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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 02, 2015, 06:27:20 AM

I don't like the sound of this, seems like foul play to me. Like dooglus said I definitely think you should inform the site first before you start trying to sell it to people on here. The site will have a lot to lose if this is genuine so they're likely to offer a lot more as they'll see it as some kind of bounty. I guess they'd pay handsomely for you to keep quiet about it so it gives them chance to fix or remove it.
Please don't be vindictive & attempt to ruin whatever site it is.

i will likely be informing the site with dooglus' confirmation, people here are way too skeptical and angry, more so angry.

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No, it is impossible imo, I have won over 10btc from dice site, but I know i will lose all in the long term, so I decided to quit it, and keep the profits, that's the best choice, but you said +EV is possible, I don't think so cos the house has 1% edge, so they can earn lots of money in the long term if the wager amount is huge, it is easy for casinos get +EV, but impossible for us. That's the truth.

IMO you just got lucky so u think it is +EV method, but I said I have won 10btc from dice site, but is is also +EV right? But in the end all +EV methods will be -EV, and lost ALL. Grin

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 02, 2015, 05:26:30 AM

Quote from: FanEagle on July 02, 2015, 05:21:58 AM

If it's really that +EV then make 50 btc, then come here and share a 10 btc wealth to us. You won't even need to sell the method.

OP sounds like the sellers of e-books detailing the acquisition of free money Cool

I'm not promising any wins or free money, just something that allows an edge.

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I don't like the sound of this, seems like foul play to me. Like dooglus said I definitely think you should inform the site first before you start trying to sell it to people on here. The site will have a lot to lose if this is genuine so they're likely to offer a lot more as they'll see it as some kind of bounty. I guess they'd pay handsomely for you to keep quiet about it so it gives them chance to fix or remove it.
Please don't be vindictive & attempt to ruin whatever site it is.

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Quote from: boopy265420 on July 02, 2015, 06:17:17 AM

After having read the dooglus posts it seems that you really have something but I would wait to see what dooglus says after checking it.If he says it is really +EV then it will not be bad deal so far.It might be some bug what you have discovered but better wait and see some positive feedback.

its ok

the world is not ending

i am awake and have pmed dooglus.

~~back to sleep for me~~

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Quote from: boopy265420 on July 02, 2015, 06:17:17 AM

After having read the dooglus posts it seems that you really have something but I would wait to see what dooglus says after checking it.If he says it is really +EV then it will not be bad deal so far.It might be some bug what you have discovered but better wait and see some positive feedback.

Not sure but seems the site he mentions dadice could still be rigging it. So a method along that lines might not be that worthy .

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After having read the dooglus posts it seems that you really have something but I would wait to see what dooglus says after checking it.If he says it is really +EV then it will not be bad deal so far.It might be some bug what you have discovered but better wait and see some positive feedback.

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 02, 2015, 05:26:30 AM

Quote from: FanEagle on July 02, 2015, 05:21:58 AM

If it's really that +EV then make 50 btc, then come here and share a 10 btc wealth to us. You won't even need to sell the method.

OP sounds like the sellers of e-books detailing the acquisition of free money Cool

c'mon Wen, give OP a break, he needs the cash to invest in a project that he has with a caribbean government department to supply green energy

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Quote from: FanEagle on July 02, 2015, 05:21:58 AM

If it's really that +EV then make 50 btc, then come here and share a 10 btc wealth to us. You won't even need to sell the method.

OP sounds like the sellers of e-books detailing the acquisition of free money Cool

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Erm I can give it for free.Go to www.coinbet.ag create an account reach at least Gold 2 level and after that you will get a 1.1% loss back and a 0.11% bet back I haven't made the calculations on this level but I am pretty sure it's +EV on master rank(at least from my 2 second calculations).

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If it's really that +EV then make 50 btc, then come here and share a 10 btc wealth to us. You won't even need to sell the method.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 01, 2015, 11:24:59 PM

as in the title. im fairly sure I found a +EV method for a particular dice site, if someone like dooglus would pm me to confirm for this I would consider selling this bit of info to a few people. just being +EV goes not guarantee massive profits because this is gambling after all, but it is +EV. this does not involve martingale whatsoever.

are you sure about this 100% winning strategy on dice sites where the house edge exists Wink

it is much hard to defeat the site bankroll with any strategy at dice site because only luck is the secret strategy to win for a timely period but in long run you will lose all your profit with your original amount too.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 01, 2015, 11:24:59 PM

as in the title. im fairly sure I found a +EV method for a particular dice site, if someone like dooglus would pm me to confirm for this I would consider selling this bit of info to a few people. just being +EV goes not guarantee massive profits because this is gambling after all, but it is +EV. this does not involve martingale whatsoever.

I am in great shocked to hear this one Shocked

you are going the sell your secret just for few satoshis, you can make bankrupt to any dice site with your 101% guaranteed win win formula but honestly i dont believe in your words and i will advice people to stay away from this thread if they are thinking to pay for this ancient technique. Cheesy

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 01, 2015, 11:24:59 PM

as in the title. im fairly sure I found a +EV method for a particular dice site, if someone like dooglus would pm me to confirm for this I would consider selling this bit of info to a few people. just being +EV goes not guarantee massive profits because this is gambling after all, but it is +EV. this does not involve martingale whatsoever.

Considering you're willing to sell the method it doesn't seem as highly profitable as the buyer might think since otherwise you would just use the method on you're own.

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If its not an exploit, does it mean that you are confident about site owners knowing about, and wont be 'fixing' it upon noticing?

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Quote from: dooglus on July 02, 2015, 02:42:28 AM

Right, and he also said it doesn't involve a jackpot.

Also he claimed that this is not a betting strategy so I can only think of one thing and that is exploit or found a flaw in a website. Also that he keep on saying in this particular website so it is something like a flaw on the website.

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 02, 2015, 01:05:21 AM

it's not some betting strategy like Martingale, it's just that on this particular site, it is possible to get an edge.

Quote from: toy4lov3rs on July 02, 2015, 02:45:32 AM

if it really is and the site in question does not accept paying you for it then I will make an offer for sure.

I would pay handsomely as well if dooglus acknowledge it and the site doesnt pay you a good amount. I wonder what this particular website is, must be some sort of not so popular website

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+EV create a thread and respond to every post singly Tongue

That aside I would be interested of course as most would be but I'll wait for dooglus to see whats up, if it really is and the site in question does not accept paying you for it then I will make an offer for sure.

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Quote from: dooglus on July 02, 2015, 02:42:28 AM

Quote from: Twipple on July 02, 2015, 02:38:30 AM

But that will only be the case with sites which have a fault in them and the person is exploiting that flaw. The method on its own wouldn't be +EV , and since substrata already mentioned that it doesn't involve taking advantage of a flaw, we can rule that out.

Right, and he also said it doesn't involve a jackpot. Sometimes jackpots can be +EV for the player - maybe it's being paid out of the site's pocket as a promotion, or maybe it's a progressive pot that fills over time from other players making losing bets.

But if there's no flaw and no jackpot then I don't see where the +EV is going to come from.

Yes.
By the way he did say he sent you a PM .

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 02, 2015, 01:29:47 AM

I'll send him a pm.

edit: sent, seems hes online so now we wait.

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Quote from: Twipple on July 02, 2015, 02:38:30 AM

But that will only be the case with sites which have a fault in them and the person is exploiting that flaw. The method on its own wouldn't be +EV , and since substrata already mentioned that it doesn't involve taking advantage of a flaw, we can rule that out.

Right, and he also said it doesn't involve a jackpot. Sometimes jackpots can be +EV for the player - maybe it's being paid out of the site's pocket as a promotion, or maybe it's a progressive pot that fills over time from other players making losing bets.

But if there's no flaw and no jackpot then I don't see where the +EV is going to come from.

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Quote from: dooglus on July 02, 2015, 02:22:59 AM

Edit2: Lots of people are saying it's not possible to find a +EV strategy. I wouldn't be so sure. There can be all kinds of problems with the implementation of a dice game. PRC dice used to roll high numbers more often than low numbers due to a bug, and so it was possible to have a +EV game just by rolling 'hi' every time. I can imagine a game where your payout is rounded up to the nearest satoshi rather than down, such that a 60% bet ends up paying 2x for small bets. That would be +EV. And so on.

But that will only be the case with sites which have a fault in them and the person is exploiting that flaw. The method on its own wouldn't be +EV , and since substrata already mentioned that it doesn't involve taking advantage of a flaw, we can rule that out.

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