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legendary
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@yun
well..... I dont think it can support all 7.... I get a lot of PCI error messages.... but then again it could be my risers.
I am trying out seating and unseating the risers until i see some action. Gut feel... doesnt look promising.

I'm having problems getting the rig to post into smOS.

PCI errors mainly -- the error dump was scrolling too fast.

sorry man - it doesnt look straight forward this board for 7 cards.

my normal Asrock H81 Pro BTC can do 7 cards with splitter -- 7 x 370s - no issues and smOS & Linux sees all of the GPUs right away.

I have been Googling this board -- there might be something in BIOS to fiddle around. It seems use 4 x 16xPCI OR 3 x 1xPCI only.

I have not tried in Windows yet -- perhaps better results in Win 10.

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I have put back the old 7 x 370 system - works fine on the first try. I recall, I spent hours getting this rig to work on 7 GPUs Windows 7 (works well on W10 out of box).

With Linux/smOS ... its a breeze.... see below. R7-370 x 7 with 3PCI-to USB splitter. Stock roms. Mining XMR at 730watts off the wall.

============ Starting Miner ===============
[20:19:34] Started sgminer 5.5.5-gm-nicehash-7
[20:19:34] config.json Desktop Documents Downloads Music Pictures Public Templates Videos using Jansson 2.7
Usage: atitweak [options]
atitweak: error: option -p: invalid integer value: 'null'
[20:19:38] Probing for an alive pool
[20:19:39] Startup GPU initialization... Using settings from pool cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com.
[20:19:39] Startup Pool No = 0
[20:19:39] Building binary cryptonightPitcairngw8l8.bin
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:43] Initialising kernel cryptonight.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[20:19:50] Accepted 78becd04 Diff 139K/25K GPU 4 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:05] Accepted ba350d59 Diff 90.1K/25K GPU 3 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:06] Accepted 01159d15 Diff 60.4K/25K GPU 4 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:16] Accepted 0197aae8 Diff 41.2K/25K GPU 1 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:19] Accepted 011209d9 Diff 61.2K/25K GPU 4 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:27] Accepted d9ff5d5d Diff 77K/25K GPU 3 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:28] Accepted 13e24ba3 Diff 844K/25K GPU 6 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:29] Accepted 0176027e Diff 44.9K/25K GPU 2 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:20:37] Accepted 023c8b7a Diff 29.3K/25K GPU 2 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:21:17] Accepted 029722dc Diff 25.3K/25K GPU 1 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:21:17] Accepted 01b42c7d Diff 38.5K/25K GPU 2 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
[20:21:19] Accepted 02598e78 Diff 27.9K/25K GPU 5 at cryptonight.hk.nicehash.com
(5s):3.121K (avg):2.646Kh/s | A:300001 R:0 HW:0 WU:5.999/m
legendary
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@ Hey yslyung - long time no see. Cool project you have there on the relays. I am using SRR currently - not bad actually and GUI is quite simple.
I guess its about productization of an idea in which smOS and SRR have achieved nicely - complete with store front, payment/paypal and logistics.
Is your project available for sale?

which project mate ? haha, it'll be very easy to post them to you either to the island or across the border, you can either post here or PM me directly. you can pay me either in btc or wire to directly locally in the island or across, works in any way for me.
legendary
Activity: 1834
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@Tasty Potato - I think you mean driver updates vs BIOS updates.  Most of us won't use Relive drivers as we're using MOD Roms.  So we'll be using Pre Relive drivers, any of the few right before Relive would do for RX400 series.

@ m1n1ngP4d4w4n - You missed the part where I only paid $61 for them.  Crazy Sales and in America we only pay $150 for TV.  The rest of the world pay the crazy prices.  =)

@ Citronik - All my GPUs are LGA 1150.  Why don't u move 3 of those cards over for a quick test?  Surely you have some spare risers..........LET's DO this ,  Why would a VENDOR make a 7 PCIE slots MB not able to handle more than 4 cards, sound very silly to me but then again anything is possible.  I mean heck, they even made power via normal power button difficult where it's not really well documented.  I don't even know how Philipma knows it's on P 15.  There is simply no reference to the on / off power button on the Layout picture in their manual.  That's some funny @#$@#$ to see you use Chopsticks to hold those GPU in place. hahaha


I have a 7 x R7-370 from my earlier build with 3PCI-to-USB3 splitter.... its really a slow coach this rig but it was originally my first dev machine.

Let me do the test there..... I have about 2 more hours before my wife calls me for dinner so I feel a bit adventurous now.... let me get started.

Without risers, the GPUs will be very close to each other - the wooden chopsticks are perfect for spacers!

OK check back in an hour or so... (maybe less if I work fast) - LOL

@yun
well..... I dont think it can support all 7.... I get a lot of PCI error messages.... but then again it could be my risers.
I am trying out seating and unseating the risers until i see some action. Gut feel... doesnt look promising.

@ Hey yslyung - long time no see. Cool project you have there on the relays. I am using SRR currently - not bad actually and GUI is quite simple.
I guess its about productization of an idea in which smOS and SRR have achieved nicely - complete with store front, payment/paypal and logistics.
Is your project available for sale?
legendary
Activity: 1500
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Mine Mine Mine
my DIY of SRR but i call mine Mining Control Center (MCC)



for 8 rigs



4 rigs, i call it the mini version, all sticks nicely onto the acrylic plate.



web interface



mobile interface

parts are very easy to find, not difficult to build them but for the coding most might have a hiccup. i do not have to spend a whopping ermmm over USD 100 + shipping ?

i'm not saying SRR is not good it has a very well written software + support from tytanick, but imho opinion, it's way overpriced.

LOWEST cost MAX profit would be my main goal.

SMOS is great software but again i do not like my miners to go thru someone's server & have the possibility control my rigs or what is happening in the background. just personal preferences.

now here's my magical question, your miners does go thru the "devfee" mining session rite ? does it go to the actual dev or it goes to the other OS dev ?

on my miners page, it goes to the OS dev but nope it goes to me ! Nothing against the ori DEV or any DEV's , it's something i bumped into & i only use it for my OWN personal use & experiments in learning more in mining. PLEASE DO NOT PM me how I do it or share.

OP, here's another angle of the "lucky7" rig i made, i think i should have more close ups of it though, if i see it i'll post it up.
*i recalled someone PM'ed me abt this build, sorry i did not reply to your PM but as you can see pretty clear the parts list in the pic)



Someone asked who sells rigs ? yes I do but at the other part of the world as I'm located in Asia, me & citronick are neighbors, hey citronik, remember me ? Maybe for smaller stuffs yeah, but the whole rack, ermmm shipping would cost a bomb me thinks.

Just delivered a rack of 3 rigs to 1 of my customer. more to go, the racks will have a new revision & looking forward to build "cleaner" rigs.



lastly, speaking of mobo's, the GT7 is freaking NICE, looking fwd to get 1 of those to play with together with the "new" Nitro's 470D4GB as a fun rig, well maybe but the GT7 is really nice mobo.

here's my latest "experiment" with the famous Gaming 5, no time to mess with it yet as the part just arrived & busy building rigs to get them delivered.



*apologies to any dev's "if i have offended" anyone of them, i'm not stealing any "devfees" but i'm learning & i PAID long enough & i'm NOT trying to sell my product over someone else's product but it's really too expensive imo & again, i always prefer NOT to let my rigs to go thru any other servers before the pool as I do not know what's happening behind the scenes*

Happy mining to all, more pics & updates to come. Smiley

 











legendary
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@Tasty Potato - I think you mean driver updates vs BIOS updates.  Most of us won't use Relive drivers as we're using MOD Roms.  So we'll be using Pre Relive drivers, any of the few right before Relive would do for RX400 series.

@ m1n1ngP4d4w4n - You missed the part where I only paid $61 for them.  Crazy Sales and in America we only pay $150 for TV.  The rest of the world pay the crazy prices.  =)

@ Citronik - All my GPUs are LGA 1150.  Why don't u move 3 of those cards over for a quick test?  Surely you have some spare risers..........LET's DO this ,  Why would a VENDOR make a 7 PCIE slots MB not able to handle more than 4 cards, sound very silly to me but then again anything is possible.  I mean heck, they even made power via normal power button difficult where it's not really well documented.  I don't even know how Philipma knows it's on P 15.  There is simply no reference to the on / off power button on the Layout picture in their manual.  That's some funny @#$@#$ to see you use Chopsticks to hold those GPU in place. hahaha


I have a 7 x R7-370 from my earlier build with 3PCI-to-USB3 splitter.... its really a slow coach this rig but it was originally my first dev machine.

Let me do the test there..... I have about 2 more hours before my wife calls me for dinner so I feel a bit adventurous now.... let me get started.

Without risers, the GPUs will be very close to each other - the wooden chopsticks are perfect for spacers!

OK check back in an hour or so... (maybe less if I work fast) - LOL
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@Tasty Potato - I think you mean driver updates vs BIOS updates.  Most of us won't use Relive drivers as we're using MOD Roms.  So we'll be using Pre Relive drivers, any of the few right before Relive would do for RX400 series.

@ m1n1ngP4d4w4n - You missed the part where I only paid $61 for them.  Crazy Sales and in America we only pay $150 for TV.  The rest of the world pay the crazy prices.  =)

@ Citronik - All my GPUs are LGA 1150.  Why don't u move 3 of those cards over for a quick test?  Surely you have some spare risers..........LET's DO this ,  Why would a VENDOR make a 7 PCIE slots MB not able to handle more than 4 cards, sound very silly to me but then again anything is possible.  I mean heck, they even made power via normal power button difficult where it's not really well documented.  I don't even know how Philipma knows it's on P 15.  There is simply no reference to the on / off power button on the Layout picture in their manual.  That's some funny @#$@#$ to see you use Chopsticks to hold those GPU in place. hahaha
legendary
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Would appreciate that very Much if you could let me know.  My CPU won't make it for another week and that's killing me!  This BOARD is just simply everything I want and can't beat the price we got it for.  The anticipation is killing me.  The LED strips and controls are very very COOL!

Cant help giving you a tickle here... here's a pix to increase your anticipation  Grin.

I use G4400 on this board. smOS on USB3 too.

If you have a development rig -- you should have one if you don't - just take out the CPU and play with the board - at least you can confirm the 7xGPU format.

Better to know now then to wait for CPU to arrive ....

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I don't think Vega 10, just like 390s will disappoint me.  Please remember the biggest portion of ROI is the reselling.  If I can mine Vega 10 for 6 months and they hold their value,  it doesn't even matter how efficient or inefficient it is, it will product higher returns using less supporting gears / foot print.  I will get all of my money back minus any selling fee / depreciations.  The 390 paid multiple times, the Ref 480 I was still able to sell for same price after mining for 3 months if I really wanted to.  The supporting MB set for each rig (Case, Fans, PSU, RAM, SSD, etc) add about $500 per rig on the average.  Less Rig to build, less foot print, less to manage and less MB set = bigger gain.  It will be better to have 10 x Vega Rig then 30 x 470 rigs for this reason alone.  You can just imagine how long it would take to build 30 rigs and how difficult that would be to manage heat, more racks required, etc.

I bought 2 x Rigs of 1070, I mined them for 3 months, didn't like them for Eth.  Sold them and only lost $20/card but gain over $100 each per card mining so I was up $80 per card minus power cost.  Flagship cards usually hold their value very well.  If I were to do that with my 470s, I would still have some profit but I would have to take a much bigger hit on the reselling depreciation.   Although I bought all of my 470s in Sept so those will also be my super stars.  I have no concerns on the Vegas, only concern is availabilities, max quantities allowed, etc.    HBM is also very tuneable and I've seen people able to tweak it where it does crazy performance and low Power, Nano is a great example.  Anyways, I don't want this thread to turn into a GPU debate, just some of my opinions why I'm prepping for Vega.  


That being said, I bought 15 of these BIOSTAR 7 GPU Z170 MBs during the NewEgg sale.

This MB is absolutely Stunning!  The Carbon Fibre and attention to details is phenomenal.  Just waiting on my LGA1151 CPU to arrive so I can test this board for 7 GPU.  This board looks even better in real life and comes with LED strips as well as the Power, Econ setting control built right onto the board.  Great for Open air rig, sucks for Server Case.   I don't see anywhere to connect my Power Button on this MB.  

@ Phillip / Citronik?Huh?  Is there a way?  Otherwise this board will be useless to me as I need it for my server case.  My Open air build is all done already.


Sexy board i admit, but i find it too expensive (well at least here it's 170-180€ Sad ), too bad

I wonder if that one could handle 7x1070, i have not yet seen any MB able to do that because the PCI-lanes get all eaten up coz 1070 is very very very needy. Eager to see your vega setup yun and how it perform.

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Do you guys bother with cards' bios update??

And do you keep up with new relive amd drivers or stick all the way to the ones you already tried successfully first?
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Would appreciate that very Much if you could let me know.  My CPU won't make it for another week and that's killing me!  This BOARD is just simply everything I want and can't beat the price we got it for.  The anticipation is killing me.  The LED strips and controls are very very COOL!
legendary
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Kryptonite13 - He also sells on Ebay as well and I agree, it's cheaper and more profit via that route.  But via Amazon PRIME, he loaded it at the warehouse where he gets less profit, close none really, but I want that as we get it SUPER FAST when needed urgently and Amazon ships it, not him.  No human delays.  This will also set us up for future products from him such as Pico PSU, fans, etc.  I'm urging him to go that route, but he will need community support before committing to such large volumes.

@Zimmsquad - Maybe you can PM m1n1ngP4d4w4n.  Most of my experience with the 7 cards are on AMD cards.  I had a hell of a time just getting 6 working for 1070 but that was many months ago when drivers and Claymore suck on NVIDIA.  This is why I try to stick to the tried and provens.  The MB that have jumping or problematic issues seeing 6 or 7 cards, should try flashing BIOS or return and get a different one.  I have a few of those P@#$@#$ boards.   All my others are working no issues but again all AMD.

@ Marvell1 - Are we certain this new Biostar 7 GPU board can only do 4 GPUs?  IF that is the case it would suck really bad.  I don't want to settle for anything less than 6 and this is 1 SEXY board, I don't want to return it especially since I got them for $61.  They are SEXY!





@yun9999 not sure i have had problems in the past with other boards with the Z170 chipset , some boards can do 4 some boards can do six even seven  (ASUS Z170 premium board) its hit or miss, I supposedly heard that with bios updated can fix some boards
I have it running with two cards right now for testing and youre right its one sexy board, i love the features the power and reset buttons are awesome .  I dont have any spare cards laying around so tmw I will pull four come cards from other rigs and see what happens
legendary
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yeah  there is a way.  but let me see the power button you use.



oh I need  the link for risers  please give me it is it hawkfish?  


I will go look at the board for you.

get the manual go to page 15

it shows the panel with reset power on etc

so match the photo below with the manual page 15


Yes thats the spot.

At a glance.... Its a tad too close to the 4th GPU.

I am getting the SRR unit to manage the first 4 x Biostar Z170s in Zone 5 of my warehouse.

Will revert in a few hours.

it just clears the fourth card if it is a msi rx 470 card.

I only put one of these boards  in a rig.

Truly a good board for four cards open miner no fucking risers and running the i5 6400t cpu as a cpu miner for zec(not any more)  or xmr

I got a lot of used i5 6400t cpus on ebay  for about 125 -135 each

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6400T-QUAD-core-processor-2-20GHz-TURBO-boost-to-2-80GHz-/142287890457?


  this cpu simply will hold it value for more then a year.

or put a used g4400t in it  and  don't mine with the cpu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-G4400T-2-90Ghz-SR2HQ-LGA-1151-Socket-X626B529-Processor-/262837490473?
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
yeah  there is a way.  but let me see the power button you use.



oh I need  the link for risers  please give me it is it hawkfish?  


I will go look at the board for you.

get the manual go to page 15

it shows the panel with reset power on etc

so match the photo below with the manual page 15


Yes thats the spot.

At a glance.... Its a tad too close to the 4th GPU.

I am getting the SRR unit to manage the first 4 x Biostar Z170s in Zone 5 of my warehouse.

Will revert in a few hours.
legendary
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windows 10 64 bit

I didn't upgrade the BIOS drivers on this motherboard. Do you think that is worth a try? If so, are there certain bios driver versions that are best for the MSI gaming 5 motherboard for Nvidia GTX cards?

yeah some people say newer driver works , is it one a Z170A motherboard ? some folks say updated bios allowed more than four cards,
the MSI gaming 5's i have work with 7 cards sometimes , sometimes they don't so i just stick to 6 like phillip says

Could you tell me what settings you changed in your bios to allow the 7 cards? I updated the BIOS and am still getting the same error code 12 for one card. It is for the card in PCIe slot 1. It worked before I installed the 7th card, so I know the slot and card are fine.

I dont think i changed anything you can try setting the PCI-e deal to gen-1 on all slots , I dont do 7 gpus anymore sometimes one card would jjust randomly not detect just got tired of trouble shooting it.
legendary
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I don't think Vega 10, just like 390s will disappoint me.  Please remember the biggest portion of ROI is the reselling.  If I can mine Vega 10 for 6 months and they hold their value,  it doesn't even matter how efficient or inefficient it is, it will product higher returns using less supporting gears / foot print.  I will get all of my money back minus any selling fee / depreciations.  The 390 paid multiple times, the Ref 480 I was still able to sell for same price after mining for 3 months if I really wanted to.  The supporting MB set for each rig (Case, Fans, PSU, RAM, SSD, etc) add about $500 per rig on the average.  Less Rig to build, less foot print, less to manage and less MB set = bigger gain.  It will be better to have 10 x Vega Rig then 30 x 470 rigs for this reason alone.  You can just imagine how long it would take to build 30 rigs and how difficult that would be to manage heat, more racks required, etc.

I bought 2 x Rigs of 1070, I mined them for 3 months, didn't like them for Eth.  Sold them and only lost $20/card but gain over $100 each per card mining so I was up $80 per card minus power cost.  Flagship cards usually hold their value very well.  If I were to do that with my 470s, I would still have some profit but I would have to take a much bigger hit on the reselling depreciation.   Although I bought all of my 470s in Sept so those will also be my super stars.  I have no concerns on the Vegas, only concern is availabilities, max quantities allowed, etc.    HBM is also very tuneable and I've seen people able to tweak it where it does crazy performance and low Power, Nano is a great example.  Anyways, I don't want this thread to turn into a GPU debate, just some of my opinions why I'm prepping for Vega.  


That being said, I bought 15 of these BIOSTAR 7 GPU Z170 MBs during the NewEgg sale.





This MB is absolutely Stunning!  The Carbon Fibre and attention to details is phenomenal.  Just waiting on my LGA1151 CPU to arrive so I can test this board for 7 GPU.  This board looks even better in real life and comes with LED strips as well as the Power, Econ setting control built right onto the board.  Great for Open air rig, sucks for Server Case.   I don't see anywhere to connect my Power Button on this MB.  


@ Phillip / Citronik?Huh?  Is there a way?  Otherwise this board will be useless to me as I need it for my server case.  My Open air build is all done already.


I grabbed 5 of them as well this is the cheapest mb that has a build in power and button, setting up one now.  well made board wish it could do more than four cards though
legendary
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It is MSI gaming 5 Z97

yeah it should do 7 gpu no problem i have that board
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I am running (or trying to run) 7 x GTX 1070, not amd cards

Never tried NVidia with that MB, AMD works w/ no issues.
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I am running (or trying to run) 7 x GTX 1070, not amd cards
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windows 10 64 bit

I didn't upgrade the BIOS drivers on this motherboard. Do you think that is worth a try? If so, are there certain bios driver versions that are best for the MSI gaming 5 motherboard for Nvidia GTX cards?

yeah some people say newer driver works , is it one a Z170A motherboard ? some folks say updated bios allowed more than four cards,
the MSI gaming 5's i have work with 7 cards sometimes , sometimes they don't so i just stick to 6 like phillip says

Could you tell me what settings you changed in your bios to allow the 7 cards? I updated the BIOS and am still getting the same error code 12 for one card. It is for the card in PCIe slot 1. It worked before I installed the 7th card, so I know the slot and card are fine.

Right click and try disabling then enabling the GPU few times. If it doesn't work, try installing AMD software again. There is no straight solution for this, need to try few things multiple times.
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I didn't upgrade the BIOS drivers on this motherboard. Do you think that is worth a try? If so, are there certain bios driver versions that are best for the MSI gaming 5 motherboard for Nvidia GTX cards?

yeah some people say newer driver works , is it one a Z170A motherboard ? some folks say updated bios allowed more than four cards,
the MSI gaming 5's i have work with 7 cards sometimes , sometimes they don't so i just stick to 6 like phillip says

Could you tell me what settings you changed in your bios to allow the 7 cards? I updated the BIOS and am still getting the same error code 12 for one card. It is for the card in PCIe slot 1. It worked before I installed the 7th card, so I know the slot and card are fine.
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