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February 27, 2019, 01:09:47 AM
#94
merci Ginette.
Dont 20 millions (en gros) = 10% des holding
Ce qui fait qu'ils ont en gros 200 milions


Reste a savoir comment ils vont repartir la perte.
-10% a tout le monde ?
uniquement a ceux qui ont des ETH/ERC20 ?



Edit :
Sinon, xtraelv (un modérateur volontaire sur le chat de cryptopia)  a créé  un topic pour recenser tous les messages officiels de la police ou de cryptopia.
Unofficial thread - announcements regarding the Cryptopia security breach.

finalement 10% c'est pas insurmontable.
ça redonne espoir de revoir mes fractions de BTC  :-D
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February 27, 2019, 12:35:53 AM
#93
merci Ginette.
Dont 20 millions (en gros) = 10% des holding
Ce qui fait qu'ils ont en gros 200 milions

Reste a savoir comment ils vont repartir la perte.
-10% a tout le monde ?
uniquement a ceux qui ont des ETH/ERC20 ?

Edit :
Sinon, xtraelv (un modérateur volontaire sur le chat de cryptopia)  a créé  un topic pour recenser tous les messages officiels de la police ou de cryptopia.
Unofficial thread - announcements regarding the Cryptopia security breach.

Now I know why xtraelv has been hijacking my posts concerning Cryptopia, he started a thread TEN DAYS after mine:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptopia-online-articles-related-to-hack-theft-of-funds-2022-non-discussion-5097916 Cryptopia - ONLINE ARTICLES related to hack & theft of funds 2019

I'm sorry it's not in French, but if you have any links to contribute, I would appreciate receiving them.  Merci.



(Google)

Maintenant que je sais pourquoi xtraelv a détourné mes publications sur Cryptopia, il a lancé un fil après DIX JOURS après le mien: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptopia-online-articles-related-to-hack-theft-of-funds-2022-non-discussion-5097916 Cryptopia - ARTICLES EN LIGNE liés à piratage et vol de fonds 2019

Je suis désolé, ce n'est pas en français, mais si vous avez des liens à contribuer, j'aimerais les recevoir. Merci
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February 26, 2019, 09:45:33 PM
#92
merci Ginette.
Dont 20 millions (en gros) = 10% des holding
Ce qui fait qu'ils ont en gros 200 milions


Reste a savoir comment ils vont repartir la perte.
-10% a tout le monde ?
uniquement a ceux qui ont des ETH/ERC20 ?



Edit :
Sinon, xtraelv (un modérateur volontaire sur le chat de cryptopia)  a créé  un topic pour recenser tous les messages officiels de la police ou de cryptopia.
Unofficial thread - announcements regarding the Cryptopia security breach.
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February 26, 2019, 09:22:49 PM
#91
Nouveau tweet de Cryptopia...
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February 25, 2019, 05:06:39 PM
#90
Se relever d'un Hack c'est jamais évident, il faut attendre le résultat de l’enquête (erreur technique ou humaine ?)
Laisser ses coins serait un paris risqué, sauf incitation comme achat d'action (Cf Kucoin)


Par contre dire que c'est un petit Exchange   Roll Eyes vu les volumes je le qualifierais d'exchange majeur, qui plus est, "avec de l'experience" car il a bien 4 5 ans

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February 25, 2019, 11:25:31 AM
#89
Cryptopia aurait apparement donné des nouvelles sur Discord




source : https://nulltx.com/new-cryptopia-update-confirms-users-will-not-access-funds-for-a-while/

Merci pour l'info.

Si il relancent la machine, ils ont intérêt à mettre en place de sacrés bonus sur le fees pour motiver les clients à revenir. (sans parler de  comment ils vont gérer les fonds perdus...)
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February 25, 2019, 08:00:49 AM
#88
Cryptopia aurait apparement donné des nouvelles sur Discord




source : https://nulltx.com/new-cryptopia-update-confirms-users-will-not-access-funds-for-a-while/
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February 20, 2019, 04:22:58 PM
#87
Ce serait tout de meme bien de les traduires pour les non Anglophones comme moi qui ont subit le hack...
Je n'ai d’ailleurs jamais demandé une suppression, loin de moi cette idée !
 

Pas de soucis, je vais te faire un recap de la situation avec Ben et Timelord :


J'ai bien conscience que leurs interventions et mes réponses sont presque du hors sujet.
Mais en meme temps ils sont venu défendre leur "honneur" par rapport a mon premier message.
Dans mon premier message (qui a eu plusieurs "edit" de ma part) j'indiquait que Cryptopia subissait pas mal de critiques/d'accusations  dont certaines de exit scam.
N'ayant pas éplucher tous les topics (il y a en a au moins 3 traitant de Cryptopia et insinuant un scam) j'ai mis tous les crabes dans le meme panier et ai utilise le nom de Timelord pour décrire la clique qui insinue que cryptopia est un scam.
Il semblerait que j'ai fais une erreur de jugement, Timelord n'aurait pas insinué que Cryptopia est un scam mais uniquement fait part du fait qu'il ne se passe pas grand chose niveau communication (c'est aussi mon point de vue, merde alors, le CEO n'a pas encore un communiqué de presse)
Bref, je me suis excuse pour cette erreur, et ai édite mon post, blanchissant timelord par la meme occasion. 

Dans le cas de Ben (quel troll ce ben) il voulais me discréditer car j'ai dis qu'il était modo volontaire alors qu’en fait il est paye/rémunéré.
Il part dans un trip de 3 ou 4 messages juste pour en venir a cette conclusion alors que une phrase aurait fait de meme.


D’ailleurs pour limiter les échanges en anglais ici j'ai envoyé deux MP a Timelord car tu/vous avez raison, la board FR doit est en FR.
Il y a assez de drama en meta. On a pas besoin de ca ici.



Sinon, pour en revenir au hack,
On ne sais pas (pour l'instant) comment les utilisateurs vont etre impactes.
Vont-ils faire subir la perte aux 2 millions de users. Au prorata  des holdings ? un tarif fixe (10$ * 2 000 000 = 20 000 000 = montant des pertes ?)
Von't ils faire subir la perte uniquement aux users qui avait les actifs manquant. Par exemple on sait (sauf erreur de ma part) que seule les ERC20 et ETH on ete hacke.
Donc vont-ils uniquement répercuter la perte sur les détenteurs de ces actifs ?
Ou alors, vont-ils vendres des actions de cryptopia pour rembourser les utilisateurs ?
Vont -ils émettre un IOU token (un "bon" / lettre de dette) remboursable en fonction des profits de l'entreprises ...
Persone ne sais pour l'instant.
Etant sur place et ayant des connaissance qui y travaillent j'eseyerais de glaner des infos.
Je me suis restrain de contacter mes connaissance car durant l’enquête ils n'auraient rien pu me dire.
Mais j'ai l'impression que meme après l’enquête, ils ne vont pas être très bavard.




@timelord and @Ben,

Feel free to share news articles,  infographics, blockchain TX if those haven't yet been shared.
But for everyday chit-chat  it would be much appreciated to keep it to minimal.
Cheers


FR : les anglophones peut partager des articles, des infographies, des analyses de transaction blockchain, mais sinon il vaut mieux limiter les échanges a la langue Française.
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February 20, 2019, 01:09:50 PM
#86
Ce serait tout de meme bien de les traduires pour les non Anglophones comme moi qui ont subit le hack...
Je n'ai d’ailleurs jamais demandé une suppression, loin de moi cette idée !
 
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February 20, 2019, 11:18:07 AM
#85
Oui je n'ai pas effacé car ça reste intéressant et dans le topic. Ce n'est pas un spammer qui vient poser son ref comme on pose une pêche.

Et puis si cestmoi finit en prison, je ne veux pas être accusé de complicité en effaçant ses traces et être extradé au fin fond d'une prison du fin fond de la NZ Smiley.
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February 20, 2019, 10:34:58 AM
#84
Excusez moi mais nous sommes dans la partie Française, ce serait tout de meme bien de traduire.

Je suis d'accord mais ils ont jsute réagi a un post de cestmoi.

Bien que ce soit contre les règles j'espère que Halab va laisser les posts, car ils ont une valeur ajoutée ou de référence pour le futur.
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February 20, 2019, 10:15:02 AM
#83
En tout cas merci cestmoi de jouer le role du reporter ici.
ça me permet de me tenir informé, et qui sait, un jour récupérer les quelques billes que j'avais laissé sur cette échange  :-/
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February 20, 2019, 06:12:45 AM
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Excusez moi mais nous sommes dans la partie Française, ce serait tout de meme bien de traduire.
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February 20, 2019, 05:19:20 AM
#81
@timelord
Indeed I may be mistaken on this point.
I skimmed the English thread to get the feeling.
It looked like you were against lafu and xtralev. And I know for a fact that they are loyal to cryptopia.
It made you a vilain in my eyes.

I should not have included you in the "autres" (others) that are saying that cryptopia is a scam. My apologies, I will edit my post.

I agree with you on the point that cryptopia CEO should at least do some kind of press release about the current situation. This is not some kind of FBI / DOD terrorist attack. It is a roberry.

By now they should know how much was taken and what they are going to do about missing funds. Mutualise the losses ? Give free shares ? Issue an IOU coin ? Sell assets (shares) to reimburse....

Thank-you for your understanding.  Many people have lost funds over the last 18 months - a statement released via a solicitor outlining a course forward and explaining that their hands are tied would go a long way to assuring the masses that something is being done.

I'm at a loss to predict which way Cryptopia will go.  Their response to the second round of 51% attacks (and let's not forget the coins under attack were drained from Cryptopia's funds without any of their 80 staff noticing) was to just ditch 100+ coins and let the masses clamor to withdraw funds.  Runs like that are how banks collapse in the real world, so we are seeing a mirror of the real world being played out in the Crypto world.

At last count I'd heard there were close to 2 million registered users of Cryptopia. Issuing stock to that many users would require vast amounts of resources just to gather KYC information, some of which the masses might not want to provide for their own reasons.

I'm wondering if the attack at week +2 (post ETH attack) that some say wasn't an attack has locked Cryptopia's staff out of their own exchange with the hacker really holding the keys to all hot (and cold??) wallets.  It would explain why the front page has not been updated.



If you would prefer I refrain from posting further in this thread, just say so and I'll be on my way.

Thanks for your understanding, tempers and well meaning people tend to rub against each-other in troubling times.
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February 20, 2019, 03:37:58 AM
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@timelord
Indeed I may be mistaken on this point.
I skimmed the English thread to get the feeling.
It looked like you were against lafu and xtralev. And I know for a fact that they are loyal to cryptopia.
It made you a vilain in my eyes.

I should not have included you in the "autres" (others) that are saying that cryptopia is a scam. My apologies, I will edit my post.

I agree with you on the point that cryptopia CEO should at least do some kind of press release about the current situation. This is not some kind of FBI / DOD terrorist attack. It is a roberry.

By now they should know how much was taken and what they are going to do about missing funds. Mutualise the losses ? Give free shares ? Issue an IOU coin ? Sell assets (shares) to reimburse....

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February 20, 2019, 02:29:31 AM
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En gros, Timelord et d'autres accusent Cryptopia d’être un exist scam uniquement base sur le fait que depuis 1 mois rien n'a bouge.

Um no.

I have been trying to tell xtraelv and Lafu (and by extension "Ben") that there are three online articles which state categorically that the CEO has been instructed to say nothing and that they (xtraelv, lafu and "Ben") should also refrain from saying anything.

xtraelv then turned it into an attack on me including placing me on his DT negative list after he tried to hijack my thread concerning online articles about Cryptopia.

You've done some great work posting photos and reporting from Christchurch, but you're mistaken when you say that I've said it's an exit scam.

Feel free to post any proof to the contrary here or in the main Cryptopia (English) thread.

I apologise for not speaking French.
Do you know who "Dave" is?
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February 19, 2019, 11:49:11 AM
#78
Ok. Since you won't contact the police with the information you have provided here, I'm starting to doubt your statement. More FUD by the sounds of it.

C'est qui ce mec, il prend cestmoi pour un sheriff ou quoi Cheesy

En tout cas merci pour tes retours sur cette affaire cestmoi Wink
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February 18, 2019, 10:37:10 PM
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Ok. Since you won't contact the police with the information you have provided here, I'm starting to doubt your statement. More FUD by the sounds of it.

OMG you are a troll level 9000 !

beginning of Edit :
If you were in the discord, it says what I am... Anyone could have checked
Are you "Ben Dxxxxxx". (i don't want to doxx you, so i will not put the rest of the family name).
If you are, then you are not a troll, you are just not very good at communicating and a bit fast a jumping on your guns ! End of edit


If you haven't noticed this is the french part of the forum,
Do you see people posting in Russian, Spanish, Greek in the English section, so why are you posting in English here ?


You know what, you report me to the police based on what i have written, if they want to talk to me they can contact me here.
I will gladly go and talk to them, and will tell them who gave me the information once they provide all the necessary paperwork.

That information was given to me to the condition that i don't divulgue my source.
This is New Zealand, not Russia, they want to know who told me what, they provide a paper from a judge and i will break the anonymity of the source.

Now, at the time of me getting the information (17th of November)  I only shared it with my family and a couple of mates (one of them was like, "no way you are right, i know the guys, they are doing great things" edit : if you are Ben D. my mate may even have offered you to check with you if my information was legit, at that time you were in America end of edit).
Since it was just a recommendation from a former employee I restrained myself from going to the media or sharing on Facebook or here.
I don't / didn't care about fame or buzzing. I just made sure i gave the info to the people that mattered to me just in case there was some right behind the info.
Spreading FUD is not my type.

But i see that you are quite butt-hurt by the situation, and obviously only "google translated" part of my message.
I wrote a message praising cryptopia  and that i've been a customer for years and referred about 20 new customers.
You are the one hand picking part of my message trying to do who knows what with my writings.
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February 18, 2019, 09:49:19 PM
#76
Ok. Since you won't contact the police with the information you have provided here, I'm starting to doubt your statement. More FUD by the sounds of it.
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February 18, 2019, 09:42:16 PM
#75


I do moderate Discord, I'm just not a volunteer.

I updated my original with this new information : you are a paid moderator of their discord.
It makes you a contractor or an employed.

Which one are you ?

If you were in the discord, it says what I am... Anyone could have checked
Dude, this is not discord, no one wants to go to discord to find out who you are.
Either you say what you are, or you don't and no one cares ?  (did i hurt your feeling ?).
I made a mistake assuming you were a "volunteer" moderator when a french member asked who was that newbie account acting like the messiah.
I was still kind of right, you are a moderator, just not doing it for free.
So now, if you are paid like an employed or as a contractor who cares.




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