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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:30:21 AM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 10, 2019, 11:15:39 AM

You can - https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

This file contains a complete dump of all custom trust. It is updated every Saturday. x->y means x trusts y. x-/>y means x excludes y.

Just Ctrl+F search for your name.

LFC - you are trusted by jeremypwr, Joca97, Fakhoury, Don Pedro Dinero, Devawnm367, and you are excluded by EFS.

Thanks buddy, sent you 2 Merit’s. I have no fucking idea who EFS is Grin

Was hoping more people would have me in their trust network to be honest Sad

EFS is the Turkish mod. He can be very petty sometimes and you probably just said something he (or his alts) didn't like at one point. Just check his trust list and see who he's excluded as there's many very trusted users there. They're rarely based on actual trustworthiness but are just people he's had runs in before or have called him out on his lies or something else. As far as I recall he even exuded me right after I made this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10679576 (so that tells you a lot about that situation). Darkstar and yahoo are also excluded and probably denied him or his alts from a campaign so on the naughty list you go.

mOgliE

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Ahahahahah

I like it, you don't change by small paces do you? Grin

Well anyway I think it's more linked to the first idea of Trust system: to build your own.
Anyone can get hacked, anyone can have a sudden change of mind when big coins are on the balance.

This is a good way to clearly state on the whole forum "DT is NOT safe, DT is a tool but you're the one responsible for keeping your trades safe".

Thumbs up.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on January 10, 2019, 11:38:14 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:30:21 AM

Thanks buddy, sent you 2 Merit’s. I have no fucking idea who EFS is Grin

He is moderator of the turkish board, never saw him posting in any English board as per my memory recalls.

I PM’d him & asked him why he excluded me from his trust list -

Quote from: EFS on January 10, 2019, 03:38:48 PM

I don't remember. I don't know you and I don't have any problem.

Fucking stupid if you ask me.
Maybe I pissed him off predicting a Turkish football team to lose in the gambling section Cheesy

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on January 10, 2019, 11:35:28 AM

If I understood the system correctly, it means theymos is encouraging all of us to create our custom trust list.
I think he do not want to keep fix DT1 and DT2.

I think he might like to rotate the DT1 with this criteria. If DT1 will be rotated then DT2 will be automatically rotated.

Quote from: theymos on January 09, 2019, 02:03:26 PM

#3
I will periodically (maybe every month) be reconstructing the default trust list to include everyone who matches these criteria:
- If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank.
- You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days.
- Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries.
- You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection.
- You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
- You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you yourself sent.
- You must have at least 1 person directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 100, not including merit you yourself sent.

Correct me If I am wrong.

Yes,he don't want to stick with only some members since people calling them as gang so he (theymos) really wanted to introduce decentralization into the bitcointalk forum as well.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:30:21 AM

Thanks buddy, sent you 2 Merit’s. I have no fucking idea who EFS is Grin

He is moderator of the turkish board, never saw him posting in any English board as per my memory recalls.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 11:31:30 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:30:21 AM

Was hoping more people would have me in their trust network to be honest Sad

You have sent a very small number of ratings. Given that number, I'm actually surprised that so many people have added you TBH. Adding someone who sends almost no ratings (regardless of whether they are positive or negative) is pointless in my opinion.

But in your opinion scams are to be enabled and protected ?

I'm shocked anyone added you except the obvious ass kissers you got on DT in the first place for that exact reason.

Why would your opinion be valid with regards a trust system? seems almost ludicrous.

If you deny this is the case ask me know to provide information and I will.

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If I understood the system correctly, it means theymos is encouraging all of us to create our custom trust list.
I think he do not want to keep fix DT1 and DT2.

I think he might like to rotate the DT1 with this criteria. If DT1 will be rotated then DT2 will be automatically rotated.

Quote from: theymos on January 09, 2019, 02:03:26 PM

#3
I will periodically (maybe every month) be reconstructing the default trust list to include everyone who matches these criteria:
- If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank.
- You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days.
- Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries.
- You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection.
- You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
- You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you yourself sent.
- You must have at least 1 person directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 100, not including merit you yourself sent.

Correct me If I am wrong.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:30:21 AM

Was hoping more people would have me in their trust network to be honest Sad

You have sent a very small number of ratings. Given that number, I'm actually surprised that so many people have added you TBH. Adding someone who sends almost no ratings (regardless of whether they are positive or negative) is pointless in my opinion.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 10, 2019, 11:15:39 AM

You can - https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

This file contains a complete dump of all custom trust. It is updated every Saturday. x->y means x trusts y. x-/>y means x excludes y.

Just Ctrl+F search for your name.

LFC - you are trusted by jeremypwr, Joca97, Fakhoury, Don Pedro Dinero, Devawnm367, and you are excluded by EFS.

Thanks buddy, sent you 2 Merit’s. I have no fucking idea who EFS is Grin

Was hoping more people would have me in their trust network to be honest Sad

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 10, 2019, 11:18:23 AM

Quote from: tmfp on January 10, 2019, 11:13:57 AM

Quote from: 100bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:02:57 AM

Is there any way to know whether I belong to anyone's trust list?

Yeah, go to your Trust Settings page and hit Ctrl + f and see how many times your name comes up.

This works only if the people on the default list (DT1 or DT2) or people who you have on your custom list trust you.

For example, if user#50000 not on my trust list, not on the DT list, will trust me it will be no show on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust, or do I missing something?

Yeah, you're right, I've just been using my method to quickly check how things are changing regarding my custom list.

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Quote from: Lesbian Cow on January 10, 2019, 11:18:20 AM

Interesting. I have ~DefaultTrust and just use my list of inclusions and exclusions.

You don't actually have to exclude DefaultTrust - just delete the entry.

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Quote from: tmfp on January 10, 2019, 11:13:57 AM

Quote from: 100bitcoin on January 10, 2019, 11:02:57 AM

Is there any way to know whether I belong to anyone's trust list?

Yeah, go to your Trust Settings page and hit Ctrl + f and see how many times your name comes up.

This works only if the people on the default list (DT1 or DT2) or people who you have on your custom list trust you.

For example, if user#50000 not on my trust list, not on the DT list, will trust me it will be no show on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust, or do I missing something?

It works here, next week https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 10, 2019, 10:48:01 AM

Quote from: mdayonliner on January 10, 2019, 10:03:11 AM

Can anyone explain please:
- Why do we have DT2?
- Why are we encouraged to set trust depth: 2 ?
- Why is maximum trust depth 4?

DT2 is just part of the entire trust system, it's the default choice, and if you don't like it you can choose anywhere from DT1 to DT4.
I've tried DT4 before, and it was slow already. The amount of data increases exponentially with depth, I haven't tested how long it takes to load now. DT5 and deeper would become very large.

Quote from: LoyceV on January 10, 2019, 09:09:03 AM

If you don't trust someone's judgement, you shouldn't include him in your trust list.

I don't think technically it's correct.

Let me give you a hypothetical example.
I can trust Loyce:
- with data analysis
- with money.

I may not trust Loyce:
- views he has about religion.

So overall what should be my stand for Loyce?

When I said "someone's judgement", I meant on judging others. If I tag users based on their religion, you should probably not trust my judgement (and thus not add me to your trust list). If you trust me with money, you can say so in my trust feedback, but it's still not a reason to add me to your trust list.
If, however, you trust my ability to judge others, and agree with the majority of feedback I left, you could add me to your trust list.
(and until recently I didn't know this also includes my ability to add users to my own trust list, so I'm still experimenting with the right users there)

Quote from: Lesbian Cow on January 10, 2019, 10:04:22 AM

Correct me if I am wrong here fellas, but if everyone creates their own custom trust lists Default Trust will have little to no meaning....

You can (and probably should) keep DefaultTrust on your own trust list, so you have the full force of DT1 and DT2 to add to your own trust ratings.

Interesting. I have ~DefaultTrust and just use my list of inclusions and exclusions.

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