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Topic: Crypto stuck in sports betting site, now they want KYC - page 2. (Read 1073 times)

legendary
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Locked accounts usually don't get any replies. I honestly don't think you can get $1200 back. Of course, you have to try your luck to the fullest. Hope you can get your money back.

Depends on the site. If it's those unpopular websites, expect that there will be no fair judgment on the case. Those sites will not give $1,200 in just a simple KYC as a solution. If it's involved legit and popular websites, as long as everything turned good on their investigation, the chances of getting that amount are high.

OP never mentioned the name of the site. Only if we know it, we might contribute to pressuring the site if we see it's unfair.
^ It seems a loophole to the unpopular gambling casino, if you violated the rules they have a reason to lock your account and forfeited your balance without knowing you and you did not receive even any single response. However, it is opposite to the reputable gambling casino, probably KYC is a part to boost their users for legalities which are following government protocol by having a full KYC procedure.
Nevertheless, for the large amount, this will always be expecting that there is KYC, that is why I prefer to read first the TOS before using any gambling platform casino which gives you a knowledge towards their TOS.

A story always has two sides. But what strikes me most is that casinos and other gambling sites make their terms and conditions in such a way that they can always hide behind camouflaged points that then apply. An example is the registration process, if you come from a certain country you are not allowed to register, but the website to register is available. You can then ask yourself who is wrong. Would everyone these days read every condition from A to Z? I do not think so. It is also a matter of trust and reputation.

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hero member
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Locked accounts usually don't get any replies. I honestly don't think you can get $1200 back. Of course, you have to try your luck to the fullest. Hope you can get your money back.

Depends on the site. If it's those unpopular websites, expect that there will be no fair judgment on the case. Those sites will not give $1,200 in just a simple KYC as a solution. If it's involved legit and popular websites, as long as everything turned good on their investigation, the chances of getting that amount are high.

OP never mentioned the name of the site. Only if we know it, we might contribute to pressuring the site if we see it's unfair.
^ It seems a loophole to the unpopular gambling casino, if you violated the rules they have a reason to lock your account and forfeited your balance without knowing you and you did not receive even any single response. However, it is opposite to the reputable gambling casino, probably KYC is a part to boost their users for legalities which are following government protocol by having a full KYC procedure.
Nevertheless, for the large amount, this will always be expecting that there is KYC, that is why I prefer to read first the TOS before using any gambling platform casino which gives you a knowledge towards their TOS.
legendary
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Locked accounts usually don't get any replies. I honestly don't think you can get $1200 back. Of course, you have to try your luck to the fullest. Hope you can get your money back.

Depends on the site. If it's those unpopular websites, expect that there will be no fair judgment on the case. Those sites will not give $1,200 in just a simple KYC as a solution. If it's involved legit and popular websites, as long as everything turned good on their investigation, the chances of getting that amount are high.

OP never mentioned the name of the site. Only if we know it, we might contribute to pressuring the site if we see it's unfair.
legendary
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What I've experienced with bad money that we get with the KYC rules has become a common thing. I've experienced things like this on gambling websites. the account that was said recently is still bronze level, but luck came to me at that time 4300$ from the dice bet. I want to withdraw it but it is held for a day, the conditions must be kyc first. after kyc finished the withdrawal was successful
Since casinos have different operators this means that despite having similar policies casinos can treat two similar circumstances in a completely different manner, there are some casinos that will not force you to reveal your personal information over such a small win, but there are others that will, now the amount of money trapped in the account of the one that started this thread is even smaller than that, but since he tried to deceive the casino so many times then it is understandable they want him to reveal their identity to them.
hero member
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Some sports betting site now need to KYC but you still have thousand trusted site without KYC, I join on several site from Stake until several casino game without have to KYC but some time upload document needed when get problem with access to my account only, for playing game and put betting is not always have site need to upload KYC you can find oldest sport betting site without have to include your document, maybe not all want to use his document for gambling site.
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Locked accounts usually don't get any replies. I honestly don't think you can get $1200 back. Of course, you have to try your luck to the fullest. Hope you can get your money back.
Not most of the time but this is entirely dependent on the website itself as some of them has a bad customer service especially when it comes to gambling platform. There are platforms that are very active especially on customer service and I already experienced both things.
Some may take only a few days to reply but some of them takes ages for you to receive response. Even good gambling platforms has bad customer service but not all of them. So better to gamble on platform that has good customer especially for withdrawal purposes.
hero member
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Locked accounts usually don't get any replies. I honestly don't think you can get $1200 back. Of course, you have to try your luck to the fullest. Hope you can get your money back.
If that's the case to all then how can they prove that the locking of an account was just a mistake? I don't think you can't get any reply at all if you're account was locked probably it will just take time until they respond to you and asked for the details. By the way, I guess OPs issue isn't about being locked, it's likely been on hold until he proves that it's legit on his side.
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Locked accounts usually don't get any replies. I honestly don't think you can get $1200 back. Of course, you have to try your luck to the fullest. Hope you can get your money back.
hero member
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Sometimes, we tend to break the TOS just to enjoy gambling despite the restrictions but as we take the risk, we should also keep in mind that our funds aren't in a safe place. 1500 is still a huge amount but to be honest, it would be hard for you to recover it. VPNs aren't that safe these days.
Sometimes gamblers don't really think about the TOS when everyone is about to enjoy.

Everyone is having that thought that it's totally okay to break what's against the casino rules because they've ignored it and thinking that everything is going to be fine.

If it's a big amount that you'll deposit, much better to be aware of the rules like that simple usage of VPN. It's better to ask the representative before using it.
It is true that when people just want to have some fun most of the time they are not thinking about the consequences of their actions, but this is not the case here, according to what I can read in the op he knew that he was not allowed to play in that casino from the beginning and yet he decided to ignore this and do whatever he wanted, and then he tried to deceive the casino several times after that, so it is clear the op is at fault and he will have problems trying to recover the money he had in that account.
legendary
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Just remember for next time though that you want to play on sites that have clear no KYC policies. KYC is a double edged sword - it can very easily be abused.

The problem is, these people choose to play on not popular sites. I'm not saying there will be no problem playing at those sites but it's still good to put trust in those popular ones compare to non-popular. It has a high chance that sites will use the KYC-related problem not to lift the ban of the concerned account.

Unfortunate things really happened and the OP has no choice but to move on now and forget everything.
sr. member
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I dont know if the problem is fixed already but your only choice is to proceed the KYC they're asking. But of course it will leave a great risk since you're already gave them a fake information so you will provide them a fully fake information and its a big no no.
This is the problem on giving fake details, you really have to explain everything to the site so you can be able to access your account again, looks like the problem is still not solve since the thread is still open. Well, I’d rather fill up the KYC than to freeze my account especially with my money still there, if OP can afford to lose the money then abandoning his account is another option.
If OP can afford to leave the money then this thread should not exist in the first place. Most of the sports betting site has the included in the TOS about KYC requirement, and in this case, as long as it's part of the TOS, then OP has nothing to complain about, either he complies or will not get the crypto in his balance.
As simple as that on which he would need to choose up whether he do complies or totally would walk away and find another place to play with.This is a normal situation on which
you do really need to come up with some verification on the times that the house had caught you on violating something into their terms which you should not make yourself
surprise yet you had agreed into those terms on the time that you had registered so there's no excuses i do see on.
hero member
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I'm from the states and have been using a betting website to do some light sports betting. They do not allow US citizens and so I used a VPN to gain access. They only require an email address to create an account, and no KYC unless you want to buy crypto directly from them. I will not name the site for various reasons.

Anyways, sometimes I try to login to the site before setting my VPN and it simply tells me I'm in a restricted area. Never had any issues though, I just flip on the VPN and all good. I've been using this site for about 2 months now. Today I logged in and and it was requesting I input my phone number to proceed. It said I can withdraw funds but services were restricted until I enter my phone number. So I created a fake number from Hong Kong, and entered it in. It sent me a code and I entered it. Little did I know Hong Kong  is also banned from this site (I know I know, I was just in a hurry to place a bet). Now my account is locked and they will not allow me access to even withdraw until I go through full KYC.

I have about $1,200 of BTC in there, nothing crazy. If I KYC myself they will simply say I broke their TOS and lock me out forever (I did the research on this already). KYC consists of ID, recent bills, and photo of yourself holding ID. The only piece of information this site has on me is an email address.

I have friends who have friends in other countries. Some of those friends of friends live in impoverished countries. What's stopping me from using them to KYC my account and then giving them a piece of the stuck funds? I would only need to gain access to retrieve the funds and would not continue to use the account or website.

Is this a good idea and do you think it will work? Worth the $1,200? My only hesitation at this point is asking the friend and they go through the hassle but then it goes sideways and still do not gain access to my account.

That really, really sucks.

I think that your best shot is to honestly own up to your mistake and see if they will budge. Usually, with such a small amount of funds, I don't think that there will be an issue with you getting your funds out.

Just remember for next time though that you want to play on sites that have clear no KYC policies. KYC is a double edged sword - it can very easily be abused.
hero member
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I dont know if the problem is fixed already but your only choice is to proceed the KYC they're asking. But of course it will leave a great risk since you're already gave them a fake information so you will provide them a fully fake information and its a big no no.
This is the problem on giving fake details, you really have to explain everything to the site so you can be able to access your account again, looks like the problem is still not solve since the thread is still open. Well, I’d rather fill up the KYC than to freeze my account especially with my money still there, if OP can afford to lose the money then abandoning his account is another option.
If OP can afford to leave the money then this thread should not exist in the first place. Most of the sports betting site has the included in the TOS about KYC requirement, and in this case, as long as it's part of the TOS, then OP has nothing to complain about, either he complies or will not get the crypto in his balance.
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What I've experienced with bad money that we get with the KYC rules has become a common thing. I've experienced things like this on gambling websites. the account that was said recently is still bronze level, but luck came to me at that time 4300$ from the dice bet. I want to withdraw it but it is held for a day, the conditions must be kyc first. after kyc finished the withdrawal was successful
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I dont know if the problem is fixed already but your only choice is to proceed the KYC they're asking. But of course it will leave a great risk since you're already gave them a fake information so you will provide them a fully fake information and its a big no no.
This is the problem on giving fake details, you really have to explain everything to the site so you can be able to access your account again, looks like the problem is still not solve since the thread is still open. Well, I’d rather fill up the KYC than to freeze my account especially with my money still there, if OP can afford to lose the money then abandoning his account is another option.
legendary
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Did they ask for the KYC when you were depositing funds ? No right most of the times this happens and problem is that you used a VPN ofcourse which will end up against their rules and regulations causing your winnings and everything to go, they won't be allowing you to withdraw anymore as well since this would be against their policies. What you can do is ask some friend of yours from other country where the crypto is legal to do that and this can actually work only if they don't suspect it but then again be would be making the bets on your behalf much like a third party which is again scary to trust regarding so much money.

They have a very flexible rule which is always in their favor.

Actually, they would not care if you are losing, but if they notice that you are making a huge money and that will trigger them to use their TOS to prevent you from winning, it's a kind of cheating on their part but it's not against the law because the gambler is the one who broke rules in the first place.
While there are casinos that do that we need to be honest about this, the one at fault is the one that started this thread, they state they read the terms of service and they knew from the beginning they were not allowed to play at that casino due to their location and then they decided to violate those rules anyway several times, so eventually when the casino found out then they were within their rights to put their account on hold and ask him for his personal data.
legendary
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.

Exactly.

Even though OP has friends in other countries where it is legal, I doubt that the gambling site he was talking about will let it slide. Gambling ToS once violated has a consequence, and even though your money is in their, I bet they will just simply tell OP about what he did and he will never get the money out of their.

It was OP's fault clearly, because he already knew what's gonna happen once he get caught.

I believe OP already understands that even at the point he will comply with KYC, nothing good will happen. That's why he thinks that using other identities might solve the case which I also doubt will work.

To somehow solve the issue and further proceed on the moving stage, OP should now totally forget this and accept the fact that it's over. Consider the amount stuck on that site as a loss already.
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If you have someone who is willing to help you by providing their full KYC then its worth it because $1200 is not really a small amount in general but only you can decide you need the money or just let the site to keep it

But in future never play on sites which actually blacklisted your country and keep in mind never repeat the same mistakes.
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I dont know if the problem is fixed already but your only choice is to proceed the KYC they're asking. But of course it will leave a great risk since you're already gave them a fake information so you will provide them a fully fake information and its a big no no.
sr. member
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.

Exactly.

Even though OP has friends in other countries where it is legal, I doubt that the gambling site he was talking about will let it slide. Gambling ToS once violated has a consequence, and even though your money is in their, I bet they will just simply tell OP about what he did and he will never get the money out of their.

It was OP's fault clearly, because he already knew what's gonna happen once he get caught.
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