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Quote from: mirakal on April 22, 2024, 11:07:09 AM

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There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

So he can say that publicly, like it's allowed in the boxing industry that a boxer will beat on himself to win? Because if that's in NBA, he would have been punished a lifetime ban, honestly, I'm curious because I don't know the rules, but isn't it ethical? Because someone could also bet agaisnt himself and cash huge money, I think it's easier than trying to win.

Ryan is fully aware of this but since it's not in Nevada but in New York City, it remains to be seen if there are legal repercussions based on the article I provided so we will hear more of this in the coming months.

People are divided on this it is illegal and may lead to game-fixing going back to the fight many people are happy that Ryan wins the fight but some people hate for not following what the fight should be.

Jorge Masvidal calls him the greatest troll because he misled all of us, even Devin Haney's father believes that it was just all Ryan's act, maybe it has something to do with Ryan's ADHD as he claimed to have it.

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 22, 2024, 07:55:39 AM

There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

So he can say that publicly, like it's allowed in the boxing industry that a boxer will beat on himself to win? Because if that's in NBA, he would have been punished a lifetime ban, honestly, I'm curious because I don't know the rules, but isn't it ethical? Because someone could also bet agaisnt himself and cash huge money, I think it's easier than trying to win.

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There's a report about Ryan Garcia cashing out $12M after betting on himself to beat Devin Haney, Ryan is a huge underdog in this fight nobody believes that he will beat much more mauled and knockdown Haney 3 times.

No wonder he is ecstatic about his win because he is getting huge money, although he owed Haney $1.6 million but that's nothing to what Ryan will get.

This is one big act of the internet's greatest troll, he makes people believe that he is crazy and out of control but it's an act so he can bet on himself so he can win huge, unfortunately, many people also lose a lot of money because of the idea that there's no way Ryan can beat Haney.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-this-literally-illegal-fans-react-ryan-garcia-reportedly-cashing-12m-betting-beat-devin-haney

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 22, 2024, 04:28:09 AM

Quote from: Yogee on April 21, 2024, 06:11:00 PM

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I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

There is no agreement needed because it should be automatically declared vacant as a general rule in boxing. Another disgraceful decision by the corrupt WBC. It is too unfair to the other fighters that worked hard to improve their ratings for a chance of getting a title fight. The WBC can just tell both Garcia and Haney to rematch for the vacant belt.

Although it seems like Ryan is not interested at 140 anymore. At the moment, it is Sandor Martin that is ranked 1st in the WBC ranking and he can fight Haney for the vacant belt if Ryan won't drop to 140.

Probably it will be good for Haney will fight Sandor Martin, or at least if Martin is the mandatory, then I will say that it could be an easy fight for him. At least it's less risk and most likely a fight that he will get his confidence back after humbling lost he got from Ryan Garcia.

For Ryan he could go as high as 147 lbs if he can't make 140 lbs. And his height is about that weight class, at 5'9. But he mentioned Fundora at 154 lbs and maybe a catch weight as Oscar says. And it also ends the debate on us or someone comparing Floyd and Devin Haney.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on April 22, 2024, 05:32:57 AM

I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook Cheesy

That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Cheesy

Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass. Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

And on the other hand, entering round 12, you will hear Derrick James advising Ryan not to do anything stupid or something on that line because they know they have won the fight except for that one judges who ruin a UD for Ryan and instead score in a draw.

The execution of Ryan's left hook is very quick, hard to see and that's why Haney even though he is known to have a good defense, wasn't able to see the punch coming in and that's why 3 knockdown for Ryan easy and then the power behind it. Not be like Nonito or Roy Jones left hook, but it's crisp and hard to see.

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Quote from: serjent05 on April 21, 2024, 07:48:36 PM

It is possible with a score card like this

and have Devin won the last round but I think this score card is biased... the other two judges score cards prove that the one giving a draw is really favoring Haney.

The DAZN broadcasters are terrible. They always act like cheerleaders for Matchroom fighters and also Canelo. Chris Mannix probably filled his scorecard before the fight even started. He needs Eddie Hearn to keep coming on his podcast, that’s why he always exaggerates how good AJ, Haney and Berlanga are.

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I like how Devin and his father were talking all the time, that Ryan has got only left hook in his arsenal and that is it. 1 minute of round almost has ended, and Ryan shook Devin with that left hook Cheesy

That is just lol. If Devin knew about that one and only left hood, then why Ryan connected it so clearly Cheesy

Round 7 - same thing landed Devin ass on canvass. Round 10, same left hook. Round 11 - again left.

The only one I feel sorry for was Bill Haney. Watching your kid losing, getting beating and you are not able to give him an advice that Devin waited so much every time when was in the corner is hard.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on April 22, 2024, 04:52:04 AM

Not the biggest upset, but a proof that a lot of things in boxing is rigged. Starting from that judge who gave draw in this fight, and ending with Haney vs Lomachenko fight for example. That fight can not be UD, it was more close than Haney Garcia. What we have in the end, Instagram boy beat champion. lol Cheesy

What about "I will never lose to a white boy in my life" now ?

Justice has triumphed. I will celebrate that win together with Ryan.

I saw that image and found it funny, I didn't even see some officials trying to stop him. But that adds flavor to the match so there will be hype and that has made their match make a noise globally.

Find some clips about when Haney was talking to the press during their press conference, on the other side of the mic. There goes Garcia playing some of our ole' favorite Coco Melon songs.

The world just saw what kind of a joke Haney is. We'll see some rematch. That's such a waste of time for Garcia, everyone will just move on but will remember this match forever.

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Quote from: Eternad on April 21, 2024, 09:21:25 AM

Biggest upset of all time. No one will ever think that a boxer that came back from hiatus due to mental problem issue can dominate and give a humiliation to an active top boxer on his division.

Not the biggest upset, but a proof that a lot of things in boxing is rigged. Starting from that judge who gave draw in this fight, and ending with Haney vs Lomachenko fight for example. That fight can not be UD, it was more close than Haney Garcia. What we have in the end, Instagram boy beat champion. lol Cheesy

What about "I will never lose to a white boy in my life" now ?

Justice has triumphed. I will celebrate that win together with Ryan.

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Quote from: Yogee on April 21, 2024, 06:11:00 PM

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I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

There is no agreement needed because it should be automatically declared vacant as a general rule in boxing. Another disgraceful decision by the corrupt WBC. It is too unfair to the other fighters that worked hard to improve their ratings for a chance of getting a title fight. The WBC can just tell both Garcia and Haney to rematch for the vacant belt.

Although it seems like Ryan is not interested at 140 anymore. At the moment, it is Sandor Martin that is ranked 1st in the WBC ranking and he can fight Haney for the vacant belt if Ryan won't drop to 140.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on April 21, 2024, 01:48:14 PM

It's hard for Haney to become better than Mayweather because he lacks the power. Mayweather was a knockout artist during his younger years as a champion. Haney has zero knockouts and stoppages when he became a world champion. It's just difficult for light punchers to keep climbing weights because opponents are getting bigger and they can risk of getting hit just to land their own power shots.

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

I agree, Floyd at 135 lbs was very different, start of the prime years of Mayweather, who wouldn't forget how he destroys Chico Corrales (RIP). And at 140 lbs, Haney still has no chin and with the power Ryan had at this weight, Haney can't handle it. The style though of Haney might have been pattern after Floyd, but then again, Floyd is way ahead of his time. Oscar says in the post-fight that Garcia can fight at catch-weights, as it seems the question is about him and Tank for a rematch. Garcia is really intelligent if he targets Fundora because I think he is the "weakest" of the Super Welterweight champion. I disagree though of what Derrick James says on Haney, that he can't return because of how Garcia beat him. Haney have learn a lot of lessons here and for sure he can box again and before he forget there is no belt on the line as Ryan come in overweight.

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Quote from: Questat on April 22, 2024, 02:01:38 AM

Looks like Haney forget to paid all the judges, he might have underestimated Ryan so much thinking he can win by just scoring, but turns out, it was the other way around as Ryan was quicker in that fight and obviously has more popular in his punches. I like that Ryan after losing to Tank Davis are now more aggressive in talking big fights, I hope other champions will be able to follow him to give the boxing community a real entertainment.

So now, the superstar in boxing, or one of the superstars, his name is King Ry, more exciting fight ahead, he got our attention now.

He's already popular even before not until on his first loss against Davis, though on his current win for sure there will be hyped again.
Ryan did a great job despite of fighting not just with Haney but also with the officials, too bad for Haney for being too confident and forget how to improve his punching skills as he was going to fight a more aggressive boxer and more eager to win back. Well, money will always talk so for sure Haney is still a big winner here.

Indeed, however that time after his loss to Tank people does not believe in him anymore that he can beat a champion. He just continue to be popular because he always wanted to gain some attention in his social media accounts, and now that he proved that he is a real deal, for sure he will get the respect from the boxers that would challenge him or he'll challenge in the future including Tank Davis if he'll decide to go down again.

This is a good year for him, first fight in 2024, I'm sure he can still at least make one fight this year.

Do you think who would that be?

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Quote from: Questat on April 22, 2024, 02:01:38 AM

Looks like Haney forget to paid all the judges, he might have underestimated Ryan so much thinking he can win by just scoring, but turns out, it was the other way around as Ryan was quicker in that fight and obviously has more popular in his punches. I like that Ryan after losing to Tank Davis are now more aggressive in talking big fights, I hope other champions will be able to follow him to give the boxing community a real entertainment.

So now, the superstar in boxing, or one of the superstars, his name is King Ry, more exciting fight ahead, he got our attention now.

He's already popular even before not until on his first loss against Davis, though on his current win for sure there will be hyped again.
Ryan did a great job despite of fighting not just with Haney but also with the officials, too bad for Haney for being too confident and forget how to improve his punching skills as he was going to fight a more aggressive boxer and more eager to win back. Well, money will always talk so for sure Haney is still a big winner here.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 22, 2024, 01:48:21 AM

Quote from: aioc on April 21, 2024, 09:02:06 AM

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

It's the humiliation that comes after, and we have been played by Ryan Garcia, uses his mental issues and whatever tweets and act he does in the public, come in over weight in the fight and then nobody give him a chance to win. But that left hook is very effective and the moment in land in the very 1st round, it's over. Well deserved win by Garcia and he is on the top of the world now. Oscar Dela Hoya was very happy and animated in the post fight interview, Haney though didn't show up and perhaps was really hurt. You can see his face after the face and he hadn't had the experience of going down 3x in a fight and even embracing Ryan for dear life. So let's see if Haney can recover from this devastating lost, he is still the champion. Ryan though he said that he dreams of fighting Sebastian Fundora, who recently beaten Tim Tszyu. So this is at 154 lbs obviously. Oscar though quick to say that Ryan now is a superstar and he is going to be the A-side in negotiations unlike in the Davis fight wherein he gave up a lot like the weight and rehydration clause.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 21, 2024, 09:36:34 PM

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Quote from: cabron on April 21, 2024, 11:34:45 AM

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

The name of the judge is De Luka he is a veteran judge but on this one, he made a miscalculation, I hope in the future there will be a mandatory explanation of judges who made questionable decision

Well, what everybody hopes is that he'll never get to judge another fight. He is a veteran just like what you said, that was not a miscalculations, that was done on purpose, he is bought or a puppet of someone, he stand his ground on what his master told him to do so. You can't miscalculate a one sided fight with 3 times knock down against an opponent. He's actually one of the reason why the boxing industry is becoming more and more of a business than an actual sport. Sports fan in general hates things like these.
Also the ref who tried to save Haney to help him recover after those knock downs.

Looks like Haney forget to paid all the judges, he might have underestimated Ryan so much thinking he can win by just scoring, but turns out, it was the other way around as Ryan was quicker in that fight and obviously has more popular in his punches. I like that Ryan after losing to Tank Davis are now more aggressive in talking big fights, I hope other champions will be able to follow him to give the boxing community a real entertainment.

So now, the superstar in boxing, or one of the superstars, his name is King Ry, more exciting fight ahead, he got our attention now.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 22, 2024, 01:48:21 AM

Quote from: aioc on April 21, 2024, 09:02:06 AM

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

Nah he's fine man. haha...Give him a chance, he was smart to still have this belt because that wasn't a championship fight, but his undefeated record is one. I think Ryan should talk trash on him again so he can get a rematch and will have an easy win. Also, I'm wondering if how aggressive the champions now for trying to lure Haney to a fight in a unification fight. That was a big loss by Haney, for sure his confidence was shaken big time and his possible opponets might have boosted their confident seeing the result.

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Quote from: aioc on April 21, 2024, 09:02:06 AM

He humiliated Haney, who was considered to be the pound-for-pound champion, everyone was taken for a ride, and Haney kept saying that he shut down Garcia and retired him, but it ended Haney is the one that got shut down.
The score 112 - 112 is not right, it's good that the other two judges made the right decision because everyone who watched the fight knew that Garcia beat Haney, not only beat him but mauled him and humiliated him.

Devin Haney has woken up from a good rest and he is still a champion. However, he will look on the mirror and this will be his face.

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Quote from: cabron on April 21, 2024, 11:34:45 AM

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

The name of the judge is De Luka he is a veteran judge but on this one, he made a miscalculation, I hope in the future there will be a mandatory explanation of judges who made questionable decision

Well, what everybody hopes is that he'll never get to judge another fight. He is a veteran just like what you said, that was not a miscalculations, that was done on purpose, he is bought or a puppet of someone, he stand his ground on what his master told him to do so. You can't miscalculate a one sided fight with 3 times knock down against an opponent. He's actually one of the reason why the boxing industry is becoming more and more of a business than an actual sport. Sports fan in general hates things like these.
Also the ref who tried to save Haney to help him recover after those knock downs.

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Quote from: cabron on April 21, 2024, 11:34:45 AM

That judge also is something. No one in their right mind, even a grader with limited knowledge wouldn't score a draw for this fight.

It is possible with a score card like this

and have Devin won the last round but I think this score card is biased... the other two judges score cards prove that the one giving a draw is really favoring Haney.

Quote from: cabron on April 21, 2024, 11:34:45 AM

One can say Ryan learned some tricks after losing against Tank. It's a bit dirty but still the rules of boxing are not so perfect after all. Floyd is using the same technique though. The kid is just 25 and a millionaire, he surely can find someone who can open his eyes to see the industry where he belongs isn't friendly when he loses a fight.

I agree, Ryan had learned a lot from his encounter with Tank Davis. Ryan Garcia's performance surprised me and I really can't believe that he is able to penetrate the defense of Haney. After this fight, I believe Ryan Garcia gained much respect from the viewers.

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Quote from: Yogee on April 21, 2024, 06:11:00 PM

Congratulations to those who made bank in this fight. Those who bet on Garcia by KO or TKO should have more if not for the third man in the ring hehe.

Quote from: inthelongrun on April 21, 2024, 01:48:14 PM

Ryan while being over 3 pounds overweight was battling not just Haney but also the referee, the judge and there's also corrupt WBC not following the tradition of vacating the belt.

I usually give them the benefit of the doubt since their job is not that easy but this one seems obvious. The first knockdown should have ended the fight but the ref has other plans.
I thought the agreement after the missed weight cut was the title to be vacated if Haney lost?

That's too obvious and the world knows it, and if Garcia lose via decision I'm sure it will be their biggest mistake to decide.
Garcia obviously won every round and yes, that first knocked out should be the last for the match, well It's Garcia versus the whole team. Cheesy

I was able to place a small bet and won some, it was an easy decision for me because I know Haney can't match the power of Garcia, looking forward for the next fight or even a rematch.

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