It seems like dicebitco.in is lying to me 
Shocking !
Topic: DiceBitco.in - New Thread to Discuss (Read 20704 times)
Shocking !
It seems like dicebitco.in is lying to me
Anyone experiencing any troubles? Leave a brief overview in here!
It just very sad to see Dicebitcoin go down this way.
Welcome to dicebitco.in !
Our staff will take care of you !!
Our staff will take care of you !!
Manl is the one holding the red flag.
Welcome to dicebitco.in !
Our staff will take care of you !!
Our staff will take care of you !!
Looks like the profit was given a nice bump up. Shame everyone has lost trust in the site.
I don't know what any of that tells us, other than that the coins Mateo just lost seem to have been withdrawn from DB and redeposited without being used for anything in between.
Edit: I should point out that each of these transactions is a child of the one before it; they form a chain. Each (other than the first) has just one input, so you can follow the chain back from the last to the first.
The fact that the entire withdraw was untouched and sent back in its entirety should be a flag imho.
Flag for what? That he won 600 last time, withdrew them and then redeposited later on and lost it? :-) I don't want to defend them, they fucked up a lot of things, but some conspiracy theories are really funny.
What I mean is he went through the trouble to withdraw to 3 separate addresses, but then on a whim he decides to send it all back in 1 tx.
I don't know what any of that tells us, other than that the coins Mateo just lost seem to have been withdrawn from DB and redeposited without being used for anything in between.
Edit: I should point out that each of these transactions is a child of the one before it; they form a chain. Each (other than the first) has just one input, so you can follow the chain back from the last to the first.
The fact that the entire withdraw was untouched and sent back in its entirety should be a flag imho.
Flag for what? That he won 600 last time, withdrew them and then redeposited later on and lost it? :-) I don't want to defend them, they fucked up a lot of things, but some conspiracy theories are really funny.
I don't know what any of that tells us, other than that the coins Mateo just lost seem to have been withdrawn from DB and redeposited without being used for anything in between.
Edit: I should point out that each of these transactions is a child of the one before it; they form a chain. Each (other than the first) has just one input, so you can follow the chain back from the last to the first.
The fact that the entire withdraw was untouched and sent back in its entirety should be a flag imho.
This site has more red flags than Tiananmen Square
I don't know what any of that tells us, other than that the coins Mateo just lost seem to have been withdrawn from DB and redeposited without being used for anything in between.
Edit: I should point out that each of these transactions is a child of the one before it; they form a chain. Each (other than the first) has just one input, so you can follow the chain back from the last to the first.
The fact that the entire withdraw was untouched and sent back in its entirety should be a flag imho.
Manl's silence is the most damning thing about all of this at this point. Twitter account is untouched, no presence here, no chatbox on the dice site. If you were trying to promote and grow your business, wouldn't you feel the need to be promoting your brand and maintaining a presence for the sake of showing transparency and honesty? How can you hope to run a trustworthy business with zero presence or communication?
As for the people investing right now, I can only imagine two camps: 1) Someone who newly discovers the site, has no information about its past and says "I have no idea who runs this or what they're intentions are, but it looks like a great place to put thousands of dollars!" 2) People who have been following this saga and take all Manl's silence and refusal to answer questions, along with the appearance of the site running normally, to mean this is a good place to invest, all history and unlikely explanation for the nonce skipping be damned.
In either case, you're a fool.
Without Manl answering questions, no one should be investing there. Sure, if he posts here, he'll have a ton of stuff to answer for, and people will tear him apart and question every explanation he gives. But that's what you get after your site was found purposefully rigged! People who are investing there right now are basically saying, "Hey, I know your site stole money from people by intentionally not paying out winning bets, but by disappearing and refusing to answer questions and running the site silently from the shadows, that made everything OK!"
Please stop and consider the trustworthiness of this site operator before you send your coins back there.
As for the people investing right now, I can only imagine two camps: 1) Someone who newly discovers the site, has no information about its past and says "I have no idea who runs this or what they're intentions are, but it looks like a great place to put thousands of dollars!" 2) People who have been following this saga and take all Manl's silence and refusal to answer questions, along with the appearance of the site running normally, to mean this is a good place to invest, all history and unlikely explanation for the nonce skipping be damned.
In either case, you're a fool.
Without Manl answering questions, no one should be investing there. Sure, if he posts here, he'll have a ton of stuff to answer for, and people will tear him apart and question every explanation he gives. But that's what you get after your site was found purposefully rigged! People who are investing there right now are basically saying, "Hey, I know your site stole money from people by intentionally not paying out winning bets, but by disappearing and refusing to answer questions and running the site silently from the shadows, that made everything OK!"
Please stop and consider the trustworthiness of this site operator before you send your coins back there.
It's was very risky investment, but it has paid out for me :-) I expected Mateo to come back and lose, so I put some small amount of coins there and it actually happened. But I don't see it as a viable investment into the future because of Manl's silence and drop in daily bet amounts. They don't maintain good relationships with players which should be their top priority. I wouldn't be surprised if Mateo was screwed the same way last night as the other players before him.
Manl's silence is the most damning thing about all of this at this point. Twitter account is untouched, no presence here, no chatbox on the dice site. If you were trying to promote and grow your business, wouldn't you feel the need to be promoting your brand and maintaining a presence for the sake of showing transparency and honesty? How can you hope to run a trustworthy business with zero presence or communication?
As for the people investing right now, I can only imagine two camps: 1) Someone who newly discovers the site, has no information about its past and says "I have no idea who runs this or what they're intentions are, but it looks like a great place to put thousands of dollars!" 2) People who have been following this saga and take all Manl's silence and refusal to answer questions, along with the appearance of the site running normally, to mean this is a good place to invest, all history and unlikely explanation for the nonce skipping be damned.
In either case, you're a fool.
Without Manl answering questions, no one should be investing there. Sure, if he posts here, he'll have a ton of stuff to answer for, and people will tear him apart and question every explanation he gives. But that's what you get after your site was found purposefully rigged! People who are investing there right now are basically saying, "Hey, I know your site stole money from people by intentionally not paying out winning bets, but by disappearing and refusing to answer questions and running the site silently from the shadows, that made everything OK!"
Please stop and consider the trustworthiness of this site operator before you send your coins back there.
As for the people investing right now, I can only imagine two camps: 1) Someone who newly discovers the site, has no information about its past and says "I have no idea who runs this or what they're intentions are, but it looks like a great place to put thousands of dollars!" 2) People who have been following this saga and take all Manl's silence and refusal to answer questions, along with the appearance of the site running normally, to mean this is a good place to invest, all history and unlikely explanation for the nonce skipping be damned.
In either case, you're a fool.
Without Manl answering questions, no one should be investing there. Sure, if he posts here, he'll have a ton of stuff to answer for, and people will tear him apart and question every explanation he gives. But that's what you get after your site was found purposefully rigged! People who are investing there right now are basically saying, "Hey, I know your site stole money from people by intentionally not paying out winning bets, but by disappearing and refusing to answer questions and running the site silently from the shadows, that made everything OK!"
Please stop and consider the trustworthiness of this site operator before you send your coins back there.
9001% agreed. Could not have said it any better than that.
Manl's silence is the most damning thing about all of this at this point. Twitter account is untouched, no presence here, no chatbox on the dice site. If you were trying to promote and grow your business, wouldn't you feel the need to be promoting your brand and maintaining a presence for the sake of showing transparency and honesty? How can you hope to run a trustworthy business with zero presence or communication?
As for the people investing right now, I can only imagine two camps: 1) Someone who newly discovers the site, has no information about its past and says "I have no idea who runs this or what they're intentions are, but it looks like a great place to put thousands of dollars!" 2) People who have been following this saga and take all Manl's silence and refusal to answer questions, along with the appearance of the site running normally, to mean this is a good place to invest, all history and unlikely explanation for the nonce skipping be damned.
In either case, you're a fool.
Without Manl answering questions, no one should be investing there. Sure, if he posts here, he'll have a ton of stuff to answer for, and people will tear him apart and question every explanation he gives. But that's what you get after your site was found purposefully rigged! People who are investing there right now are basically saying, "Hey, I know your site stole money from people by intentionally not paying out winning bets, but by disappearing and refusing to answer questions and running the site silently from the shadows, that made everything OK!"
Please stop and consider the trustworthiness of this site operator before you send your coins back there.
As for the people investing right now, I can only imagine two camps: 1) Someone who newly discovers the site, has no information about its past and says "I have no idea who runs this or what they're intentions are, but it looks like a great place to put thousands of dollars!" 2) People who have been following this saga and take all Manl's silence and refusal to answer questions, along with the appearance of the site running normally, to mean this is a good place to invest, all history and unlikely explanation for the nonce skipping be damned.
In either case, you're a fool.
Without Manl answering questions, no one should be investing there. Sure, if he posts here, he'll have a ton of stuff to answer for, and people will tear him apart and question every explanation he gives. But that's what you get after your site was found purposefully rigged! People who are investing there right now are basically saying, "Hey, I know your site stole money from people by intentionally not paying out winning bets, but by disappearing and refusing to answer questions and running the site silently from the shadows, that made everything OK!"
Please stop and consider the trustworthiness of this site operator before you send your coins back there.
I invested 0.1 and they are gone 
But awesome thing is that site up in profit again
But awesome thing is that site up in profit again
+ 300 BTC site profit
Why your invested 0.1 gone ?
although the site gain a profit
Can the investors still withdraw their bitcoins?
Anyone who tried, can you please confirm?
Anyone who tried, can you please confirm?
I just divested and withdrew without any problem. But I had only 3 BTC there which multiplied to 4 BTC overnight (I've been divested during the run for some time so could have been more). Cold wallet has enough funds for DiceBitco.in to be solvent, however the lack of open communication from the site owner is putting me off.
I invested 0.1 and they are gone
But awesome thing is that site up in profit again
But awesome thing is that site up in profit again
4) Total output of 600 BTC deposit, was 650 BTC, 50 BTC went to 122pzTq7wM3MuyohY8DGi1QNjFashzpdgS. How is that supposed to work within the depo/wd system of DB?
You saw pretty much exactly the same as I did.
Notice the timestamps I show - I wonder why there's such a long pause before the last 4 transactions, then one happens per second. The delay wasn't waiting for coins from the cold wallet, because they were moved online 24 hours previously. Can we draw the conclusion that the last 4 were all Mateo, and that he still has 347 BTC from the 3rd withdrawal? Or were withdrawals just being queued for some other reason (maybe the site owners were investigating the whale's amazing luck, say) and someone else happened to get into the queue between Mateo's withdrawal requests.
As for your 4th point, that seems pretty normal. When you see the hot wallet has 600 more coins than you are comfortable keeping online, you send them offline. The client picks the 650 output, and makes change of 50 BTC. The address where the 50 BTC went was previously unused, which is consistent with bitcoin core's use of change addresses - it uses a new address each time it makes change.
They said they planned on trying to get private investors to invest in their site. If they have a positive profit showing on their site then they will have an easier time getting private investors to invest, investors who would more likely agree to leave their investment in their site for longer periods of time.
The fact that Mateo lost a whole bunch of money does not dispel any questions i have about the validity of this user account. Actually it just piles on the questions. How he could have SUCH an amazing win streak then a ridiculous loss streak is just crazy.
just hope people don't fall for it. but new suckers are born every min.
I know they had suggested handing the site over to dooglus to run when they were dealing with the crisis, however he declined (he actually did not response but this is a defacto decline) so it would be possible the site was sold and the numbers are being manipulated in order to con future investors out of their bitcoin.
Jump to: