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joter85
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 08:15:31 AM
#132
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 08:13:57 AM
Quote from: Emerge on July 03, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: Quickseller on July 03, 2015, 08:01:38 AM
I am not even sure that I would trust the site to pay out large wins that a +EV strategy would result in. The site is very new, has a tiny bankroll, and is acting very unprofessionally.

big point here; even if they decide to pay out, their decisions in handling this entire matter were questionable at best, announcing their site as the subject of this thread was probably the biggest mistake, this is a lose-lose situation for them now.

Yeah, and it's not only them at risk, but also investor's money.
Them being "confident" is totally going to bring a lot of people down.

Time to take a couple of last looks at the site lol.

great point, after this, their site is dead regardless of the outcome. inviting people to come and dump your bankroll and not even consulting with your investors? that's some special publicity right there.

How do you know we didn't notify our investors? Did you ask them? We have notified every single investor on site. They have chance to withdraw their funds any time they want.
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 08:13:57 AM
#131
Quote from: Emerge on July 03, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: Quickseller on July 03, 2015, 08:01:38 AM
I am not even sure that I would trust the site to pay out large wins that a +EV strategy would result in. The site is very new, has a tiny bankroll, and is acting very unprofessionally.

big point here; even if they decide to pay out, their decisions in handling this entire matter were questionable at best, announcing their site as the subject of this thread was probably the biggest mistake, this is a lose-lose situation for them now.

Yeah, and it's not only them at risk, but also investor's money.
Them being "confident" is totally going to bring a lot of people down.

Time to take a couple of last looks at the site lol.

great point, after this, their site is dead regardless of the outcome. inviting people to come and dump your bankroll and not even consulting with your investors? that's some special publicity right there.
Emerge
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
#130
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: Quickseller on July 03, 2015, 08:01:38 AM
I am not even sure that I would trust the site to pay out large wins that a +EV strategy would result in. The site is very new, has a tiny bankroll, and is acting very unprofessionally.

big point here; even if they decide to pay out, their decisions in handling this entire matter were questionable at best, announcing their site as the subject of this thread was probably the biggest mistake, this is a lose-lose situation for them now.

Yeah, and it's not only them at risk, but also investor's money.
Them being "confident" is totally going to bring a lot of people down.

Time to take a couple of last looks at the site lol.
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
#129
Quote from: Quickseller on July 03, 2015, 08:01:38 AM
I am not even sure that I would trust the site to pay out large wins that a +EV strategy would result in. The site is very new, has a tiny bankroll, and is acting very unprofessionally.

big point here; even if they decide to pay out, their decisions in handling this entire matter were questionable at best, announcing their site as the subject of this thread was probably the biggest mistake, this is a lose-lose situation for them now.
joter85
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 08:01:59 AM
#128
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:57:00 AM
Quote from: Emerge on July 03, 2015, 07:47:57 AM
Lol. Foolish remark on Crypto-Games' side. A bug or an exploit shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when it involves money.

@subSTRATA make it rain when you prove this cocky admin wrong Wink

I agree because even the almighty PD were a user was able to exploit their system but for now its time to grab some popcorns and watch how this goes Cheesy

Yeah maybe grab something bigger, as its gonna take a long time I guess Wink
Quickseller
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 08:01:38 AM
#127
I am not even sure that I would trust the site to pay out large wins that a +EV strategy would result in. The site is very new, has a tiny bankroll, and is acting very unprofessionally.
waterpile
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:57:00 AM
#126
Quote from: Emerge on July 03, 2015, 07:47:57 AM
Lol. Foolish remark on Crypto-Games' side. A bug or an exploit shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when it involves money.

@subSTRATA make it rain when you prove this cocky admin wrong Wink

I agree because even the almighty PD were a user was able to exploit their system but for now its time to grab some popcorns and watch how this goes Cheesy
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:55:42 AM
#125
Quote from: joter85 on July 03, 2015, 07:49:32 AM
Quote from: Emerge on July 03, 2015, 07:47:57 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
Quote from: joter85 on July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
What if they found about it and got fixed it ASAP then the method will become pointless/useless this may cause a problem in your part Subtrata.
thats true, but judging from his hostility the admin is hes scrambling to find it and panicking. ive already offered just 1 BTC to give the details of the bug allowing for +EV bets, and another .5 BTC for a more serious bug found by dooglus. the implications of the second bug will not be disclosed for obvious reasons, but given the severity of these bugs, id think the price offered was completely reasonable. im fine with accepting the offer given, but that's not up to me; dooglus holds the details regarding the second bug ad i believe he has gone to sleep for the time being. until then, this is up for grabs. if dooglus is fine with accepting the proposed deal, so am i, but after this, i really have a negative impression of the site's admin in regards to professionalism and trust.
until dooglus gives me word that he is fine with this, its up for discussion, but either way, i will be giving dooglus a percentage share of the bounty for his immense help with this issue.

We are pretty confident in our code. We log many different hack attempts every day.

Exploit it please, and earn 1 btc. When you do we are willing to pay you 1.5btc extra to tell us about it. We are tired of this lame scam attempts. We get mails of exploits weekly, but no one proved or steal anything. Only reason why we offered you any amount is because you have others users backing you up.


if you dont believe dooglus's words, then i honestly think you guys are extremely cocky, we have confirmed that it is possible to get an edge playing on the site. I was trying to keep your guys's identity hidden, but you up and came out with it yourself, let the free-for all begin i guess.

Lol. Foolish remark on Crypto-Games' side. A bug or an exploit shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when it involves money.

@subSTRATA make it rain when you prove this cocky admin wrong Wink

Yeah make that 1 btc you got rain. When you do, we'll talk with you further. Till then good luck.

ill consider that as an invitation for me and dooglus, we'll start when hes awake.
joter85
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:49:32 AM
#124
Quote from: Emerge on July 03, 2015, 07:47:57 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
Quote from: joter85 on July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
What if they found about it and got fixed it ASAP then the method will become pointless/useless this may cause a problem in your part Subtrata.
thats true, but judging from his hostility the admin is hes scrambling to find it and panicking. ive already offered just 1 BTC to give the details of the bug allowing for +EV bets, and another .5 BTC for a more serious bug found by dooglus. the implications of the second bug will not be disclosed for obvious reasons, but given the severity of these bugs, id think the price offered was completely reasonable. im fine with accepting the offer given, but that's not up to me; dooglus holds the details regarding the second bug ad i believe he has gone to sleep for the time being. until then, this is up for grabs. if dooglus is fine with accepting the proposed deal, so am i, but after this, i really have a negative impression of the site's admin in regards to professionalism and trust.
until dooglus gives me word that he is fine with this, its up for discussion, but either way, i will be giving dooglus a percentage share of the bounty for his immense help with this issue.

We are pretty confident in our code. We log many different hack attempts every day.

Exploit it please, and earn 1 btc. When you do we are willing to pay you 1.5btc extra to tell us about it. We are tired of this lame scam attempts. We get mails of exploits weekly, but no one proved or steal anything. Only reason why we offered you any amount is because you have others users backing you up.


if you dont believe dooglus's words, then i honestly think you guys are extremely cocky, we have confirmed that it is possible to get an edge playing on the site. I was trying to keep your guys's identity hidden, but you up and came out with it yourself, let the free-for all begin i guess.

Lol. Foolish remark on Crypto-Games' side. A bug or an exploit shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when it involves money.

@subSTRATA make it rain when you prove this cocky admin wrong Wink

Yeah make that 1 btc you got rain. When you do, we'll talk with you further. Till then good luck.
Emerge
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:47:57 AM
#123
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
Quote from: joter85 on July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
What if they found about it and got fixed it ASAP then the method will become pointless/useless this may cause a problem in your part Subtrata.
thats true, but judging from his hostility the admin is hes scrambling to find it and panicking. ive already offered just 1 BTC to give the details of the bug allowing for +EV bets, and another .5 BTC for a more serious bug found by dooglus. the implications of the second bug will not be disclosed for obvious reasons, but given the severity of these bugs, id think the price offered was completely reasonable. im fine with accepting the offer given, but that's not up to me; dooglus holds the details regarding the second bug ad i believe he has gone to sleep for the time being. until then, this is up for grabs. if dooglus is fine with accepting the proposed deal, so am i, but after this, i really have a negative impression of the site's admin in regards to professionalism and trust.
until dooglus gives me word that he is fine with this, its up for discussion, but either way, i will be giving dooglus a percentage share of the bounty for his immense help with this issue.

We are pretty confident in our code. We log many different hack attempts every day.

Exploit it please, and earn 1 btc. When you do we are willing to pay you 1.5btc extra to tell us about it. We are tired of this lame scam attempts. We get mails of exploits weekly, but no one proved or steal anything. Only reason why we offered you any amount is because you have others users backing you up.

if you dont believe dooglus's words, then i honestly think you guys are extremely cocky, we have confirmed that it is possible to get an edge playing on the site. I was trying to keep your guys's identity hidden, but you up and came out with it yourself, let the free-for all begin i guess.

Lol. Foolish remark on Crypto-Games' side. A bug or an exploit shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when it involves money.

@subSTRATA make it rain when you prove this cocky admin wrong Wink
joter85
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:47:45 AM
#122
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
Quote from: joter85 on July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
What if they found about it and got fixed it ASAP then the method will become pointless/useless this may cause a problem in your part Subtrata.
thats true, but judging from his hostility the admin is hes scrambling to find it and panicking. ive already offered just 1 BTC to give the details of the bug allowing for +EV bets, and another .5 BTC for a more serious bug found by dooglus. the implications of the second bug will not be disclosed for obvious reasons, but given the severity of these bugs, id think the price offered was completely reasonable. im fine with accepting the offer given, but that's not up to me; dooglus holds the details regarding the second bug ad i believe he has gone to sleep for the time being. until then, this is up for grabs. if dooglus is fine with accepting the proposed deal, so am i, but after this, i really have a negative impression of the site's admin in regards to professionalism and trust.
until dooglus gives me word that he is fine with this, its up for discussion, but either way, i will be giving dooglus a percentage share of the bounty for his immense help with this issue.

We are pretty confident in our code. We log many different hack attempts every day.

Exploit it please, and earn 1 btc. When you do we are willing to pay you 1.5btc extra to tell us about it. We are tired of this lame scam attempts. We get mails of exploits weekly, but no one proved or steal anything. Only reason why we offered you any amount is because you have others users backing you up.


if you dont believe dooglus's words, then i honestly think you guys are extremely cocky, we have confirmed that it is possible to get an edge playing on the site. I was trying to keep your guys's identity hidden, but you up and came out with it yourself, let the free-for all begin i guess.

As I said if it is serious bug worth any money, then you can get a lot more. If it isn't serious then we won't waste any money on it. When you earn 1 btc with it we can make a deal and pay you 1.5 btc as you asked. Till then we are not interested in it.
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:45:28 AM
#121
Quote from: joter85 on July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
What if they found about it and got fixed it ASAP then the method will become pointless/useless this may cause a problem in your part Subtrata.
thats true, but judging from his hostility the admin is hes scrambling to find it and panicking. ive already offered just 1 BTC to give the details of the bug allowing for +EV bets, and another .5 BTC for a more serious bug found by dooglus. the implications of the second bug will not be disclosed for obvious reasons, but given the severity of these bugs, id think the price offered was completely reasonable. im fine with accepting the offer given, but that's not up to me; dooglus holds the details regarding the second bug ad i believe he has gone to sleep for the time being. until then, this is up for grabs. if dooglus is fine with accepting the proposed deal, so am i, but after this, i really have a negative impression of the site's admin in regards to professionalism and trust.
until dooglus gives me word that he is fine with this, its up for discussion, but either way, i will be giving dooglus a percentage share of the bounty for his immense help with this issue.

We are pretty confident in our code. We log many different hack attempts every day.

Exploit it please, and earn 1 btc. When you do we are willing to pay you 1.5btc extra to tell us about it. We are tired of this lame scam attempts. We get mails of exploits weekly, but no one proved or steal anything. Only reason why we offered you any amount is because you have others users backing you up.

if you dont believe dooglus's words, then i honestly think you guys are extremely cocky, we have confirmed that it is possible to get an edge playing on the site. I was trying to keep your guys's identity hidden, but you up and came out with it yourself, let the free-for all begin i guess.
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
#120
Quote from: treweret on July 03, 2015, 07:41:28 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:19:34 AM
Quote from: treweret on July 03, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:52:08 AM
Quote from: xetsr on July 03, 2015, 06:50:50 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:49:17 AM
the admin of the site seems rather hostile and is trying to rip both me and dooglus off, demanding a lower bounty for the deal, i am entertaining offers in this thread or through pm regarding this. a percentage of this will be paid to dooglus for his help in confirming this issue.

kind of like blackmail? they don't pay up so you sell the exploit?
"heres my price take it or leave it lolol fk off" is basically the tone im getting from this guy. he seems rather hostile, which is dissuading me from helping his site out, which i believe the price I asked for for two very serious bugs was completely reasonable.

how large is this site? How much is the max win?

im not heartless; im not going to give any details as to what the site is.

you expect people to give you offers. if its a casino with a max win of 0.01btc then good luck getting 5btc for this

the max win is a lot more than that. its possible to get a lot more than 5 BTC potentially.
joter85
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
#119
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
What if they found about it and got fixed it ASAP then the method will become pointless/useless this may cause a problem in your part Subtrata.
thats true, but judging from his hostility the admin is hes scrambling to find it and panicking. ive already offered just 1 BTC to give the details of the bug allowing for +EV bets, and another .5 BTC for a more serious bug found by dooglus. the implications of the second bug will not be disclosed for obvious reasons, but given the severity of these bugs, id think the price offered was completely reasonable. im fine with accepting the offer given, but that's not up to me; dooglus holds the details regarding the second bug ad i believe he has gone to sleep for the time being. until then, this is up for grabs. if dooglus is fine with accepting the proposed deal, so am i, but after this, i really have a negative impression of the site's admin in regards to professionalism and trust.
until dooglus gives me word that he is fine with this, its up for discussion, but either way, i will be giving dooglus a percentage share of the bounty for his immense help with this issue.

We are pretty confident in our code. We log many different hack attempts every day.

Exploit it please, and earn 1 btc. When you do we are willing to pay you 1.5btc extra to tell us about it. We are tired of this lame scam attempts. We get mails of exploits weekly, but no one proved or steal anything. Only reason why we offered you any amount is because you have others users backing you up.
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:43:05 AM
#118
Quote from: waterpile on July 03, 2015, 07:39:08 AM
Quote from: treweret on July 03, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:52:08 AM
Quote from: xetsr on July 03, 2015, 06:50:50 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:49:17 AM
the admin of the site seems rather hostile and is trying to rip both me and dooglus off, demanding a lower bounty for the deal, i am entertaining offers in this thread or through pm regarding this. a percentage of this will be paid to dooglus for his help in confirming this issue.

kind of like blackmail? they don't pay up so you sell the exploit?
"heres my price take it or leave it lolol fk off" is basically the tone im getting from this guy. he seems rather hostile, which is dissuading me from helping his site out, which i believe the price I asked for for two very serious bugs was completely reasonable.

how large is this site? How much is the max win?

You already have a clue, a site that can't pay up 1-.5BTC offer lol..  IMO subtrata's offer is generous if this were from a professional site they could pay him alot more for finding it.

judging from the language used, the admin of the site completely distrusts me and dooglus at the moment (lol), and im thinking that its more that the admin is unwilling to pay rather than being unable to judging from the language he used.
treweret
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:41:28 AM
#117
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 07:19:34 AM
Quote from: treweret on July 03, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:52:08 AM
Quote from: xetsr on July 03, 2015, 06:50:50 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:49:17 AM
the admin of the site seems rather hostile and is trying to rip both me and dooglus off, demanding a lower bounty for the deal, i am entertaining offers in this thread or through pm regarding this. a percentage of this will be paid to dooglus for his help in confirming this issue.

kind of like blackmail? they don't pay up so you sell the exploit?
"heres my price take it or leave it lolol fk off" is basically the tone im getting from this guy. he seems rather hostile, which is dissuading me from helping his site out, which i believe the price I asked for for two very serious bugs was completely reasonable.

how large is this site? How much is the max win?

im not heartless; im not going to give any details as to what the site is.

you expect people to give you offers. if its a casino with a max win of 0.01btc then good luck getting 5btc for this
waterpile
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:39:08 AM
#116
Quote from: treweret on July 03, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:52:08 AM
Quote from: xetsr on July 03, 2015, 06:50:50 AM
Quote from: subSTRATA on July 03, 2015, 06:49:17 AM
the admin of the site seems rather hostile and is trying to rip both me and dooglus off, demanding a lower bounty for the deal, i am entertaining offers in this thread or through pm regarding this. a percentage of this will be paid to dooglus for his help in confirming this issue.

kind of like blackmail? they don't pay up so you sell the exploit?
"heres my price take it or leave it lolol fk off" is basically the tone im getting from this guy. he seems rather hostile, which is dissuading me from helping his site out, which i believe the price I asked for for two very serious bugs was completely reasonable.

how large is this site? How much is the max win?

You already have a clue, a site that can't pay up 1-.5BTC offer lol..  IMO subtrata's offer is generous if this were from a professional site they could pay him alot more for finding it.
FanEagle
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:38:26 AM
#115
And the site owner is sweating his pants off for finding himself the bug.. 32% it's quite big!
subSTRATA
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:23:11 AM
#114
Quote from: Havelivi on July 03, 2015, 07:19:42 AM
I heard this awesome news +EV is possible and this is very serious kind of bug but i would like to know more details about this bug how long it will take time to get in profit if someone get starting at any dice site from big bankroll.

32+% edge in favor of the player is no joke. and i mean really, thats pretty serious; thats like getting a 2x bet on a roll higher than 34 or lower than 66. i personally think something like this is worth far more than just 1 BTC. its not something that noticeable from the back end either, no doubt the admin is now monitoring this thread and everything i say Roll Eyes

as for details, its gambling after all, profit is to be expected but it all depends on bankroll management and how much resources youre willing to dedicate to abusing this.

even if this is somehow found and patched, its no loss to me; this isnt something i expected to find, and its not like i had anything to lose in the first place. if anything, ill take it as a lesson that these exploits are out there, even with all these improvements to dice scripts, and ill take it on myself to maybe find more of these such bugs and help out their casino owners.
Havelivi
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Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors!
July 03, 2015, 07:19:42 AM
#113
I heard this awesome news +EV is possible and this is very serious kind of bug but i would like to know more details about this bug how long it will take time to get in profit if someone get starting at any dice site from big bankroll.
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