Topic: Cryptocurrencies - teoria conspiratiei - page 5. (Read 12504 times)

Dear Business Customer,

Starting November 17, 2013:

- You will no longer be able to send international wire transfers. You will still be able to send domestic wires and receive both domestic and international wires. We’ll cancel any international wire transfers, including recurring ones, you scheduled to be sent after this date.

- Your cash activity limit for these accounts(s) will be $50,000 per statement cycle, per account. Cash activity is the combined total of cash deposits made at branches, night drops and ATMs and cash withdrawals made at branches (including purchases of money orders) and ATMs.

These changes will help us more effectively manage the risks involved with these types of transactions.

xoxo,

J.P. Morgan Chase


Note to Self:  Expect the mother of all Bitcoin bubbles to commence around end of November, early December of this year.  Why?  Oh, just a hunch - cause I know every major bank will soon send out letters just like the one above and the sheeple will run to "safety"!  lol.

This also means the Bitcoin ETF must be planned for November-December. 

Godspeed!

Continuare la postul me dinainte  E teoria conspiratiei ..asa ca ..Here I go again  Eu cred ca mineritul pentru Bitcoin devine din ce in ce mai centralizat..companiile de Asic se "bat" pentru intaietate pe piata si vezi Doamne ..sint pentru minerul de rand...in realitate ei mineaza la greu pe banii luati din  pre orders..si ne pun (sau incearca) pe noi ..oameni mai de rand ..in situatia de a vina asicurile lor care produc bani indeajuns sa break even...adica sa iti recuperezi banii.dar fara profit prea mare..epoca minerilor  de rind a apus..asistam la o batalie ..sau asa cum se zice pe forum ..la o cursa a inarmarii de Asic uri...nimeni nu stie exact unde va duce..companiile mai puternice vor inghiti pe cele mai slabe in viitor...rata de Hash va creste asa de mult incat lumea de rind nu va mai putea participa in minerit...tare mi-e teama ca de aici va porni si problema Bitcoin..daca un Super Miner va lua peste 50% din network ..atunci..adio Bitcoin..si mai este si problema "intelegerii" intre companiile mari producatoare de chips si Asic...eu simt ca este o problema prezenta..tot ceea ce vine pe piata pentru omul de rand este predestinat sa nu faca profit  prea mare..ori ti le vor livra la o data in viitor cand dificultatea va fii prea mare..ori nu sint chip uri ..etc..deci eu cred ca la ora actuala jocurile sint facute intre companiile mari...ma refer la Bitcoin Asics...in scurt timp nimeni nu va fii capabil sa isi cumpere in timp un Asic care sa produca...Deci...acum pe piata sint companiile de Asic care prin diferite metode momesc publicul sa le trimita bani pentru preorders sau orders..in urmatoarele 2 luni lumea se va convinge ca nu mai merita..nici pe CEX.IO ..nici Butterfly sau KNC ..etc..
In Acelasi timp toate companiile de Asic mineaza si spera la un pret mai bun de Bitcoin..au acumulat o gramada de Bitcoins ..o gramada de dolari de la pre orders...deci acum avem mineri si speculanti in piata de Bitcoin..cam 80%  dupa parerea mea..
Deci daca cumparam CEX.IO e bine sa urmarim rata de Hash a networkului ..din ora in ora pot sa spun...e bine sa anticipezi cand trebuie sa vinzi GH urile pe care le ai...pretul a cazut deja ..si cred ca va cade si mai mult..pe piata sint o gramada de Asicuri de vinzare care acum citeva luni erau AUR curat..interesanta evolutia...eu totusi cred in Bitcoin...are cel mai dezvoltat network ..cele mai multe aplicatii ...si din ce in ce mai multi dusmani (Bancile de azi)
Peace

Prima tara, cam devreme:   http://ipad.capital.ro/187566

Acum ..dupa ce a cazut unul dintre motoarele principale ale crypto currencies  ..ma refer la Silk Road..intram din nou in teoria conspiratiei...care imi place...deci Cine si de ce va mai investi in Bitcoin si alte crypto...nu cred ca in viitor vom vedea ca cineva va alege Bitcoin ca standard al monedei virtuale ...cred ca eroziunea a inceput si discreditarea monedei va fii din ce in ce mai accentuata..in background ..sint convins ( si am experimentat pe pielea mea) ca sistemul bancar lucreaza din plin sa opreasca amenintarea care vine din partea Bitcoin..sau orice fel de monede de felul asta..au fost prinsi cu chilotii jos..si asta nu le place..pe de alta parte ...sistemul este convins de acuma ca nu vor putea opri noul val...ei cauta cu disperare o solutie la acest nou sistem de a transmite si de a tranzactiona "bani" pe internet..problema este ca..ei nu sint inca pregati-ti si nici nu doresc un sistem de genul acesta...vor accepta numai in conditiile in care au control asupra procesului...aici este problema..Ei Nu Au Control Inca...
Ceea ce vedem acum ...este inceputul campaniei de a lua controlul asupra crypto currencies..
Deci....Baieti..astia au bani nu gluma ..si pot sa print si mai multi bani la comanda..nu vor putea sa take over the 50% of the bitcoin network niciodata...asta este clar..deci ..concluzia logica este ca vor studia ..si se vor axa pe un crypto pe care il vor putea controla...il vor face main stream in citiva ani..in acelasi timp ei vor lucra la discreditarea bitcoin ului.
Ca sa introduca un nou crypto si sa il aiba in control..este posibil..dar va fii un chin ..poate prin decret se va putea..mai usor este sa piggy back pe un coin care exista si sa il foloseasca in viitor..Oricum..razboiul a inceput ..incepuse mai demult de fapt ..dar acum ia amploare..
Nu cred in ruptul capului ca pe termen lung Bitcoinul va ramane de facto moneda de internet..de ce..??
Pai ..sa ne gindim un pic..asa cum mi-au batut mie la usa cind au vazut tranzactii in and out care nu faceau sens ( si nu vorbesc de sute de mi de dolari aici..Citeva mii numai..dar zilnic..lol)..asa au batut la usa la toti cei involved in bitcoin..aka..BitPay..Gox..Stamp..Virtex..si asta se stie deja..este din ce in ce mai greu sa iei cash pentru bitcoin..sau sa pui cash prin banci ca sa cumperi bitcoin..si asta este puterea lor de baza..atata timp cit bitcoin este speculativ si bazat pe FIAT money..good bye Charlie..
Sper sa nu am dreptate ...vom vedea..dar miroase a vremuri interesante..
P.S.-eram pregatit sa mai bag citeva mii de dolari in crypto...inca sint..dar mai astept..va sfatuiesc la fel.

Intervin rar in thread-uri, deoarece cred in libertatea de exprimare, ca doar de-asta avem forum public. E normal sa avem opinii diferite, dar nu-mi place sa vad ca ne razboim intre noi.
Este o discutie interesanta care merita un ton mai calm.
Peace

[Cyrus lasa barda in teaca pentru moment]

Vocea ratiunii. Eu se pare ca am pierdut 200 BTC cu Labcoinul vietii si nu-s asa de suparat ca voi.

O, nu.
Nu imi place cearta la veterani.

Vlad imi place pentru ca isi impartaseste gandurile aici, cu noi, pe forumul romanesc.
Este chiar printre putinii (de fapt singurul) care ne spune si noua ce crede el despre lumea crypto...restul tac si fac in lumea si dupa mintea lor...apar doar cu monede la vanzare/cumparare.

Colegul heatgsm are un pragmatism acut si rece (laudabil dar ma sperie lipsa de speranta romantica din analizele sale)

Conjur distinsul nostru moderator sa nu foloseasca barda: este doar patima si orgoliu acum. Se stinge natural fara coercitie.

 Vad ca singurele tale argumente inafara de MSM sunt vorbele de ocara. Tipic oamenilor care nu accepta alte opinii decat ale lor si se cred atotstiutori - vorba aia : vezi paiul din ochiul altuia dar nu vezi barna din ochiul tau. Josnic - nu esti si nu vei fi niciodata un american. Hai succes in predictii si investitii - adica singura ta investitie va fi oricum Camp FEMA - sa ne trimiti vedere  

L.E. CNN este televiziune nu "una ziare"  - (google it smart arse)  si http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

Hahahhaaaha.

CNN?  Bai fraiere, CNN a fost doar una din Mai multe ziare care a anuntat FAPTUL ca sa lansat un Bitcoin fund.

Ai auzit de google?  Incearca-l si o sa gasesti o gramada de alte ziare si TV Stations care au raportat identic aceiasi FAPT.

Nu Mai fi Asa lenes, incearca sa faci ceva spre bine inloc sa te caci pe tine de fiecare data cand postez ceva fapte care se intampla in Lumea asta.

 CNN ? Are you kiddin` me? Daca tu esti atat de "weirdo" sa crezi in MSM si ca le va "scapa" un link ca vezi doamne sa se imbogateasca omul de rand atunci inseamna ca esti mult mai credul si mai indoctrinat de cum mi-am inchipuit.  
  Cu predictiile tale cum raman prietene? Oopps...si Punxsutawney Phil prezice mai bine.
  Pune mana, citeste (nu doar MSM) si nu mai fa pe expertul (dinastia de dupa 2008 sunt multtiii dar ..   )  - inca putin si poti luat job-ul lui Cramer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5pd9eKapY
  Poti incepe deaici: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-gld-and-slv-disclosure-precious-metals-puzzle-palace
    

 L.E: nu stiu cat fac 1+1 la mine in vale dar la tine sigur 2+2=5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHAuGA7gqFU

Hey weirdo, link-ul care ti la-m dat, daca Sti sa citesti, este masiv de important Pentru-ca este exact ca un ETF numai ca este Pentru aia bogati si nu Pentru public.

Vezi cumva conectia aici?  Daca un veste de fapte are foarte mult de facut cu un ETF crezi ca cineva cu creier o sa vada ca este important.

Tu aici ramai repetent ca se vede ca nu ai capacitatea sa faci nici macar conectiile usoare.

Bravo, esti cu toti Phd's si professional si experti, nici ei nu cred ca Bitcoin poate sa ea Bitcoin ETF.

Dar fapte Raman fapte si daca grup-ul asta din New York au lansat un Bitcoin fund Pentru bogati astazi crezi ca face ceva sens ca un ETF sa urmeze in curand Pentru tot public-ul?

1 plus 1, cat este pe la tine, acolo pe la vale?

Mai baiatule fiecare post al tau include EFT - placa e deja stricata - lumea fuge de GLD si SLV si tu o iei cu EFT ... m-ai rupt cu predictiile tale - sunt pentru botanisti - ATENTIE deci pentru NEINITITATI !

Man, I love it when I'm right.

A BITCOIN fund has just launched.

It's not the huge ETF I've been predicting but this proves the ETF is probably a done deal.

And they'll soon look for a fund 2.0 or an ETF 2.0 and that's where I think ixCoin will come in.

Enjoy:


http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/09/25/bitcoin-investment-trust/

Correct.  Prima vine ETF si pe urma o Tara adoptare.  Top picks ale mele sunt:  India, Argentina si China.  Oricare ar Duce BTF la $10,000 de la $130 Astazi.  Tot cred ca ETF ar Duce BITCOIN la minimum $1,000 in 6-12 luni.

Timpuri interesante si bogate daca ghicesti nu numai unde merge BITCOIN dar si care o sa fie Bitcoin 2.0 sau ETF 2.0.

Ne asteapta vremuri interesante, cine are depozite in BTC s-ar putea sa prinda un tsnami. Orice forma de legalizare internationala poate duce  BTC la spikeuri incredibile.

Articol foarte interesant.  Merge direct spre un BITCOIN ETF.

Merci mult!

Asta nu mai e de conspiratie deja

Dar se pare ca Bitcoin va intra in rindul lumii ...Thought on this ?? anyone??
Bitcoin gaining market-based legitimacy as XBT

Punctual trams run quietly along the street out front. It looks like any other office building in Zürich. But inside the nondescript building of SIX Interbank Clearing, a small unit of professionals maintains the list of the world’s currency codes.

Last week in that very same building, I had the honor of presenting the bitcoin cryptocurrency to a gathered audience of various bank officials at an e-commerce conference. And I mentioned that the individual, or committee, that endorses and finalizes XBT as the ISO currency code for bitcoin will earn their spot in history next to Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course, a new code for a brand new asset class is not comparable to an achievement in financial cryptography and distributed consensus, but it is significant nonetheless because of its impact on the evolution of math-based currencies.

The ISO 4217 standard for currency codes is published by a voluntary, non-governmental organization independent of any national agenda. It operates more or less as a body that approves the three-character currency codes of new countries or regions. In some cases, the code reflects a non-governmental unit such as gold (XAU) and silver (XAG).

Beyond the regulations and government approval that so frequently underpin discussions about the legitimacy of bitcoin, a different type of legitimacy is emerging and it has the ability to out-survive the elected administrations of legal jurisdictions.

This market-based legitimacy holds the key to bitcoin’s success – not the sanctions and official blessings for what’s an appropriate monetary unit. Governments and regulators may come and go, but customs and convention persevere.

Currency code XBT is a sign of this growing market-based influence, at least among the organizations currently depending on such codes. Governments generally follow rather than lead market adoption because it is too difficult to alter the course of momentum.

Uniquely, bitcoin operates as both a value transfer network and a separate unit of account. Therefore, it doesn’t require the services of a third-party intermediary to approve and route transactions. However, as a monetary unit, bitcoin offers great opportunities for those who desire to trade or price in bitcoin and perhaps layering services on top of the protocol.

At the top of the pyramid is SWIFT, a member-owned cooperative that provides the communication platform to connect more than 10,000 banking organizations in 210 countries (16 more countries than the United Nations).

SWIFT’s influence is so pervasive that its ecosystem is a daily barometer of global economic performance such as GDP growth rates, capital flows, and foreign exchange trade volatility.
Once again, bitcoin is a major topic of conversation at Sibos, the annual SWIFT conference being held in Dubai this year.

In prepared remarks yesterday, SWIFT CEO Gottfried Leibbrandt said, “I would not see why we at Swift could not send transactions in bitcoin as a currency.” If they do, they will undoubtedly look to the ISO for the currency code. The Bitcoin Foundation had two scheduled appearances at the SWIFT conference.

Also, the payment networks like VISA, MasterCard, and American Express all rely on the ISO 4217 codes for international transactions and currency conversion. Once the member banks start requesting settlement in bitcoin for certain transactions, the payment networks will look to the ISO for the corresponding currency code.

XE.com, one of the world’s leading providers of Internet foreign exchange tools and services, recently began displaying bitcoin prices in XBT across their data feed. Founded in 1993, the company licenses over 35,000 XE Currency Converters, provides commercial currency data to over 1,000 clients, and serves 18 million unique users per month.

Service provider OANDA also displays bitcoin prices using the currency code XBT. OANDA is a market maker and a trusted source for currency data, serving both individuals and financial institutions. Founded in 1995, it provides access to one of the world’s largest historical, high frequency, filtered currency databases serving over 30 million requests per month.

Not to be outdone, Bloomberg in August announced that they were testing XBT price quotes internally lending more ammunition to the push for formal code adoption.

In the bitcoin trading world, exchange operator Kraken became the first to make the formal switch to XBT this week and other bitcoin exchanges are expected to follow suit.

In the retail foreign exchange trading world, platform market leaders like MetaTrader 4 are witnessing client firms undertaking the bitcoin modifications on their own. Although not expressing trades in XBT yet, the gradual adoption of bitcoin into existing forex platforms signals a huge shift in market trading. So far, only three companies are known to have incorporated bitcoin into the MT4 environment, including AvaTrade, BTC-E, and Bit4X.

XBT may represent the beginning for bitcoin standards and market-based legitimacy, but it is certainly not the end. Next up on the standards agenda is the Unicode symbol for bitcoin with B⃦ or ฿ as the two leading contenders.

pute-ti citi articolul aici :http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gaining-market-based-legitimacy-xbt/

Daca nu Luam in consideratie the PUMP cu zvonuri ca o sa mearga pe Mt Gox, Pentru-ca a scazut cam mult cand Mt. Gox nu a listat pe LTC, atunci LTC a stat cam in loc.  acuma 2 luni LTC a costat cam $2.50-$3.00 si acuma este identic.

Ce inseamna asta este ca LTC nu o sa aprecieze cum crede lumea.  Este bine ca si-a retinut valoarea Mai ales can multe alt coins au picat extrem de mult dar nu stiu ce sa cred de faptul ca LTC nu a crescut cam de loc.

Preferatul coin al meu (ixCoin) a crescut cu cam 30% in aceasi perioada dar nu am nici o dovada ca nu a fost doar o coincidenta.

O sa aflam foarte incurand daca vine Bitcoin ETF in cam 2 luni sau poate Mai devreme.

LTC-ul s-a depreciat si el ?