Topic: Crypto stuck in sports betting site, now they want KYC - page 5. (Read 1073 times)

There are people who are really that stubborn when it comes to something on which even if they do know that it is prohibited or been restricted they would be always trying to push on even though its risky and on the time
they get caught then this is the time they do accuse out on sites that it is shady or they've been locked up as to know that they are the ones who did violate sites terms and conditions which it is normal for them
to make out such decision since its been always the rule.If you do violates then expect on what would be the consequences ahead and i dont think that you have the rights to make out some complaints.

That's the thing, why would you need to break the TOS of the gambling platform especially that your money is involved. Maybe because of the thrill of not getting caught or probably that they also think that the gambling website isn't really strict with their rules. Even the OP said that he tried to access the website without using the VPN.
I suggest try other gambling platforms that is available for your country to avoid this kind of issue.

Sometimes, we tend to break the TOS just to enjoy gambling despite the restrictions but as we take the risk, we should also keep in mind that our funds aren't in a safe place. 1500 is still a huge amount but to be honest, it would be hard for you to recover it. VPNs aren't that safe these days.

I hate to be victim-blaming with this kind of case, you just want to play but now you have $1500 and are confronted with the KYC, that $1500 is almost lost because of the violation of their TOS, casinos records everything time, IP address devices used there's a possibility that your mule's device and location will betray you, they know cheaters and how they worked that is why they have a strong warning they just don't put the warning in the TOS and hoping that their players will just follow.

I'm from the states and have been using a betting website to do some light sports betting. They do not allow US citizens and so I used a VPN to gain access. They only require an email address to create an account, and no KYC unless you want to buy crypto directly from them. I will not name the site for various reasons.

Anyways, sometimes I try to login to the site before setting my VPN and it simply tells me I'm in a restricted area. Never had any issues though, I just flip on the VPN and all good. I've been using this site for about 2 months now. Today I logged in and and it was requesting I input my phone number to proceed. It said I can withdraw funds but services were restricted until I enter my phone number. So I created a fake number from Hong Kong, and entered it in. It sent me a code and I entered it. Little did I know Hong Kong  is also banned from this site (I know I know, I was just in a hurry to place a bet). Now my account is locked and they will not allow me access to even withdraw until I go through full KYC.

I have about $1,200 of BTC in there, nothing crazy. If I KYC myself they will simply say I broke their TOS and lock me out forever (I did the research on this already). KYC consists of ID, recent bills, and photo of yourself holding ID. The only piece of information this site has on me is an email address.

I have friends who have friends in other countries. Some of those friends of friends live in impoverished countries. What's stopping me from using them to KYC my account and then giving them a piece of the stuck funds? I would only need to gain access to retrieve the funds and would not continue to use the account or website.

Is this a good idea and do you think it will work? Worth the $1,200? My only hesitation at this point is asking the friend and they go through the hassle but then it goes sideways and still do not gain access to my account.

I have friends who have friends in other countries. Some of those friends of friends live in impoverished countries. What's stopping me from using them to KYC my account and then giving them a piece of the stuck funds? I would only need to gain access to retrieve the funds and would not continue to use the account or website.

Is this a good idea and do you think it will work? Worth the $1,200? My only hesitation at this point is asking the friend and they go through the hassle but then it goes sideways and still do not gain access to my account.

If that happened in my case, I will comply with the KYC since I'm not really concerned about these identity-related issues if the involved site is somehow reputable. But since OP stated that even complying with KYC won't clear this mess, then it will change my view that why should I still submit if there will be no good outcome later on.

That being said, OP should now try everything if the eagerness to get the amount is really important. While at the same time, OP should now slowly accepts that the issue might not be resolved.

Ha, didn't know the other person is called a "mule." But yes, I was thinking about this. Technically I can come up with some clever rebuttal I can feed to my mule counter to all their accusations and there is no way for them to disprove it. But in the end I think they will simply give me some BS automated reply saying I broke ToS.

Also, can't I simply get KYC docs from my mule and submit them myself? My mule would not even need access to the account. But the mule must have trust in me to be dealing with their personal info, and a promise to receive payment.

Anyway, it all seems like too much of a hassle and the odds seemed stacked against me. Learned my lesson here.

The casino will know that he already used a fake telephone number to get the first verification.
Not to mention if he wants to use his friend's identity and if the casino finds out, his account will most likely be blocked, and he can't make any withdrawals at all. It seemed like this was a dilemma for him, and it wasn't easy to find a solution. But in any case, he could try to verify his account with the original documents.

The casino will know that he already used a fake telephone number to get the first verification.
Not to mention if he wants to use his friend's identity and if the casino finds out, his account will most likely be blocked, and he can't make any withdrawals at all. It seemed like this was a dilemma for him, and it wasn't easy to find a solution. But in any case, he could try to verify his account with the original documents.

Is this a good idea and do you think it will work? Worth the $1,200? My only hesitation at this point is asking the friend and they go through the hassle but then it goes sideways and still do not gain access to my account.

It depends on the agreement I guess the idea to contact them because in the first place is you already know the terms and agreement and there's a rule on it but try to make a reason out with their support if you are holding a large amount and already played a lot to their platform so I guess still have the privilege to make a request but again there's no assurance on it.

If they asked for it, do it.
If there are other things they asked, do it.
If there are other more things they asked more, do it.

That is if you only want to get that $1200 on your account.

Now if you don't want to undergo those hassle requirements, forget that site and move on.

Ha, didn't know the other person is called a "mule." But yes, I was thinking about this. Technically I can come up with some clever rebuttal I can feed to my mule counter to all their accusations and there is no way for them to disprove it. But in the end I think they will simply give me some BS automated reply saying I broke ToS.

Also, can't I simply get KYC docs from my mule and submit them myself? My mule would not even need access to the account. But the mule must have trust in me to be dealing with their personal info, and a promise to receive payment.

Anyway, it all seems like too much of a hassle and the odds seemed stacked against me. Learned my lesson here.

Looks like OP had already made His way to get the funds because he got Online in February 13 but never posted anything here meaning he does not interested in the later advise but had decided for His funds.

Since the beginning it was a bad idea, because cheated the terms and conditions of the platform, since US citizens aren't allowed there. Then you made things more complicated by entering a fake Hong Kong number and now you are probably going to complicate your situation even more by introducing someone else to the story in order to move your funds.

I think it's not a good idea, because it's a serious crime to pretend being a person you aren't.

Better to forget about it and to use only sites allowed for US citizens from now on.