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Topic: Crypto stuck in sports betting site, now they want KYC - page 8. (Read 1098 times)

member
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If someone in a non-restricted country fills out KYC (your mule) and is confronted with evidence of logging from a restricted country, they simply say "I was travelling and logged in at a friend's house".

If they say "you are using a different device", the mule says "I got another phone" or something reasonable.

Just have your story ready. But be prepared for the mule to take all your funds, or demand more than you initially bargain for. In which case, you could consider asking for collateral, though the mule might then think they are being scammed.

Just use common sense, plan and rehearse.
legendary
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https://bitcoincleanup.com/
~ What's stopping me from using them to KYC my account and then giving them a piece of the stuck funds?
Even if you asked someone else from an unrestricted country to withdraw the funds for you, the casino will remain doubtful of the documents because you already used a phone number from a restricted country.

You clearly said it here:
So I created a fake number from Hong Kong, and entered it in. It sent me a code and I entered it. Little did I know Hong Kong  is also banned from this site (I know I know, I was just in a hurry to place a bet). Now my account is locked and they will not allow me access to even withdraw until I go through full KYC.

That makes sense. Guess I'll just have to restart, was having a lot of fun with that $.

Anyone know when we will get a web3 sports betting site? Are we still years away? Login with metamask, no email, all smart contracts. I thought this would be here by now in 2022. Sounds like a gold rush but there must be good reason why it's not here yet.
Sandboxcasino.io, their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sandboxcasinoio-its-simple-fun-and-fair-5384549
Owl.games, their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/owlgames-web-30-crypto-casino-sportsbook-btc-metamask-walletconnect-5378280
Bitcasino.io, their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcasino-elevate-your-gameplay-1-vip-crypto-casino-4541166
Betfury.io, their thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betfuryio-stellar-network-xlm-bfg-farming-on-babyswap-5276159

Test all platforms with small amounts first.

You might want to check if withdrawals are reviewed manually before released or not.
legendary
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.

So you think their just bullshitting me with this KYC request to unlock my account? Why not just tell me I violated TOS and be done with it? So they want all my info and then still lock me out?

Because you will be in a rage if they tell you there is nothing you can do anymore and your money is theirs. So giving you at least a tiny glimpse of hope will make you breathe and chillax. Anyway once you give your KYC, there is no turning back and they will know you for sure and learn where you are from and exactly your address.

So if you are so sure that you are tracked already and your IP address is known to them, I guess you already lose that $1200. Making your friend's friend do the KYC for a reward is worth trying since you are already in this stalemate situation. But don't get mad when your friend's friend also doesn't give you anything.

If I remember correctly, there are accusations like this in the past wherein the user was not able to get his funds back even if he submitted his KYC.

And even if you used other documents, maybe they will still deny your refund and reentry in their platform. So yeah, the best thing to do is move on, it looks like you are a big bettor so you can cover that funds and win again, best of luck!!!
hero member
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That makes sense. Guess I'll just have to restart, was having a lot of fun with that $.

Anyone know when we will get a web3 sports betting site? Are we still years away? Login with metamask, no email, all smart contracts. I thought this would be here by now in 2022. Sounds like a gold rush but there must be good reason why it's not here yet.
Sandboxcasino.io, their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sandboxcasinoio-its-simple-fun-and-fair-5384549
Owl.games, their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/owlgames-web-30-crypto-casino-sportsbook-btc-metamask-walletconnect-5378280
Bitcasino.io, their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcasino-elevate-your-gameplay-1-vip-crypto-casino-4541166

The number 1 and 2 is new gambling site but I think it is good newcomers gambling site. You can search for the other casino by yourself on Gambling board because there are many more exciting gambling sites on that board that you can use to gamble and I think you should move your thread to the Gambling board since this belongs on that field.

But no matter what the site, you should read the reviews from members so you do not get the same experience as before.
newbie
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.

So you think their just bullshitting me with this KYC request to unlock my account? Why not just tell me I violated TOS and be done with it? So they want all my info and then still lock me out?

Because you will be in a rage if they tell you there is nothing you can do anymore and your money is theirs. So giving you at least a tiny glimpse of hope will make you breathe and chillax. Anyway once you give your KYC, there is no turning back and they will know you for sure and learn where you are from and exactly your address.

So if you are so sure that you are tracked already and your IP address is known to them, I guess you already lose that $1200. Making your friend's friend do the KYC for a reward is worth trying since you are already in this stalemate situation. But don't get mad when your friend's friend also doesn't give you anything.

That makes sense. Guess I'll just have to restart, was having a lot of fun with that $.

Anyone know when we will get a web3 sports betting site? Are we still years away? Login with metamask, no email, all smart contracts. I thought this would be here by now in 2022. Sounds like a gold rush but there must be good reason why it's not here yet.
hero member
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https://www.betcoin.ag
Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.

So you think their just bullshitting me with this KYC request to unlock my account? Why not just tell me I violated TOS and be done with it? So they want all my info and then still lock me out?

Because you will be in a rage if they tell you there is nothing you can do anymore and your money is theirs. So giving you at least a tiny glimpse of hope will make you breathe and chillax. Anyway once you give your KYC, there is no turning back and they will know you for sure and learn where you are from and exactly your address.

So if you are so sure that you are tracked already and your IP address is known to them, I guess you already lose that $1200. Making your friend's friend do the KYC for a reward is worth trying since you are already in this stalemate situation. But don't get mad when your friend's friend also doesn't give you anything.
newbie
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.

So you think their just bullshitting me with this KYC request to unlock my account? Why not just tell me I violated TOS and be done with it? So they want all my info and then still lock me out?
newbie
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Merit: 0
You should move this topic on gambling discussion board because this topic is related to casino with Bitcoin involve. Move it on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0.

The casino will just use it against you in case you KYC using other person identity because they will detect the change of IP once your friend login your account to do it. Can you exposed the name of the casino so that we can help you to raise concern to them if ever they have an official account here. Overall your case is very crucial because you didn't read there ToS before you play. This is the common way of Casino to get free money from there user that playing on restricted country and using VPN to dodge it.

Does your 1200$ worth of Bitcoin is came from winnings? Because Casino always use this reason incase players won.



My bad, I'm new here and was looking for the right board. Not sure how to even move it? repost?

I hessite to add their name because if they are on here I'm pretty use it's an automatic TOS violation and then I'm 100% screwed.

I've deposited around $400 and withdrawn about $1,800 so far, with $1,200 still in the account. Yeah so that's all winning money in there...
hero member
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Well from the looks of it, you have violated their TOS so that's ground for your account to be banned.
But the thing is that you have money there so their is the issue. I doubt though that you can get your money back for the simply fact, as I have said previously, there is a violation on your part. So sorry to burst the bubble for you, but chances are slim that you will get your $1,200.
hero member
Activity: 2716
Merit: 698
Dimon69
You should move this topic on gambling discussion board because this topic is related to casino with Bitcoin involve. Move it on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0.

The casino will just use it against you in case you KYC using other person identity because they will detect the change of IP once your friend login your account to do it. Can you exposed the name of the casino so that we can help you to raise concern to them if ever they have an official account here. Overall your case is very crucial because you didn't read there ToS before you play. This is the common way of Casino to get free money from there user that playing on restricted country and using VPN to dodge it.

Does your 1200$ worth of Bitcoin is came from winnings? Because Casino always use this reason incase players won.

sr. member
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I doubt you will succeed in this attempt. You can do it nonetheless. I think it would still be worth it to try. In fact even the one who would do the KYC would also think it is worth it even if it would go unsuccessful and he won't be receiving anything. You mentioned you've got friends of friends who are living in impoverished countries. Even if you give them the $200 of your $1,200, it must already be worth trying for them. Or perhaps you might want to give a little for the effort even if the KYC fails.

More likely it will fail. Your real IP is already detected. When you switched to a VPN, you're probably caught using it. That's another violation. And then all of a sudden, you will be detected logging in from another country and submitting KYC from there. All of these are definitely red flags in their system.
newbie
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I'm from the states and have been using a betting website to do some light sports betting. They do not allow US citizens and so I used a VPN to gain access. They only require an email address to create an account, and no KYC unless you want to buy crypto directly from them. I will not name the site for various reasons.

Anyways, sometimes I try to login to the site before setting my VPN and it simply tells me I'm in a restricted area. Never had any issues though, I just flip on the VPN and all good. I've been using this site for about 2 months now. Today I logged in and and it was requesting I input my phone number to proceed. It said I can withdraw funds but services were restricted until I enter my phone number. So I created a fake number from Hong Kong, and entered it in. It sent me a code and I entered it. Little did I know Hong Kong  is also banned from this site (I know I know, I was just in a hurry to place a bet). Now my account is locked and they will not allow me access to even withdraw until I go through full KYC.

I have about $1,200 of BTC in there, nothing crazy. If I KYC myself they will simply say I broke their TOS and lock me out forever (I did the research on this already). KYC consists of ID, recent bills, and photo of yourself holding ID. The only piece of information this site has on me is an email address.

I have friends who have friends in other countries. Some of those friends of friends live in impoverished countries. What's stopping me from using them to KYC my account and then giving them a piece of the stuck funds? I would only need to gain access to retrieve the funds and would not continue to use the account or website.

Is this a good idea and do you think it will work? Worth the $1,200? My only hesitation at this point is asking the friend and they go through the hassle but then it goes sideways and still do not gain access to my account.
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