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Let's use NewCorp as an example since it owns so much land, which will probably still remain in the event of a game relaunch. Here is a current top 5 ownership:

1. ZECHARIAH : 15,000
2. SOUL : 5,000
3. LOAF : 4,100
4. NEWCORP : 4,099
5. LITTLEFLOCK : 3,800

So right there, aside from me, you have almost 70% ownership in the top 5 that is in Zech-controlled accounts. Many other corporations, such as bank, are in a similar situation.

In regards to our M/CKM token, do we want to try to have 8 digits past the decimal place? 8 digits past the decimal seems pretty universal among exchanges and I couldn't find one that worked with more or less digits. Even for something like XMR, which has more, it looks like the sites truncate them.

If we went with 8 satoshi units (what the hell are these called anyone in a more generic sense?), 1 quadrillion in-game M/CKM is only 10 mil "full" units with 8 digits:  

1,000,000,0.00,000,000

OR

10,000,000.00000000

As far as the corp accounts of Zech--that's a matter for the shareholders to determine. Accounts like coinshop, which are game function accounts, are waiting for someone who is qualified to apply.

This is delusional. The so-called assets have near-zero value at this point, especially considering lack of liquidity if trying to sell them.

A proposal to raise capital and put new effort to (re)build the game into something of significant value is 'devaluing' nothing. I take no position on the 10% specifically, but the idea that a made up database currency in a nearly-defunct game can't be diluted as part of a viable plan is taking things too far. The game owners can consider it IMO. Maybe it still gets rejected, which is fine.

What precisely does the game need to do with this 10%?

It's just my personal principle, ofcourse if others think this is better for the game, I'll be more than happy to go along.

This is delusional. The so-called assets have near-zero value at this point, especially considering lack of liquidity if trying to sell them.

A proposal to raise capital and put new effort to (re)build the game into something of significant value is 'devaluing' nothing. I take no position on the 10% specifically, but the idea that a made up database currency in a nearly-defunct game can't be diluted as part of a viable plan is taking things too far. The game owners can consider it IMO. Maybe it still gets rejected, which is fine.

We can raise funding through voluntary donations, there is no need for a forced deevaluation of ones assets.

Yes, we were discussing on IRC newcorp which is part of his assets, though it wasn't immediately clear to me whether he is a majority shareholder or not. My suggestion was for the town to appoint a paid trustee to manage newcorp on behalf of the shareholders (probably with the choice of trustee approved by other shareholders). Appointing one to manage his assets more broadly is also likely appropriate.

If nothing else, protecting the value those accounts with reasonable administration will maximize probability and magnitude of the recovery to his victims.

As for the 10% to Town--I was fine with that when I added it to the Bounty (as per smooth's brilliant suggestion), before Loaf and iluvbitcoins shot it down--nice to see they get it now.

Ideally board membership should be based on a combination of economic stake in the Game and activity level, if SirJacket needs to be replaced for either of these reasons then now is the time to do it, while important decisions are being made.

I would prefer 5 board members to 3, but either way, we need a full compliment asap.

If SirJacket is not available anymore, then I would nominate Loaf to be his replacement.

If a 5 member board was more desirable, then I would also nominate smooth & iluvbitcoins.

Of all the things that need doing, this might be the most important to get right, a well functioning Board.

PJ said CKM deposit option should be done in 2-3 days.

Can we please get off risto's junk when it comes to the economy--NPCC that was paid for with XMR was the key to the economy and risto himself said that wasn't a viable option. He said he had a solution that would be implemented with Clans, but low and behold that was just more BS. As far as I can tell PJ was left with a list of ideas with no plan for implementation--not suprising that risto found a way to exit before it was discovered.

It's true that risto was a great salesmen and most of us fell for the new item tax more than a few times, but he's hardly an economic genius when he can't even figure out that the game couldn't keep pace with XMR's any-second-now rise, that Markka was a pipe dream based on the people's faith in him (or lack thereof shown by its reception), or that running a fractional reserve was a piss poor way to estimate marketcap.

And if he was such a great game designer, why don't we have graphics or a functioning battle system with the millions he claims he spent out of his own money? We got sucked into his imagined world and it was fun until you realized it wasn't sustainable with the players we had and he wasn't getting new players to join. I'm just sick of the idea that he can save us if he returns--it's irrational and not based on facts--it's based on his ability to sell himself to a few highrollers and pay for admin (mind you with little regard to actual development) to live in his fantasy of being a great game developer. It's only a great game if we fix his mistakes and use the one thing that's right about the game--its market.

Even if it is used only for deposhares with a repository for gaining a trust score, it's more than most exchanges can offer due to there being no regulation since it's a video game economy (oh wait, maybe risto was a genius game developer and the reason I won't use his assets to pay Town is that this is a test run for how admin treat the next depoholder that tries to run away and  the trust system is the ability to hold M/CK from leaving the exch--game--but who knows what I'm talking about half the time?).

ATM I think it should be admin based as they are the ones who have to implement the work load that is being decided by the board. Now when there is an actual Dev fund to pay the admin, then that would be the time to have votes (as flaky half baked ideas would just be cash cows for admin and not a reason to quit).

Maybe we have an election, I am not a candidate, so I could help with that.

A CEO is a good idea too, the Board sets goals & objectives, and the CEO implements strategies & tactics to achieve them.

Honestly, I think the interested player count and overall activity levels are low enough that anyone who wants to join a board should be able to join it. I would also recommend that Speed be added. Additionally, I think people with "ideas," like Smooth, are just as valuable for their input

I've dealt with loaf a lot over the months and Speed or iluvbitcoins would be a better choice by far--smooth would also, but I know he won't volunteer due to the time commitment. Though Sirjacket is still better choice in abstention.

We should have a CEO as I think there are too many agendas and one person should represent the game and be responsible for its vision.

I fail on account of activity level in the game (meaning, activity before the game stalled; I had not been very active for quite a while), though I'm happy to throw ideas around on thread/IRC. It is debatable whether I fail on account of economic stake as I don't own a lot of M (though possibly a bit more than I realize across multiple chars/entities) though I do still some own other in-game assets.

Anyway, I would decline a full board seat and the accompanying responsibilities at this time, but still happy to discuss ideas.

Ideally board membership should be based on a combination of economic stake in the Game and activity level, if SirJacket needs to be replaced for either of these reasons then now is the time to do it, while important decisions are being made.

I would prefer 5 board members to 3, but either way, we need a full compliment asap.

If SirJacket is not available anymore, then I would nominate Loaf to be his replacement.

If a 5 member board was more desirable, then I would also nominate smooth & iluvbitcoins.

Of all the things that need doing, this might be the most important to get right, a well functioning Board.

Ideally board membership should be based on a combination of economic stake in the Game and activity level, if SirJacket needs to be replaced for either of these reasons then now is the time to do it, while important decisions are being made.

I would prefer 5 board members to 3, but either way, we need a full compliment asap.

If SirJacket is not available anymore, then I would nominate Loaf to be his replacement.

If a 5 member board was more desirable, then I would also nominate smooth & iluvbitcoins.

Of all the things that need doing, this might be the most important to get right, a well functioning Board.

If a 5 member board was more desirable, then I would also nominate smooth & iluvbitcoins.

There is a "board" but aside from HMC and Mooo, I do not see SirJacket on the game anymore at all. HMC retains decent M ownership (roughly 100bil), as does Mooo (~25 bil), but SirJacket barely has 1bil M. Voting should be based on the level of CKO ownership, or people should at least be able to assign proxies (which can be done in these tokens) to vote for them. Of course, if we give Town 60% of the game, voting may be a moot point