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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 07, 2024, 06:12:52 PM

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There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Preparation is indeed vital in this sports. Even if you are a clear winner, but you failed to train hard, you can easily be beaten by the underdog. Though Haney has seemingly advantage over Garcia, he needs to work out on his plans inside the ring. You'll never know what you're gonna get once the fight begins.

With the current odds, Haney is the heavy favourite here. And stake is on the side that this fight won't go the distance as well based on the odds. Garcia for sure knows the pulse of the boxing fans and the betting public, so more then likely, he's on the serious side of preparation here to prove what he's got.

That odds for the fight not going the distance is juicy. I might place a bet later. The experts are expecting another Haney decision. But Haney is capable of stopping Ryan here. The discrepancy in skills are too wide and Haney might deform Ryan's face for a stoppage win. And the only way for Ryan to win is by KO/TKO which I am also hoping to happen if he lands his bombs, so I'm taking that bet later.

The difference in boxing to other sports is that fighters records are continuous. There are no resets like next season, next year which is why there are less upsets compared to the other sports. And a lot of fighters will also try to protect their 0. They will train hard for sure unless someone gets exploited like taking a late notice fight.

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Quote from: yazher on April 07, 2024, 06:07:35 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on April 07, 2024, 09:30:07 AM

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Haney is a defensive fighter too, and not just someone who can throw a punch packing with power. Ryan will have to study all of the guy's moves in the ring if he wants to succeed in taking Haney down. He can go on to use all technicalities and just get points to win via decision, but Haney can do the same and even provoke Garcia to make a mistake that leads to a knockout.

I'm excited to the antics Garcia will bring to this fight. He's known to be a showboater, but have some obvious skills to back up his showboating.

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Quote from: yazher on April 07, 2024, 06:07:35 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on April 07, 2024, 09:30:07 AM

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

Preparation is indeed vital in this sports. Even if you are a clear winner, but you failed to train hard, you can easily be beaten by the underdog. Though Haney has seemingly advantage over Garcia, he needs to work out on his plans inside the ring. You'll never know what you're gonna get once the fight begins.

With the current odds, Haney is the heavy favourite here. And stake is on the side that this fight won't go the distance as well based on the odds. Garcia for sure knows the pulse of the boxing fans and the betting public, so more then likely, he's on the serious side of preparation here to prove what he's got.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 07, 2024, 09:30:07 AM

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

Well, if we based on their last fight Haney is far greater than Ryan. Still, as we all know, this is a matter of who trains a lot more and gathers new skills from training because if Ryan's strategy works, Haney is in danger because he didn't expect any deceiving strategy from Ryan. After all, he took him as a normal opponent just like anybody else he had fought. Ryan has power and speed and that is his main key he only trains on how to work it out and land some clean punches on Haney. That's why this may be an obvious disadvantage for Ryan, I still wanted to watch it live and see if he can easily beat him despite all of Ryan's efforts to train.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 06, 2024, 05:19:54 AM

Quote from: livingfree on April 06, 2024, 02:35:07 AM

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

Fight is getting closer and he has to really focus, gambling addiction is not problem but this can have bad impact on the fight because gambling addiction can make him experience mental problems.
If it only about money then whether he wins or loses he will still get share of the payment for the fight against Devin Haney, but this is not about money or bankruptcy after retirement but about his career as boxer.
Ryan Garcia is still young and he is boxer who has very good potential in the long term, mental health must be really taken care of, especially before he made everyone think he was crazy because of his unreasonable attitude.

Previously he had an undefeated record, but when he faced Gervonta Davis, who is also boxer with the same undefeated record, Ryan lost his record because he lost by knockout in the seventh round.
If in the next fight against Devin Haney he experiences mental problems and is not focused on the fight, then it is possible that Devin Haney could cause Ryan to suffer second defeat.
Devin Haney himself has never experienced defeat and has the undisputed champion title, so this is tough fight for Ryan, considering that his current condition is really not what it was before he lost to Gervonta Davis.

This might not affect him this time as the fight is already scheduled but this could affect his future matches and career itself. Because of addiction, it's a serious thing that a professional athlete that can ever get involved.

Other boxers might not choose him even if the fans want them to fight because there can be some thoughts that it's going to be not a serious fight and it can all be bought and sold as they box. Well, the typical known and selling out of fight but I am not saying that he's going to do it but the possibility is there but not yet and hoping that it won't happen.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 06, 2024, 02:35:07 AM

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

I heard him say in one press conference that it's a huge responsibility that at a very young age he already making $10 million, Ryan is not matured enough to handle big things, this is why we see an emotional breakdown and a shift of characters, the load is too much for this young guy.

And because of this Haney thinks its an easy fight for him he is unbothered by Ryan's behavior

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“Ryan is just another opponent for me. I feel like I’m in competition with greatness,” said Haney. “That’s why I train so hard, and that’s why I work so hard. Even if my opponent isn’t focused. I don’t know if he is or he isn’t. That’s not for us to focus on. I still put my all into getting better and better.”

Source: Devin Haney Embraces Light Welterweight, Dismisses Ryan's Antics - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/devin-haney-embraces-light-welterweight-dismisses-ryans-antics/)

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

I may not have that $10M right now but for a kid that can earn that much at a young age sure is a lot and he can confidently spend that to anything or any activities like gambling them all along.

So, if he's having some emotional breakdown. Let it all set on the floor of the ring and let the people that doubts him just show his talent and then take care of the rest when the fight's done.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 06, 2024, 02:35:07 AM

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

I heard him say in one press conference that it's a huge responsibility that at a very young age he already making $10 million, Ryan is not matured enough to handle big things, this is why we see an emotional breakdown and a shift of characters, the load is too much for this young guy.

And because of this Haney thinks its an easy fight for him he is unbothered by Ryan's behavior

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“Ryan is just another opponent for me. I feel like I’m in competition with greatness,” said Haney. “That’s why I train so hard, and that’s why I work so hard. Even if my opponent isn’t focused. I don’t know if he is or he isn’t. That’s not for us to focus on. I still put my all into getting better and better.”

Source: Devin Haney Embraces Light Welterweight, Dismisses Ryan's Antics - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/devin-haney-embraces-light-welterweight-dismisses-ryans-antics/)

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 07, 2024, 05:51:39 AM

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 06, 2024, 03:04:21 AM

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

Pacquiao, De La Hoya and the other legends were big PPV stars even when the times they lose because they are championship level fighters. They bounced back and became champions again and again.

Meanwhile Ryan is yet to fight for his title against Haney. I think he made the wrong decision to pick Haney. How will Ryan grabs a belt when his skills are too inferior to the champions holding the belts? If he gets humiliated by Haney, I don't think he will become a PPV star again. Maybe his handlers will try another PPV event in the future again but it will fail until he gets a real belt. The underserving Romero was his biggest chance of grabbing a belt but sadly the politics stopped it from happening. But hopefully, Ryan can land his big bombs on Haney to pull an upset. Cheesy

He took the opportunity to fight the best, so I would say that he is a great boxer who are not afraid of taking a higher risk. If he would not fight Haney, eventually they will still meet in the ring, and maybe he doesn't want to hear criticism from the fans that he is cherry picking fight, it's not his style anymore as there's nothing to be afraid anymore since he is not an undefeated fighter. I guess he still believe that he has a high value, so regardless of the outcome, he is confident that he'll have a big fight waiting for him, and that is another championship fight.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 06, 2024, 10:43:55 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on April 06, 2024, 03:04:21 AM

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

Pacquiao, De La Hoya and the other legends were big PPV stars even when the times they lose because they are championship level fighters. They bounced back and became champions again and again.

Meanwhile Ryan is yet to fight for his title against Haney. I think he made the wrong decision to pick Haney. How will Ryan grabs a belt when his skills are too inferior to the champions holding the belts? If he gets humiliated by Haney, I don't think he will become a PPV star again. Maybe his handlers will try another PPV event in the future again but it will fail until he gets a real belt. The underserving Romero was his biggest chance of grabbing a belt but sadly the politics stopped it from happening. But hopefully, Ryan can land his big bombs on Haney to pull an upset. Cheesy

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 06, 2024, 03:04:21 AM

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

Ryan already knows how to stay popular even if he losses, so he will stay and will have more fights. There's no way he will beat Haney, but in case he will, that would make him a top favorites and that champions will dying to fight him due to the big money he could generate in any match up.

Just imagine, this guy already has a possible fight after Haney as he is making noise on Cruz as his possible next opponent, so that's another money coming for him, and Ryan making drama in boxing makes him so popular that fans have invested on his story even though we aren't sure if he is telling the truth or not.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 06, 2024, 02:35:07 AM

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

Fight is getting closer and he has to really focus, gambling addiction is not problem but this can have bad impact on the fight because gambling addiction can make him experience mental problems.
If it only about money then whether he wins or loses he will still get share of the payment for the fight against Devin Haney, but this is not about money or bankruptcy after retirement but about his career as boxer.
Ryan Garcia is still young and he is boxer who has very good potential in the long term, mental health must be really taken care of, especially before he made everyone think he was crazy because of his unreasonable attitude.

Previously he had an undefeated record, but when he faced Gervonta Davis, who is also boxer with the same undefeated record, Ryan lost his record because he lost by knockout in the seventh round.
If in the next fight against Devin Haney he experiences mental problems and is not focused on the fight, then it is possible that Devin Haney could cause Ryan to suffer second defeat.
Devin Haney himself has never experienced defeat and has the undisputed champion title, so this is tough fight for Ryan, considering that his current condition is really not what it was before he lost to Gervonta Davis.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 01, 2024, 10:18:40 PM

This is not about Pitbull being afraid. This is about Pitbull challenging Ryan Garcia, however, what is this challenge about? Is this about money and popularity? Ryan Garcia is not a champion hehehe. King Ry should be the boxer who is issuing these challenges but why is Pitbull treating King Ry like a champion? Pitbull should challenge Teofimo Lopez or Subriel Matías, I reckon.

In any case, on Haney vs. King Ry, I predict that this might not go to the decision. Haney is very much stronger in this higher weight division. King Ry with his mental instability might surrender before round 9.

I guess so, despite Ryan not anymore a champion but his popularity still stay. Every champion wants to fight him to gain more money and I'm sure the same thing happened in the mind of Pitbull. But before that will happen, maybe let's wait for the outcome of the fight (Garcia vs Haney), because if haney will win, what Pitbull wants might be given but if Ryan will wn, you know this guy would ask more and will challenge a fighter that could help him a bigger paycheck, I'm think Ryan vs Tank II, is it possible?

However, how long can King Ry stay very popular? I reckon after more losses, he will not be a good choice as an opponent for boxers who want to become big names in the sport.

On King Ry being a champion vs. Tank Davis 2, I agree! However, King Ry should not make a stupid agreement with a hustler like Tank Davis. Also King Ry will not win vs. Haney. It should be Devin Haney vs. Tank heheheh.

He is still in his prime, so I think even if he losses here, he can still make more fights and still be as popular. Of course, if he losses here, he will take a tune up fight, just like when he losses to Tank Davis.

And after he won, fans are hype again. Manny losses many fights and still with his charisma, still remain as one of boxing sweepstakes up to his retirement. Ryan though needs to be a belt holder to just continue with his hype an fans still wanting to see him.

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Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 05, 2024, 11:19:52 PM

However, how long can King Ry stay very popular? I reckon after more losses, he will not be a good choice as an opponent for boxers who want to become big names in the sport.

If his popularity drops, he should just go on with the YouTuber's boxing match content.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 02, 2024, 07:10:36 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 01, 2024, 10:18:40 PM

This is not about Pitbull being afraid. This is about Pitbull challenging Ryan Garcia, however, what is this challenge about? Is this about money and popularity? Ryan Garcia is not a champion hehehe. King Ry should be the boxer who is issuing these challenges but why is Pitbull treating King Ry like a champion? Pitbull should challenge Teofimo Lopez or Subriel Matías, I reckon.

In any case, on Haney vs. King Ry, I predict that this might not go to the decision. Haney is very much stronger in this higher weight division. King Ry with his mental instability might surrender before round 9.

I guess so, despite Ryan not anymore a champion but his popularity still stay. Every champion wants to fight him to gain more money and I'm sure the same thing happened in the mind of Pitbull. But before that will happen, maybe let's wait for the outcome of the fight (Garcia vs Haney), because if haney will win, what Pitbull wants might be given but if Ryan will wn, you know this guy would ask more and will challenge a fighter that could help him a bigger paycheck, I'm think Ryan vs Tank II, is it possible?

However, how long can King Ry stay very popular? I reckon after more losses, he will not be a good choice as an opponent for boxers who want to become big names in the sport.

On King Ry being a champion vs. Tank Davis 2, I agree! However, King Ry should not make a stupid agreement with a hustler like Tank Davis. Also King Ry will not win vs. Haney. It should be Devin Haney vs. Tank heheheh.

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I know that this is just amateur, but let's take a lot at one of their fights during that day,

https://twitter.com/NashaunDj/status/1775609431197098481

Nothing has change though, Ryan is still no foot work here, and then just relying on his left hook which Haney dodges.

And then Haney throwing those hay makers, but he has improved a lot and those overhand and straight right has vastly improved and that's why he is still undefeated and becoming unified champion at 135 lbs.

Maybe Ryan fell in love with his power and there was no urge to improve his skills. Maybe he thought it is okay to get hit and behind on points because he knows his power can change the outcome of a fight with a single shot. And Ryan also became a social media personality which allowed him to earn hundreds of thousands every month. That alone made him rich and popular while not needing the money from boxing anymore.

While Haney is not heavy handed, so him and his dad has to develop his skills and technique to win fights. Haney even went to fight in Mexico as a kid during his early days as a pro.

And the official PPV price is $79,99 as expected,

https://www.ppv.com/events/haney-vs-garcia

We also have videos of Ryan surface, him and Youtube influencer Deen the Great doing shadow boxing, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HSg-yi_Hmwk

Haney responded on that video and says that Ryan Garcia looks fat, lol. Ryan though hasn't had history of not making weights although he fought at a catchweight of 138 lbs before.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 03, 2024, 03:45:46 PM

I know that this is just amateur, but let's take a lot at one of their fights during that day,

https://twitter.com/NashaunDj/status/1775609431197098481

Nothing has change though, Ryan is still no foot work here, and then just relying on his left hook which Haney dodges.

And then Haney throwing those hay makers, but he has improved a lot and those overhand and straight right has vastly improved and that's why he is still undefeated and becoming unified champion at 135 lbs.

Maybe Ryan fell in love with his power and there was no urge to improve his skills. Maybe he thought it is okay to get hit and behind on points because he knows his power can change the outcome of a fight with a single shot. And Ryan also became a social media personality which allowed him to earn hundreds of thousands every month. That alone made him rich and popular while not needing the money from boxing anymore.

While Haney is not heavy handed, so him and his dad has to develop his skills and technique to win fights. Haney even went to fight in Mexico as a kid during his early days as a pro.

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I know that this is just amateur, but let's take a lot at one of their fights during that day,

https://twitter.com/NashaunDj/status/1775609431197098481

Nothing has change though, Ryan is still no foot work here, and then just relying on his left hook which Haney dodges.

And then Haney throwing those hay makers, but he has improved a lot and those overhand and straight right has vastly improved and that's why he is still undefeated and becoming unified champion at 135 lbs.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 03, 2024, 12:13:57 AM

Pitbull against Matias for the IBF-WBA unification would be great. But just a few weeks ago Matias signed with Eddie Hearn as his promoter. So I guess it is much easier to make Haney-Matias now because they are in the same network and promotion. But honestly, I consider Pitbull as the weakest among the champions in the division although he is an improvement from the undeserving Rolly. Pitbull is giving up too much size and length and it will be a huge factor against the other champions who has the skills and also the power.

Same here, I thought Cruz is not the strongest among the champions, so I'm not confident he'll be able to win in a unification match.
Rolly is not even a great champion, so him losing to Cruz is not a surprise since per bookie line before the fight, Cruz was the heavy favorite.

According there https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/839135-tszyu-vs-thurman-rolando-rolly-romero-vs-isaac-pitbull-cruz
Cruz has 84% chance of winning, and they are right.

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 03, 2024, 12:13:57 AM

Honestly, I want Ryan to win against Haney. He's got a punchers chance but that's it. As Haney said earlier, maybe him and Ryan are on the same level when they were kids but there's a huge gap at them moment.

I'm glad that Haney were able to acknowledge that they were on the same level with Ryan before, that's good enough for me to take chances and bet on the underdog.

The odds already favor Cruz to win and that what about right as we have seen the Rolly was just pure hype when he fought Tank Davis.

I would also love to see a unification fight between Matias and Cruz. Both are very strong and relentless or pressure fighter. And if in that kind of style clash, the first one who really hit a home run will probably win the fight. The thing with Pitbull is that he might have a strong chin as compare to Matias.

Yeah, weakness of the 140 lbs champion used to be Rolly Romero and now that he lost the fight then Pitbull Cruz. He might have a tough matchup for other champions, but if they figure him out in the next couple of rounds then I don't see Romero winning with the likes of Haney or Teo Lopez.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 03, 2024, 12:13:57 AM

Pitbull against Matias for the IBF-WBA unification would be great. But just a few weeks ago Matias signed with Eddie Hearn as his promoter. So I guess it is much easier to make Haney-Matias now because they are in the same network and promotion. But honestly, I consider Pitbull as the weakest among the champions in the division although he is an improvement from the undeserving Rolly. Pitbull is giving up too much size and length and it will be a huge factor against the other champions who has the skills and also the power.

Same here, I thought Cruz is not the strongest among the champions, so I'm not confident he'll be able to win in a unification match.
Rolly is not even a great champion, so him losing to Cruz is not a surprise since per bookie line before the fight, Cruz was the heavy favorite.

According there https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/839135-tszyu-vs-thurman-rolando-rolly-romero-vs-isaac-pitbull-cruz
Cruz has 84% chance of winning, and they are right.

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 03, 2024, 12:13:57 AM

Honestly, I want Ryan to win against Haney. He's got a punchers chance but that's it. As Haney said earlier, maybe him and Ryan are on the same level when they were kids but there's a huge gap at them moment.

I'm glad that Haney were able to acknowledge that they were on the same level with Ryan before, that's good enough for me to take chances and bet on the underdog.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 02, 2024, 08:07:14 AM

If I remember correctly, the first names mentioned right after Pitbull's victory were the other champions, Teofimo, Haney and Matias. And Pitbull said that he wanted to fight them and unify the belts. Tank and Ryan's names will be of course mentioned later on by the media during the post-fight conference. But IMO, Cruz is going to demolish Ryan as well. Ryan and Rolly are popular which is why they can get title fights if they want but I don't think they are championship level. Haney will embarrass Ryan soon if the fight won't get cancelled.

I would say that a Matias first fight for Pitbull will be great. We know that Matias has power, but he lack movement and Cruz will take advantage of it. And as champion now, he has a lot of options, Teo might not willing though, as it is a great risk for him and maybe money is not there.

Agree one Ryan is not a good match for Pitbull as he will demolish. And we are not sure how Ryan can get back once Haney knock him out and embarrass him in their match. We are now in April and fight is getting closer and we do hope that Ryan by now is mentally prepared vs Devin Haney.

Pitbull against Matias for the IBF-WBA unification would be great. But just a few weeks ago Matias signed with Eddie Hearn as his promoter. So I guess it is much easier to make Haney-Matias now because they are in the same network and promotion. But honestly, I consider Pitbull as the weakest among the champions in the division although he is an improvement from the undeserving Rolly. Pitbull is giving up too much size and length and it will be a huge factor against the other champions who has the skills and also the power.

Honestly, I want Ryan to win against Haney. He's got a punchers chance but that's it. As Haney said earlier, maybe him and Ryan are on the same level when they were kids but there's a huge gap at them moment.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 02, 2024, 08:07:14 AM

If I remember correctly, the first names mentioned right after Pitbull's victory were the other champions, Teofimo, Haney and Matias. And Pitbull said that he wanted to fight them and unify the belts. Tank and Ryan's names will be of course mentioned later on by the media during the post-fight conference. But IMO, Cruz is going to demolish Ryan as well. Ryan and Rolly are popular which is why they can get title fights if they want but I don't think they are championship level. Haney will embarrass Ryan soon if the fight won't get cancelled.

I would say that a Matias first fight for Pitbull will be great. We know that Matias has power, but he lack movement and Cruz will take advantage of it. And as champion now, he has a lot of options, Teo might not willing though, as it is a great risk for him and maybe money is not there.

Agree one Ryan is not a good match for Pitbull as he will demolish. And we are not sure how Ryan can get back once Haney knock him out and embarrass him in their match. We are now in April and fight is getting closer and we do hope that Ryan by now is mentally prepared vs Devin Haney.

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