Thanks for your Suggestions. I think you are right. You should focus more on the thing on which you are more proficient. Be influenced by friends, I occasionally bet on another game, and lost. So I want to gain enough knowledge about other sports as well.

Do you consider gambling as a passive source of revenue, or as a hobby? I am an occasional gambler and I regard gambling as a hobby, which helps to get around the boredom of the "work from home" stuff. So losing a few bucks once in a while doesn't impact me much. Most of the time, I make bets in favor of the teams I support. Sometimes I may win the bet, but the chances are that I will be unlucky most of the times.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 28, 2020, 10:09:23 PM

Quote from: Iranus on December 28, 2020, 09:26:38 PM

I agree with you, 2 years is really enough time to understand the trade. But I have been betting only on cricket and football for 2 years. Didn't bet on any other game. And I haven't watched any other games closely. So even though I have been sporting gambling for 2 years, I think my knowledge of sports outside of cricket and football is not enough..

Why there is a need to diversify? If you are good in predicting cricket and football matches, then concentrate on them. Even I don't bet on sports events, where I don't have enough knowledge or confidence. And I am not sure whether 2 years is enough. Correctly predicting cricket/football matches takes a long time to master. You will get better at prediction, with more experience.

Thanks for your Suggestions. I think you are right. You should focus more on the thing on which you are more proficient. Be influenced by friends, I occasionally bet on another game, and lost. So I want to gain enough knowledge about other sports as well.

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