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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on January 15, 2019, 02:56:27 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

I think it's a bit early to call that a scam or accusing people of defending a scam. Please try to refrain from starting more drama over nothing.

I wouldn’t jump out blindly saying everything is fine and dandy without reviewing the evidence.

Based on what I have seen so far, I think FJ is in the wrong.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on January 15, 2019, 02:29:39 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

The trust system has become a popularity contest rather than a gauge of who will and will not rip you off, and con artists are usually quite charming by nature.

wow. you got it. thank you for this conclusion. i think that after reading this most of the discussions about dt can be closed.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 03:03:09 PM

Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on January 15, 2019, 02:56:27 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

I think it's a bit early to call that a scam or accusing people of defending a scam. Please try to refrain from starting more drama over nothing.

Not too early to defend your signature advertiser though, right? Please try to refrain from downplaying someone's loss of >$70,000.

Hmmm.... Betcoin.... Hmmm...

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on January 15, 2019, 02:56:27 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

I think it's a bit early to call that a scam or accusing people of defending a scam. Please try to refrain from starting more drama over nothing.

Not too early to defend your signature advertiser though, right? Please try to refrain from downplaying someone's loss of >$70,000.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

I think it's a bit early to call that a scam or accusing people of defending a scam. Please try to refrain from starting more drama over nothing.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 15, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

The trust system has become a popularity contest rather than a gauge of who will and will not rip you off, and con artists are usually quite charming by nature.

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Quote from: taikuri13 on January 15, 2019, 01:19:25 PM

Now I understand that every feedback from DT2 participants is a big responsibility.

That's what all new DT2 members need to know, and they need to be prepared to defend every feedback they leave. It's an almost certainty that if you leave a neg on someone, it'll get challenged either by PM or in a thread, so all the new DT2 members should be prepared for that. I'm pretty sure DT1 knows this stuff already.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 15, 2019, 02:14:31 PM

To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.

Leave appropriate feedback with a valid reference link if it's a neg, and be careful who you give positives to. I've already said that, but it's the best advice IMO. Nobody is forcing any new DT2 members to start leaving feedbacks, so hopefully none of you feel pressured to do so.

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Well, we almost made it a week with the new trust system before newly appointed DT members were connected to a large scam (>$70,000)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-casino-refuses-to-pay-20-btc-won-from-jackpot-5097164

20 BTC jackpot not paid out to a user playing by the rules. DT member wearing a paid signature from the accused scam site rushing to defend it in spite of having the exact opposite opinion on previous similar cases.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 15, 2019, 02:14:31 PM

Since lot of new face on DT network, I am expecting a suggestion's/motivational post from old DT members. To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.

Here's some quick advice:
1) For positive feedback: Be very conservative.
2) For negative feedback: Be strict and follow the general standards (what we tag for and what we don't tag for).
3) For trust lists: Not that important unless you are DT1, but I'd say be even more conservative than 1).

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Since lot of new face on DT network, I am expecting a suggestion's/motivational post from old DT members. To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2019, 12:19:54 PM

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If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.

Yeah, I was able to figure it out.
And I understood my mistake.

I deleted 10 feedbacks.
Now I understand that every feedback from DT2 participants is a big responsibility.

ps: I have helped and will continue to help xtraelv regardless of whether I am at DT2 or not.

DarkStar_

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Quote from: xtraelv on January 14, 2019, 08:33:11 PM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 14, 2019, 06:46:02 PM

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taikuri13 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/taikuri13-1855828 | some random who sent 16 positive trusts today, with no previous feedbacks left
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DarkStar_
we know each other a little bit, I translated your thread into Russian.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5047016 (Original topic: Overview of Bitcoin Accepting Sportsbooks (with margin/house edge comparisons))

I've never left a review on this forum.
If I did something wrong, tell me.

My feedback to people I have known for more than six months.
Yes, they write in Russian.

My list includes a moderator, experts who help forum participants, people who investigate fraud.

If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.

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Quote from: marlboroza on January 15, 2019, 10:06:03 AM

Quote from: Alex_Sr on January 14, 2019, 01:36:06 PM

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Please add reference links to all your negative ratings.

Thank you for correcting me! I'm not experienced yet, but I'm learning fast!

Done! All negative ratings now with links!

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Quote from: marlboroza on January 15, 2019, 10:06:03 AM

Quote from: Slow death on January 14, 2019, 06:09:18 PM

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Report correct post(you will figure which one) to moderator. Write this in comment: "Selling Serbian documents is illegal".

Done, the guy sells everything, maybe one day he will sell his own family

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Quote from: Alex_Sr on January 14, 2019, 01:36:06 PM

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Please add reference links to all your negative ratings.

Quote from: Slow death on January 14, 2019, 06:09:18 PM

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Report correct post(you will figure which one) to moderator. Write this in comment: "Selling Serbian documents is illegal".

Quote from: S_Therapist on January 15, 2019, 01:53:25 AM

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No one here should take advice from account farmer, bounty abuser and deep onion shill.

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Quote from: asche on January 15, 2019, 06:58:23 AM

Quote from: theymos on January 09, 2019, 03:52:19 PM

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

All I see is the confirmation Lauda is a she.

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Quote from: theymos on January 09, 2019, 03:52:19 PM

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.

All I see is the confirmation Lauda is a she.

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ps: Perhaps a thread with recommendations will be useful to many users

The trust system is here for almost 5 years, afaik and you are here for 1 year almost.
Everything can be found here if you use search option and will get a better result if you use google for searching.

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Quote from: kzv on January 15, 2019, 05:16:46 AM

Hi

my question: may need to prohibit the registration of names like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/defaulttrust-2526482

~~Already DefaultTrust (22).~~ Nevermind, this doesn't work (tested by creating my own account prefixed; sorry theymos you will have to kill them). I agree that he should prohibit '~' + existing username (PM sent).

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Hi

my question: may need to prohibit the registration of names like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/defaulttrust-2526482

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