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sr. member
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October 11, 2011, 02:17:15 AM
Word problem:

SolidCoin has been generating blocks at a rate of ~22 per minute. At 8800 blocks, how long before SolidCoin's chain length surpasses Bitcoin's?
full member
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October 11, 2011, 02:15:41 AM
It's currently at ~3 blk/s ~3s/blk.  What's the target? 3 minutes?  Still a ways to go.
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 02:14:15 AM
So how are you diff 101 @ block 8297 and the person above you is diff 100 @ 8413?

I was showing the blocks around the jump up from 88 diff to 100 not the current rate....

The current now that I see is: 8565 @ 100
Your quote had difficulty 101.  Now it is 100?  Or was it just a typo?

Difficulty is rounded to nearest whole number for pool statistics eg. if current diff. in client is 100.6 the SC client shows it as being 100 and rounds it down instead of up like pools do to 101 etc.

Come on this is basic stuff folks. Get a grip.
newbie
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October 11, 2011, 02:12:24 AM
*wondering if his "i am out" has anything to to with his innitial statement that he has his computing "power" outside bussiness time.

So people are back at work and need their computer time now, so he can't keep on mining for some hours ?
donator
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Gerald Davis
October 11, 2011, 02:11:27 AM
So how are you diff 101 @ block 8297 and the person above you is diff 100 @ 8413?

I was showing the blocks around the jump up from 88 diff to 100 not the current rate....

The current now that I see is: 8565 @ 100
Your quote had difficulty 101.  Now it is 100?  Or was it just a typo?
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 02:10:12 AM
Difficulty 100 at block 8592 over here. This is the good chain right here folks.
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October 11, 2011, 02:10:01 AM
sr. member
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October 11, 2011, 02:09:44 AM
the rate is not slowing down. still over 1 block per sec at diff 92, actually same as when diff 48

Not sure where you are getting your info but as of right now the diff just went up from 88 to 100



Edit:
And for proof of my statements instead of just baseless garbage:
661   8297   2011-10-11 05:55:40   0:0:17   101
660   8291   2011-10-11 05:55:23   0:1:60   101
659   8251   2011-10-11 05:53:23   0:0:10   88
658   8249   2011-10-11 05:53:13   0:1:4   0   88

Blocks on coinotron.... see no 92...

So, seconds to minutes between blocks many of which are invalid. Here's what I'm seeing coming in...

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Where's all that hashing power coming from!?

If anyone wants this script...

Code:
tail -f debug.log | gawk ' BEGIN{ last=systime()  } /SetBestChain/ { now=systime(); print now ": " $3 " " $4 " (" now-last ")"; last=now  }'
Red
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October 11, 2011, 02:07:34 AM
Is the exchange open? I'm not seeing any new trades.

Seems like the perfect time for double spends.
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Gerald Davis
October 11, 2011, 02:07:10 AM
#99
So how are you diff 101 @ block 8297 and the person above you is diff 100 @ 8413?
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Gerald Davis
October 11, 2011, 02:01:26 AM
#98
Herp derp there certainly are a lot of tards on here. Thinking that 30000 cpus joining at the start is completely logical. Ever heard of a botnet? The more they hear about it the more will mine, including them. I have personally generated plenty of blocks, although there is a very large amount of stales what do you expect with so many cpus and little difficulty.

Why would a botnet mine a brand new nearly worthless cryptocurrency?  Botnets generally have more profitable things to do with their computing power.  30,000+ nodes is illogical.  Even more illogical is that as difficulty rises the speed of blocks has remained constant between 1 & 2 blocks per second.  That would mean not only do you have 30,000 nodes but you are picking up 100+ nodes a minute to avoid block times slowing down (hashing power falling behind difficulty).
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October 11, 2011, 02:01:16 AM
#97
If different people are seeing different difficulties and block rates, that would be a fork then wouldn't it?

If people could post numbers? Block 8413 Diff 100.
Red
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October 11, 2011, 01:59:39 AM
#96
the rate is not slowing down. still over 1 block per sec at diff 92, actually same as when diff 48

Not sure where you are getting your info but as of right now the diff just went up from 88 to 100

If different people are seeing different difficulties and block rates, that would be a fork then wouldn't it?
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October 11, 2011, 01:56:05 AM
#95
Blockrate is now about 1 block every 2 seconds...

still getting a steady 1 per sec, but im sure when it slows down we will see the CH here roaring like a lion.

Block number 8305.
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October 11, 2011, 01:54:53 AM
#94
Herp derp there certainly are a lot of tards on here. Thinking that 30000 cpus joining at the start is completely logical. Ever heard of a botnet? The more they hear about it the more will mine, including them. I have personally generated plenty of blocks, although there is a very large amount of stales what do you expect with so many cpus and little difficulty.
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Gerald Davis
October 11, 2011, 01:53:52 AM
#93
For BCX to have a fork with a greater sum of work than the main chain he'd have to someone stop that from being distributed to the other peers. In which case the "Some of you are on my fork" can't be true.

No he wouldn't.  If "his block" chain isn't being received by 100% of nodes then there is a fork and some people would be on his fork and some wouldn't.  As to how the chain could be split.  If we had the source code we could look.


Idle speculation follows:
 Possible that the bitcoind equivelent couldn't properly handle the massive increase in blocks which would be compounded if their are forks and failed to replicate them to other nodes fast enough.  In other words each fragment of the chain was producing blocks faster than it was getting blocks from other fragments.  If each fragment stayed ahead of the blocks it received from other fragments then each fragment would believe it was "the longest chain".  If true then that problem will be self correcting as block rate slows down and parts of the chain catch up with work done by other parts.  Bad news is all but one of those chains end up being worthless.  Luck of the draw.  Well luck favored the person with most computing resources.  For others it would just be luck that they ended up on the "true" longest chain.

Given we have no source code to look at this is just idle speculation.

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October 11, 2011, 01:53:36 AM
#92
Blockrate is now about 1 block every 2 seconds...
legendary
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October 11, 2011, 01:45:42 AM
#91
not a programmer but i do understand higher math and the calculation that 30,000 cpus joined in the first two hours is conservative and impossible. multi forks is the reason
You must be using a definition of fork that I'm familiar with. BCX claimed to be mining a fork and followed with "Some of you are on my fork I suspect.". The only way they could be on that fork and not the main chain is if there was a break in the network somewhere. Peers share their blocks so the fork will become the main chain if it has a greater sum of work. For BCX to have a fork with a greater sum of work than the main chain he'd have to someone stop that from being distributed to the other peers. In which case the "Some of you are on my fork" can't be true.

It's certainly possible for blocks to be solved faster even while difficulty is increasing. All it requires is hash rate to increase faster than difficulty. This is happening on namecoin at the moment as merged miners come on board, drastically increasing the hash rate while difficulty increases are capped at 4x.
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Gerald Davis
October 11, 2011, 01:44:44 AM
#90
I doubt CH got banned.  He is part of the "in" crowd.  The fact that he isn't here triumphantly likely points to a problem.

Like for current block speed to still be 2 blocks per second would require tens of thousands of CPU and hundreds being added every minute to avoid block speed slowing down.  
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October 11, 2011, 01:40:44 AM
#89
I for one would have appreciated if 'banning' (and other implications) wasn't thrown around so easily by a Mod, especially with just minutes of room for explanation. Seeing as how there are numerous other reports of the blockchain growing peculiarly fast, I imagine it'd be beneficial to discovery for the alleged perpetrator to be active in this discussion.

Though I can see dealing with a personality like BCX could be tricky for a Mod, I think Maged dropped the ball on this one.

No big deal really in the grand scheme of things (no one bats 1.0), just my opinion.
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