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Not entirely sure what the "Last Change" column on the rich list is. Surely that one at the top (which holds 21% of all DGB ever mined) must have had some movement in the past year?

The good news is that now we have 2 block explorers and we can confirm: https://digiexplorer.info/address/DCo1dbnnwWB4cucwSduXMdTV1tDErZHNfx

That looks like one "whale" of an investor. It looks to me like it was all purchased on the open market, and not exactly at the lows. I'm doing a fairly close analysis, but you can get a general idea by matching time stamps to the historical price chart. A major investor who has made a huge investment and had no problem riding out the storm when price dropped. I would say that this is someone who plans to hold for a long, long time.

Bigger than the next 9 of the top 10 all put together, but they're no slouches either. Fun to look at. For example, #2 looks like an early miner who later did some buying, #3 looks like a pure investor who was last buying at lows last fall, hung on during the dip to 17 SAT, and has recently taken profits (the rich list is not updated to reflect the most recent sells though . . .), #4 bought his/her entire position between 51-55 SAT between June 30 and July 1 last year and had no problem riding out the slump, etc., etc. These DigiBytes are in strong hands.


Not sure if it was the same person but during the pump last year I saw someone put down 400 million at 100 sat. Removed it after a bit as they were trying to force the price down.

There is some major players on Poloniex.

Perhaps, but by the pattern of buys, I'm not too sure he/she cares too much about a few more or a few less (+-100) SAT. Looks like a very long term accumulation when things are looking good (i.e. not much done in the absolute low ranges).

Looks like wallet #5 is a major exchange, probably Poloniex.


Edit: BTW, 66 SAT is the full halfway back (50% retrace).  Grin
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Edit: Disappointed whale dumps 66 million DGB, but before I posted this. Not my fault!  Cheesy

Just now: 80 million on a hammer down to 51 that closed at 57 (5 min chart). Ouch. The same guy?

Maybe it´s not a guy but a Coinexchange like Litebit.eu dumping a few of the coins they "bought" in the last days.

https://www.litebit.eu/en/buy/digibyte


Could be, but that kind of dumping is indicative of poor money/trade management and I wouldn't expect companies like Litebit to be guilty of that. But anything is possible. They also have restrictions on much they buy and sell at any one time, which you can get around a bit by storing up credits, but even then the amount of coins "available" to be bought or sold is still no where near the amount necessary to cause them to have to immediately "offload" risk in such drastic fashion. That price action looks very emotional to me . . . anything but professional money management.

Edit: the "pros" were most likely on the buy side. Wink

During the last pump I saw a trader place 400 million at 100 sat and remove it, was a fake sell wall. There is 1 or 2 huge holders of digibyte on Poloniex.
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Not entirely sure what the "Last Change" column on the rich list is. Surely that one at the top (which holds 21% of all DGB ever mined) must have had some movement in the past year?

The good news is that now we have 2 block explorers and we can confirm: https://digiexplorer.info/address/DCo1dbnnwWB4cucwSduXMdTV1tDErZHNfx

That looks like one "whale" of an investor. It looks to me like it was all purchased on the open market, and not exactly at the lows. I'm doing a fairly close analysis, but you can get a general idea by matching time stamps to the historical price chart. A major investor who has made a huge investment and had no problem riding out the storm when price dropped. I would say that this is someone who plans to hold for a long, long time.

Bigger than the next 9 of the top 10 all put together, but they're no slouches either. Fun to look at. For example, #2 looks like an early miner who later did some buying, #3 looks like a pure investor who was last buying at lows last fall, hung on during the dip to 17 SAT, and has recently taken profits (the rich list is not updated to reflect the most recent sells though . . .), #4 bought his/her entire position between 51-55 SAT between June 30 and July 1 last year and had no problem riding out the slump, etc., etc. These DigiBytes are in strong hands.


Not sure if it was the same person but during the pump last year I saw someone put down 400 million at 100 sat. Removed it after a bit as they were trying to force the price down.

There is some major players on Poloniex.
HR
legendary
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Not entirely sure what the "Last Change" column on the rich list is. Surely that one at the top (which holds 21% of all DGB ever mined) must have had some movement in the past year?

The good news is that now we have 2 block explorers and we can confirm: https://digiexplorer.info/address/DCo1dbnnwWB4cucwSduXMdTV1tDErZHNfx

That looks like one "whale" of an investor. It looks to me like it was all purchased on the open market, and not exactly at the lows. I'm doing a fairly close analysis, but you can get a general idea by matching time stamps to the historical price chart. A major investor who has made a huge investment and had no problem riding out the storm when price dropped. I would say that this is someone who plans to hold for a long, long time.

Bigger than the next 9 of the top 10 all put together, but they're no slouches either. Fun to look at. For example, #2 looks like an early miner who later did some buying, #3 looks like a pure investor who was last buying at lows last fall, hung on during the dip to 17 SAT, and has recently taken profits (the rich list is not updated to reflect the most recent sells though . . .), #4 bought his/her entire position between 51-55 SAT between June 30 and July 1 last year and had no problem riding out the slump, etc., etc. These DigiBytes are in strong hands.

Edit: the DigiByte explorer just went live today and it looks like raw data is still being processed for the first time as some of these have changed ranking already - for example, what I thought might be a major exchange that was ranked #5 is now, around 8 hours later, ranked #7, #3 is now #5, #4 is now #3, etc. Just be aware that it's still "bootstrapping".
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Hey, hey, hey. How about that? We’ve got a working rich list! https://i.imgur.com/xUfqLxL.jpg





Geographical distribution. https://i.imgur.com/Wip6geO.jpg




The Raw Transaction for that 1st ever SegWit transaction!
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgb/tx.dws?5b04736f8058cc42d3fa54ac1a8b05ace47fc5a82095989f66067415ad49b28e.htm

And lots more at: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgb/

Cheers!



Not entirely sure what the "Last Change" column on the rich list is. Surely that one at the top (which holds 21% of all DGB ever mined) must have had some movement in the past year?
newbie
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Are there any big business backing Digibyte like how Google backs ripple?
HR
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Hey, hey, hey. How about that? We’ve got a working rich list! https://i.imgur.com/xUfqLxL.jpg





Geographical distribution. https://i.imgur.com/Wip6geO.jpg




The Raw Transaction for that 1st ever SegWit transaction!
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgb/tx.dws?5b04736f8058cc42d3fa54ac1a8b05ace47fc5a82095989f66067415ad49b28e.htm

And lots more at: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgb/

Cheers!

HR
legendary
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Maybe ...a Poll...would be able to tell us.....what each of these groups are interested in....exactly.

A Poll for the General Public...would confirm whether or not, my suspisions are correct ^^"

Do they "want" to make money...with DGB ...by doing what ..."Investors" do? (e.g mining)

Or do they just want things cheaper?

I dunno hehe ^^...but thats how "id" find out my answers ^^

On the simplest level, this is what I see:

Devs want people to use their coin to increase it's value, and their profits.

Miners/traders want people to use the coin to increase it's value, and their profits.

General public wants a coin that is easy to use and accepted everywhere.  If it's not as convienant to use as paypal/credit card, the general public isn't interested.

 Right now crypto is only available to those willing to go through all of the barriers to entry to obtain them, and there aren't many good reasons to have them as a consumer.  Without the Silk Road making it worthwhile for people to want to figure BTC out, it never would have gained it's initial traction.    There currently isn't a single reason why the average-joe should use crypto instead of fiat for a legal purchase.  This is what holds us back.

In my opinion, dgb development needs to focus on an easy-to-use wallet with built in fiat/dgb transactions, and lightning network with the intent of targeting Point-of-Sale systems and payment processors.  If we want a healthy crypto-economy, we need commerce.   To increase commerce we must address the issues preventing businesses from accepting crypto as payment.  The most common complaints I've heard from business owners are Confirmations Times, Price Volatility and taxes.   Lighting network will solve transaction times, and enable dgb to utilize smart contracts like ethereum.   Price stability and taxes are harder to solve, but not impossible.  One solution is a 3rd Party payment processor that bears the risk of price fluctuations for a transaction fee.   The payment processor converts DGB to fiat, so the business never has to interface with crypto at all, and doesn't need to worry about the capital gains/losses of dealing with crypto on their taxes.   We need crypto that "just works."

Well said. This sums it up and is abolutely true. One possibility is to get DGB on an existing payment processor or establish one primarily for DGB.

While I believe that the shareholder's main goal is a store of value that is => his or her original purchase price, I also agree that ease of use from a payment perspective is also very important. (A chicken or the egg argument?)

Here are some links to payment processing options. The Bitcoin only sites are obviously not very likely, but imagine if DigiByte could make a breakthrough with one of them! Imagine DGB on Coinbase! Okay, almost impossible, but with the right person making the right contacts, and a little persistence and staying power, we might change that assessment to "sooner or later" (which should be the idea with everything we talk about - where there's a will, there's a way).

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/05/22/shapeshift-io-partners-with-crypto-payment-processor-coinpayments-net/
https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins

https://www.coinbase.com/
https://bitpay.com/
https://www.gocoin.com/
https://cryptopay.me/

DYI (not so easy):
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/20172/how-to-make-a-payment-processor-like-bitpay
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0070.mediawiki

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It seems like the DigiByte Gaming website can't put any DGB into my wallet and I read the notice on the side that popped up which said
"We are pausing all payouts until we fix some issues with exploits in payout API interface. Than you for your understanding."

Does this mean all rewards and points can't be credited anymore? For example if I win a league of legends game will I still get 1 DGB?
Or does it just mean that they're still credited and you can't transfer any out of the website for now?
I'm confused...

Any idea when this will be fixed?
Any answers are helpful, thanks.
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Maybe ...a Poll...would be able to tell us.....what each of these groups are interested in....exactly.

A Poll for the General Public...would confirm whether or not, my suspisions are correct ^^"

Do they "want" to make money...with DGB ...by doing what ..."Investors" do? (e.g mining)

Or do they just want things cheaper?

I dunno hehe ^^...but thats how "id" find out my answers ^^

On the simplest level, this is what I see:

Devs want people to use their coin to increase it's value, and their profits.

Miners/traders want people to use the coin to increase it's value, and their profits.

General public wants a coin that is easy to use and accepted everywhere.  If it's not as convienant to use as paypal/credit card, the general public isn't interested.

 Right now crypto is only available to those willing to go through all of the barriers to entry to obtain them, and there aren't many good reasons to have them as a consumer.  Without the Silk Road making it worthwhile for people to want to figure BTC out, it never would have gained it's initial traction.    There currently isn't a single reason why the average-joe should use crypto instead of fiat for a legal purchase.  This is what holds us back.

In my opinion, dgb development needs to focus on an easy-to-use wallet with built in fiat/dgb transactions, and lightning network with the intent of targeting Point-of-Sale systems and payment processors.  If we want a healthy crypto-economy, we need commerce.   To increase commerce we must address the issues preventing businesses from accepting crypto as payment.  The most common complaints I've heard from business owners are Confirmations Times, Price Volatility and taxes.   Lighting network will solve transaction times, and enable dgb to utilize smart contracts like ethereum.   Price stability and taxes are harder to solve, but not impossible.  One solution is a 3rd Party payment processor that bears the risk of price fluctuations for a transaction fee.   The payment processor converts DGB to fiat, so the business never has to interface with crypto at all, and doesn't need to worry about the capital gains/losses of dealing with crypto on their taxes.   We need crypto that "just works."

Well said. This sums it up and is abolutely true. One possibility is to get DGB on an existing payment processor or establish one primarily for DGB.
HR
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Very 1st ever $DGB SegWit transaction on live DigiByte blockchain sent from HongKong to Australia!


https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/858932036295196672

So you guys are continuing to work?  Cheesy

That's a joke. Of course you are, and it's good to know what you're up to, even if it's just a one line "progress report". And I mean that seriously.

Another first. Very nice. May the list never end!


By the way, what plans are there for updating digiexplorer so everyone can easily see all pertinent data? Do you have any particulars on that yet?
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Official DigiByte Account
Very 1st ever $DGB SegWit transaction on live DigiByte blockchain sent from HongKong to Australia!


https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/858932036295196672
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Maybe ...a Poll...would be able to tell us.....what each of these groups are interested in....exactly.

A Poll for the General Public...would confirm whether or not, my suspisions are correct ^^"

Do they "want" to make money...with DGB ...by doing what ..."Investors" do? (e.g mining)

Or do they just want things cheaper?

I dunno hehe ^^...but thats how "id" find out my answers ^^

On the simplest level, this is what I see:

Devs want people to use their coin to increase it's value, and their profits.

Miners/traders want people to use the coin to increase it's value, and their profits.

General public wants a coin that is easy to use and accepted everywhere.  If it's not as convienant to use as paypal/credit card, the general public isn't interested.

 Right now crypto is only available to those willing to go through all of the barriers to entry to obtain them, and there aren't many good reasons to have them as a consumer.  Without the Silk Road making it worthwhile for people to want to figure BTC out, it never would have gained it's initial traction.    There currently isn't a single reason why the average-joe should use crypto instead of fiat for a legal purchase.  This is what holds us back.

In my opinion, dgb development needs to focus on an easy-to-use wallet with built in fiat/dgb transactions, and lightning network with the intent of targeting Point-of-Sale systems and payment processors.  If we want a healthy crypto-economy, we need commerce.   To increase commerce we must address the issues preventing businesses from accepting crypto as payment.  The most common complaints I've heard from business owners are Confirmations Times, Price Volatility and taxes.   Lighting network will solve transaction times, and enable dgb to utilize smart contracts like ethereum.   Price stability and taxes are harder to solve, but not impossible.  One solution is a 3rd Party payment processor that bears the risk of price fluctuations for a transaction fee.   The payment processor converts DGB to fiat, so the business never has to interface with crypto at all, and doesn't need to worry about the capital gains/losses of dealing with crypto on their taxes.   We need crypto that "just works."
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Maybe ...a Poll...would be able to tell us.....what each of these groups are interested in....exactly.

A Poll for the General Public...would confirm whether or not, my suspisions are correct ^^"

Do they "want" to make money...with DGB ...by doing what ..."Investors" do? (e.g mining)

Or do they just want things cheaper?


Keep in mind....that Investors....spend "serious" money, to "make" ....serious money.

Thats the only reason....mining is apealling...to anyone.


Could the General Public make ..."serious money"....mining .."on the side"?

I would say that ...the "appeal" factor.....for those two groups....when it comes to mining.....are on TOTALLY opposite sides, of the "spectrum" ^^"


I dunno hehe ^^...but thats how "id" find out my answers ^^
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When i "Think" about it....

I "see" ....3 "Parties"....in "this" game...each , with its own "interests"....

- The Creator of DGB

- The Investors (Miners + Traders)

- The General Public

...I believe each Parties interests to be completely..."unique"....from eachother...

And the Success of "this" coin will depend ..largely...on ...prioritizing each of these "interests"....in the "correct" order... (whatever that may be ^^")

..but if i were to take a "crack" at it...i would say that...


- The Creator of DGB likely has "ideals/dreams" for this coin...more so "focused" on ..."moral values"...of whatever kind.

- The Investors.....are simply interested in "profit"....plain and simple.

- The General Public....just want things, for "cheaper".


Forcing the "interests" of "One" of these groups...upon another group....will likely end up in a fail....they must be kept seperate, and prioritized correctly...

....maybe im talking crap hehe...but im just trying be "real" here...and throw out ...any ideas....that could benefit DGB.....or potentially harm it.

If these 3 entities "interests", are prioritized in the correct order...i personally think....you will find success , then ^^"

I dunno....thats just my 2 cents worth hehe ^^"
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I have over to 50 million DGB now, I'm not going anywhere! Moon or bust!
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I don't get it, you guys have nothing smarter to do than to came here  and brag about your lost/bad projects ? You are all pathetic ( MYR and GRS ) trolls.

Digibyte was this first coin on Poloniex to activate Segwit. Being first on Poloniex is actually being first in crypto. Coins not on Poloniex are a waste of fucking space and time.

Are you sure that DGB was first on Poloniex ? SYS is on poloniex too.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/syscoin-becomes-first-cryptocurrency-to-debut-mainnet-lightning-network



Look at the prices of MYR and Shadowcash after they getting removed from Poloniex. Shadowcash has crashed from $15 - $20 million to $3 million marketcap.

This is the one danger of dgb and all traders must do there best to keep dgb on Poloniex. I provide some fake volume at times when there isn't a pump taking place. Getting removed from Poloniex is a death sentence for any coin.

You are wrong because SDC going to remove from polo because Dev Team make swap this coin to new project tradeplatform PARTICL token in new ICO form to take funds for developing and expanse. So SDC its not crashed by polo remove but is removed because its not support more by dev team after end of swap its meaning its abandon now and almost all coins was swaped.
Myr its crap so they are remove from polo.

Sry bad english.
HR
legendary
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^^

No doubt about it. We live in an instant gratification society!

Your arguments are valid and solid. The question is whether we want to try to please everybody, whether it's even worth it to try, and how much we would want to "compromise" the inherent value of the product to begin with. Not something two of us can do in a couple of hours.

We need to get more input from as many people as possible, both about the specifics of engaging gamers as well as the larger, global task of bringing DGB to the responsible masses (did you notice how the word responsible changes that phrase? Wink ).

Who are we, who do we want to attract, and then what kind of message(s) do we want to send to the world?
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Yea i know your right =)

Im just trying to place myself in "their shoes" for a minute....and try to "See" ...possible obstacles....either obvious, or not so obvious.

And when i do that....

...another thing that comes to mind is...

I can "see" them thinking like...."OMG....this S#$T's gonna take FOREVER! to accumulate...before i can actually "use" this...Bahh.!! I give up..."

..which tells me that , they want "INSTANT" relief.....via way of DGB....no "weeks" or "months" long ...waiting times...before they can "reap their rewards"...

...And to me ...instant relief....would come in the form....of permanent discounts ^^"

hehe okay srry thats all ill say...

I REALLY know nothing about this kind of thing really ^^

NO DOUBT...theres a million and one...other things...i havent taken into account ^~

I still have faith in DGB!!!!
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I mean...i DO like the idea of ...."Mining your way to Free Games"...but...

...to me, it really "needs" to be a "win win" for them.

Mining for free games is GREAT!

But paying the price... in power costs...is not so great ^^.

So...me, personally....I wouldnt offer them a "win lose" deal.

Id just focus on ...exactly what they want.

Cheaper monthly fees.....and discounts on games ^^

To "Them"...thats a "win win".

Coz now.....our offer....has no connection...what so ever......with ....paying "the price" , in power.....for mining DGB.



My thinking is a little different in that I would prefer to project implied value, and the giveaway tends to do the opposite, unless there is a "catch" that comes later . . .

The extra power cost for a high end gaming machine would average around 50 cents a day (around the same cost as their current gaming) and would most likely not be seriously considered in the majority of cases, but it would be appreciated nonetheless, and that would give real value to the DGB mined since there is indeed a cost, albeit very small on this level (insignificant when compared to the cost of the computer that they already have for other purposes).

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Giveaways bring in short termers who cash out and leave. After all, it's free, so it can't be worth holding on to, much less looking into how I could buy or mine more. From a more sociological viewpoint about individual dependence/independence, this old saying says just about everything: give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

I think we need to teach the value of DGB, and how to steadily acquire it, whether it be to teenagers or adult investors. A serious cryptocurrency needs a serious community to seriously make itself known to everyone who is serious about storing value.
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