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Topic: 📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝 - page 15. (Read 6442 times)

hero member
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Each thought about someone applying for multiple positions are correct, each opinion that has been given has a point and very valid.
I think when someone applies for multiple campaigns, it's not that even guaranteed that all of the campaigns he'd applied for will he be accepted. But yeah, if I'm a campaign manager and already had accepted someone and then later on, that accepted applicants says that he's no longer going to pursue his acceptance to the campaign, both have just wasted their times but to this, it is the campaign manager's discretion. Yeah, like everyone's opinion, as for the campaign managers - to his each own.
legendary
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I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

If they did, I don't think it was fair!
A user, when applying for another campaign, is just trying to get a better appreciation of his work. This does not mean that he wants to stop working on the current campaign, just that he wants to improve his conditions.

If a campaign manager starts to see that many of his current users are signing up for other campaigns, this is a sign that his campaign is no longer competitive with others in the market. Then, he should evaluate this with the sponsor and see what can be done to insure users.

Sorry for not being clear - I didn't mean a situation where active participants are trying to switch to a different campaign, but when one person applies for a spot in multiple campaigns. In such case, it's probably easier for a manager to just ignore such applicants as there's no certainty they will actually be interested in taking the spot if accepted.

In the comments above people are (correctly) comparing it to applying for a job in "real life". Well, "I'm not entirely sure if I want this job. I applied for multiple other positions and want to wait and see what they say" - is probably not something you would want to say during the job interview Smiley

When there's a large demand for campaign spots, and if there are plenty of quality posters to choose from, managers can afford to be picky.
legendary
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It's probably would be best if managers themselves would tell what's their stance on it. We can only speculate. Personally, I think it's not big deal. It's inconvenience for managers if users who applied to that campaign got accepted into another. But probably not the major one.
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I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

If they did, I don't think it was fair!
A user, when applying for another campaign, is just trying to get a better appreciation of his work. This does not mean that he wants to stop working on the current campaign, just that he wants to improve his conditions.

If a campaign manager starts to see that many of his current users are signing up for other campaigns, this is a sign that his campaign is no longer competitive with others in the market. Then, he should evaluate this with the sponsor and see what can be done to insure users.
legendary
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It's probably would be best if managers themselves would tell what's their stance on it. We can only speculate. Personally, I think it's not big deal. It's inconvenience for managers if users who applied to that campaign got accepted into another. But probably not the major one.
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I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

legendary
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What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?
It is up to the campaign managers to judge about such attitudes. They can prohibit applying to other campaigns until they get an answer which should be quick in this case or wearing the signature / avatar until they get the response.
Personally, I think it should be tolerated since empty spaces get filled in few hours in general and might take months to open up again.
That's my opinion unless these people keep their applications in the other campaigns after being accepted in one of it which will be very frustrating for all parties..
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?
It's probably would be best if managers themselves would tell what's their stance on it. We can only speculate. Personally, I think it's not big deal. It's inconvenience for managers if users who applied to that campaign got accepted into another. But probably not the major one.
There is good example given above - people applying to multiple jobs at the same time - it's completely normal practice. And when you get calls from both companies that you accepted, you choose that one which offer better conditions.
legendary
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What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

Just as a person applies for several jobs at the same time, he can do the same with campaigns.

Since the campaigns have different rhythms, it is up to the candidate, when chosen for one, to cancel his registration in the others that are open.

If the campaign manager sees a candidate that he really wants, he should at least send a PM asking him to wait until the closing date for candidacies, guaranteeing that he will be chosen.

Do not forget that this is a market based on supply and demand, and therefore everyone has to be willing to win or lose opportunities, both candidates and campaign managers.
hero member
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What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?
There's no official consensus about it, it depends on each managers perspective.

There's a manager who ask their participants to wear signature during applying, this could be one of selection to know which user is really free and don't join other campaign. But the bad thing is, this rule will make the project get free advertisement.

There's a manager who give feedback or note on a specific user to not accept him anymore because he's a campaign jumper.

But there's a manager who doesn't do anything and no restrict rule about it.
hero member
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What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?
Imo, this is just like applying for a job vacancy at different companies with your same resume. Should be acceptable as long as the person applying is a decent poster. You can easily judge the quality of interest the person has by their posting habits, etc.

From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign
If ppl are getting more bucks for renting their sig. space/avatar somewhere else (with a decent project), they change it. Hence, the project owners always have to keep their payrates high enough to compete with other campaigns here and attract quality posters instead of running a low budget campaign full of shtposters.

Ppl dont leave if the camp. got a good budget (for e.g. chipmixer).
legendary
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What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?
legendary
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**In BTC since 2013**
Hey! Fun fact... 63 forum users think that Hhampuz continues the dynasty of managers.  Cheesy

Was this data collected based on the statistics you are doing?

I hope they compile this data soon, as it will be very interesting to analyze it.  Wink
legendary
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light_warrior ... 🕯️
Hey! Fun fact... 63 forum users think that Hhampuz continues the dynasty of managers.  Cheesy

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legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.
I think that even at current rates it would be good deal. After all, in average it's like 50% of what most campaigns paying for waring signature (and in many cases avatar at the same time). $40-$50/week just for wearing avatar without any big requirements would be great offer.
BTW, I remember that 7-6 years ago avatar campaigns werequite frequent thing here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-complete-avatar-campaigns-15-may-2017-1087042
Only later most signature campaigns started to require to wear their avatar and users weren't able to earn extra money by promoting other service in their avatar.
legendary
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Goodnight, o_e_l_e_o 🌹
About the avatar rent, is there any kind of posting conditions attached to it, such that if you don't meet up, you won't get paid. If there is no such rule, how about a user who barely visits the forum or makes posts.
If there are not strict rules, 1mBTC is nice, especially when BTC is not in big bear as at this time.

Quote from: dkbit98
link=topic=5343776.msg60640668#msg60640668 date=1658949993

I think that gold bitcoin standard for renting avatars is Foxpup's Merit Cycling Club, but you can't get into this club unless you are really intimate with LoyceV and you need make a blood sacrifice Cheesy
The blood sacrifice is available for only Chipmixer participants. Ordinary user of the forum would need to sacrifice oneself then.
legendary
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Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.

I think it's an interesting value.
You just have to take into account that if it's a campaign that also has a subscription, users who use both avatar+subscription receive a fair value, so those who use only avatar will earn more.
legendary
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Heisenberg
This
Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.

And this?

Yes, 1 mBTC per week without any obligation.

I say that would be a hell of a good deal  Cheesy
Not so many campaigns even pay that well for lower ranks or give the participants any hope that the campaign is long term.
legendary
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Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.

this is more than good. don't forget that some members don't even have that much for signatures together with an avatar.
I would say that it is an overpaid amount because I doubt that the avatar has any special marketing potential.

as for everything else, if you can hold that amount and wait for a better time, then it will certainly sound much better.
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
Looks like the bear market has reached the signature campaigns as well.  Embarrassed
Snowball effect is coming but if you look at signature campaigns on the forum in the last bear market, worst has yet come (possibly)
  • Worst might be around if we assume the crypto industry including signature campaign industry has grown after the last bull run.
  • Worst has yet come if we assume the worst should be something like in past bear market

Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership.
Good enough I think but very few members are available for it. You can also check the rate from Crypto.Games that offer $40 per 4 weeks for both avatar + personal text.
legendary
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Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.
It is whether both parts consider 1 mBTC = 1 mBTC and accept the fluctuations on the BTC/USD pair or just fix the amount on USD and convert it to BTC at the exact time of payment regardless of the fluctuations, just like most signature campaign is doing right now.
Personally, I find the price good for the moment in USD and a little exaggerated at $40-50 per week, especially if already enrolled in signature campaign that doesn't require an avatar.
legendary
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Yes, 1 mBTC per week without any obligation.
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