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I was wondering to ask ICOEthics for remove lovesmayfamilis from DT2. But seems he have already removed. On my list almost are old DT. Few are new but they have also added by others DT1 before made final list. Feel free to share if you think someone should be remove from my trust list.

It's fine, because before you wasn't on DT1. But now you are on DT1, and all of your custom list will be DT2 automatically. Since you are also on my trust list I will suggest to revise your custom list once again. Just keep them who are really aware about DT system and know how to use it. If they abuse the system, everyone will point you.

I am fully agree with you. I have added especially who are helping investigate scams and who help prevent them. Also I add those peoples personally I trust them like suchmoon and you. You are in my list because I trust you with my fund. Still my fund with you Lol.

From list of new DT members, here are some people who I think should be excluded:
lovesmayfamilis - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lovesmayfamilis-1982152 | added by ICOEthics, only trust feedback left is to ICOEthics and Coolcryptovator

On my list not only Users that i have given or got Feedback !

All the Users on my list are there because i trust them and have helped them or they was helping me  !

No more and no less

Note: This is just my opinion on what DT1 should be doing/general ethics. Others may disagree, and AFAIK there is no official forum policy.

Why should we ask people to remove someone from their trust list? Isn't it better to exclude those whom you don't trust with their feedback? Problem solved.

Note: This is just my opinion on what DT1 should be doing. Others may disagree, and AFAIK there is no official forum policy.

I agree - that is why I said "to the outside world". My guess was that you weren't fully understanding how a trust list works and what it should be used for.

Currently, you have 4 people on your trust list who have empty trust lists and have only left one positive feedback, which was to you. You can't really argue that putting them on DT2 has another purpose other then increasing your own trust score at the moment.

It's perfectly fine to add people who have left you positive trust to your trust list, but putting them on DT2 should have some other purpose other than increasing your own trust. For example, I added Avirunes to my trust list. They left me positive feedback, but they've also done a lot of helpful investigation work and have left many accurate trust feedbacks to others.

Note: This is just my opinion on what DT1 should be doing/general ethics. Others may disagree, and AFAIK there is no official forum policy.

No i havnt .

Because i am not that kind of guy to need it or doing something like this !

As i said will take a look at and doing some changes maybe !

it seems that you've added quite a few users to your list to boost your own trust score.

On my list not only Users that i have given or got Feedback !

All the Users on my list are there because i trust them and have helped them or they was helping me  !

No more and no less

taikuri13 has helped me with scam investigations and translations. I've removed some of the feedback that I had on some inactive members since they don't use this site much anyway..

Whatever you want, it's your trust list. 🤷

And what should i do ?

Delete them and put your name there ? LOL

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On my list not only Users that i have given or got Feedback !

All the Users on my list are there because i trust them and have helped them or they was helping me  !

No more and no less

I can agree with everyone on this list except raymond541. He is my assistant(not a random bounty manager) whom has worked with me on campaigns for well over 2 years now. I trust his judgement personally but If the community disagrees I would probably be willing to remove him from my list. I will not agree to exclude him though as I have stated before I trust his judgement to this point.

From list of new DT members, here are some people who I think should be excluded:

VonSpass - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vonspass-219067 | alt of scammer
lovesmayfamilis - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lovesmayfamilis-1982152 | added by ICOEthics, only trust feedback left is to ICOEthics and Coolcryptovator
DJ1554 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dj1554-875141 | added by xtraelv and Lafu, only trust feedback left is to xtraelv and Lafu
zeki555 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zeki555-1392550 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
zoose - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zoose-543831 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
unick - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/unick-144671 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
desertboy10 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/desertboy10-1029297 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
Bigjohnson124 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bigjohnson124-185728 | zero trust feedback left
cyberbully - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cyberbully-539192 | Newbie, inactive since 2015, zero trust feedback left
gost111 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gost111-566884 | has only one trust feedback left that's calling someone a scammer without a reference or any proof
MySeriousFaceIsOn - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/myseriousfaceison-1033523 | Newbie, zero trust feedback left
mxhwr - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mxhwr-235528 | inactive since 2017, very few trust feedbacks left, one of which is to Lafu who added them
raymond541 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/raymond541-808354 | some random bounty manager who hasn't posted since Sep 2018, very few trust feedbacks left
TripleHeXXX - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/triplehexxx-226346 | has left only one trust feedback
mole0815 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mole0815-1424178 | zero trust feedback left
CDMcoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cdmcoin-2152197 | random Newbie with no trust feedback left
taikuri13 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/taikuri13-1855828 | some random who sent 16 positive trusts today, with no previous feedbacks left

Lafu seems to have added everyone who left them positive trust feedback (excluding playersfun). I left a vote against them for now as I strongly disagree with adding people solely for the purpose of boosting your own trust score (not sure if it was done intentionally or from not understanding what a trust list should be for). Lafu (and xtraelv to a lesser degree) seem to have added everyone they've traded with/talked to which isn't very good practice. They should reconsider their trust lists imo.

If someone agrees with me for the above and wants to quickly exclude them, here's a list you can copy.

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edit: o_e_l_e_o was faster than me it seems in posting those with few trust feedback left

Quite a few of those people are on my trust list.  Most I have traded substantially with but not on bitcointalk. While some of the feedback I left recently is new - the trust list I have has not altered much. The recent feedback I have left was for DTs that I believe are doing a great job and should continue to remain DTs under the new system. (Were already on my trust list due to default trust).

However if any DTs are concerned about the conduct of anyone on my trust list in future I will happily remove them.

From list of new DT members, here are some people who I think should be excluded:

VonSpass - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vonspass-219067 | alt of scammer
lovesmayfamilis - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lovesmayfamilis-1982152 | added by ICOEthics, only trust feedback left is to ICOEthics and Coolcryptovator
DJ1554 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dj1554-875141 | added by xtraelv and Lafu, only trust feedback left is to xtraelv and Lafu
zeki555 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zeki555-1392550 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
zoose - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zoose-543831 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
unick - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/unick-144671 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
desertboy10 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/desertboy10-1029297 | added by Lafu, only trust feedback left is to Lafu
Bigjohnson124 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bigjohnson124-185728 | zero trust feedback left
cyberbully - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cyberbully-539192 | Newbie, inactive since 2015, zero trust feedback left
gost111 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gost111-566884 | has only one trust feedback left that's calling someone a scammer without a reference or any proof
MySeriousFaceIsOn - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/myseriousfaceison-1033523 | Newbie, zero trust feedback left
mxhwr - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mxhwr-235528 | inactive since 2017, very few trust feedbacks left, one of which is to Lafu who added them
raymond541 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/raymond541-808354 | some random bounty manager who hasn't posted since Sep 2018, very few trust feedbacks left
TripleHeXXX - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/triplehexxx-226346 | has left only one trust feedback
mole0815 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mole0815-1424178 | zero trust feedback left
CDMcoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cdmcoin-2152197 | random Newbie with no trust feedback left
taikuri13 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/taikuri13-1855828 | some random who sent 16 positive trusts today, with no previous feedbacks left

Lafu seems to have added everyone who left them positive trust feedback (excluding playersfun). I left a vote against them for now as I strongly disagree with adding people solely for the purpose of boosting your own trust score (not sure if it was done intentionally or from not understanding what a trust list should be for). Lafu (and xtraelv to a lesser degree) seem to have added everyone they've traded with/talked to which isn't very good practice. They should reconsider their trust lists imo.

If someone agrees with me for the above and wants to quickly exclude them, here's a list you can copy.

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edit: o_e_l_e_o was faster than me it seems in posting those with few trust feedback left

That's my inclusion and I can assure I'll be watching it for any potential improprieties... top notch investigator though and has the right mindset for DT.

Some of the users in the list are moderators included by theymos so perhaps we should leave them out of any concerns unless there's a specific issue.

If someone agrees with me for the above and wants to quickly exclude them, here's a list you can copy.

Maggiordomo - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/maggiordomo-2340148 - Trust