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Quote from: suchmoon on September 16, 2014, 11:48:04 PM

It's funny how perceptions change when the trust is lost. For all we know the bankroll growth to 900 BTC could be half-fake too, perhaps to lure in new investors while showing "recovering luck" from the -300 BTC house loss. At least that was my first thought. One thing for sure, the owners are not showing any effort towards transparency.

Couldn't have said it better. whoever re-invests in this site is just plain stupid and is asking for it. I think the site was using fake numbers with the investments to lure investors before the scam too. The BTC added up too quick and easily.

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It's funny how perceptions change when the trust is lost. For all we know the bankroll growth to 900 BTC could be half-fake too, perhaps to lure in new investors while showing "recovering luck" from the -300 BTC house loss. At least that was my first thought. One thing for sure, the owners are not showing any effort towards transparency.

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why kill the goose when you can squeeze it for its milk.

or did i get that wrong. why kill the cow when you can grab it's golden eggs.

uggs. i think you get my point.

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Quote from: NLNico on September 16, 2014, 11:37:09 PM

I definitely don't want to defend them, but if the expected profit is 7 BTC and the real profit is 34 BTC that can be very easily variance too Wink

Sure it is possible that this is variance, however given their history of cheating, and the circumstances regarding "mateo's" winnings I would not give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also I would consider this to be a very high level of variance, especially considering that I do not see a lot of large bets when I watch the bet ticker on their site. A larger number of smaller bets is likely to have less variance then a lessor number of larger bets.

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I definitely don't want to defend them, but if the expected profit is 7 BTC and the real profit is 34 BTC that can be very easily variance too Wink

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Quote from: dooglus on September 16, 2014, 08:41:23 PM

Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:08:39 PM

It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.

I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.

It's been a week since "Mateo" stopped playing. Since then, the site appears to have won 34 BTC from players.

That's better than most sites make in a week.

Quote from: dooglus on September 16, 2014, 07:48:54 PM

They used to get over 1000 BTC wagered per day regularly. Now they're lucky if they get 100 BTC wagered per day:

I don't think these numbers add up. If they get 100 BTC wagered per day that works out to 700 BTC per week which would have an expected value of ~7 BTC in site profits. 34 BTC is almost 5 times this. Either their players are extremely unlucky or they are still cheating.

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So it appears manl and gerry still refuse to pay out winning bets on their ~~gambling~~ site.

Still no chatbox? Cant verify those endless .5 or 1 BTC bets for hours on end?

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I wish JD and DD were still up. Tongue

Those sites ran without a flaw

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Quote from: dooglus on September 16, 2014, 08:41:23 PM

Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:08:39 PM

It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.

I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.

It's been a week since "Mateo" stopped playing. Since then, the site appears to have won 34 BTC from players.

That's better than most sites make in a week.

Do you think they are still cheating their investors? It would obviously very difficult to tell since they have disabled checking of other users' bets.

I think one explanation of this would be that they decided to "roll back" some portion of Mateo's bets after they figured out that something was wrong and was able to pinpoint the problem.

Other then that it would mean that their customers have bet ~3,400 BTC in the last week.

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Quote from: Valzador on September 16, 2014, 08:56:00 PM

Why does the site withdraw with no feeeeeeees.......

Cry

It withdraws without fees when fees aren't required according to the current version of the bitcoin core client.

It seems that some mining pools are using older, stricted versions of bitcoind, and so think that a fee is required when it isn't, resulting in confirmation being delayed.

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Why does the site withdraw with no feeeeeeees.......

Cry

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Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:08:39 PM

It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.

I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.

It's been a week since "Mateo" stopped playing. Since then, the site appears to have won 34 BTC from players.

That's better than most sites make in a week.

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It appears that they are somehow getting more people to invest in their bankroll. They had mentioned they would seek private funding for their bankroll in one of their last threads.

I would be curious to see if they ever get any kind of meaningful business again.

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Quote from: Valzador on September 16, 2014, 07:24:22 PM

Am I the only one who gambles at Dicebitco.in now?

They used to get over 1000 BTC wagered per day regularly. Now they're lucky if they get 100 BTC wagered per day:

Tue Sep 2 09:01:14 PDT 2014 profit: 57.14303938 invested: 5,830.01221065 wagered: 26,453.2552 bets: 32,462,566
Wed Sep 3 07:10:14 PDT 2014 profit: 97.51547298 invested: 5,835.37166989 wagered: 28,513.0451 bets: 33,624,899
Thu Sep 4 08:09:48 PDT 2014 profit: 106.72483399 invested: 6,314.60683720 wagered: 29,843.2017 bets: 35,446,198
Fri Sep 5 08:46:27 PDT 2014 profit: 175.91141188 invested: 7,238.62508975 wagered: 30,959.2017 bets: 37,501,964
Sat Sep 6 10:11:26 PDT 2014 profit: 201.62990662 invested: 7,381.69733455 wagered: 31,810.6743 bets: 39,692,223
Sun Sep 7 07:40:03 PDT 2014 profit: 259.22495458 invested: 7,108.09065012 wagered: 32,159.8734 bets: 41,190,494
Sun Sep 7 17:46:25 PDT 2014 profit: 161.16300354 invested: 1,704.91132568 wagered: 32,993.4733 bets: 41,781,550
Mon Sep 8 08:10:55 PDT 2014 profit: -205.78715499 invested: 704.96789890 wagered: 85,453.6730 bets: 42,516,227
Mon Sep 8 08:31:25 PDT 2014 profit: -316.11279075 invested: 704.96789890 wagered: 89,743.0994 bets: 42,543,239 BANK: 99.71907091
Mon Sep 8 10:01:14 PDT 2014 profit: -327.07568425 invested: 1,178.45375026 wagered: 90,949.9923 bets: 42,631,645 BANK: 562.24230998
Tue Sep 9 09:18:10 PDT 2014 profit: -329.35365206 invested: 1,132.50293979 wagered: 91,298.6454 bets: 43,526,552 BANK: 514.02009646
Wed Sep 10 20:57:14 PDT 2014 profit: -315.90377541 invested: 1,130.67616779 wagered: 91,741.0462 bets: 44,641,341 BANK: 525.63070559
Thu Sep 11 10:17:14 PDT 2014 profit: -317.17418051 invested: 1,130.64611884 wagered: 91,764.8918 bets: 44,795,601 BANK: 524.29955187
Fri Sep 12 10:10:04 PDT 2014 profit: -319.33467781 invested: 1,127.26238508 wagered: 91,845.4572 bets: 45,753,572 BANK: 518.78566018
Sat Sep 13 08:06:52 PDT 2014 profit: -306.98197776 invested: 1,206.39725636 wagered: 91,988.8721 bets: 47,369,478 BANK: 610.23857176
Sun Sep 14 09:45:14 PDT 2014 profit: -304.79770840 invested: 1,392.26246817 wagered: 92,024.3805 bets: 48,245,730 BANK: 798.28693218
Mon Sep 15 08:29:49 PDT 2014 profit: -301.53743477 invested: 1,462.05982531 wagered: 92,082.7456 bets: 49,059,362 BANK: 871.33805324
Tue Sep 16 11:38:01 PDT 2014 profit: -295.79031602 invested: 1,508.38149462 wagered: 92,153.4729 bets: 50,319,276 BANK: 923.40560018

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Am I the only one who gambles at Dicebitco.in now?

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Quote from: Cluster2k on September 15, 2014, 09:11:13 AM

Well, looks like DB is still running and investment is slowly rising and profit growing. All appears to be good and stable. I just hope some freakishly lucky player doesn't suddenly show up out of nowhere and take a few hundred bitcoins from investors when the bankroll becomes more healthy.

We have different definitions of "good." I'll grant you stable though, but stability is but a mirage. Things were stable last time too, right up until someone discovered winning nonces were being skipped.

As long as people play there though, Manl won't have to come answer for anything that's happened. It's clear at this point he wants to continue running the site. As long as people go there to play, he's getting what he wants, so there's no need to answer any of our questions.

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Well, looks like DB is still running and investment is slowly rising and profit growing. All appears to be good and stable. I just hope some freakishly lucky player doesn't suddenly show up out of nowhere and take a few hundred bitcoins from investors when the bankroll becomes more healthy.

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He allowed 7,000BTC in investments to be returned...he won't take investments but he'll keep his bug active and probably rob the bank with another alt like he did before.
Whether his bug is still working or not I have no idea, HE DID however take that whole 300+BTC from the bank to rob investors...
I know I won't use this site as tempting as it is since there aren't many like it...hopefully he comes back and he gives peoples money back

Hope you got what you wish.

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Quote from: Daanie on September 15, 2014, 03:19:12 AM

Quote from: xilatleo on September 14, 2014, 07:33:46 PM

And now people is coming back and invest in it Shocked

And you're stupid enough to believe that's the case. Either those numbers are fake or the siteowner himself invested to deceive you again.

I don't think so, he hasn't touched bitcointalk in weeks and i just put in .1btc and cashed .15btc soon after

does anyone know if the nonce problem is fixed though?

For the record he still owes me 2.34BTC

Well, that's what you think. If you're going to get scammed again you deserve it I guess. I would never invest in a site again that made my investment dissappear in such "magical" way. He can let you invest divest for now, so his site gains trust, until the next moment he comes and takes your btc

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Quote from: xilatleo on September 14, 2014, 07:33:46 PM

And now people is coming back and invest in it Shocked

it is unbelievable.. why to invest in this site come on Huh

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