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legendary
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Have you guy seen this Steemit article that has allegedly been written by Rob Dawson ( HEX)

I have met Adam twice and Rob once in NZ,
I have visited their office once as well.
I would be about 75% confident this is Rob's words or at least someone else words but that knows the whole story.

What do you guys think ?

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Source : https://steempeak.com/palnet/@vcdragon/version-of-the-story-of-cryptopia-from-developer-him-self-how-it-start-and-end?fbclid=iwar1gvicszyrsgp8mso03c2ctddkdzvxeqcvtwzd6hrlj7rgpkon-azv-meu

a single person couldn't pull it off  Wink

Can you guys go and pick apart each other's posts in another thread, and keep this one to the topic at hand? kthx.

Agreed. Every time I come to this thread for new info these fucking numb nuts are waving their dicks at each other.

at least the dicks we are waving have balls with it  Tongue

you on the other hand have none...here let me help you grow some, just say this words.."cryptopia is an exit scammer and cryptopia shills are potential accomplices"

I've used exchanges all these years and I don't have any relation/ties with employees or whatever kind of animal lives there. shilling cryptopia after losing crypto to a hack and losing funds? ... now who's numb here  Roll Eyes
legendary
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C.D.P.E.M
Have you guy seen this Steemit article that has allegedly been written by Rob Dawson ( HEX)

I have met Adam twice and Rob once in NZ,
I have visited their office once as well.
I would be about 75% confident this is Rob's words or at least someone else words but that knows the whole story.

What do you guys think ?

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here is in a version of the story of cryptopia from deve him self hex. I do belive him very much ty to his exchange i know all abuot crypto, i lost alot that crytopia die, that ok. but is not ok that bad guys win they take every thing from us now all we can do is let the world know this story, and hope for better. so guys plz read this story. ** is long but is real

Around January 2014 Adam and I started working on a project as a hobby called Cryptopia which was a website for Crypto enthusiasts including an exchange, mining pools, forums and other features. After the project started to materialize into something starting to resemble a finished product we incorporated the company Cryptopia in July 2014. In December 2014 when we thought we were ready we launched the website live into production. For the next few years we spent all of our free time working on Cryptopia and in 2015 I resigned from my full time job to keep working on Cryptopia while Adam continued at his job and working on Cryptopia in his spare time.

After I had burned through all my savings I needed to look at finding another job, Adam was currently working as a Developer for Intranel. Adam got me an interview at his work, but the day of the interview I instead went to see my parents and told them that I didn't know what I was asking them for but I felt like if I had to go back to working a regular job it was going to kill me. My parents took out $45,000 from their retirement fund to buy shares in the company so that Adam and I could use it to continue to work on Cryptopia.

Adam resigned from Intranel, but they said they didn't want to lose him and wanted to keep an eye on us so they offered a room in their office for rent, which we would pay for by Adam doing sprint code work for Intranel, and when they didn't have work for them they charged us cash. Intranel showed an interest very early on but Adam and I felt that we were handling things just fine on our own for the size we were and the work we were doing and didn't see any need to get them involved.

Intranel continued to show an interest in us, and after the beginning of 2017 when things really started to kick off and we started experiencing exponential growth at a scary pace we started to take Intranel's offers more seriously as neither of us identified ourselves as business men and only wanted to continue doing the development and innovation work we were already doing.

Intranel made us an offer that for 20% the company they would handle all of the business management and development, things like helping hiring and managing staff, paying tax, lobbying for regulator guidance, all the "boring business stuff" and that they would contract us out 4 of their FTEs at a discounted rate while they helped us find and hire staff of our own.

Instead of hiring staff for us they hired staff for themselves and continued to contract them out to us at exorbitant rates even including the agreed upon 30% discount, and put their staff in key managerial positions to allow themselves degrees of autonomy without seeking shareholder or director consent. If and when shareholder and or director consent was ever sought for anything, if the response they got was "No" they would just ignore it anyway.

They immediately set to playing games of divide and conquer and playing he said she said trying to pit us against each other and split us up. They would come to one for a request, get a no, go to the other for a yes, and then play us off against each other. Once we were reliant on the work they were doing for us and the staff they were providing for us they turned around and said they wanted an extra 5% of the shares or they would leave us high and dry with our engagements. To further divide us they insisted that I make up the extra 5% because they thought Adam was worth more to the company than I was.

Adam reached a point of frustration where they were trying to manage him and the work he was doing and how he should do it that he got fed up and resigned. They told me I should take a holiday so I don't get burned out like Adam, while I was away they simply stopped paying me. Not formally dismissed, no change of contract, no nothing. Just stopped paying me, and when I came back they told me they had given away my desk and there physically wasn't room for me in the building anymore, and wouldn't let me back.

After being a shareholder for 1 month, without shareholder or director approval or consent they issued a dividend. Adam and I never received this dividend. They also gave to themselves the same amount proportionately they claimed to have given Adam and I even though we'd been there for years and they had been a shareholder for a month. Again, Adam and I never actually received the dividend they say they issued.

The reason they forced the extra 5% was because they needed the extra shares to be able to block any major transaction the company tried to undertake so that we could not achieve a 75% threshold. They also used their position to veto listing policies in place to maintain the companies integrity in order to list and trade on coins their friends had made.

They sought director consent to create a company in the UK to act as our support desk, which we told them we didn't want them to do. They did it anyway, created it under their own names personally, and then again without director or shareholder consent issued themselves a loan for approximately $300,000 from the company to them personally for "startup costs".

They took on clients using our name for projects we said we weren't interested in or capable of, they assured us they were handling that work for themselves and they were just using our name as partners, they then billed us for that work. They issued invoices from Cryptopia for themselves, approved and paid them. They bled money everywhere they could, we paid for tax on their staff's flu shots? We paid for taxes on christmas gifts to their staff and our company bought the gifts. Everything they were unable to take for themselves they pissed into the wind on needless expenses and luxuries the company could not afford and engagements that ultimately buried us.

They made deals to list coins for a fee in Bitcoin instead of in the exchanges native coin DOT, this had negative impacts on the DOT markets and the ecosystem built around DOT as well as deprived CEFS holders of the DOT they would have received from those listings had they gone through the normal listing process.

They also stripped out all of the functionality from the site that wasn't purely an "exchange", dismantling the eco system that had been built and cultivated around our original slogan of "Your one stop Crypto shop" and aims to be a blockchain services platform and turned it into something completely foreign to the site that had been the initial draw for users.

They tried to sell the company out from under us 3 separate times.

If they had not been removed in November the company would have been bankrupt in December, but we didn't find this out until after we removed them forcibly, no one had any idea the dire situation they had gotten the company into, or that it would not have been able to afford their own next invoice.

I believe the Hack was orchestrated to bury everything they have done, and was planned to happen before we removed them so that it could tidily explain the state they had gotten the company into. And then rushed after their plan was interrupted when they were forcibly removed from the company.

They are now partnered with ANZ a bank that refused Cryptopia banking services, and PWC a firm that was supposed to be providing Cryptopia counsel on various legal matters, working on projects Cryptopia was gearing up to work on.


Source : https://steempeak.com/palnet/@vcdragon/version-of-the-story-of-cryptopia-from-developer-him-self-how-it-start-and-end?fbclid=iwar1gvicszyrsgp8mso03c2ctddkdzvxeqcvtwzd6hrlj7rgpkon-azv-meu
hero member
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All this delay is making someone who is working on an hourly or weekly or monthly basis more rich.  I doubt they are getting paid by the job.  Anyone know?
newbie
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cryptopia exit scammed rip
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Can you guys go and pick apart each other's posts in another thread, and keep this one to the topic at hand? kthx.

Agreed. Every time I come to this thread for new info these fucking numb nuts are waving their dicks at each other.
legendary
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Can you guys go and pick apart each other's posts in another thread, and keep this one to the topic at hand? kthx.
legendary
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(look kids - xtraelv is still modifying his posts)...

he deleted pointing out me "at least..being honest in shilling shitcoins"

remember xtraelv your dear cryptopia is a shitcoin exchange  Tongue

@xtraelv
just being in this thread you all are already tainted with "shitcoins" ....you SHITCOINERS HAHA YOU AND ME  Cheesy so don't give it an "exaggerated bad" name

You forgot the part where I said something along the line of (without considering the "shilling" part) . Shilling is not really honest - is it ?

Partly because the post was directed more at timelord rather than you.

You have been quite direct and straightforward with your conversation with me while timelord avoids answering any questions


well I'm honestly buying and selling on exchanges and WTB WTS threads back then...what happened to "mine first, shill later"? hehe
legendary
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
(look kids - xtraelv is still modifying his posts)...

he deleted pointing out me "at least..being honest in shilling shitcoins"

remember xtraelv your dear cryptopia is a shitcoin exchange  Tongue

@xtraelv
just being in this thread you all are already tainted with "shitcoins" ....you SHITCOINERS HAHA YOU AND ME  Cheesy so don't give it an "exaggerated bad" name

You forgot the part where I said something along the line of (without considering the "shilling" part) . Shilling is not really honest - is it ?

Partly because the post was directed more at timelord rather than you.

You have been quite direct and straightforward with your conversation with me while timelord avoids answering any questions
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1059
(look kids - xtraelv is still modifying his posts)...

he deleted pointing out me "at least..being honest in shilling shitcoins"

remember xtraelv your dear cryptopia is a shitcoin exchange  Tongue

@xtraelv
just being in this thread you all are already tainted with "shitcoins" ....you SHITCOINERS HAHA YOU AND ME  Cheesy so don't give it an "exaggerated bad" name
legendary
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
Meanwhile in xtraelv-land...

...and my MoonCoin wallet donation address has just become:- 2aiEPxCzDDeud6YA42xRZz2iyzDPbU4671

Welcome aboard from Timelord2067

Hot Dam!m!m!m! - My Cryptsy Mooncoin wallet address!

Another exchange full of scammers run by scammers!

xtraelv just shot himself in the other foot - to dA m00N!

 Roll Eyes

I really do wonder what planet you are from.

How is this shooting myself in the foot ? Im really missing the logic here.

Silly me - my mistake --- it must have been ... (wait for it)...

CoinEX.PW exchange - run by the scamming duo captainfuture and erundook

Please support the following two Flag Requests:

Flag on erundook - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=87
Flag on captainfuture - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=88

Don;t forget to give negative Feedback / Trust to

erundook https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=114495 and

captainfuture https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=120370

if you were affected by their scam.

(look kids - xtraelv is still modifying his posts)...

And that has what relevance to me ?
legendary
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💲🏎️💨🚓
Meanwhile in xtraelv-land...

...and my MoonCoin wallet donation address has just become:- 2aiEPxCzDDeud6YA42xRZz2iyzDPbU4671

Welcome aboard from Timelord2067

Hot Dam!m!m!m! - My Cryptsy Mooncoin wallet address!

Another exchange full of scammers run by scammers!

xtraelv just shot himself in the other foot - to dA m00N!

 Roll Eyes

I really do wonder what planet you are from.

How is this shooting myself in the foot ? Im really missing the logic here.

Silly me - my mistake --- it must have been ... (wait for it)...

CoinEX.PW exchange - run by the scamming duo captainfuture and erundook

Please support the following two Flag Requests:

Flag on erundook - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=87
Flag on captainfuture - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=88

Don;t forget to give negative Feedback / Trust to

erundook https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=114495 and

captainfuture https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=120370

if you were affected by their scam.

(look kids - xtraelv is still modifying his posts)...
legendary
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
Meanwhile in xtraelv-land...

...and my MoonCoin wallet donation address has just become:- 2aiEPxCzDDeud6YA42xRZz2iyzDPbU4671

Welcome aboard from Timelord2067

Hot Dam!m!m!m! - My Cryptsy Mooncoin wallet address!

Another exchange full of scammers run by scammers!

xtraelv just shot himself in the other foot - to dA m00N!

 Roll Eyes

I really do wonder what planet you are from.

How is this shooting myself in the foot ? Im really missing the logic here.

How is you shilling a shitcoin shooting myself in the foot ? Im really looking forward to this explanation.
legendary
Activity: 3696
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💲🏎️💨🚓
Meanwhile in xtraelv-land...

...and my MoonCoin wallet donation address has just become:- 2aiEPxCzDDeud6YA42xRZz2iyzDPbU4671

Welcome aboard from Timelord2067

Hot Dam!m!m!m! - My Cryptsy Mooncoin wallet address!

Another exchange full of scammers run by scammers!

xtraelv just shot himself in the other foot - to dA m00N!

 Roll Eyes
legendary
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When a file is modified 3 months before it was created it usually means that the computer clock has been manipulated. So it proves shit.

It is a bit like saying you were born after your first birthday.

I have files on my computer that were apparently modified before they were created. Defies logic, but that's how it is. Probably a Windows thing.

I suspect that modification time refers to when it was literally modified [on another file system or device], and creation time may refer to the local copy being created.

I agree that there are other possible explanations. But usually it means that the clock has been altered or it has been moved from one media to another.
It can also be modified with the use of a simple tool.

GUIminer is still available for download. My version is from 2012. Downloaded today.

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scrolled down a bit..these saved configs are not available for download  Wink



mining beam..maybe beam is gonna fail too LOL  Grin
legendary
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
When a file is modified 3 months before it was created it usually means that the computer clock has been manipulated. So it proves shit.

It is a bit like saying you were born after your first birthday.

I have files on my computer that were apparently modified before they were created. Defies logic, but that's how it is. Probably a Windows thing.

I suspect that modification time refers to when it was literally modified [on another file system or device], and creation time may refer to the local copy being created.

I agree that there are other possible explanations. But usually it means that the clock has been altered or it has been moved from one media to another.
It can also be modified with the use of a simple tool.

GUIminer is still available for download. My version is from 2012. Downloaded today.

...if only i could login to my cryptsy account i'll show you some screens too LOL


I've lost crypto on other exchanges before. It stinks.
The Cryptopia loss hurts more cause I trusted them and I'm disappointed at some of the things that occurred.
I'm conflicted as to where all the blame lies.

It appears that at this stage there is no deadline for filling out claim forms but it appears that account holders do have to fill out the claim forms.

https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/faqs-cryptopia-liquidation/

https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/globalassets/1.-member-firms/new-zealand/pdfs/first-liquidators-report-31-05-2019.pdf



legendary
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When a file is modified 3 months before it was created it usually means that the computer clock has been manipulated. So it proves shit.

It is a bit like saying you were born after your first birthday.

I have files on my computer that were apparently modified before they were created. Defies logic, but that's how it is. Probably a Windows thing.

I suspect that modification time refers to when it was literally modified [on another file system or device], and creation time may refer to the local copy being created.
legendary
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Merit: 1059



Let me help you with this pic.

When a file is modified 3 months before it was created it usually means that the computer clock has been manipulated. So it proves shit.

It is a bit like saying you were born after your first birthday.

well.. i dunno man, i don't pay to much attention to those details, maybe some smart detectives can explain here why did that happen hehe, guiminer mines scrypt coins, it proves that i'm into crypto in 2013 and mooncoin was launched new year 2014.

regarding computer clock, it was a screenshot of one of my old miner rig, BIOS battery fuck ups, pc config etc, i don't pay attention to it as long as it mines coins i'm fine...still it is 2013

i just think it might help you since accusing me that i bought this 2013 account....if only i could login to my cryptsy account i'll show you some screens too LOL

but hey, found someone who vouch for me in this thread even though he didn't intend to  Grin


Btw hello arielbit,I remember you trollin fud from dash thread since 2015 cause the name from your shitcoin dashcoin hehe !  Grin



dashcoin ann: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dsh-dashcoin-cryptonote-automated-source-678232

OP date July 05, 2014, 11:31:39 AM (I early mined this shit BTW)

so 2015 is cleared, now 2014 too.........who from 2014 buys a late 2013 (December) account? LOL
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Jail time soon...
legendary
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฿ear ride on the rainbow slide
now for people who is looking for Ben, you might want to ask xtraelv  Wink

Don't bother asking. I haven't spoken to him for months.

let me help you with that pic buddy, it seems you are having a hard time  Wink that miner proves i was a miner back in 2013 until now, it was a scrypt miner, means i mined mooncoin and other scrypt algo coins.



Let me help you with this pic.

When a file is modified 3 months before it was created it usually means that the computer clock has been manipulated. So it proves shit.

It is a bit like saying you were born after your first birthday.


Typical. Nothing to say when confronted by evidence of your lies.


Your moon buddy really needs to be defended by you.

...and my MoonCoin wallet donation address has just become:- 2aiEPxCzDDeud6YA42xRZz2iyzDPbU4671

Welcome aboard from Timelord2067




You keep modifying your posts - this time around it's fifteen hours later...

No one can be sure what you are saying or how to respond to it because you just keep going back and changing your post.

I've removed my distrust of Lafu because he just plays follow the leader and does whatever xtraelv tells him to think.  Sad really...

Time to step away from the keyboard xtraelv and stop Trolling for a couple of hours.

 Roll Eyes

Until you respond I can edit the post as many times without affecting the context of what you say.  I like to avoid breaking the forum rules by posting sequential posts.

Ironic that you were the one that got caught editing a post that implicated yourself in your own lies.

It is easy to respond. Just quote the part that you are responding to and archive the post as proof. If you look at the edit history you can see that I haven't edited the post since you responded.

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