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Topic: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) - page 27. (Read 104454 times)

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 08, 2012, 08:14:08 PM
He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.

What does he deserve?...

He NEVER supported anything other than telling people to PUT UP or SHUT UP.

This is true. In his words and yours he said he would put up (i.e. honoring the bet).

sr. member
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I heart thebaron
September 08, 2012, 08:14:03 PM
No one made him do it. He chose to.

Plus by your own admission you just said you would lie to help Matthew win the bet if everyone else got paid out.

Not a good thing by my book and the rules of the bet that is in place. Not very honorable.

As I said, Matthew chose to make this bet. No one forced him.

At this point, if people think of me not in an honorable light, then so be it. THAT is par for the course around here. Flip/Flop.
I know what I know and have nothing left to prove to anyone.

Matthew underestimated Pirate's disdain for me.

sr. member
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I heart thebaron
September 08, 2012, 08:11:25 PM
He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.

What does he deserve?...

He NEVER supported anything other than telling people to PUT UP or SHUT UP.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 08, 2012, 08:10:47 PM
I honestly feel bad for Matthew.

I understand what he was trying to accomplish with this, but I fear that it is blowing up in his face. I commend him for trying to shut everyone up, but he ends up carrying the flag alone.

If it comes down to everyone getting paid except for me, I would have strong reservations in regards to telling the truth about me being paid, rather, out-right lying to protect Matthew.
He is putting TOO MUCH on the line for simply ideals.

I respect Matthew, but he doesn't deserve this.

No one made him do it. He chose to.

Plus by your own admission you just said you would lie to help Matthew win the bet if everyone else got paid out.

Not a good thing by my book and the rules of the bet that is in place. Not very honorable.

As I said, Matthew chose to make this bet. No one forced him.
newbie
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September 08, 2012, 08:09:19 PM
I honestly feel bad for Matthew.

I understand what he was trying to accomplish with this, but I fear that it is blowing up in his face. I commend him for trying to shut everyone up, but he ends up carrying the flag alone.

If it comes down to everyone getting paid except for me, I would have strong reservations in regards to telling the truth about me being paid, rather, out-right lying to protect Matthew.
He is putting TOO MUCH on the line for simply ideals.

I respect Matthew, but he doesn't deserve this.

He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.

What does he deserve?...
sr. member
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September 08, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
The obvious one: he has no real reputation to lose. Unless you count bad reputation as a reputation to keep.

He said: "I will pay or take the scammer tag." Scammer tag it is.

Loopholes? In a non-escrowed bet? No, not a one... Roll Eyes

Right, but of course I meant something in the language.
sr. member
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I heart thebaron
September 08, 2012, 08:06:43 PM
I honestly feel bad for Matthew.

I understand what he was trying to accomplish with this, but I fear that it is blowing up in his face. I commend him for trying to shut everyone up, but he ends up carrying the flag alone.

If it comes down to everyone getting paid except for me, I would have strong reservations in regards to telling the truth about me being paid, rather, out-right lying to protect Matthew.
He is putting TOO MUCH on the line for simply ideals.

I respect Matthew, but he doesn't deserve this.
full member
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September 08, 2012, 07:58:13 PM
He keeps saying how he will pay out "according to the rules of my thread."

Anyone see any loopholes?

Loopholes? In a non-escrowed bet? No, not a one... Roll Eyes
donator
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September 08, 2012, 07:55:50 PM
He keeps saying how he will pay out "according to the rules of my thread."

Anyone see any loopholes?

The obvious one: he has no real reputation to lose. Unless you count bad reputation as a reputation to keep.

He said: "I will pay or take the scammer tag." Scammer tag it is.
sr. member
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September 08, 2012, 07:47:22 PM
He keeps saying how he will pay out "according to the rules of my thread."

Anyone see any loopholes?
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 08, 2012, 07:45:40 PM
I don't see this ending very well for Matthew. I told him that this bet was a 100% LOSER.

Matthew can not win unless I get paid and Pirate has made it clear to me and others, what he has planned for me.

Yup i agree 100%. This also stays fair to the rules.

BTW what should your account be with the 7% weekly compounded interest to today?
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I heart thebaron
September 08, 2012, 07:39:02 PM
I don't see this ending very well for Matthew. I told him that this bet was a 100% LOSER.

Matthew can not win unless I get paid and Pirate has made it clear to me and others, what he has planned for me.
donator
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September 08, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
Let's recap a bit from the other thread.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1113276
Thank you everyone for showing a huge amount of integrity to bet for your beliefs instead of just arguing, defaming, accusing, aggravating, etc. Many of you truly believe Pirate is a ponzi, many of you are simply utilizing my offer for hedging, and still others are simply happy to take a 50/50 chance bet on anything. Regardless, we are at the 10,000BTC mark and thus I am locking the thread so that no more bets can be received here.

I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).

The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.

Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
(emphasis mine)

1 day, 18 hours, 39 minutes, 50 seconds from NOW.

8 hours, 14 minutes, 12 seconds
legendary
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September 08, 2012, 07:29:13 PM
999 BTC
1FkEnsjJPJSEJCzEMi2a2QGcLvn65b6ieZ
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legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 08, 2012, 07:21:10 PM
8 hrs left  Cheesy



Actually its about 8 hours and 29 minutes now...
hero member
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Wat
September 08, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
8 hrs left  Cheesy

sr. member
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September 08, 2012, 05:59:44 PM
probably psy then, I always get you two confused for some reason
hero member
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September 08, 2012, 05:57:07 PM

Cant take credit for that, Ive never even seen it. But its a handy link Smiley
sr. member
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sr. member
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September 08, 2012, 05:22:45 PM
Its the 9th in South Korea.  Matt needs to pay up.


he had set a time in PM there, like 4:30 or some such.(need to verify)

But, one can see here the time currently in MNW's part of the world;
http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i39ysivc/n235/fn9/fs20/ftb/bo2/tt0/tw1/ts1/ta1/tb4

Oh okay, didn't mean to jump the gun.

Quote from: smoothie
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just about 10.5 hours left until the bet is over.

Time is a ticking ....

Cool, I can sleep for a few more hours.

Cheers!
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