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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 12:19:16 PM

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:45:24 AM

The World Cup qualifiers are in full swing. Weak teams are getting ample opportunity to match themselves. Today is the sixth match between Oman and USA. Oman has already managed to take 200 runs. However, in fact, today, Oman would won Having to keep up with the win.

I am not following this but how does this work. There are seven teams in this qualifier and Oman is on the top of the points table.
How many teams will qualify ?

Also i see Oman and USA played far more matches than the other teams. Why Huh

You can check the cricket team scoreboard in Oman and USA. Most of the players have been included with citizenship from other countries. Most of the cricket cricketers are from Sri Lanka, India and Pakistan So cricketers from all those countries can play fairly well. Qualifier matches Oman and USA top performers.

Much like the brain drain, the players are given huge amount of money and at the same time instead of them playing on behalf of their own country they would rather go to a place where they are respected more in the first place. Since in country like India, cricket is much like the *appearance* as well, therefore many of the talented young people are almost.ignored..

But not only that even if Oman did win , there were much more foreign national players in the other team which was honestly so weird. Is this something that should be banned as well ?

Even the player of the match was Aayan Khan..

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 20, 2021, 09:55:59 AM

Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:45:24 AM

The World Cup qualifiers are in full swing. Weak teams are getting ample opportunity to match themselves. Today is the sixth match between Oman and USA. Oman has already managed to take 200 runs. However, in fact, today, Oman would won Having to keep up with the win.

I am not following this but how does this work. There are seven teams in this qualifier and Oman is on the top of the points table.
How many teams will qualify ?

Also i see Oman and USA played far more matches than the other teams. Why Huh

You can check the cricket team scoreboard in Oman and USA. Most of the players have been included with citizenship from other countries. Most of the cricket cricketers are from Sri Lanka, India and Pakistan So cricketers from all those countries can play fairly well. Qualifier matches Oman and USA top performers.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 20, 2021, 09:51:55 AM

Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:45:24 AM

The World Cup qualifiers are in full swing. Weak teams are getting ample opportunity to match themselves. Today is the sixth match between Oman and USA. Oman has already managed to take 200 runs. However, in fact, today, Oman would won Having to keep up with the win.

It is a tri-series between Oman, USA and Nepal. Only Nepal is having native players and the other two don't have any nationals in their cricket squad (their playing XIs are entirely made up of Pakistani and Indian citizens). What is the point in having international teams like this? Take the case of Oman players for example. I am 100% sure that they don't have any loyalty towards Oman. They themselves would be supporting their home country when they play for Oman. The tragedy here is that teams with native players such as Nepal and Kenya get sidelined by these teams.

Oman and USA are not basically cricket based countries, people of these countries always put more importance on all sports other than cricket. So cricket teams from all countries are made up of non-formal players from other countries. The only Nepal cricket team is made up of teams with only their native cricketers. Other countries qualify themselves from the qualifiers To do so, it has included local cricketers as well as cricket star cricketers from other countries.

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:45:24 AM

The World Cup qualifiers are in full swing. Weak teams are getting ample opportunity to match themselves. Today is the sixth match between Oman and USA. Oman has already managed to take 200 runs. However, in fact, today, Oman would won Having to keep up with the win.

I am not following this but how does this work. There are seven teams in this qualifier and Oman is on the top of the points table.
How many teams will qualify ?

Also i see Oman and USA played far more matches than the other teams. Why Huh

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Quote from: nhaila on September 20, 2021, 08:45:24 AM

The World Cup qualifiers are in full swing. Weak teams are getting ample opportunity to match themselves. Today is the sixth match between Oman and USA. Oman has already managed to take 200 runs. However, in fact, today, Oman would won Having to keep up with the win.

It is a tri-series between Oman, USA and Nepal. Only Nepal is having native players and the other two don't have any nationals in their cricket squad (their playing XIs are entirely made up of Pakistani and Indian citizens). What is the point in having international teams like this? Take the case of Oman players for example. I am 100% sure that they don't have any loyalty towards Oman. They themselves would be supporting their home country when they play for Oman. The tragedy here is that teams with native players such as Nepal and Kenya get sidelined by these teams.

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The World Cup qualifiers are in full swing. Weak teams are getting ample opportunity to match themselves. Today is the sixth match between Oman and USA. Oman has already managed to take 200 runs. However, in fact, today, Oman would won Having to keep up with the win.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on September 19, 2021, 12:11:38 AM

Yes, the things have changed in these 18 - 20 years. ICC was very fair back then and there was not much influence by the BCCI or ECB.
I think ICC won't take any action on it and this give courage to big nations to keep repeating the same actions for their own benefit.

ICC was more or less unbiased during the pre-2004 years, and this was the time when the pig 3 lobby took over the ICC. Actually the politics within the ICC closely follow what happens in India. 2004 was the year when the UPA government came in to power in India. The BCCI was taken over by the Sharad Pawar / N Srinivasan gang. They gained control of the ICC very soon. In 2014, UPA was kicked out of power and the NDA government was elected. Immediately there was a change in the BCCI/ICC. Srinivasan was replaced by Shashank Manohar, who slowly reduced the power of pig 3. But still, I don't think we'll ever go back to the pre-2004 era.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 18, 2021, 10:58:14 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 18, 2021, 03:13:17 AM

I am surprised that you are still thinking that ICC would favour PCB. Nothing of that will happen now, they are busy preparing for the T20 WorldCup and moreover, except BCCI, ICC does not favour SENA boards. They will always favour CNZ as you cannot question security threats for players. CNZ should come out with a proper response as what they did was very shameful.

Nothing is guaranteed right now. I don't know which direction the ICC will tilt. Do you remember what happened during the 2003 Cricket World Cup? Both Zimbabwe and Kenya were awarded points (through walkover), after England and New Zealand refused to tour these countries due to "security threat". And back then New Zealand failed to qualify for the semi-finals just because of this. So will the ICC penalize New Zealand this time also? But times have changed. And 2003 was during the Dalmiya-era, when the pig3 didn't had much power.

Yes, the things have changed in these 18 - 20 years. ICC was very fair back then and there was not much influence by the BCCI or ECB.
I think ICC won't take any action on it and this give courage to big nations to keep repeating the same actions for their own benefit.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 18, 2021, 03:13:17 AM

I am surprised that you are still thinking that ICC would favour PCB. Nothing of that will happen now, they are busy preparing for the T20 WorldCup and moreover, except BCCI, ICC does not favour SENA boards. They will always favour CNZ as you cannot question security threats for players. CNZ should come out with a proper response as what they did was very shameful.

Nothing is guaranteed right now. I don't know which direction the ICC will tilt. Do you remember what happened during the 2003 Cricket World Cup? Both Zimbabwe and Kenya were awarded points (through walkover), after England and New Zealand refused to tour these countries due to "security threat". And back then New Zealand failed to qualify for the semi-finals just because of this. So will the ICC penalize New Zealand this time also? But times have changed. And 2003 was during the Dalmiya-era, when the pig3 didn't had much power.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 17, 2021, 10:31:13 PM

I don't think that the PCB should expect a favorable decision from the ICC. The pig 3 (BCCI, ECB and CA) will be solidly supporting CNZ. Although it was unethical to pull out of the tour at the last moment, CNZ do have a valid reason for doing that. Now the question is whether the ICC will try to pacify the PCB by offering some financial assistance or an offer of playing the series elsewhere (UAE?). The first one looks unlikely as of now, since the ICC is short of funds at this point due to the pandemic situation.

I am surprised that you are still thinking that ICC would favour PCB. Nothing of that will happen now, they are busy preparing for the T20 WorldCup and moreover, except BCCI, ICC does not favour SENA boards. They will always favour CNZ as you cannot question security threats for players. CNZ should come out with a proper response as what they did was very shameful.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 17, 2021, 10:31:13 PM

I don't think that the PCB should expect a favorable decision from the ICC. The pig 3 (BCCI, ECB and CA) will be solidly supporting CNZ. Although it was unethical to pull out of the tour at the last moment, CNZ do have a valid reason for doing that. Now the question is whether the ICC will try to pacify the PCB by offering some financial assistance or an offer of playing the series elsewhere (UAE?). The first one looks unlikely as of now, since the ICC is short of funds at this point due to the pandemic situation.

The Series won't be shifted to anywhere because IPL is around the corner and the focus is on IPL.

By the way, there was no security threat in Pakistan, but New Zealand had a losing threat and they opted out.

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I don't think that the PCB should expect a favorable decision from the ICC. The pig 3 (BCCI, ECB and CA) will be solidly supporting CNZ. Although it was unethical to pull out of the tour at the last moment, CNZ do have a valid reason for doing that. Now the question is whether the ICC will try to pacify the PCB by offering some financial assistance or an offer of playing the series elsewhere (UAE?). The first one looks unlikely as of now, since the ICC is short of funds at this point due to the pandemic situation.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 17, 2021, 09:26:02 AM

What New Zealand did today is not acceptable and they should be held accountable for that by ICC.

Rameez Raja has a very clear stance on it and i think we as a nation should boycott Cricket relations with New Zealand unless they agree to play the full series in our country.

@UmerIdrees it’s a delicate situation for Pakistan, because if ICC finds favour in New Zealand’s merit then many other teams that were traveling to Pakistan will also cancel their tours. Also boycotting is not an solution, they should work with New Zealand and see how they make it mutually beneficial maybe play more games at a neutral venue, because gaining some revenue from this series is better than losing it all.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/09/17/englands-tour-pakistan-serious-doubt-new-zealand-tour-cancelled/

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What New Zealand did today is not acceptable and they should be held accountable for that by ICC.

Rameez Raja has a very clear stance on it and i think we as a nation should boycott Cricket relations with New Zealand unless they agree to play the full series in our country.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 04, 2021, 07:47:41 AM

@Sithara007 I’m happy for those teams that’ll get a chance to participate in the World Cup, because World Cup is a precious tournament and I can understand why they wanted to be a part of it. However I don’t think many player’s will be happy, as it’ll increase their playing time, and I’m keen to know what the player’s think of this new format.

The players have welcomed the announcement and it is the businessmen who are not happy. If you want fewer matches, then you need to follow the format that was used for the 2007 World Cup. But the BCCI are afraid of this format, because they failed to qualify for the second round in 2007. When other sports are increasing the number of participants (football world cup now has 48 countries, up from 32), I don't understand the mentality of a section of administrators to limit the number of teams in cricket world cup. The current format of 10 countries is not a real world cup. How can a tournament having just 10 teams be termed as a "world" cup?

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Great news coming in for the supporters of the globalization of cricket. During yesterday's general meeting, the ICC has decided to increase the number of teams in both ODI and T20 World Cup. From the next rights cycle (2023-31) onwards, the ODI world cup (2027 and 2031) will feature a total of 14 teams, while the T20 World Cup will witness the participation of 20 teams. However the 2023 ODI World Cup will be limited to 10 teams. T20 World Cups for the next rights cycle are scheduled for - 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030.

@Sithara007 I’m happy for those teams that’ll get a chance to participate in the World Cup, because World Cup is a precious tournament and I can understand why they wanted to be a part of it. However I don’t think many player’s will be happy, as it’ll increase their playing time, and I’m keen to know what the player’s think of this new format.

Being able to play in the World Cup is honorable for all the players. Under the new ICC rules, many smaller teams will have the opportunity to participate in the World Cup. As a result, the players of the teams will get a chance to prove their abilities. And teams like Zimbabwe Ireland will be saved from losing.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 01, 2021, 10:35:08 PM

Great news coming in for the supporters of the globalization of cricket. During yesterday's general meeting, the ICC has decided to increase the number of teams in both ODI and T20 World Cup. From the next rights cycle (2023-31) onwards, the ODI world cup (2027 and 2031) will feature a total of 14 teams, while the T20 World Cup will witness the participation of 20 teams. However the 2023 ODI World Cup will be limited to 10 teams. T20 World Cups for the next rights cycle are scheduled for - 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030.

@Sithara007 I’m happy for those teams that’ll get a chance to participate in the World Cup, because World Cup is a precious tournament and I can understand why they wanted to be a part of it. However I don’t think many player’s will be happy, as it’ll increase their playing time, and I’m keen to know what the player’s think of this new format.

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Great news coming in for the supporters of the globalization of cricket. During yesterday's general meeting, the ICC has decided to increase the number of teams in both ODI and T20 World Cup. From the next rights cycle (2023-31) onwards, the ODI world cup (2027 and 2031) will feature a total of 14 teams, while the T20 World Cup will witness the participation of 20 teams. However the 2023 ODI World Cup will be limited to 10 teams. T20 World Cups for the next rights cycle are scheduled for - 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 09, 2021, 01:15:13 AM

BBCI will never agree to schedule IPL in England, I am sure they will go ahead with UAE. Since UAE was able to conduct the last IPL without any issue it will be again easy for them to conduct the rest of IPL this year too. What I do not understand is why BCCI is delaying its decision when it knows it does not have many options available. Are they contemplating the possible cost or is there anything else that is stopping them?

UAE makes perfect economical sense. England or Australia is out of question, because the expenses are way too high. On top of that, the BCCI don't want to share the revenue with these boards. If I remember correctly, South Africa hosted one season of the IPL and that was a grand success. But right now South Africa is also out of contention, because that country is undergoing a third wave of COVID 19 infections. So for now, UAE is the only viable option left on the table.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 08, 2021, 10:40:12 PM

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It is just our expectations that the situation would improve by October, last year i had the same feeling when everything went downhill and i was expecting the world to be back to normal in a few months and we now almost over one and half years and yet some of the countries are struggling with the second wave of virus and people are dying in the streets.

If the tournament can be conducted in the UAE safely so be it, we need some sort of sporting events to fall back and place some bets and hopefully we will see the World Cup as scheduled.

The reason why UAE is regarded as safe is because they have a vaccination rate of above 50%, and the number of new reported cases are very low. Apart from the UAE, England is another cricket playing nation which has achieved more than 50% vaccination rate. But I don't think that the ECB and the BCCI will be able to reach an amicable revenue sharing agreement between them for the T20 World Cup. The advantage in conducting the tournament in Emirates such as Sharjah, Dubai and Abu Dhabi is that there are no taxes in that country. The ICC needs to pay for just logistics and labor costs.

BBCI will never agree to schedule IPL in England, I am sure they will go ahead with UAE. Since UAE was able to conduct the last IPL without any issue it will be again easy for them to conduct the rest of IPL this year too. What I do not understand is why BCCI is delaying its decision when it knows it does not have many options available. Are they contemplating the possible cost or is there anything else that is stopping them?

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