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legendary
Activity: 2674
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Terminated.
January 10, 2019, 03:59:11 PM
Ok, new trust system looks a bit more complicated and difficult to understand. I just want to ask one question - is it jamalaezaz https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jamalaezaz-721115 now DT member?
No. Go to some random user who received trust from Jamal. Then append ";dt", e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=487418;dt.

Because I see feedbacks left by him are shown as Trusted. If he is DT member now, who have him on their trust list (sorry but I don't know how to check it)
It must be something related to your list. Did you build a custom one?
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1330
Slava Ukraini!
January 10, 2019, 03:58:15 PM
Ok, new trust system looks a bit more complicated and difficult to understand. I just want to ask one question - is it jamalaezaz https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jamalaezaz-721115 now DT member? Because I see feedbacks left by him are shown as Trusted. If he is DT member now, who have him on their trust list (sorry but I don't know how to check it)
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 6279
be constructive or S.T.F.U
January 10, 2019, 03:57:39 PM
These new DT changes are putting the forum on fire, Meta and Reputation are about to explode.

DT members kindly don't over-use your power to tag people you dislike, try to accept criticism and be willing to change your decision when needed.

Members , kindly ! if you are tagged for something "unreasonable" , PM the DT member FIRST and try to settle the issue before making new topic.

People , let us calm our tits "my favorite Vod's avatar goes here"  and make use of this new update to have a better trust system.

legendary
Activity: 1511
Merit: 1072
quack
January 10, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
mike is a zero post zero feedback newbie, added by BitcoinPenny.

I guess that BitcoinPenny meant to add someone else who also goes by the name Mike but his forum account name is not Mike.



Also for whoever this may interest, I will keep https://anduck.net/files/bct_trustlists.txt updated.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18509
January 10, 2019, 12:31:18 PM
Here's suchmoon's DT2 list with profile links. mike is a zero post zero feedback newbie, added by BitcoinPenny. BiPolarBob is a hacked account, added by SebastianJu.


A-10 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/a-10-903565
aacoins - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aacoins-378343
Adriano - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/adriano-112568
Aerys2 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/aerys2-991046
Akka - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/akka-60141
alp - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alp-139027
AltcoinSteps - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/altcoinsteps-547382
Anduck - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anduck-31931
Anon11073 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anon11073-969327
anonymousminer - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anonymousminer-1668017
asche - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/asche-1580039
Astro - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/astro-3480
AT101ET - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/at101et-170557
Barcode_ - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/barcode-779106
BG4 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bg4-74263
bill gator - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bill-gator-370611
BiPolarBob https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bipolarbob-343899 (!!!)
BitcoinNewsMagazine - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitcoinnewsmagazine-503947
bittawm - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bittawm-144811
Branduardi - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/branduardi-859806
buckrogers - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/buckrogers-189967
Carlton Banks - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/carlton-banks-64205
Carra23 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/carra23-122354
ChiBitCTy - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chibitcty-904524
chimk - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chimk-1202061
Chris! - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chris-662129
chronicsky - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chronicsky-353680
comit - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/comit-917493
Corrosive - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/corrosive-2005913
cryptoheadd - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptoheadd-795961
cryptonic21 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptonic21-315074
CydeWeys - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cydeweys-12459
DaveF - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/davef-300014
dazedfool - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dazedfool-327499
dbshck - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dbshck-153634
DebitMe - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/debitme-73438
digicoinuser - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/digicoinuser-402550
dolphriends - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dolphriends-1099535
dozerz - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dozerz-65034
eddie13 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/eddie13-580327
elianite - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elianite-231497
Ente - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ente-21577
Entropy-uc - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/entropy-uc-58711
Eodguy149 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/eodguy149-524681
ezeminer - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ezeminer-396526
F2b - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/f2b-1120609
Fattcatt - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fattcatt-906410
fhh - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fhh-56886
fluffypony - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fluffypony-94840
forrestv - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/forrestv-6447
Fortify - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fortify-339270
franckuestein - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/franckuestein-225121
frankenmint - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/frankenmint-130175
gocoins - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gocoins-201486
guigui371 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/guigui371-207818
Gunthar - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gunthar-817682
gwillen - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gwillen-22698
Halab - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/halab-1053119
HCP - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hcp-867786
hephaist0s - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hephaist0s-80081
Hiroaki - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hiroaki-103005
Hox - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hox-378327
hybridsole - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hybridsole-158444
IdiotCoder - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/idiotcoder-932936
iron77 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/iron77-33192
Jet Cash - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jet-cash-698159
JoelKatz - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/joelkatz-27870
Kialara - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kialara-364237
kingscrown - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kingscrown-169448
klaaas - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/klaaas-147451
kneim - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kneim-43064
Kryptowerk - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kryptowerk-949248
Kushedout - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kushedout-104052
LeGaulois - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/legaulois-507856
Lesbian Cow - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lesbian-cow-206143
m4nki - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/m4nki-506922
Matt Corallo - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/matt-corallo-4528
Meni Rosenfeld - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/meni-rosenfeld-5776
micromen - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/micromen-407892
midnightmagic - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/midnightmagic-2759
miffman - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/miffman-83038
mike - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mike-455 (?)
mikeywith - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mikeywith-2033515
minifrij - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/minifrij-138940
Minor Miner - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/minor-miner-86948
Mister k - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mister-k-1379635
montreal - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/montreal-180162
mrkent - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mrkent-43172
MrLehmann - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mrlehmann-533570
ndnh - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ndnh-146601
ninjarobot - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ninjarobot-44673
o_e_l_e_o - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/oeleo-1188543
OmegaStarScream - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/omegastarscream-375981
Otoh - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/otoh-20300
Pieter Wuille - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pieter-wuille-2786
Pistachio - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pistachio-47306
pmorici - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pmorici-107601
Poloherb - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/poloherb-158058
polymerbit - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/polymerbit-811213
PsychoticBoy - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/psychoticboy-54752
Raoul Duke - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/raoul-duke-9477
rdponticelli - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rdponticelli-37502
RealHummer - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/realhummer-1059684
rickbig41 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mr-big-553678
risho - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/risho-34894
romanornr - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/romanornr-225292
rusbitcoinuser - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rusbitcoinuser-1026500
Saint-loup - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/saint-loup-975910
saveawedge - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/saveawedge-87951
SFR10 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sfr10-521899
SgtSpike - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sgtspike-10502
Shitcointalk - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shitcointalk-1342019
SolarSilver - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/solarsilver-16248
Spazzer - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/spazzer-1143728
squall1066 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/squall1066-55503
ssateneth - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ssateneth-33107
start the art - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/start-the-art-162183
Sylon - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sylon-112240
teeGUMES - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/teegumes-307884
TheAnalogKid - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/theanalogkid-430758
TheBanksLife - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/thebankslife-138002
TheNewAnon135246 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/thenewanon135246-153656
Ticked - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ticked-129764
tmfp - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tmfp-351569
TommyBitcoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tommybitcoin-802035
tothemoonsands - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tothemoonsands-504780
Tramirostronix - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tramirostronix-1134568
twbt - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twbt-137541
vanycon - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vanycon-116602
vizique - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vizique-120837
Vladimir - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vladimir-3380
welshcollectibles - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/welshcollectibles-991075
wheelz1200 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wheelz1200-279158
WOLTAN78 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/woltan78-369186
Xal0lex - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xal0lex-1068464
xhomerx10 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xhomerx10-120694
Xprim777 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xprim777-383795
yakuza699 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yakuza699-136722
yogg - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yogg-140827
zefir - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zefir-23248
zekoroger - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zekoroger-533761
Zepher - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zepher-369879
ZipReg - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zipreg-1239916
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
January 10, 2019, 12:30:44 PM
New members of DT2, who were not in the "old" DT2 or DT1. No user ID on the trust page, so I couldn't create profile links, sorry. Please review and make adjustments if needed. This is based on coinlocket$'s snapshot of the old system vs the current DT2 list as of a few minutes ago. Things change quickly so feel free to yell at me if something is wrong.

ChiBitCTy

Banned user in DT2 list, look like activity criteria need to be fit for DT2 user also?
No. There is no criteria for DT2 (other than obviously being added by DT1). I have already contacted the user who has added him (and posted about it here; read all of the posts).

sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
I am alive but in hibernation.
January 10, 2019, 12:28:58 PM
New members of DT2, who were not in the "old" DT2 or DT1. No user ID on the trust page, so I couldn't create profile links, sorry. Please review and make adjustments if needed. This is based on coinlocket$'s snapshot of the old system vs the current DT2 list as of a few minutes ago. Things change quickly so feel free to yell at me if something is wrong.

ChiBitCTy

Banned user in DT2 list, look like activity criteria need to be fit for DT2 user also?
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
January 10, 2019, 12:26:28 PM
This is starting to feel like a full time job. I thought I was almost done with my list but then started digging deeper and there is still some work to do.
Yup. I think I've changed my list more times since the introduction of this system than I have in all the previous time spent here.

Former members of DT (1 or 2), who are no longer included in the "new" DT or have been excluded. Please review and if you find someone worthy - include them.
If I look at activity/inactivity, sent ratings and their trust lists, I don't see anyone else noteworthy of being re-added. Inactive accounts are now more dangerous than ever. There are some weird names, e.g. Gavin Andresen should never have been on that list.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
January 10, 2019, 12:22:24 PM
I added BadBear on depth 0, look how someone's reputation has changed:  Grin

Oh, and that someone is you!  Grin
Explain to me what happened there?  I'm assuming he trusts someone who gave me a neg but don't know who.  I'm not even sure how to check BB's trust list without modifying my own.  Yep, ignorance at its finest and I've been here long enough that I should know this.

Yeah, somehow ~spartan82 is on his trust list and this is messing up the score.
But, as Lauda said above his list is pretty old and he is not active anymore so I don't think it's a good idea to add him on depth 0. God knows how many accounts under him have already changed hands either sold or hacked.

Yeah that list looks iffy. I had BB in my list but I have removed him now.

This is starting to feel like a full time job. I thought I was almost done with my list but then started digging deeper and there is still some work to do.
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 6108
Jambler.io
January 10, 2019, 12:14:00 PM
I added BadBear on depth 0, look how someone's reputation has changed:  Grin

Oh, and that someone is you!  Grin
Explain to me what happened there?  I'm assuming he trusts someone who gave me a neg but don't know who.  I'm not even sure how to check BB's trust list without modifying my own.  Yep, ignorance at its finest and I've been here long enough that I should know this.

Yeah, somehow ~spartan82 is on his trust list and this is messing up the score.
But, as Lauda said above his list is pretty old and he is not active anymore so I don't think it's a good idea to add him on depth 0. God knows how many accounts under him have already changed hands either sold or hacked.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
January 10, 2019, 12:09:22 PM
I added BadBear on depth 0, look how someone's reputation has changed:  Grin

Oh, and that someone is you!  Grin
Explain to me what happened there?  I'm assuming he trusts someone who gave me a neg but don't know who.  I'm not even sure how to check BB's trust list without modifying my own.  Yep, ignorance at its finest and I've been here long enough that I should know this.
It shouldn't matter to you. BadBear's list is likely unmaintained due to his inactivity.
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 6809
Cashback 15%
January 10, 2019, 12:06:45 PM
I added BadBear on depth 0, look how someone's reputation has changed:  Grin

Oh, and that someone is you!  Grin
Explain to me what happened there?  I'm assuming he trusts someone who gave me a neg but don't know who.  I'm not even sure how to check BB's trust list without modifying my own.  Yep, ignorance at its finest and I've been here long enough that I should know this.

Edit:
It shouldn't matter to you. BadBear's list is likely unmaintained due to his inactivity.
Yeah, it's my fragile ego that's doing the wondering here.  

God knows how many accounts under him have already changed hands either sold or hacked.
Good idea, he's pruned from my list.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 277
January 10, 2019, 12:05:40 PM
Correct me if I am wrong here fellas, but if everyone creates their own custom trust lists Default Trust will have little to no meaning....
Well the default trust will alawys have some meaning, especially to the new members which don't know how to create their own.
It's not such a complex thing that a new member will not understand if he gives a try here. If a majority of the persons build a custom list, Dt will have a little value only. By the way, as per LoyceV, adding someone doesn't mean a trusted person rather a good habit of providing valid feedback. Again, most of the current DT members deserves to be in the custom list.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
January 10, 2019, 12:03:36 PM
Correct me if I am wrong here fellas, but if everyone creates their own custom trust lists Default Trust will have little to no meaning....

Correct me if I am wrong here fellas, but that's exactly the goal. To see the DT as a tool for newbies that's all.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
January 10, 2019, 12:01:52 PM
New users in DT2, who were not in the "old" DT2 or DT1. No user ID on the trust page, so I couldn't create profile links, sorry. Please review and make adjustments if needed.
-snip-
Sylon
Yuck. Excluded; first name that popped up. It seems that some DT1 people still have unmaintained lists.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
January 10, 2019, 11:59:17 AM
New members of DT2, who were not in the "old" DT2 or DT1. No user ID on the trust page, so I couldn't create profile links, sorry. Please review and make adjustments if needed. This is based on coinlocket$'s snapshot of the old system vs the current DT2 list as of a few minutes ago. Things change quickly so feel free to yell at me if something is wrong.

A-10
aacoins
Adriano
Aerys2
Akka
alp
AltcoinSteps
Anduck
Anon11073
anonymousminer
asche
Astro
AT101ET
Barcode_
BG4
bill gator
BiPolarBob
BitcoinNewsMagazine
bittawm
Branduardi
buckrogers
Carlton Banks
Carra23
ChiBitCTy
chimk
Chris!
chronicsky
comit
Corrosive
cryptoheadd
cryptonic21
CydeWeys
DaveF
dazedfool
dbshck
DebitMe
digicoinuser
dolphriends
dozerz
eddie13
elianite
Ente
Entropy-uc
Eodguy149
ezeminer
F2b
Fattcatt
fhh
fluffypony
forrestv
Fortify
franckuestein
frankenmint
gocoins
guigui371
Gunthar
gwillen
Halab
HCP
hephaist0s
Hiroaki
Hox
hybridsole
IdiotCoder
iron77
Jet Cash
JoelKatz
Kialara
kingscrown
klaaas
kneim
Kryptowerk
Kushedout
LeGaulois
Lesbian Cow
m4nki
Matt Corallo
Meni Rosenfeld
micromen
midnightmagic
miffman
mike
mikeywith
minifrij
Minor Miner
Mister k
montreal
mrkent
MrLehmann
ndnh
ninjarobot
o_e_l_e_o
OmegaStarScream
Otoh
Pieter Wuille
Pistachio
pmorici
Poloherb
polymerbit
PsychoticBoy
Raoul Duke
rdponticelli
RealHummer
rickbig41
risho
romanornr
rusbitcoinuser
Saint-loup
saveawedge
SFR10
SgtSpike
Shitcointalk
SolarSilver
Spazzer
squall1066
ssateneth
start the art
Sylon
teeGUMES
TheAnalogKid
TheBanksLife
TheNewAnon135246
Ticked
tmfp
TommyBitcoin
tothemoonsands
Tramirostronix
twbt
vanycon
vizique
Vladimir
welshcollectibles
wheelz1200
WOLTAN78
Xal0lex
xhomerx10
Xprim777
yakuza699
yogg
zefir
zekoroger
Zepher
ZipReg
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 22
January 10, 2019, 11:57:27 AM
Correct me if I am wrong here fellas, but if everyone creates their own custom trust lists Default Trust will have little to no meaning....
Well the default trust will alawys have some meaning, especially to the new members which don't know how to create their own.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
January 10, 2019, 11:57:25 AM
If I understood the system correctly, it means theymos is encouraging all of us to create our custom trust list.
This was always the case due to abuse on both layers. Some people are ego-maniacs and very petty (I'm stealing this from hilarious) but the list remained mostly static.

EFS is the Turkish mod. He can be very petty sometimes and you probably just said something he (or his alts) didn't like at one point. Just check his trust list and see who he's excluded as there's many very trusted users there.
This is a valid reason to exclude him (plus the link that you've posted). He got off easy. People that have bad exclusions are likely to have bad judgement overall.
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 9525
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January 10, 2019, 11:53:14 AM
You can - https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

This file contains a complete dump of all custom trust. It is updated every Saturday. x->y means x trusts y. x-/>y means x excludes y.

Just Ctrl+F search for your name.

LFC - you are trusted by jeremypwr, Joca97, Fakhoury, Don Pedro Dinero, Devawnm367, and you are excluded by EFS.

Thanks buddy, sent you 2 Merit’s. I have no fucking idea who EFS is Grin
Was hoping more people would have me in their trust network to be honest Sad

EFS is the Turkish mod. He can be very petty sometimes and you probably just said something he (or his alts) didn't like at one point. Just check his trust list and see who he's excluded as there's many very trusted users there. They're rarely based on actual trustworthiness but are just people he's had runs in before or have called him out on his lies or something else. As far as I recall he even exuded me right after I made this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10679576 (so that tells you a lot about that situation). Darkstar and yahoo are also excluded and probably denied him or his alts from a campaign so on the naughty list you go.





Thanks for explaining buddy Smiley

Edit - He has removed me from his exclusion list - Well he told me that via PM
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