Custom RAM Timings for GPU's with GDDR5 - DOWNLOAD LINKS - UPDATED - page 60.

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Quote from: niko2004x on February 05, 2017, 08:11:51 PM

For the sake of scientific discovery collected 640+ bioses for R? [234]?? cards and written parser to extract timing table and related tables.
Here is the question.
Is there a proper way to determine size of timing table?

The segmentation of the timing straps differs for different series, so you have to use many different parsing rules to get the right numbers.
You have to gather all the required data.

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Can some one let me know if these values are right please?

2000 Hynix
19   TRCDW
19   TRCDWA
27   TRCDR
27   TRCDRA
8   TRRD
83   TRC
0   TNOPW
0   TNOPR
24   TR2W
2   TCCDL
5   TR2R
21   TW2R
19   TCL
62   TRPWRA
15   TRPRDA
13   TRP
197   TRFC

Strap : BBB000000000000022889D0073EE8D53805515133ECF560C004E26017E0514206A8900A00200312 01C143840C5303F17

niko2004x

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For the sake of scientific discovery collected 640+ bioses for R? [234]?? cards and written parser to extract timing table and related tables.
Here is the question.
Is there a proper way to determine size of timing table?

dallase

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Quote from: kemo6600 on February 05, 2017, 02:44:47 AM

Almost all of my cards runs error free at 1900 , above that some start to showing error .

I have one card that wont go over 1865mhz, even at stock voltages... Cry

Quote from: kemo6600 on February 05, 2017, 02:44:47 AM

Well, all my cards are in rigs, so in order for me to play around, I have to take one down. So its a pain in the ass to test these theories.

I dont have a dev system to test with. If I want to play with memory timings, I have to take a rig down Cry

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Quote from: dallase on February 04, 2017, 08:39:24 PM

Well, that is eth+dcr, so 27.19mh eth and 405mh dcr.

I have to keep my 470's in the 1925-1945 range, otherwise, optiminer blows up terribly even with low intensity zec mining.

RX 470 Nitro 1500 mhz strap @1100/1900 easily pulls 27.3 mh ETH + 396 mh DCR @ Dcri 29 .

Almost all of my cards runs error free at 1900 , above that some start to showing error .

I have seen Wolf saying that he is doing 2000+ MHz memory and 29+ mh , perhaps the it is either 1500/1650 strap mix and doing 2000+ Mhz or 1375/1500 strap mix and doing 1900 MHz .

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Quote from: kemo6600 on February 04, 2017, 04:37:09 PM

Quote from: dallase on February 03, 2017, 02:40:16 PM

Quote from: Zorg33 on February 03, 2017, 02:02:16 PM

We are curious about your results

I didnt have time in the past few days to continue experimenting, but hopefuly at the weekend.

Only real test I've done so far is running eth+dcr under the regular 1500 straps then under the modded 1500 straps.

1101/1921/1500str => 27.03 eth
1101/1921/1500mod => 27.19 eth

Just a bit better.

Maybe you should use less tight timings to clock above 2000 mhz?

Well, that is eth+dcr, so 27.19mh eth and 405mh dcr.

I have to keep my 470's in the 1925-1945 range, otherwise, optiminer blows up terribly even with low intensity zec mining.

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Quote from: Wolf0 on February 01, 2017, 05:43:18 AM

Quote from: Foss on February 01, 2017, 05:20:03 AM

Share please good straps for 290x elpida bbbg. On zec have 337 H/s, 1050/1500 mHz.

Thread is for technical details, not begging.

How about this set of tech details

msi 470 4gb with hynix ram

xmr rom for max h per watts.

I can sit down and learn to do a custom rom.

but I simply want details like what is best result on the msi rx 470 watt per hash.

So I can decide if it is worth my time to do it myself.

What I never see is watts per card per h .

I have no need to do anything but under clock + under volt

Basically I want to know what would a msi rx 470 4gb gaming gpu will burn in watts at 500 h not what it burns when mining at 650h or 700h

I read all the info on overclock and undervolt.

I want info on underclock and undervolt.

I know what I can do with manual settings and I can do

500h 550h 600h and 650h all manually with not much effort

so what does an msi rx 470 do with a custom xmr mod?

I have 28 rx msi 470's doing xmr They run at about 500h with stock rom and a simple under clock at simplemining.net
I can alter the underclock to an overclock.
I can run with windows but frankly is it worth it to me to spend the time to do a better rom tweaked for low volts and under clock?

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Quote from: dallase on February 03, 2017, 02:40:16 PM

Quote from: Zorg33 on February 03, 2017, 02:02:16 PM

We are curious about your results

I didnt have time in the past few days to continue experimenting, but hopefuly at the weekend.

Only real test I've done so far is running eth+dcr under the regular 1500 straps then under the modded 1500 straps.

1101/1921/1500str => 27.03 eth
1101/1921/1500mod => 27.19 eth

Just a bit better.

Maybe you should use less tight timings to clock above 2000 mhz?

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It was only the wind.

Quote from: Foss on February 01, 2017, 05:20:03 AM

Share please good straps for 290x elpida bbbg. On zec have 337 H/s, 1050/1500 mHz.

Thread is for technical details, not begging.

niko2004x

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Quote from: zigun on February 04, 2017, 02:04:06 PM

RAS and CAS timings the same, MISC differ

They are exactly the same (RAS, CAS, MISC but not entire strap), just encoded differently for MISC
(current info in this thread about decoding MISC for RX seems partially wrong) and of course different offsets.
But why?

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Quote from: niko2004x on February 04, 2017, 01:58:47 PM

Question.
Here is the strap table for Hynix H5GC4H24AJR (according to amdmeminfo) in stock r9 390:
Why does it looks so different from Hynix H5GC4H24AJR in rx 480/470?

It`s because of memory banks has several revisions - 0.2ns/0.25ns/0.28ns/0.3ns/etc.

zigun

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Quote from: niko2004x on February 04, 2017, 01:58:47 PM

Question.
Here is the strap table for Hynix H5GC4H24AJR (according to amdmeminfo) in stock r9 390:

Code:

400  555133200000000084941212f0540b07150973020020410022dd1c081b0414209a8800a00000012006050d0e270f160e
800  7771332000000000e7ac352210550d0a208ef5040024810022dd1c08340914209a8800a0000001200c08171b4f172110
900  77713320000000002931462620550e0b220f96050026a20022dd1c083c0a1420aa8800a0000001200d0a1a1d59192311
1000 777133200000000029b5462930550e0c249026060026a20022dd1c08440b1420aa8800a0000001200e0a1c20621b2511
1125 77713320000000006bbd572f40550f0d2892f7060048c50022ff1c084c0d14205a8900a000000120100c20246f1e2912
1250 77713320000000008cc5583460550f0f2c94b8070048c50022ff1c085c0f14205a8900a000000120120d23287b222d13
1375 7771332000000000cecd5939805511112e1589080048c60022339d086c0014206a8900a002000120140f262b88252f15
1425 7771332000000000ce516a3b805511112f96d908004ae60022339d086c0014206a8900a002000120150f272d8d263015
1500 7771332000000000ce516a3d9055111230964909004ae60022339d08740114206a8900a002000120150f292f94273116
1625 999133200000000010de7b448055131237194b0a004c060122559d08750414206a8900a00200012018112d34a42a3816
1750 999133200000000031627c4890551313399adb0a004c060122559d087d0514206a8900a00200012019123037ad2c3a17
2000 bbb133200000000073ee8d53805515133e9e5d0c004e260122889d087e0514206a8900a0020001201c143840c5303f17

Why does it looks so different from Hynix H5GC4H24AJR in rx 480/470?

RAS and CAS timings the same, MISC differ

Wolf0

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It was only the wind.

Quote from: niko2004x on January 31, 2017, 02:54:56 PM

Because it is not 7 bits?
This is from linux kernel.

Code:

#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRP_WRA_MASK 0x3f
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRP_WRA__SHIFT 0x0
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRP_RDA_MASK 0x3f00
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRP_RDA__SHIFT 0x8
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRP_MASK 0xf8000
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRP__SHIFT 0xf
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRFC_MASK 0x1ff00000
#define MC_SEQ_MISC_TIMING_LP__TRFC__SHIFT 0x14

Surely 0x1ff00000 gives 9 bits?

The way i see it, it should be decoded as (highter to lower bits):

Code:

Bits("unused3", 3), #Unused
Bits("TRFC", 9),    #Auto-refresh command period - 1
Bits("TRP", 5),     #Precharge command period - 1
Bits("unused2", 1), #Unused but defined as 1
Bits("TRP_RDA", 6), #From read with auto-precharge to active - 1
Bits("unused1", 2), #Unused
Bits("TRP_WRA", 6), #From write with auto-precharge to active - 1

If so then MISC_TIMING decodes from 1500 hynix strap as

Code:

unused3 = 0
TRFC = 148
TRP = 9
unused2 = 1
TRP_RDA = 11
unused1 = 0
TRP_WRA = 48

I am more interested why unused2 contains data. Did i miss something?

Unused2 ain't unused :3

niko2004x

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Question.
Here is the strap table for Hynix H5GC4H24AJR (according to amdmeminfo) in stock r9 390:

Code:

400  555133200000000084941212f0540b07150973020020410022dd1c081b0414209a8800a00000012006050d0e270f160e
800  7771332000000000e7ac352210550d0a208ef5040024810022dd1c08340914209a8800a0000001200c08171b4f172110
900  77713320000000002931462620550e0b220f96050026a20022dd1c083c0a1420aa8800a0000001200d0a1a1d59192311
1000 777133200000000029b5462930550e0c249026060026a20022dd1c08440b1420aa8800a0000001200e0a1c20621b2511
1125 77713320000000006bbd572f40550f0d2892f7060048c50022ff1c084c0d14205a8900a000000120100c20246f1e2912
1250 77713320000000008cc5583460550f0f2c94b8070048c50022ff1c085c0f14205a8900a000000120120d23287b222d13
1375 7771332000000000cecd5939805511112e1589080048c60022339d086c0014206a8900a002000120140f262b88252f15
1425 7771332000000000ce516a3b805511112f96d908004ae60022339d086c0014206a8900a002000120150f272d8d263015
1500 7771332000000000ce516a3d9055111230964909004ae60022339d08740114206a8900a002000120150f292f94273116
1625 999133200000000010de7b448055131237194b0a004c060122559d08750414206a8900a00200012018112d34a42a3816
1750 999133200000000031627c4890551313399adb0a004c060122559d087d0514206a8900a00200012019123037ad2c3a17
2000 bbb133200000000073ee8d53805515133e9e5d0c004e260122889d087e0514206a8900a0020001201c143840c5303f17

Why does it looks so different from Hynix H5GC4H24AJR in rx 480/470?

dallase

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Quote from: zigun on February 03, 2017, 04:12:44 PM

Standard 1375 MHz strap for Hynix in RX470 4Gb
77 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 22 33 9D 00 CE CD 59 39 80 55 11 11 AE 8A 84 08 00 48 C6 00 6C 00 14 20 6A 89 00 A0 02 00 31 20 14 0F 26 2B 88 25 2F 15 A4 2C 02 01

SEQ_RAS [14 14 19 19 5 57] right?

yes

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There were whitespaces in the post above so I edited and removed all the white space. Here are the clean straps

480/8Samsung K4G80325FB
1376-1500
555000000000000022CC1C00AD595B41C0570E14B00B450A0068C70003011420FA8900A00300000 0170E2B34A42A3116
1501-1625
555000000000000022CC1C00CE616C47D0570F15B48C250B006AE7000B031420FA8900A00300000 0190F2F39B22D3517
1626-1750
777000000000000022CC1C00106A6D4DD0571016B90D060C006AE70014051420FA8900A00300000 01B11333DC0303A17
1751-2000
777000000000000022CC1C0031F67E57F05711183FCFB60D006C070124081420FA8900A00300000 01E123A46DB354019

480/4Hynix H5GC4H24AJR
1426-1500
777000000000000022339D00CE516A3D9055111230CB4409004AE600740114206A8900A00200312 0150F292F94273116
1501-1625
999000000000000022559D0010DE7B4480551312B78C450A004C0601750414206A8900A00200312 018112D34A42A3816
1626-1750
999000000000000022559D0031627C489055131339CDD50A004C06017D0514206A8900A00200312 019123037AD2C3A17
1751-2000
BBB000000000000022889D0073EE8D53805515133ECF560C004E26017E0514206A8900A00200312 01C143840C5303F17

480/4Micron!!!EDW4032BABGYes,It`sMICRON(notELPIDA),justreadthedatasheetGrin
1426-1500
777000000000000022AA1C00315A6B3CA0550F15B68C1506006AE4007C041420CA8980A9020004C 01712262B612B3715
1501-1625
777000000000000022AA1C0073627C41B0551016BA0D9606006C060104061420EA8940AA030004C 01914292E692E3B16
1626-1750
777000000000000022AA1C00B56A7D46C0551017BE8E1607006C07010C081420FA8900AB030004C 01B162C3171313F17
1751-2000
999000000000000022AA1C0018F77E4FD055121946501708006C07011D0C1420FA8980AC030004C 01E19323781364718

480/4Samsung K4G41325FE
1426-1500
555000000000000022CC1C00AD515A3EC0570E142D4A64080048C700030114207A8900A00300000 0150E2A3186272E16
1501-1625
555000000000000022CC1C00CE596B44D0570F1531CB2409004AE7000B0314207A8900A00300000 0170F2E36922A3217
1626-1750
777000000000000022CC1C0010626C49D0571016B50BD509004AE700140514207A8900A00300000 0191131399D2C3617
1751-1900
777000000000000022CC1C00106A7D4FE0571117B98CA50A004C07011C0714207A8900A00300000 01B11353FAA2F3A18
1901-2000
777000000000000022CC1C0031EE7D53F05711183BCD350B004C0701240814207A8900A00300000 01C123842B3313C19

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Quote from: dallase on February 03, 2017, 02:42:43 PM

If someone has the strap tables handy from a rx480, I'll be happy to re-run the numbers.

Here`re you go

480/8 Samsung K4G80325FB

Quote

1376-1500
555000000000000022CC1C00AD595B41C0570E14B00B450A0068C70003011420FA8900A00300000 0170E2B34A42A3116
1501-1625
555000000000000022CC1C00CE616C47D0570F15B48C250B006AE7000B031420FA8900A00300000 0190F2F39B22D3517
1626-1750
777000000000000022CC1C00106A6D4DD0571016B90D060C006AE70014051420FA8900A00300000 01B11333DC0303A17
1751-2000
777000000000000022CC1C0031F67E57F05711183FCFB60D006C070124081420FA8900A00300000 01E123A46DB354019

480/4 Hynix H5GC4H24AJR

Quote

1426-1500
777000000000000022339D00CE516A3D9055111230CB4409004AE600740114206A8900A00200312 0150F292F94273116
1501-1625
999000000000000022559D0010DE7B4480551312B78C450A004C0601750414206A8900A00200312 018112D34A42A3816
1626-1750
999000000000000022559D0031627C489055131339CDD50A004C06017D0514206A8900A00200312 019123037AD2C3A17
1751-2000
BBB000000000000022889D0073EE8D53805515133ECF560C004E26017E0514206A8900A00200312 01C143840C5303F17

480/4 Micron!!! EDW4032BABG Yes, It`s MICRON (not ELPIDA), just read the datasheet Grin

Quote

1426-1500
777000000000000022AA1C00315A6B3CA0550F15B68C1506006AE4007C041420CA8980A9020004C 01712262B612B3715
1501-1625
777000000000000022AA1C0073627C41B0551016BA0D9606006C060104061420EA8940AA030004C 01914292E692E3B16
1626-1750
777000000000000022AA1C00B56A7D46C0551017BE8E1607006C07010C081420FA8900AB030004C 01B162C3171313F17
1751-2000
999000000000000022AA1C0018F77E4FD055121946501708006C07011D0C1420FA8980AC030004C 01E19323781364718

480/4 Samsung K4G41325FE

Quote

1426-1500
555000000000000022CC1C00AD515A3EC0570E142D4A64080048C700030114207A8900A00300000 0150E2A3186272E16
1501-1625
555000000000000022CC1C00CE596B44D0570F1531CB2409004AE7000B0314207A8900A00300000 0170F2E36922A3217
1626-1750
777000000000000022CC1C0010626C49D0571016B50BD509004AE700140514207A8900A00300000 0191131399D2C3617
1751-1900
777000000000000022CC1C00106A7D4FE0571117B98CA50A004C07011C0714207A8900A00300000 01B11353FAA2F3A18
1901-2000
777000000000000022CC1C0031EE7D53F05711183BCD350B004C0701240814207A8900A00300000 01C123842B3313C19

zigun

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Standard 1375 MHz strap for Hynix in RX470 4Gb
77 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 22 33 9D 00 CE CD 59 39 80 55 11 11 AE 8A 84 08 00 48 C6 00 6C 00 14 20 6A 89 00 A0 02 00 31 20 14 0F 26 2B 88 25 2F 15 A4 2C 02 01

SEQ_RAS [14 14 19 19 5 57] right?

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