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Topic: CryptoNote technical discussion and Chess Challenge - page 46. (Read 96133 times)

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My vote is Qc3

Make it two votes for Qc3.

3 votes Qc3: (boolberry, skeet, languagehasmeaning)

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Qc3. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
white to move

1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4 cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4 Nc6
6.Qe3 g6
7.Nc3 Bg7
8.Be2 Nf6
9.O-O O-O
10.h3 Nd7
11.b3 Nc5
12.Bb2 f5
13.exf5 Bxf5
14.Rad1 Qa5
15.Rd2 Rf6
16.Nd5 Re6
17.Qf4 Ne4
18.Bxg7 Kxg7
19.Rb2 Nc3
20.Nd4 Re5
21.Bf3 Nxd5
22.Bxd5 Qc3
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My vote is Qc3

Make it two votes for Qc3.

3 votes Qc3: (boolberry, skeet, languagehasmeaning)
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My vote is Qc3
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Bxd5

that makes 3 Bxd5 votes so far

I will vote for cxd5

1 vote for cxd5
3 votes Bxd5

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Bxd5. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
black to move

1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4 cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4 Nc6
6.Qe3 g6
7.Nc3 Bg7
8.Be2 Nf6
9.O-O O-O
10.h3 Nd7
11.b3 Nc5
12.Bb2 f5
13.exf5 Bxf5
14.Rad1 Qa5
15.Rd2 Rf6
16.Nd5 Re6
17.Qf4 Ne4
18.Bxg7 Kxg7
19.Rb2 Nc3
20.Nd4 Re5
21.Bf3 Nxd5
22.Bxd5
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Bxd5

that makes 3 Bxd5 votes so far

I will vote for cxd5

1 vote for cxd5
3 votes Bxd5
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Bxd5

that makes 3 Bxd5 votes so far
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22. Bd5
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Nxd5. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
white to move

1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4 cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4 Nc6
6.Qe3 g6
7.Nc3 Bg7
8.Be2 Nf6
9.O-O O-O
10.h3 Nd7
11.b3 Nc5
12.Bb2 f5
13.exf5 Bxf5
14.Rad1 Qa5
15.Rd2 Rf6
16.Nd5 Re6
17.Qf4 Ne4
18.Bxg7 Kxg7
19.Rb2 Nc3
20.Nd4 Re5
21.Bf3 Nxd5
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Nxd5 (boolberry, newb4now, languagehasmeaning, dre1982)

Also for me.
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 Nxd5 (boolberry, newb4now, languagehasmeaning)
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1 vote for Nxd5 (boolberry)

2 votes Nxd5 (boolberry, newb4now)
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22: b4 Qa3

Work it forward from there. White queen will have to pull back to Qc1 protect the Rook, then black Nd4.


Not really. Qa3 is worse than Qa4 or Qd8(recommended for this line). The answer from white would be Rb3.

23. Rb3 Qxa2 or whatever
24. Nc1 Qc2
25. Rxd3 capturing the black bishop that was moved just couple of moves ago and with the caliber of players here, this is 1-0 at this point, no need to play further.

Bd3 is a blunder, period.

Ok so why not 20. Nd4 Nxd5?

21. Nxe6 Kf6

This was the position after 20.Nd4


20.Nd4 Nxd5
21.Nxe6 Kf6
22.cxd5 is completely winning for white


20.Nd4 Nxd5
21.Nxe6 Bxe6
22.cxd5 Bxd5 is also good for white


Looking at the game so far there may be a few moves I might have changed in retrospect, but I do not think there have been any blunders yet. In a game like this it is hard for a really bad move to win a vote, unless the reason why it is bad is quite complicated.  If just one person can see why a move is horrible, providing that analysis well before the deadline should be enough to change voters minds and avoid the blunder.
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1 vote for Nxd5 (boolberry)
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Bf3. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
black to move

1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4 cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4 Nc6
6.Qe3 g6
7.Nc3 Bg7
8.Be2 Nf6
9.O-O O-O
10.h3 Nd7
11.b3 Nc5
12.Bb2 f5
13.exf5 Bxf5
14.Rad1 Qa5
15.Rd2 Rf6
16.Nd5 Re6
17.Qf4 Ne4
18.Bxg7 Kxg7
19.Rb2 Nc3
20.Nd4 Re5
21.Bf3
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21.b4

They will probably play Qa3 (because Nxe2+ Rxe2 is really good for us. After the queen moves we can trade on e5 then play Nxf5+)

21.b4 Qa3 22. Nxf5+ Rxf5 23.Qd2 is my plan

21.Bf3 (ArticMine, 8XMR, XMRpromotions)
21.b4 (LucyLovesCrypto)
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22: b4 Qa3

Work it forward from there. White queen will have to pull back to Qc1 protect the Rook, then black Nd4.


Not really. Qa3 is worse than Qa4 or Qd8(recommended for this line). The answer from white would be Rb3.

23. Rb3 Qxa2 or whatever
24. Nc1 Qc2
25. Rxd3 capturing the black bishop that was moved just couple of moves ago and with the caliber of players here, this is 1-0 at this point, no need to play further.

Bd3 is a blunder, period.

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Massive opportunity lost with Re5. Just as white lost a massive opportunity by waiting too long to move Bd3.

Not really as shown above. This is headed toward 1/2- 1/2 with positional advantage to white at this point very slightly (51-49)

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I only had about 5-10 minutes to study this game, so I might have a mistake. I am not using any computer, just in my head. I am not really exceptional at chess. Never studied any books on it. I think my talent lies more in the area of creativity than in calculating all the potential moves with a probabilistic logic.

Definitely helps to spend more time.
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Nxe2+ would have been a horrible move for Team BBR with ..Nxe2 21. Nxe2 anything 22. Qg3 anything 23. Rd2

20. Nxe2 would have been check. So you say white follows with 21. Nxe2, then black follows with 22. Bd3, then what  Huh White can't 23: Re2 because black can capture 24. Qxe2. If 24. queen on to light-square then Black can torment with Rook and Knight until the battle at xe2 is won.

20.Nd4 Nxe2
21.Nxe2 Bd3 (??)
22.b4 Qd8 (because Nxb4 would be loss of N and Qa4 would be met with Nec3 trapping the black queen in left flank)

22: b4 Qa3

Work it forward from there. White queen will have to pull back to Qc1 protect the Rook, then black Nd4.

Massive opportunity lost with Re5. Just as white lost a massive opportunity by waiting too long to move Bd3.

I only had about 5-10 minutes to study this game, so I might have a mistake. I am not using any computer, just in my head. I am not really exceptional at chess. Never studied any books on it. I think my talent lies more in the area of creativity than in calculating all the potential moves with a probabilistic logic.
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