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February 28, 2024, 07:33:07 PM
#53
How time flies, we are now in the Kick-off conference, so much for Las Vegas venue, it's going to happen in NYC and Ryan has no problem with it.



So it's really on, we might here more trash talking, as Oscar said, "still" or a "new" champion in April 20th. Just a question on who wanted it more.

Haney said that this is personal now, specially if it involves religion. And then Bill Haney involves Floyd, as he claim that he Floyd shows the sparring session with Devin Haney and then they suspect that him and Floyd are giving him tips on how to beat Devin.

And as expected, Bill Haney and Ryan's dad, Henry Garcia is also doing the promotion.  Grin
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February 28, 2024, 05:31:31 PM
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If this is a done deal, meaning Ryan Garcia had sign the contract, then he can't just simply back out from the plans of his promoter and Haney's camp. That will be unprofessional for him. I'm just thinking that maybe he can squeeze more money if the fight is going to happen in Las Vegas.

If Ryan had signed the contract and back down, he might face some penalties for the damages done of him backing out.  I don't think Ryan would like to pay some penalties when he himself is looking for money after he lost his fortune on gambling (as the earlier reply stated).

I know that both Haney and Garcia are somewhat similar in height, but this is going to be a great fight for the WBC super lightweight title. Haney might have an advantage with the number of matches but the percentage of knockouts by Garcia is a lot more, IMO it can be with Garcia's advantage. We will never know until it happens.

Haney has the advantage, IMO, just look at their body mass after the rehydration, I do not think that the opponent KO ratio is definitive for the fight against Haney, Haney is a tough one to crack especially his defence and counterpunches.  If I am not mistaken, Ryan has this tendency to become reckless when pursuing a KO, and that might be the biggest disadvantage of Ryan Garcia in this fight.

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February 28, 2024, 05:10:06 PM
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I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley.  He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA.  I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something.  I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try.  This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need. 

I think if I'm not mistaken, O'Malley was the first one to call up Ryan or something to the effect that he can defeat a pro boxer. O'Malley is going on the route of Connor, running his mouth and trying to be the next face of MMA.

And with that, Ryan will not shy on that kind of trash talking in the media, he has been dub as a social media King Ry. But in any case, he has a difficult fight ahead of him in Haney. He needs to focus on this fight if he wanted to have his name in the discussions to be one of the great not just known to be in a social media boxer.

nothing yet is agreed for both to fight. if Dana permits, i guess it's cool to see another cross-fight like this. Dana already wasted his chance with Francis Ngannou, hope he will not miss it this time.

Ryan i think will have a higher rate of knocking out Suga than Haney. Omalley afaik likes to engage which is what Ryan likes doing in the middle. he will be unlucky once again if Sean gets him first just like Tank did. Ryan still has a fast hand and all it takes is just one hit to Suga.
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February 28, 2024, 05:01:07 PM
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I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley.  He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA.  I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something.  I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try.  This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need. 

I think if I'm not mistaken, O'Malley was the first one to call up Ryan or something to the effect that he can defeat a pro boxer. O'Malley is going on the route of Connor, running his mouth and trying to be the next face of MMA.

And with that, Ryan will not shy on that kind of trash talking in the media, he has been dub as a social media King Ry. But in any case, he has a difficult fight ahead of him in Haney. He needs to focus on this fight if he wanted to have his name in the discussions to be one of the great not just known to be in a social media boxer.
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February 27, 2024, 04:51:35 PM
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I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley.  He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA.  I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something.  I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try.  This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need. 
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February 24, 2024, 03:43:23 AM
#48
And with this, he is going to be troll by the fans of Haney as if he is like doesn't want to fight or afraid of facing Haney now. And I'm not sure why Ryan Garcia is talking about business when his job is to fight and bet the opponent in front of him. Let his promoter do their job, he says he wanted to fight the best Oscar gave him that opportunity for now and for sure there is big money in the table for him. So that is good enough for him and he should stop and just train very hard here because he is in for a tough night against Haney here. No need for Ryan to worry the venue, he will have his guaranteed purse for sure when he sign the contract to fight Haney.
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February 24, 2024, 02:54:59 AM
#47
Hi there OP, there is already a thread for this one created ahead of this so i think it's better to close this one and discuss matters pertaining to this fight in a single thread.

Thanks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63638382
This topic has already been closed.



I know that both Haney and Garcia are somewhat similar in height, but this is going to be a great fight for the WBC super lightweight title. Haney might have an advantage with the number of matches but the percentage of knockouts by Garcia is a lot more, IMO it can be with Garcia's advantage. We will never know until it happens.
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February 24, 2024, 02:49:26 AM
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If this is a done deal, meaning Ryan Garcia had sign the contract, then he can't just simply back out from the plans of his promoter and Haney's camp. That will be unprofessional for him. I'm just thinking that maybe he can squeeze more money if the fight is going to happen in Las Vegas.

But regardless of where the fight is going to happen, if he thinks he is a cash cow as proved by his fight against Tank Davis, then definitely he can do it against a dance partner like Haney. I think Devin can also bring his fans in the Barclays center and pay that live tickets.
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February 24, 2024, 01:55:08 AM
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Interesting development,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635

Ryan says that his fight should be in Vegas and obviously he is against the fight going into Barclays center. Hmm, I smell something here, does it mean that he is going to pull from the fight because the venue doesn't suit him the best?

But I do agree though, there is no tax in Vegas as far as I know and it's all about the gambling and the money that it can generate because of this said fight.
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February 23, 2024, 06:43:37 PM
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And we have a venue, I also thought that this will be in Las Vegas, but it's not, the fight is going to take place in Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

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However, on Wednesday night, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotions - who represent Garcia and so are staging the fight - announced that the Haney clash will instead take place in New York.

The 19,000 capacity Barclays Center, home to the Brooklyn Nets, will host the event.

https://talksport.com/sport/1760503/surprise-venue-devin-haney-ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-deleted/

Still a good venue and the sitting capacity is big and I wouldn't be surprised if this fight is sold out already and then the PPV numbers as well. Are we going to see a million PPV buys here? or least get close to the Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia with 1.1-1.2 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, the biggest fight last year, even bigger than Canelo fight or Crawford vs Spence.

Las Vegas though should be the home town of Ryan, he has been trainer or have been seen with Floyd. And we all know that Floyd resides in Vegas and so I think it will be beneficial for his fans from LA as it is very near proximity and they can just drove off to Vegas and see Ryan fight.

And speaking of Barclays center, it was the venue where Tank Davis fought Rolly Romero and they did this numbers.


https://twitter.com/NukeUndisputed/status/1760479596661625295

I think they can easily surpassed this numbers, that time Rolly is still relatively unknown and not a champion and yet it was a block buster fight. So what's more of Ryan with his huge following and Haney's belt on the line.
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February 23, 2024, 07:13:18 AM
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Ryan hasn’t been the same since his loss to Tank. He’s beefing with YouTubers, flirting with podcast hosts, trying to collect money for his Dad, and is reportedly nearly broke after becoming addicted to gambling and losing all his money. At the rate he’s spiraling downward, he may be destined to be a statistic. Just a few months ago he was one of the biggest rising stars in boxing…

What an unfortunate turn of events for Ryan's career. It was indeed a devastating loss he got against Davis. The problem was, he was not really a true champion, thus fighting against an elite fighter does exposed him in a very bad way.
If all these rumors we've heard about him were true, he'd definitely going to fall and a loss to Haney might be the start of the end of his career.
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February 23, 2024, 06:42:43 AM
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^^ If I'm not mistaken, Haney could have the advantage if the fight is going to be in Vegas. But regardless though, it could have been the capacity of the venue that why they move it to New York. And I think their fans are going to travel as Garcia's fanbase is LA. Seen some footage of Ryan Garcia in Twitter, fast hands, but it's just a matter on whether he can executed it against the defense of Haney. And at 140 lbs, both could be in the best shape of their lives as they will be no problems with weight management specially with Ryan as he had problems with 135 lbs when he fought Tank Davis. But against Duarte, we can see that his body is build like a natural jr. welterweight.
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February 22, 2024, 05:58:30 PM
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And we have a venue, I also thought that this will be in Las Vegas, but it's not, the fight is going to take place in Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

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However, on Wednesday night, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotions - who represent Garcia and so are staging the fight - announced that the Haney clash will instead take place in New York.

The 19,000 capacity Barclays Center, home to the Brooklyn Nets, will host the event.

https://talksport.com/sport/1760503/surprise-venue-devin-haney-ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-deleted/

Still a good venue and the sitting capacity is big and I wouldn't be surprised if this fight is sold out already and then the PPV numbers as well. Are we going to see a million PPV buys here? or least get close to the Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia with 1.1-1.2 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, the biggest fight last year, even bigger than Canelo fight or Crawford vs Spence.
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February 20, 2024, 11:11:25 AM
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Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.


If you're a fan of Ryan Garcia it is an insult, but if you're a bettor that's a fact, backed by stats, analysis, and past performance of both fighters, no doubt Ryan is a good boxer but on what level? In boxing, there's a level to this and it was proven in his fight against Gervonta that you don't give a fighter an A level who is making his first legit championship fight against a fighter who has over 10 championship fights, the discrepancies is pretty obvious.

In this match, Haney is the A-level here, in boxing or any contact sports there is a saying " To be a man you gonna beat the man" Haney did it twice against Kambosos where he wrestled the crown, and Lomachencko who is considered to be one of the pounds for pound great so Haney is considered the top favorite here.

For Ryan to claim that he is King Rye like what fans like to call him, he needs to convincingly beat Haney, which I doubt he can because his offense is pretty obvious, he sets up the jab so he can deliver the right hook, something that Haney can easily read.

And another thing, Garcia has never fought a fighter who can shift from a normal stance to an unorthodox one effectively, Haney may not be a knockout artist but he is one boxer who can make a good boxer like Ryan an ordinary boxer.
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February 20, 2024, 11:07:03 AM
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This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.
A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him
Haney is the huge favorite, we can't argue to that as the betting odds will prove it.

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.

Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.

this is where more people will lose when they are just looking forward to how much they will win betting for the underdog. yes they will make money if ryan wins but thats a big IF. we know ryan has the knockout punch but because he is fighting haney who will prefer to engage from a distance, ryan will just be chasing haney the whole time.

haney has had this habit since he became a champ. he wouldn't want someone like ryan will get the belt. with this kind of strategy, haney defeated loma and kamboso twice. and ryan not hitting haney will just frustrate him which he'd be careless along teh way.
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February 20, 2024, 10:47:47 AM
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This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.
A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him
Haney is the huge favorite, we can't argue to that as the betting odds will prove it.

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.

Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.
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February 20, 2024, 09:49:33 AM
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This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.
A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.
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February 20, 2024, 01:22:52 AM
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This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.
A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.
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February 19, 2024, 02:27:17 AM
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King Ry was using the philly shell tactic because we can be quite certain that he wanted to avoid the Tank Davis Tyson power punch to his jaw hehehe. He might need to use this tactic against Devin Haney, I reckon. According to someone he has fists of pillows. This is very funny.
Haney is a power puncher but not so aggressive, so he might not use it a lot of time as he is the one who is challenging the champion. And we know how good Haney in the ring, the only way for Garcia to beat him so he'll not lose in the scoring is to hurt him and eventually KO him, which no one has even done it yet.

Also, King Ry changed his trainer. We might witness a new style and use different tactics in the ring. I also wish this fight will be 12 rounds of action and end with a split decision.
That must be a great decision since he won his last fight, although it wasn't that impressive, he needs to improve, train harder since he's up against one of the best fighters in the world, the best in his division now. Garcia for KO, I think I'm gonna risk on that.
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February 19, 2024, 02:25:47 AM
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There is no Devin Haney versus Gervonta Davis. There is no Ryan Garcia versus Jose Ramirez. Because Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia bargained a deal for an April 20 match in Las Vegas. This is not the match fans are expecting but this is a great challenge for Ryan Garcia. A fighter that knocks opponents and the other is a defense technician.


Reported from https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/2/9/24067330/devin-haney-vs-ryan-garcia-deal-reportedly-done-april-20-boxing-news-2024
This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.
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