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hero member
Activity: 908
Merit: 657
January 10, 2019, 02:51:27 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers.  I can understand why you hate Lauda  LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

 Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging  Grin


And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.


Sorry, not my style.

 Cool

You know, just because you add  Cool to every post doesn’t mean you don’t come across salty af. It’s not fooling anyone.
member
Activity: 364
Merit: 13
Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack
January 10, 2019, 02:46:22 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers.  I can understand why you hate Lauda  LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

 Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging  Grin


And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.


Sorry, not my style.

 Cool
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 255
January 10, 2019, 02:41:59 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers.  I can understand why you hate Lauda  LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

 Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18503
January 10, 2019, 02:36:14 AM
Am I right in saying that only DT1s can exclude another member from DT1? So even if you have 100 users (with >10 merit) actively excluding you, as long as you have 10 including you, you will become DT1, unless the other DT1 members exclude you?

Also, I think LoyceV might already be working on this, but a page which shows everyone's votes from users with >10 and >100 merit would be nice. It woild certainly help DT1s to see who is close to inclusion, and whether they want to exclude (or support) that person prior to them getting on.
member
Activity: 364
Merit: 13
Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack
January 10, 2019, 02:24:03 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers.  I can understand why you hate Lauda  LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

 Cool
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1989
฿uy ฿itcoin
January 10, 2019, 02:21:36 AM
these are pretty sweeping changes. what do people expect the net effect to be?

it seems like getting default trust feedback (green or red) will become a lot more likely, since many more people will become eligible for DT1 vs now. it'll be interesting to see how retaliation/feedback countering plays out.

Using the trust system for retaliation will likely get you removed from DT1. I'm not sure how the new system will play out but it seems likely that people will try to remain DT1 by following the rules.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1483
January 10, 2019, 02:17:36 AM
these are pretty sweeping changes. what do people expect the net effect to be?

it seems like getting default trust feedback (green or red) will become a lot more likely, since many more people will become eligible for DT1 vs now. it'll be interesting to see how retaliation/feedback countering plays out.
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 255
January 10, 2019, 02:14:32 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers.  I can understand why you hate Lauda  LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1989
฿uy ฿itcoin
January 10, 2019, 02:09:33 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool

Why are you worrying about it so much if it isn't worth a damn?
member
Activity: 364
Merit: 13
Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack
January 10, 2019, 02:06:54 AM
The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.


 Cool
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 5894
Meh.
January 10, 2019, 02:02:35 AM
Do you think it will be abused more now because anyone now can create a team of 10 and add each other on their trust list?

If anything, with these changes with monthly rotations and all, this will be the best solution moving forward. The previous DT system was outdated and although the system as a whole wasn't abused but perhaps a few people within it abused their power there'll always be bad apples. At least now it'll be more of a community vote which is great in moving towards decentralization.

Either way, the whole point of this seems to be for people to create their own trust lists while also forming their own opinions. Which may in time make the DT system obsolete.
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 255
January 10, 2019, 01:54:27 AM
Do you think it will be abused more now because anyone now can create a team of 10 and add each other on their trust list?
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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January 10, 2019, 01:50:54 AM
not my choice/decision to be here! Tongue

Same bud, if I’m still on it next week then cool, if not then still cool. All I can do is make sure I am more impartial, fair and open to criticism than others who were previously on DT..

It’s down to the community now and that’s what we all wanted
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
January 10, 2019, 01:48:04 AM
Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

yes, as far I understood theymos' post the user is untrusted by default on all levels..

Muchos butthurtious gonna be knocking about then

probably... not my choice/decision to be here! Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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January 10, 2019, 01:47:13 AM
Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

yes, as far I understood theymos' post the user is untrusted by default on all levels..

Muchos butthurtious gonna be knocking about then
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
January 10, 2019, 01:43:55 AM
Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

yes, as far I understood theymos' post the user is untrusted by default on all levels..
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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January 10, 2019, 01:42:42 AM
Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?
legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
January 10, 2019, 01:30:24 AM
Probably unpopular opinion but with these DT changes and quite a few of the new DT1 and 2 members being Escrow Agents, there needs to be more neutrals handed out than positives. An Escrow Agent handing out a negative would in part be losing them possible service fees as they'll just get picked over for someone that hands out positive trust for <$50 deals. (Which is also somewhat of a problem)

Don't mean to pick on krogothmanhattan but it's an easy example as his list was so large. He didn't ask for DT1 and it was just out of the blue forced on him.. takes a bit of time for him to revamp it now but we just saw what sort of temporary havoc it stirred up.

To be clear I like and trust most of these guys but when you're vying for people to choose your escrow service over someone elses I think negative ratings kind of taint your image.. which DT shouldn't be gamed to turn a blind eye and not call people out on their shadyness to further your chances of being selected as everyones top 1 2 or 3 escrow choice.
donator
Activity: 4718
Merit: 4218
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January 10, 2019, 01:20:08 AM
I deny randomly messaging you on your slack and calling you names while also making comments about your wife. I do however recall that I at one point wrote "I understand why your wife left you", out of context obviously.

What, was it not random?  Cheesy

Just pointing out that while my private responses to trolls always seem to make it in screenshots, they somehow always forget to include the parts where they're insulting or threatening me or my family.

I'd say let's get back on topic, but who am I kidding.  This line of rhetoric can't end with me being the victim.


Edit; The reason I'm bringing it up is because I think it's real rich that you are saying what and what we don't want to see here at bitcointalk. It feels like you've been more disconnected from what's been going on than most other users and you've been here for so long that it baffles me. They do say that you can get drunk off of power and if one were to look at your history that seems to be the case.

Drunk off of power?  You just admitted to insulting me saying my wife left me and I didn't even leave you negative trust.  That seems to demonstrate the opposite.  However, there shouldn't be a place of trust for people like you who insult and harass others outside of this forum in an attempt to get a selective damaging screenshot to discredit someone's reputation.
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 5894
Meh.
January 10, 2019, 01:10:17 AM
So you are saying that I randomly messaged you and started namecalling and making comments about your wife?

Are you denying it?  I want to be perfectly clear.

I deny randomly messaging you on your slack and calling you names while also making comments about your wife. I do however recall that I at one point wrote "I understand why your wife left you", out of context obviously.


This is actually a good read.  You can see that you didn't understand how the DT network worked thinking I added defcon23 to DT with my feedback

Where did I say that you added defcon23 to DT? You gave me shit for having left trust for people I've dealt with that you considered to be scammers and I replied back with that you left positive to defcon after my negative due to him attempting to extort me. You justified it with "having made several trades without issues". Just as I had with the users you mentioned, but it's different for you somehow, even though your trust ratings (at the time) held a lot more weight than mine did.


Edit; The reason I'm bringing it up is because I think it's real rich that you are saying what and what we don't want to see here at bitcointalk. It feels like you've been more disconnected from what's been going on than most other users and you've been here for so long that it baffles me. They do say that you can get drunk off of power and if one were to look at your history that seems to be the case.

Edit2; Now that I look back at that conversation I remember exactly how it started. I was going to make a physical DiY coin and I messaged you asking you what mint you were using for your coins, in which you replied saying that you wouldn't tell and then you went on the rant. Why that part didn't make it in the screenshots I couldn't tell you, perhaps because of how horrible you made me feel which resulted in me not thinking clearly, oh well.
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