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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 21, 2020, 11:39:10 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 21, 2020, 06:42:07 AM

Yeah no insurance for this covid-19.. But Australia trying their best for this Aus vs Ind series and not ruling out any possible window with even empty grounds.

Good article about CA current situation.

CA will explore creative solutions to stage India series

Well... I trust CA when they say that they'll explore creative options. Anything is welcome, with the exception of "virtual" BS... I can't just tolerate all these virtual stuff going on these days. Cricket Australia was the first board to use stadiums with retractable roof for international cricket matches (please correct me in case I am wrong). So I guess we can expect something similar and innovative this time as well.

As long as its not book cricket, i am fine with it.

One creative way could be, Players using sandpaper officially as they can't use saliva on ball. Grin

Yeah, The Melbourne Cricket Ground.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 21, 2020, 06:42:07 AM

Yeah no insurance for this covid-19.. But Australia trying their best for this Aus vs Ind series and not ruling out any possible window with even empty grounds.

Good article about CA current situation.

CA will explore creative solutions to stage India series

Well... I trust CA when they say that they'll explore creative options. Anything is welcome, with the exception of "virtual" BS... I can't just tolerate all these virtual stuff going on these days. Cricket Australia was the first board to use stadiums with retractable roof for international cricket matches (please correct me in case I am wrong). So I guess we can expect something similar and innovative this time as well.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 21, 2020, 02:48:49 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on April 20, 2020, 01:23:00 PM

(Still discussion about COVID is a different topic so will discontinue posting from here regarding this)

COVID-19 is basically the topic to discuss these days which is why I wouldn't worry. This virus is what is on everyone's minds these days.

Yeah but this thread is about the cricket so we should discuss only about the cricket here. I do agree that all of the cricket is paused these days only because of this covid-19 but we have many other threads where covid-19 is being discussed in more details.

I wonder when we will see first match (Test / ODI / T20) after this break. Maybe next year Huh

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 20, 2020, 11:12:31 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on April 19, 2020, 10:39:09 PM

@Vishnu.Reang I believe that this series would already be insured so CA should not suffer any losses, but let’s take a hypothetical situation where the series is not insured then they will not use the word cancel, rather they’ll declare that the series is postponed and then they’ll try and schedule it in the coming months or next year. Lastly I don’t think so that CA will be in a financial trouble as they’re a rich board, and will they suffer a financial setback maybe yes but will it effect their normal operations no it won’t.

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https://cricket.yahoo.net/news/top-10-most-affluent-cricket-182300645

I have to disagree with you here. The India tour of Australia is insured, but not against pandemics. It is insured against earthquakes, other natural disasters, terrorism.etc, but pandemic is not one of the covered perils (similar to the case with the IPL insurance). So in case the tour is cancelled, CA would receive no compensation. And this will be a serious blow for them.

Yeah no insurance for this covid-19.. But Australia trying their best for this Aus vs Ind series and not ruling out any possible window with even empty grounds.

Good article about CA current situation.

CA will explore creative solutions to stage India series

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Quote from: Avirunes on April 20, 2020, 01:23:00 PM

Still its too early to say IMO. We can't say for sure that we are dealing very well since we haven't yet went through the stage like these countries already had.

What do you mean? The figures state everything. India is in a much, much better position when compared to countries like the US and UK currently though their health-care system is pretty poor thanks to the lockdown. However, I feel like the lockdown was implemented in a poor manner.

Quote from: Avirunes on April 20, 2020, 01:23:00 PM

(Still discussion about COVID is a different topic so will discontinue posting from here regarding this)

COVID-19 is basically the topic to discuss these days which is why I wouldn't worry. This virus is what is on everyone's minds these days.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 20, 2020, 01:09:21 PM

Quote from: TalkStar on April 19, 2020, 11:07:07 PM

On the other India is one of the biggest country with huge population and bad news is covid19 patients are increasing massively on their region. If social and physical transmission keep continues like this than its gonna be really hard for PM modi to control the situation.

India is actually doing really well when compared to other countries like USA etc when it comes to handling the COVID situation. They are the 2nd most populated country in the world and yet only have around 17k+ cases so far which shows that their lockdown has been effective.

On the other hand, a country like USA could not cope with this problem properly due to which it is leading the COVID rankings.

I would say its all about timing when the government tighten the screw and introduced strict lockdowns first. India was smart enough to introduce it when the situation was not very bad. Otherwise no. of infected patients and casualties would have been very big in India.

Still its too early to say IMO. We can't say for sure that we are dealing very well since we haven't yet went through the stage like these countries already had.

(Still discussion about COVID is a different topic so will discontinue posting from here regarding this)

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Quote from: TalkStar on April 19, 2020, 11:07:07 PM

On the other India is one of the biggest country with huge population and bad news is covid19 patients are increasing massively on their region. If social and physical transmission keep continues like this than its gonna be really hard for PM modi to control the situation.

India is actually doing really well when compared to other countries like USA etc when it comes to handling the COVID situation. They are the 2nd most populated country in the world and yet only have around 17k+ cases so far which shows that their lockdown has been effective.

On the other hand, a country like USA could not cope with this problem properly due to which it is leading the COVID rankings.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 19, 2020, 10:39:09 PM

@Vishnu.Reang I believe that this series would already be insured so CA should not suffer any losses, but let’s take a hypothetical situation where the series is not insured then they will not use the word cancel, rather they’ll declare that the series is postponed and then they’ll try and schedule it in the coming months or next year. Lastly I don’t think so that CA will be in a financial trouble as they’re a rich board, and will they suffer a financial setback maybe yes but will it effect their normal operations no it won’t.

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https://cricket.yahoo.net/news/top-10-most-affluent-cricket-182300645

I have to disagree with you here. The India tour of Australia is insured, but not against pandemics. It is insured against earthquakes, other natural disasters, terrorism.etc, but pandemic is not one of the covered perils (similar to the case with the IPL insurance). So in case the tour is cancelled, CA would receive no compensation. And this will be a serious blow for them.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 19, 2020, 08:19:09 AM

Well.. the other boards (including the BCCI) may also follow this, as they don't have any other choice available. But the Australian board will be in big trouble, if they have to cancel the test series against India. Bilateral series against India is huge, and it has the potential to boost the CA coffers by up to $200 million. But if they have to cancel it, then the board will be in serious financial trouble.

Recently Australian board even lost amount in stock market, guess they invested big portion of their reserves/revenue in the market as part of their investment strategy but due to COVID-19 market taking a hit and they caught up in this mess.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cricket/players-come-to-the-table-as-cricket-australia-battles-cash-crisis/news-story/98cf09b86518b89f07a64533ef93a39a

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It also defended its investment strategy, saying half the $90m invested was in fixed deposits and the other half in stocks. A spokesperson said the game had made millions in previous years and would only lose money now if it was forced to sell its stocks.

However, its annual report claims the $90m is in local and international “equity securities”.

“The majority of the company’s listed equity securities are publicly traded and are included in ASX200 Index or the NYSE International Index,” the report says.

The Australian market dropped by over 26 per cent from recent record highs in mid-March but has regained some losses since.

Nobody from Cricket Australia has spoken publicly since news about the situation was released on Thursday.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 19, 2020, 10:39:09 PM

I believe that this series would already be insured so CA should not suffer any losses, but let’s take a hypothetical situation where the series is not insured then they will not use the word cancel, rather they’ll declare that the series is postponed and then they’ll try and schedule it in the coming months or next year.

That is an alternative thought, i never heard about the series getting insured in the past and even if the match gets washed away due to weather they usually reimburse the tickets and the loss is usually managed by the respected local body conducting the match, you made a valid point which is not known by the general public, from my understanding the reason they are not able to postponed the series is because the scheduling for the next few years are already made.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 19, 2020, 08:19:09 AM

Well.. the other boards (including the BCCI) may also follow this, as they don't have any other choice available. But the Australian board will be in big trouble, if they have to cancel the test series against India. Bilateral series against India is huge, and it has the potential to boost the CA coffers by up to $200 million. But if they have to cancel it, then the board will be in serious financial trouble.

Like BCCI Australian cricket board have no more options on their hand. Aussie government have already taken strict actions to keep their citizens from Covid19 and hopefully they will take much more precautionary steps to keep their sports person safer. Australian prime minister already suggested all foreign students to go to their home countries for a shorter period if they are unable to maintain their daily costs. So in a situation like this i don't think they are thinking about any cricket tournaments or anything else. On the other India is one of the biggest country with huge population and bad news is covid19 patients are increasing massively on their region. If social and physical transmission keep continues like this than its gonna be really hard for PM modi to control the situation.

Lets hope for the best.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 19, 2020, 08:19:09 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 17, 2020, 03:14:36 PM

But does this news indicates that Australian cricket board is firing some of their administrative staffs due to coronavirus ?

Cricket Australia suspend majority of administrative staff amid coronavirus crisis

Well.. the other boards (including the BCCI) may also follow this, as they don't have any other choice available. But the Australian board will be in big trouble, if they have to cancel the test series against India. Bilateral series against India is huge, and it has the potential to boost the CA coffers by up to $200 million. But if they have to cancel it, then the board will be in serious financial trouble.

@Vishnu.Reang I believe that this series would already be insured so CA should not suffer any losses, but let’s take a hypothetical situation where the series is not insured then they will not use the word cancel, rather they’ll declare that the series is postponed and then they’ll try and schedule it in the coming months or next year. Lastly I don’t think so that CA will be in a financial trouble as they’re a rich board, and will they suffer a financial setback maybe yes but will it effect their normal operations no it won’t.

Source:

https://cricket.yahoo.net/news/top-10-most-affluent-cricket-182300645

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 17, 2020, 03:14:36 PM

But does this news indicates that Australian cricket board is firing some of their administrative staffs due to coronavirus ?

Cricket Australia suspend majority of administrative staff amid coronavirus crisis

Well.. the other boards (including the BCCI) may also follow this, as they don't have any other choice available. But the Australian board will be in big trouble, if they have to cancel the test series against India. Bilateral series against India is huge, and it has the potential to boost the CA coffers by up to $200 million. But if they have to cancel it, then the board will be in serious financial trouble.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on April 03, 2020, 04:27:04 PM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 03, 2020, 01:26:30 PM

So where will this deduction in salary goes ?
Whether it will be deposited to any covid-19 relief funds or they will be the savings for the respective cricket boards ? Also i believe players voluntarily gives their part of salary to gain the fame.

Many players have donated amount to relief funds and other charity organization but what transparency we have after that, is it reaching the correct place and till now i am yet to see any transparent NGO on how they are making use of the funds they are collecting.

Quote from: Indymoney on April 03, 2020, 03:27:35 PM

This season is going to be very tough for many young players as we have dozens of players those spend mostly these days in England counties and leagues for good salaries but its now announcesd this season is going to be cancelled and these players are suffering badly even many big boards also have troubles and now in talk with players for cut of salaries.

It is a difficult period for anyone, pay cut will not have a big difference for sports person as they are earning a good amount of money than the average and above average population, when the whole world is taking a big toll then these entertainers can burden some considering that millions of below average people are going through.

But does this news indicates that Australian cricket board is firing some of their administrative staffs due to coronavirus ?

Cricket Australia suspend majority of administrative staff amid coronavirus crisis

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 03, 2020, 01:26:30 PM

So where will this deduction in salary goes ?
Whether it will be deposited to any covid-19 relief funds or they will be the savings for the respective cricket boards ? Also i believe players voluntarily gives their part of salary to gain the fame.

Many players have donated amount to relief funds and other charity organization but what transparency we have after that, is it reaching the correct place and till now i am yet to see any transparent NGO on how they are making use of the funds they are collecting.

Quote from: Indymoney on April 03, 2020, 03:27:35 PM

This season is going to be very tough for many young players as we have dozens of players those spend mostly these days in England counties and leagues for good salaries but its now announcesd this season is going to be cancelled and these players are suffering badly even many big boards also have troubles and now in talk with players for cut of salaries.

It is a difficult period for anyone, pay cut will not have a big difference for sports person as they are earning a good amount of money than the average and above average population, when the whole world is taking a big toll then these entertainers can burden some considering that millions of below average people are going through.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 03, 2020, 02:27:37 PM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 03, 2020, 01:26:30 PM

So where will this deduction in salary goes ?
Whether it will be deposited to any covid-19 relief funds or they will be the savings for the respective cricket boards ? Also i believe players voluntarily gives their part of salary to gain the fame.

I really doubt whether the reduction in salary will be used anywhere else. First of all, there is a huge revenue loss for all of the major cricket boards as a result of cancellation and postponement of the tournaments. So there is a sharp decline in the revenue for starters. And this cut in revenue will be reflected in the salaries of the players as well. It's not like the boards are earning good amounts and not passing on the benefits to the players.

This season is going to be very tough for many young players as we have dozens of players those spend mostly these days in England counties and leagues for good salaries but its now announcesd this season is going to be cancelled and these players are suffering badly even many big boards also have troubles and now in talk with players for cut of salaries.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 03, 2020, 01:26:30 PM

So where will this deduction in salary goes ?
Whether it will be deposited to any covid-19 relief funds or they will be the savings for the respective cricket boards ? Also i believe players voluntarily gives their part of salary to gain the fame.

I really doubt whether the reduction in salary will be used anywhere else. First of all, there is a huge revenue loss for all of the major cricket boards as a result of cancellation and postponement of the tournaments. So there is a sharp decline in the revenue for starters. And this cut in revenue will be reflected in the salaries of the players as well. It's not like the boards are earning good amounts and not passing on the benefits to the players.

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This all happening just because of Boards sack not for helping any covid most of Cricket boards and sports councils facing some serious financial problems so they are asking players and managers for cut in salaries as many soccer clubs already announces and now cricket boards also talking with players and related management.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on April 03, 2020, 12:51:41 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on April 03, 2020, 12:48:58 PM

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Quote from: vella85 on March 31, 2020, 06:51:22 PM

Players getting paid is going to be a worry for many sports associations around the world including cricket players. The England Cricket Board is going to have some big problems in coming days and the same with the Australian Cricket Board. Like I have mentioned in other sports threads, the economy is going to play a big part in all sports after this virus is over, that's what we all should be worried about right now as we may see some sports teams never return after this, remember that money runs all the sports around the world and this has taken a big hit for many sports associations so we could see some not return.

Well... why should the sports players be given special treatment? Here in India, many of the states have asked the government employees to forfeit one month's salary. With the economy in deathbed, there is no other option. Private companies are laying off excess staff and millions are without a job now. I don't think that cricket players can be immune to all this. They need to forfeit some of their earnings.

I am not sure how this can be done in India. People in my country are given the option to send few days salary to the coronavirus fund and not all of the salary is detected without permission. Since players have an yearly contract, so they will be paid what is in the contract, regardless of whether they have matches to play or not.

As we’re discussing about wages I would like to bring to your attention that many big stars including Ronaldo has to take a pay cut due to this virus, and I believe that even big cricket stars will be forced to take a pay cut. Now this sounds easy on paper but in reality it’s complicated, as the board will have to decide whether there’s a blanket cut for all, or each contract is taken separately and then they cut that players wages.

https://talksport.com/football/688553/coronavirus-cristiano-ronaldo-and-juventus-teammates-pay-cut/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/coronavirus-england-cricket-stars-ready-21796282

Th players understand this all so they are doing their contribution through pay cut today I was reading that Cricket Australia and Australian Cricketers Association already reach on some agreement about cut in pays and ECB is also going to talk like this in coming days as this year England domestic and International both seasons in limbo.

So where will this deduction in salary goes ?
Whether it will be deposited to any covid-19 relief funds or they will be the savings for the respective cricket boards ? Also i believe players voluntarily gives their part of salary to gain the fame.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 03, 2020, 12:48:58 PM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on April 03, 2020, 02:55:41 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 02, 2020, 12:24:19 PM

Quote from: vella85 on March 31, 2020, 06:51:22 PM

Players getting paid is going to be a worry for many sports associations around the world including cricket players. The England Cricket Board is going to have some big problems in coming days and the same with the Australian Cricket Board. Like I have mentioned in other sports threads, the economy is going to play a big part in all sports after this virus is over, that's what we all should be worried about right now as we may see some sports teams never return after this, remember that money runs all the sports around the world and this has taken a big hit for many sports associations so we could see some not return.

Well... why should the sports players be given special treatment? Here in India, many of the states have asked the government employees to forfeit one month's salary. With the economy in deathbed, there is no other option. Private companies are laying off excess staff and millions are without a job now. I don't think that cricket players can be immune to all this. They need to forfeit some of their earnings.

I am not sure how this can be done in India. People in my country are given the option to send few days salary to the coronavirus fund and not all of the salary is detected without permission. Since players have an yearly contract, so they will be paid what is in the contract, regardless of whether they have matches to play or not.

As we’re discussing about wages I would like to bring to your attention that many big stars including Ronaldo has to take a pay cut due to this virus, and I believe that even big cricket stars will be forced to take a pay cut. Now this sounds easy on paper but in reality it’s complicated, as the board will have to decide whether there’s a blanket cut for all, or each contract is taken separately and then they cut that players wages.

https://talksport.com/football/688553/coronavirus-cristiano-ronaldo-and-juventus-teammates-pay-cut/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/coronavirus-england-cricket-stars-ready-21796282

Th players understand this all so they are doing their contribution through pay cut today I was reading that Cricket Australia and Australian Cricketers Association already reach on some agreement about cut in pays and ECB is also going to talk like this in coming days as this year England domestic and International both seasons in limbo.

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