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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on April 14, 2021, 11:05:55 AM

Corruption is a huge problem in any sport and the situation with IPL teams is that the BCCI should give them harsher punishment and ICC has nothing to do with the event.

Agreed. It was the BCCI which decided to hand out very lax punishment to both the franchises. And they allowed the franchise ownership to remain unchanged (although the teams were suspended for two years). With any other sports league, the franchise contract would have been cancelled. The owners indulging in match fixing is a very serious offense. And players such as Sreesanth got life bans for accusations, that were later proven to be false.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 14, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Personally I would say that we should be happy about it. Any sort of publicity is going to be good for Bitcoin. As such this is not Bitcoin's problem.

I do not agree with the statement as i do not want to see bitcoin being included in scam and illegal activities, anyone who knows about bitcoin knows that it is not the issue with bitcoin but for a non bitcoiner these sort of negative news are not inspiring either to look into them and if you are looking for publicity in 2021 when it is the biggest earners in the financial sector and still looking for advertisement then it is definitely not the way.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 14, 2021, 08:24:32 AM

Corruption has been a big issue in cricket for the last few decades. And the ICC has zero interest in eliminating match fixing. They always punish the players, but when the franchise owners are involved in match fixing, they treat them with kid gloves. For example take the case of Rajasthan Royals and Chennai Super Kings, whose owners were convicted of match fixing in 2015.

Corruption is a huge problem in any sport and the situation with IPL teams is that the BCCI should give them harsher punishment and ICC has nothing to do with the event.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 14, 2021, 07:43:17 AM

@Visnu.Reang yea even I read about this and for a while I was wondering if he was a new player, but then suddenly I recollected that he was an old player. Also I really like how the media finds a way to insert bitcoin name in this, and this also shows that player’s are aware of bitcoin which is good publicity for cryptocurrency.

Personally I would say that we should be happy about it. Any sort of publicity is going to be good for Bitcoin. As such this is not Bitcoin's problem. Corruption has been a big issue in cricket for the last few decades. And the ICC has zero interest in eliminating match fixing. They always punish the players, but when the franchise owners are involved in match fixing, they treat them with kid gloves. For example take the case of Rajasthan Royals and Chennai Super Kings, whose owners were convicted of match fixing in 2015.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 14, 2021, 07:21:11 AM

Sad news coming in from Zimbabwe: Heath Streak is banned for 8 years, for taking part in match fixing. He is accused of fixing multiple matches (both international matches and those in franchise T20 leagues) and one important aspect is that he received a part of the bribe in the form of Bitcoin. This is very bad, as he was one of the heroes during my childhood days. Details of the charges against him can be found here:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/heath-streak-handed-eight-year-ban-for-breaching-icc-anti-corruption-code-1258953

@Visnu.Reang yea even I read about this and for a while I was wondering if he was a new player, but then suddenly I recollected that he was an old player. Also I really like how the media finds a way to insert bitcoin name in this, and this also shows that player’s are aware of bitcoin which is good publicity for cryptocurrency.

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Sad news coming in from Zimbabwe: Heath Streak is banned for 8 years, for taking part in match fixing. He is accused of fixing multiple matches (both international matches and those in franchise T20 leagues) and one important aspect is that he received a part of the bribe in the form of Bitcoin. This is very bad, as he was one of the heroes during my childhood days. Details of the charges against him can be found here:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/heath-streak-handed-eight-year-ban-for-breaching-icc-anti-corruption-code-1258953

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There is some excellent news for the Big 3 supporters. The ICC (Big 3 faction) has successfully sabotaged the proposal to include cricket in 2028 Olympics (which will be held in Los Angeles, United States). So as usual, the discussion now moves to the proposal to include the sport for the 2032 Brisbane Olympics. Cricket Australia is in favor of including cricket in 2032 Games. BTW, the ICC is saying that they are not ready for the inclusion of cricket for the 2028 or 2032 editions, but may consider for the 2036 version. Going by their delaying tactics, I don't expect cricket to be included in Olympics before 2220.

https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-news/cricket-amongst-the-sports-willing-to-be-part-of-the-2032-brisbane-olympics/

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An ICC’s source revealed that the apex body of the sport was not yet ready to make a formal bid to join the 2028 Olympic games in Los Angeles or the 2032 Brisbane Olympics. Thus, they would depend on the event organizers, making the sport a host city pick. Cricket featured only in the 1900 Olympic games in Paris, where only the United Kingdom and France participated in a two-day match.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 15, 2021, 09:13:10 AM

^^ I am glad to see that some of these players who were retired a decade ago are keeping their fitness level, i was expecting a normal tournament in the beginning but some are dominating especially Kevin Pietersen and if Andrew Flintoff was also in the team they would have won the entire tournament as they both can smash any of these bowlers out of the park as they are really fit and can smash the ball a long way.

Kevin Pietersen is the captain of the England side, but so far he has failed to perform (apart from the one match against India, where he made 72). Andrew Flintoff is currently working as a television presenter, and I don't think that he will find this series very rewarding in terms of financials. He would have made a difference for sure, as I have heard that he still works hard in maintaining the fitness levels.

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^^ I am glad to see that some of these players who were retired a decade ago are keeping their fitness level, i was expecting a normal tournament in the beginning but some are dominating especially Kevin Pietersen and if Andrew Flintoff was also in the team they would have won the entire tournament as they both can smash any of these bowlers out of the park as they are really fit and can smash the ball a long way.

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Quote from: ene1980 on March 15, 2021, 08:01:21 AM

You cannot take these exhibition matches to place a bet, all the matches are played without much seriousness and they need to conduct a tournament for the elder players and the team members keeps on changing. Bangladesh is the only team to win a match in the legend series and today they are playing against South Africa and i wont be surprised if Bangladesh today beats South Africa.

I have watched a few matches. It will be wrong to say that they are played without any seriousness. But the fitness level is not good for many of the players. It is not surprising, considering the fact that many of the players are aged 40 and above. Also they haven't played in a while. A few of the players have maintained excellent fitness levels, such as Yuvraj Singh and Virender Sehwag of India, and Tillakaratne Dilshan of Sri Lanka.

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Quote from: romero121 on March 14, 2021, 06:56:52 PM

During the post match conversation with Yuvraj, he mentioned of smashing four sixes in a over. He was with the plans of hitting the fifth six, but he decided to be on the strike for the next two overs to keep the score good. How responsible is these legendary players.

You cannot take these exhibition matches to place a bet, all the matches are played without much seriousness and they need to conduct a tournament for the elder players and the team members keeps on changing. Bangladesh is the only team to win a match in the legend series and today they are playing against South Africa and i wont be surprised if Bangladesh today beats South Africa.

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Quote from: romero121 on March 14, 2021, 06:56:52 PM

Even after years once again Yuvraj Singh have reached close to his previous record of six sixes in an over. During the road safety series for Legends he had done this against South Africa Legends. India made a score of 203 losing three wickets. South Africa was able to reach only 148 runs losing seven wickets in 20 overs.

During the post match conversation with Yuvraj, he mentioned of smashing four sixes in a over. He was with the plans of hitting the fifth six, but he decided to be on the strike for the next two overs to keep the score good. How responsible is these legendary players.

LOL.. India seems to be invincible as far as this "Legends" series is concerned. I am not surprised, because the remaining teams don't have their best players. At least half the members of the South African side were irregular players back in their playing days. I am talking about players such as Monde Zondeki, Alviro Petersen and Thandi Tshabalala. Only a few, such as Jonty Rhodes, Makhaya Ntini and Justin Kemp can be called as "regulars".

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Even after years once again Yuvraj Singh have reached close to his previous record of six sixes in an over. During the road safety series for Legends he had done this against South Africa Legends. India made a score of 203 losing three wickets. South Africa was able to reach only 148 runs losing seven wickets in 20 overs.

During the post match conversation with Yuvraj, he mentioned of smashing four sixes in a over. He was with the plans of hitting the fifth six, but he decided to be on the strike for the next two overs to keep the score good. How responsible is these legendary players.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 13, 2021, 11:09:44 PM

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In India, we don't need to pay taxes on the income that is earned in other countries. So any income that is generated in the UAE is not considered for tax purposes in India. And there is no income tax in the UAE as well. UAE is one of the few countries, where there is no tax on your income. So it is a win-win situation for players who take part in tournaments that are held in the UAE. On the other hand, player income for IPL and other tournaments that are held in India are subjected to Indian income tax (maximum rate of 42.7%).

I am not aware of these rules, so basically you can travel to other country and work and you are excluded from paying the taxes even with temporary permits, that is a really great opportunity if that is the situation and that means all the tours India makes oversees, the players are not subject to the match fees as income tax, they only need to pay for the matches played in India ?.

There are certain limitations. The tax laws state that if an individual resides in India for more than 6 months out of the financial year, then his worldwide income become taxable. Freelancers in India, who works for foreign employers need to pay income tax on their salaries, although this may be already subjected to income tax in the country of the employer. In case of sports sector, these laws are a bit more complex, as they have special exclusions.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 13, 2021, 11:09:44 PM

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In India, we don't need to pay taxes on the income that is earned in other countries. So any income that is generated in the UAE is not considered for tax purposes in India. And there is no income tax in the UAE as well. UAE is one of the few countries, where there is no tax on your income. So it is a win-win situation for players who take part in tournaments that are held in the UAE. On the other hand, player income for IPL and other tournaments that are held in India are subjected to Indian income tax (maximum rate of 42.7%).

I am not aware of these rules, so basically you can travel to other country and work and you are excluded from paying the taxes even with temporary permits, that is a really great opportunity if that is the situation and that means all the tours India makes oversees, the players are not subject to the match fees as income tax, they only need to pay for the matches played in India ?.

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^^^ I guess UAE introduced VAT from 2018 onwards. But the rates are just 5%. Now compare it with 43% income tax that the players need to deposit if the tournament is held in India. Here the players are saving an additional 35%-40%. Actually this is one of the disadvantages of holding tournaments in India. Many of the countries give tax-free status to major sports events in their country. The Indian government also needs to do the same.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 06, 2021, 05:01:40 AM

The topmost advantage in playing cricket in the UAE is that they don't have to pay any entertainment tax or income tax there (UAE doesn't have any of these taxes). When the BCCI conducted IPL in UAE, they saved around 30% of the total amount in the form of tax waiver on ticket sales and GST. The players also benefitted, as they were excluded from personal income tax (which can be as high as 43% in India). And obviously playing in India means providing favors to the politicians and bureaucrats in the from of free tickets and dinners.

I do understand the weaver in Entertainment tax but how can a player avoid income tax by playing a month in Dubai ?. The organizing team will save a lot of money because they do not have the taxes imposed like other countries but income tax is not one of them and every player will pay their taxes even if they play in tax free zones Grin

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In India, we don't need to pay taxes on the income that is earned in other countries. So any income that is generated in the UAE is not considered for tax purposes in India. And there is no income tax in the UAE as well. UAE is one of the few countries, where there is no tax on your income. So it is a win-win situation for players who take part in tournaments that are held in the UAE. On the other hand, player income for IPL and other tournaments that are held in India are subjected to Indian income tax (maximum rate of 42.7%).

@Sithara007 I believe that there’s some confusion, because IPL franchises and player’s are subject to VAT in Dubai which was introduced in 2018. However due to some miscommunication both sides felt that they don’t need to pay the taxes, however if you see the law you’ll realise that they indeed need to pay taxes in Dubai.

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n IPL 2014, when 20 of the matches were played in UAE, no such tax law existed. But as per the new taxation structures, players’ salaries are bound to come under VAT TAX in UAE according to the experts.

“As per the new taxation norms in UAE, VAT will be levied on the IPL player salaries as they are providing services to the franchises”, said one of the representative of Shuraa Tax Consultants based out of UAE.

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https://www.insidesport.co/ipl-2020-new-vat-laws-in-uae-can-stump-ipl-2020-stakeholders-ipl-players-salaries-can-also-be-taxed/

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The topmost advantage in playing cricket in the UAE is that they don't have to pay any entertainment tax or income tax there (UAE doesn't have any of these taxes). When the BCCI conducted IPL in UAE, they saved around 30% of the total amount in the form of tax waiver on ticket sales and GST. The players also benefitted, as they were excluded from personal income tax (which can be as high as 43% in India). And obviously playing in India means providing favors to the politicians and bureaucrats in the from of free tickets and dinners.

I do understand the weaver in Entertainment tax but how can a player avoid income tax by playing a month in Dubai ?. The organizing team will save a lot of money because they do not have the taxes imposed like other countries but income tax is not one of them and every player will pay their taxes even if they play in tax free zones Grin

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In India, we don't need to pay taxes on the income that is earned in other countries. So any income that is generated in the UAE is not considered for tax purposes in India. And there is no income tax in the UAE as well. UAE is one of the few countries, where there is no tax on your income. So it is a win-win situation for players who take part in tournaments that are held in the UAE. On the other hand, player income for IPL and other tournaments that are held in India are subjected to Indian income tax (maximum rate of 42.7%).

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Even in India, there were proposals to develop the existing cricket stadiums in tourist destinations such as Shillong, Chail, Darjeeling, Imphal, Port Blair.etc. But due to one reason or other, none of the proposals made much movement (perhaps with the exception of Dharamshala in HP and Krishnagiri in Wynad). In particular I would like to see a few IPL matches staged in Shillong, because it is such a beautiful city.

Why destroy the beauty and built these stadiums where the international matches will not take place because of the lack of an airport near by and the amount of hours they need to travel by road and with the heavy schedule these players have it is impossible to have matches in Dharamshala. These places are echo friendly cites and it is difficult to get permission to create these structures.

Can't they use helicopter to drop the players on these stadiums which are difficult access otherwise because of long distance from the airports ?
It is always nice to play some matches at places where are not in the city and more close to nature.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on February 10, 2021, 04:27:12 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 06, 2021, 02:48:59 AM

Even in India, there were proposals to develop the existing cricket stadiums in tourist destinations such as Shillong, Chail, Darjeeling, Imphal, Port Blair.etc. But due to one reason or other, none of the proposals made much movement (perhaps with the exception of Dharamshala in HP and Krishnagiri in Wynad). In particular I would like to see a few IPL matches staged in Shillong, because it is such a beautiful city.

Why destroy the beauty and built these stadiums where the international matches will not take place because of the lack of an airport near by and the amount of hours they need to travel by road and with the heavy schedule these players have it is impossible to have matches in Dharamshala. These places are echo friendly cites and it is difficult to get permission to create these structures.

It has been not a good idea to have Cricket Stadium or any other sports like this in a tourist destination because it's going to hurt natural beauty very badly which is never been good in Asia we have many big countries, and they can construct stadiums on good and suitable places which are going to help them financially because tourist destinations are giving their part as well so going to do things like this never been acceptable.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 06, 2021, 05:01:40 AM

The topmost advantage in playing cricket in the UAE is that they don't have to pay any entertainment tax or income tax there (UAE doesn't have any of these taxes). When the BCCI conducted IPL in UAE, they saved around 30% of the total amount in the form of tax waiver on ticket sales and GST. The players also benefitted, as they were excluded from personal income tax (which can be as high as 43% in India). And obviously playing in India means providing favors to the politicians and bureaucrats in the from of free tickets and dinners.

I do understand the weaver in Entertainment tax but how can a player avoid income tax by playing a month in Dubai ?. The organizing team will save a lot of money because they do not have the taxes imposed like other countries but income tax is not one of them and every player will pay their taxes even if they play in tax free zones Grin

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