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Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 111. (Read 86349 times)

legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1694
January 15, 2019, 01:19:25 PM
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If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.

Yeah, I was able to figure it out.
And I understood my mistake.

I deleted 10 feedbacks.
Now I understand that every feedback from DT2 participants is a big responsibility.

ps: I have helped and will continue to help xtraelv regardless of whether I am at DT2 or not.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3284
January 15, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
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taikuri13 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/taikuri13-1855828 | some random who sent 16 positive trusts today, with no previous feedbacks left
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DarkStar_ 
we know each other a little bit, I translated your thread into Russian.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5047016 (Original topic: Overview of Bitcoin Accepting Sportsbooks (with margin/house edge comparisons))

I've never left a review on this forum.
If I did something wrong, tell me.

My feedback to people I have known for more than six months.
Yes, they write in Russian.

My list includes a moderator, experts who help forum participants, people who investigate fraud.

If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 962
HOLD BITCOIN! Fiat - SCAM!
January 15, 2019, 12:10:04 PM
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Please add reference links to all your negative ratings.

Thank you for correcting me! I'm not experienced yet, but I'm learning fast!

Done! All negative ratings now with links!
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1130
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 15, 2019, 10:47:36 AM
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Report correct post(you will figure which one) to moderator. Write this in comment: "Selling Serbian documents is illegal".

Done, the guy sells everything, maybe one day he will sell his own family
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2273
January 15, 2019, 10:06:03 AM
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Please add reference links to all your negative ratings.

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Report correct post(you will figure which one) to moderator. Write this in comment: "Selling Serbian documents is illegal".

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No one here should take advice from account farmer, bounty abuser and deep onion shill.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1130
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 15, 2019, 09:25:02 AM
Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

All I see is the confirmation Lauda is a she.



legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
January 15, 2019, 06:58:23 AM
Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

All I see is the confirmation Lauda is a she.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 280
January 15, 2019, 06:30:56 AM
ps: Perhaps a thread with recommendations will be useful to many users
The trust system is here for almost 5 years, afaik and you are here for 1 year almost.
Everything can be found here if you use search option and will get a better result if you use google for searching.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
January 15, 2019, 05:23:21 AM
BitcoinTalk Rules = are you and your words only?
Yes, theymos is my master and I created a cult. Grin

Hi

my question: may need to prohibit the registration of names like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/defaulttrust-2526482
Already DefaultTrust (22). Nevermind, this doesn't work (tested by creating my own account prefixed; sorry theymos you will have to kill them). I agree that he should prohibit '~' + existing username (PM sent).
kzv
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1287
OpenTrade - Open Source Cryptocurrency Exchange
January 15, 2019, 05:16:46 AM
Hi

my question: may need to prohibit the registration of names like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/defaulttrust-2526482
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2271
BTC or BUST
January 15, 2019, 04:53:09 AM
Well...
Cryptopia was just hacked and many major crypto news publications are running stories including suspicions of an inside job..

Their main reps here are now on DT1 so I guess we will see how that goes..

I suggest they do not use their DT powers in any relation to this event, to tag "fudders" or whatever, and we should watch to make sure noone is intimidated about speaking about the situation..

I'm not suggesting they be excluded but I can just imagine what it would have been like if the cryptsy crew were on DT when that went down..
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
January 15, 2019, 04:44:52 AM
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I can not. There are no rules. There are some guidelines but they are vague. Most of this stuff comes from implicit/explicit consensus on how you should handle yourself as a DT member. Were you ready to become one, you would have known this by now.
Maybe there's a proof-link on the blurry recommendations?
You are saying that I was wrong.
I want to know what my mistake is to prevent it in the future.
Either you don't understand English or you're wasting my time. I listed your mistakes:

What's wrong:
1) Not a single feedback has a reference.
2) Giving feedback for people you have "known for more than six months".
3) Giving feedback solely because you think someone is an "expert" or solely because they are a moderator.
There's no proof-link; don't be a nuisance.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
January 15, 2019, 04:34:59 AM
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What's wrong:
1) Not a single feedback has a reference.
2) Giving feedback for people you have "known for more than six months".
3) Giving feedback solely because you think someone is an "expert" or solely because they are a moderator.

Can you provide a proof-link about these words?
Where can I read the rules for feedback?
I can not. There are no rules. There are some guidelines but they are vague. Most of this stuff comes from implicit/explicit consensus on how you should handle yourself as a DT member. Were you ready to become one, you would have known this by now.

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FYI, you are already excluded several times so it doesn't matter anymore (taikuri13 (-3)).
I'm not surprised
You are not DT material anyways; don't take it personally. One inclusion nowadays means nothing.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
January 15, 2019, 04:25:00 AM
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taikuri13 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/taikuri13-1855828 | some random who sent 16 positive trusts today, with no previous feedbacks left
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DarkStar_
we know each other a little bit, I translated your thread into Russian.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5047016 (Original topic: Overview of Bitcoin Accepting Sportsbooks (with margin/house edge comparisons))

I've never left a review on this forum.
If I did something wrong, tell me.

My feedback to people I have known for more than six months.
Yes, they write in Russian.

My list includes a moderator, experts who help forum participants, people who investigate fraud.
What's wrong:
1) Not a single feedback has a reference.
2) Giving feedback for people you have "known for more than six months".
3) Giving feedback solely because you think someone is an "expert" or solely because they are a moderator.

FYI, you are already excluded several times so it doesn't matter anymore (taikuri13 (-3)).
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 280
January 15, 2019, 01:53:25 AM
It's ok to exclude them also. I can't ask everyone, but since ICOEthics  on my custom list, I think there is nothing wrong to ask him.
I didn't mean in that way.
You have included ICOEthics because his feedback is trustworthy to you. Assume, ICOEthics included user 'A' whom you don't trust with his feedback. ICOEthics may trust and that's why he has included. Since you don't trust user "A", simply put him ~A in your trust list. That's it. All the purpose will be fulfilled.
1. You want to see ICOEthics feedback.
2. You don't want to see user 'A' feedback.
3. ICOEthic wants to see user 'A' feedback.

I think that's how DT works.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
January 15, 2019, 01:48:01 AM
I can agree with everyone on this list except raymond541. He is my assistant(not a random bounty manager) whom has worked with me on campaigns for well over 2 years now. I trust his judgement personally but If the community disagrees I would probably be willing to remove him from my list. I will not agree to exclude him though as I have stated before I trust his judgement to this point.
That does not make him DT2 material. Given that he barely uses the system, it would be better to not have him there unless something changes IMO.

Can not but-
The recent changes encourage people to use custom trust list. Why should we ask people to remove someone from their trust list? Isn't it better to exclude those whom you don't trust with their feedback? Problem solved.
Simple, I don't want to have a list with 100+ exclusions (which might be necessary unless those people are removed (among others)). Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
Bitcoin = Financial freedom
January 15, 2019, 01:13:28 AM
Can not but-
The recent changes encourage people to use custom trust list. Why should we ask people to remove someone from their trust list? Isn't it better to exclude those whom you don't trust with their feedback? Problem solved.
But the purpose of default trust system is to identify the scammers and untrustworthy people by the newbie,so if we have flaw in the system we are redirecting the newbie to trust the wrong person just because how the system works.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 2228
Signature space for rent
January 15, 2019, 01:13:07 AM
You are in my list because I trust you with my fund.
That's not why you should add someone to your trust list: if you trust someone with funds, leave him feedback.
If you trust his judgement (on others), add him to your trust list.
You are right. Not at all I have added for this reason. I just gave him example. Obviously I trust his judgment same like I add you for your judgment and those others on my trust list.
hero member
Activity: 1659
Merit: 687
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
January 15, 2019, 01:04:03 AM
You are in my list because I trust you with my fund.
That's not why you should add someone to your trust list: if you trust someone with funds, leave him feedback.
If you trust his judgement (on others), add him to your trust list.
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