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EDIT: The message doesn't include the quotations, it's what's inside of them. Also, this address is nearly 6 btc short of my total bet. As this is (or was) my cold wallet, I have other addresses that I keep online.
Topic: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) - page 26. (Read 104471 times)
If Matthew loses his bet, he needs to MAKE PEOPLE PROVE THAT THEY HAVE BITCOINS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THEIR BET....otherwise, the bet for THAT person should be VOID.
So now on top of admitting to lying for Matthew in that one possible scenario you want to play the referee in the outcome of bets? Sorry that wasn't part of the agreement. If he loses he pays. If betters lose they pay him. Simple as that.
Matthew offered to take a 2500 BTC bet from me (my Pirate account, at the time). I DIDN'T BET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT.
Yes and that is your choice for not betting. But because you choose not to bet does not make you the referee to change the rules on the outcome of the bet. Accept that.
I love the part where people are arguing about why something happened that hasn't happened. Keep the comedy coming! (It's 15 hours left on the bet btw, not 8. This is how lazy the fudding has gotten lately. I am disappoint.)
Here is your statement:
Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1128484
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Thank you everyone for showing a huge amount of integrity to bet for your beliefs instead of just arguing, defaming, accusing, aggravating, etc. Many of you truly believe Pirate is a ponzi, many of you are simply utilizing my offer for hedging, and still others are simply happy to take a 50/50 chance bet on anything. Regardless, we are at the 10,000BTC mark and thus I am locking the thread so that no more bets can be received here.
I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
Current KST: http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/asia/kst.html
Sunday, September 9, 2012 at 9:29:23 AM KST
Looks like about 7 hours and 20 minutes or so by my estimation based on your statement.
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Let's recap a bit from the other thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1113276
1 day, 18 hours, 39 minutes, 50 seconds from NOW.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1113276
Thank you everyone for showing a huge amount of integrity to bet for your beliefs instead of just arguing, defaming, accusing, aggravating, etc. Many of you truly believe Pirate is a ponzi, many of you are simply utilizing my offer for hedging, and still others are simply happy to take a 50/50 chance bet on anything. Regardless, we are at the 10,000BTC mark and thus I am locking the thread so that no more bets can be received here.
I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
(emphasis mine)I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
1 day, 18 hours, 39 minutes, 50 seconds from NOW.
8 hours, 14 minutes, 12 seconds
I love the part where people are arguing about why something happened that hasn't happened. Keep the comedy coming! (It's 15 hours left on the bet btw, not 8. This is how lazy the fudding has gotten lately. I am disappoint.)
On the timeline you gave (quoted above) it's now exactly 7 hours, 23 minutes, 45 seconds.
This was corrected on IRC and is old news. Check the thread OP and do the math.
If Matthew loses his bet, he needs to MAKE PEOPLE PROVE THAT THEY HAVE BITCOINS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THEIR BET....otherwise, the bet for THAT person should be VOID.
So now on top of admitting to lying for Matthew in that one possible scenario you want to play the referee in the outcome of bets? Sorry that wasn't part of the agreement. If he loses he pays. If betters lose they pay him. Simple as that.
Matthew offered to take a 2500 BTC bet from me (my Pirate account, at the time). I DIDN'T BET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT.
That is why I bet only 20 BTC even though I am 99% certain that I would win.
If Matthew loses his bet, he needs to MAKE PEOPLE PROVE THAT THEY HAVE BITCOINS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THEIR BET....otherwise, the bet for THAT person should be VOID.
So now on top of admitting to lying for Matthew in that one possible scenario you want to play the referee in the outcome of bets? Sorry that wasn't part of the agreement. If he loses he pays. If betters lose they pay him. Simple as that.
Matthew offered to take a 2500 BTC bet from me (my Pirate account, at the time). I DIDN'T BET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT.
Let's recap a bit from the other thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1113276
1 day, 18 hours, 39 minutes, 50 seconds from NOW.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1113276
Thank you everyone for showing a huge amount of integrity to bet for your beliefs instead of just arguing, defaming, accusing, aggravating, etc. Many of you truly believe Pirate is a ponzi, many of you are simply utilizing my offer for hedging, and still others are simply happy to take a 50/50 chance bet on anything. Regardless, we are at the 10,000BTC mark and thus I am locking the thread so that no more bets can be received here.
I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
(emphasis mine)I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
1 day, 18 hours, 39 minutes, 50 seconds from NOW.
8 hours, 14 minutes, 12 seconds
I love the part where people are arguing about why something happened that hasn't happened. Keep the comedy coming! (It's 15 hours left on the bet btw, not 8. This is how lazy the fudding has gotten lately. I am disappoint.)
On the timeline you gave (quoted above) it's now exactly 7 hours, 23 minutes, 45 seconds.
If Matthew loses his bet, he needs to MAKE PEOPLE PROVE THAT THEY HAVE BITCOINS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THEIR BET....otherwise, the bet for THAT person should be VOID.
You don't get to set the terms AFTER the bet is won or lost. Matt could have required an escrow. Hell the only thing that would have made sense is to escrow funds from both sides.
He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.
What does he deserve?...
What does he deserve?...
He NEVER supported anything other than telling people to PUT UP or SHUT UP.
Looked like he supported the hell out of it on IRC.
Gobbling that Pirate peg...leg...
I dont see the point in trolling Matthew by saying things that are irrelevant to the situation at hand. 7 more hours...just chill.
Well, this is my trolling account... sorta...
Ok, I'll be good.
If Matthew loses his bet, he needs to MAKE PEOPLE PROVE THAT THEY HAVE BITCOINS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THEIR BET....otherwise, the bet for THAT person should be VOID.
So now on top of admitting to lying for Matthew in that one possible scenario you want to play the referee in the outcome of bets? Sorry that wasn't part of the agreement. If he loses he pays. If betters lose they pay him. Simple as that.
He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.
What does he deserve?...
What does he deserve?...
He NEVER supported anything other than telling people to PUT UP or SHUT UP.
Yeah PUT UP on a bet he had no intention of honoring.
Yes he is certainly a victim. Poor him for making false bets... OH NOES. What other choice did he have.
Well, so be it.
I for one would LOVE to see everyone's bet money, waiting to pay Matthew.
I would also LOVE to see who has WHAT at stake, out of everyone commenting here.
Most of the people that took the bet with Matthew couldn't pay on the spot, even if they wanted to.
I for one would LOVE to see everyone's bet money, waiting to pay Matthew.
I would also LOVE to see who has WHAT at stake, out of everyone commenting here.
Most of the people that took the bet with Matthew couldn't pay on the spot, even if they wanted to.
Would you be happy if I dug up my cold wallet and signed a message with it?
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Most of the outspoken people, on the Pirate situation, don't even have an iron in the Pirate Fire......
PATHETIC.
PATHETIC.
I have a stake in Bitcoin, and in this forum. I think that is more than enough.
Would people in this community REALLY bet what they don't have ?
I would guess that over 50% of the bets CAN NOT be paid by the people that made them.
I would guess that over 50% of the bets CAN NOT be paid by the people that made them.
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I love the part where people are arguing about why something happened that hasn't happened. Keep the comedy coming! (It's 15 hours left on the bet btw, not 8. This is how lazy the fudding has gotten lately. I am disappoint.)
Well, so be it.
I for one would LOVE to see everyone's bet money, waiting to pay Matthew.
I would also LOVE to see who has WHAT at stake, out of everyone commenting here.
Most of the people that took the bet with Matthew couldn't pay on the spot, even if they wanted to.
Most of the outspoken people, on the Pirate situation, don't even have an iron in the Pirate Fire......
PATHETIC.
I for one would LOVE to see everyone's bet money, waiting to pay Matthew.
I would also LOVE to see who has WHAT at stake, out of everyone commenting here.
Most of the people that took the bet with Matthew couldn't pay on the spot, even if they wanted to.
Most of the outspoken people, on the Pirate situation, don't even have an iron in the Pirate Fire......
PATHETIC.
Go read the terms. No where does the terms of the bet say anything about proving you have the money. Even Matthew hasn't proved it. Proving has nothing to do with the outcome of the bet and who will win.
If Matthew loses his bet, he needs to MAKE PEOPLE PROVE THAT THEY HAVE BITCOINS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THEIR BET....otherwise, the bet for THAT person should be VOID.
Well, so be it.
I for one would LOVE to see everyone's bet money, waiting to pay Matthew.
I would also LOVE to see who has WHAT at stake, out of everyone commenting here.
Most of the people that took the bet with Matthew couldn't pay on the spot, even if they wanted to.
Most of the outspoken people, on the Pirate situation, don't even have an iron in the Pirate Fire......
PATHETIC.
I for one would LOVE to see everyone's bet money, waiting to pay Matthew.
I would also LOVE to see who has WHAT at stake, out of everyone commenting here.
Most of the people that took the bet with Matthew couldn't pay on the spot, even if they wanted to.
Most of the outspoken people, on the Pirate situation, don't even have an iron in the Pirate Fire......
PATHETIC.
He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.
What does he deserve?...
What does he deserve?...
He NEVER supported anything other than telling people to PUT UP or SHUT UP.
Looked like he supported the hell out of it on IRC.
Gobbling that Pirate peg...leg...
I dont see the point in trolling Matthew by saying things that are irrelevant to the situation at hand. 7 more hours...just chill.
I honestly feel bad for Matthew.
I understand what he was trying to accomplish with this, but I fear that it is blowing up in his face. I commend him for trying to shut everyone up, but he ends up carrying the flag alone.
If it comes down to everyone getting paid except for me, I would have strong reservations in regards to telling the truth about me being paid, rather, out-right lying to protect Matthew.
He is putting TOO MUCH on the line for simply ideals.
I respect Matthew, but he doesn't deserve this.
I wouldn't worry. I doubt anyone is getting paid...except maybe those with the best chance of prosecuting pirate. I understand what he was trying to accomplish with this, but I fear that it is blowing up in his face. I commend him for trying to shut everyone up, but he ends up carrying the flag alone.
If it comes down to everyone getting paid except for me, I would have strong reservations in regards to telling the truth about me being paid, rather, out-right lying to protect Matthew.
He is putting TOO MUCH on the line for simply ideals.
I respect Matthew, but he doesn't deserve this.
He supported and defended the largest scam in bitcoin's history.
What does he deserve?...
What does he deserve?...
He NEVER supported anything other than telling people to PUT UP or SHUT UP.
Looked like he supported the hell out of it on IRC.
Gobbling that Pirate peg...leg...
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