📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝 - page 16.

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Quote from: icopress on July 27, 2022, 04:22:41 AM

Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.

In my opinion 1 mBTC is very suitable for renting an avatar, especially if it is in the long-term, firstly bitcoin is on the rise and secondly wearing an avatar does not cost any extra effort. This is an acceptable additional income especially if the member is not participating in a campaign.
But this varies from person to person, some may say that this amount is low and their avatar is worth more than that. In addition, some campaigns require the use of avatars.

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Quote from: icopress on July 27, 2022, 04:22:41 AM

Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Do you mean 1 mBTC per week for renting avatar or something else?
It all depends what service is being advertised and if there are any special conditions or not, but I would say 1 mBTC is minimum, and sure BTC can go up but it could also go down.
I think that ~~gold~~ bitcoin standard for renting avatars is Foxpup's Merit Cycling Club, but you can't get into this club unless you are really intimate with LoyceV and you need make a blood sacrifice Cheesy

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Quote from: icopress on July 27, 2022, 04:22:41 AM

Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.

1 mBTC/week? I'd say it's good offer for those who want stability. But i don't expect many active user available since,
1. Many signature campaign also require avatar usage.
2. The avatar might conflict with signature.

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Guys I have a question... is 1 mBTC a normal offer for renting an avatar?

Let's say it's a long-term partnership. Now it's only $21 but when Bitcoin returns to its previous rate, rent will cost $40-50 per week.

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Quote from: icopress on July 24, 2022, 05:29:12 AM

Looks like the bear market has reached the signature campaigns as well. Embarrassed

It is periodic. There is times where you find many signature campaigns popping up at the same time, and there is times where things are quite boring.
In bear market, you find many people holding, others afraid and others cashing out so it is normal to see that coincidence.

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Quote from: joker_josue on July 24, 2022, 06:45:21 AM

Quote from: icopress on July 24, 2022, 05:29:12 AM

Looks like the bear market has reached the signature campaigns as well. Embarrassed

Then why?
Fewer new campaigns coming up, or less forum activity?

Same shit different year I imagine:

Less $ value available for signature campaigns
Less advertising in a bear market generally
Less activity in a bear market (ad hits)

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Quote from: icopress on July 24, 2022, 05:29:12 AM

Looks like the bear market has reached the signature campaigns as well. Embarrassed

Then why?
Fewer new campaigns coming up, or less forum activity?

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Looks like the bear market has reached the signature campaigns as well. Embarrassed

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Quote from: dragonvslinux on June 26, 2022, 10:30:13 AM

Quote from: logfiles on June 25, 2022, 03:47:02 PM

Quote from: dragonvslinux on June 10, 2022, 01:26:53 PM

I otherwise think bonuses for most merited participants would be an interesting dynamic, rather than those who max out the campaign getting paid the most, in order to encourage quality of posting not just quantity.

Relying on most merited alone can get boring and sometimes unfair.

That's not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting a bonus for most merited participants. This could be a user who only posted 10-20 times in a week, and even with a bonus would be rewarded less than a participant who made 50 posts per week. So it wouldn't be relying on most merited to be rewarded the most what so ever, it would be equally rewarding quality not just quantity.

This seems like a good idea, promo participants to focus on the quality instead of quantity, just to meet the quota. But this also makes it unfair since if the participant has a better merit circle, where he knows most of the people, he can easily get merited for some simple posts. We all know how the merit works in bitcointalk, it doesn't mean the absolute quality gets merited but also has other factors in. A guy talks on his local board, with some of his local friends, where both enjoy the contents of the others, and exchange merited to each other. This doesn't mean they are abusing the merit system. Because it stayed true to the spirit 'your post is worthy in my view so it can receive a token of goodwill'. So I think merit should be counted as a bonus only, not precedence the quote or posts per week.

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Quote from: logfiles on June 25, 2022, 03:47:02 PM

Quote from: dragonvslinux on June 10, 2022, 01:26:53 PM

I otherwise think bonuses for most merited participants would be an interesting dynamic, rather than those who max out the campaign getting paid the most, in order to encourage quality of posting not just quantity.

Relying on most merited alone can get boring and sometimes unfair.

That's not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting a bonus for most merited participants. This could be a user who only posted 10-20 times in a week, and even with a bonus would be rewarded less than a participant who made 50 posts per week. So it wouldn't be relying on most merited to be rewarded the most what so ever, it would be equally rewarding quality not just quantity.

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Quote from: logfiles on June 25, 2022, 03:47:02 PM

Quote from: dragonvslinux on June 10, 2022, 01:26:53 PM

I otherwise think bonuses for most merited participants would be an interesting dynamic, rather than those who max out the campaign getting paid the most, in order to encourage quality of posting not just quantity.

Relying on most merited alone can get boring and sometimes unfair.

We do have users here who could just make a few lines or a meme in the Bitcoin wall observer thread, and that would be enough for them to earn 20-30 merits per week, while someone who made constructive posts in other threads could get just 10 merits or even none.

That's right.

This type of control would only be possible if there were specific rules for attributing merits. Fortunately, that doesn't exist, and it's up to each user to assign merits to the posts they think they should.
What for one user may deserve merit, for another may not. So relying on this to get rewards in campaigns can give a false sense of quality.

The job of a campaign manager, turns out to be a bit like that, to check the quality of posts from registered users. Maybe for the first few weeks, being more attentive to the type of posts that users he doesn't know.

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Quote from: notblox1 on June 10, 2022, 01:08:11 PM

Good campaigns should be longer term, and I would accept lower payment if manager can guarantee that campaign will be active for few months.

I agree with you that good campaigns should be long, also I accept that the payment is less if the campaign is longer, when the campaign is long and there is no minimum number of posts the participants feel comfortable and the quality of the posts is higher because they will not be in a race against time.
But I think that the length of the campaign is not determined by the campaign manager, but by the advertising company. The campaign manager can, of course, request that the campaign be long, but the advertising company does not have to agree to the request because it may have a limited budget for the campaign.

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Quote from: dragonvslinux on June 10, 2022, 01:26:53 PM

I otherwise think bonuses for most merited participants would be an interesting dynamic, rather than those who max out the campaign getting paid the most, in order to encourage quality of posting not just quantity.

Relying on most merited alone can get boring and sometimes unfair.

We do have users here who could just make a few lines or a meme in the Bitcoin wall observer thread, and that would be enough for them to earn 20-30 merits per week, while someone who made constructive posts in other threads could get just 10 merits or even none.

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Quote from: icopress on June 09, 2022, 01:27:36 PM

So guys.

Within 24 hours I will announce a campaign that will last four weeks in test mode, (rather large and on behalf of a fairly well-known brand). I would like to hear from you guys what, in your opinion, the conditions of the campaign should be in order for it to be ideal. Please be objective because we live in the real world.

I ask because if we can build easy and trusting relationships from the very beginning, then the action will last for a long time.

Haven't done a sig campaign for a while, as they are mostly for casinos/gambling in order to attract degenerate gamblers to their cause. Super pleased that Wasabi Wallet has come to bitcointalk, and that posts aren't required in gambling sections. Hopefully a long-time relationship can be fostered, similar to mixing websites like Chip Mixer that benefit from long-term sig campaigns.

I otherwise think bonuses for most merited participants would be an interesting dynamic, rather than those who max out the campaign getting paid the most, in order to encourage quality of posting not just quantity.

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Quote from: icopress on June 09, 2022, 01:27:36 PM

Within 24 hours I will announce a campaign that will last four weeks in test mode, (rather large and on behalf of a fairly well-known brand). I would like to hear from you guys what, in your opinion, the conditions of the campaign should be in order for it to be ideal. Please be objective because we live in the real world.

I think best campaign should enable members to make any amount of posts they want, not limited with minimum number posted for each week, because I can be busy sometimes and I can't write in forum.
Making bonus payments each week for members with best post would be great and that would motivate them to write better quality posts.
I would like to have personal text below avatar available so I can write anything I want if it is not against current signature campaign.
Good campaigns should be longer term, and I would accept lower payment if manager can guarantee that campaign will be active for few months.

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I think that every signature campaign participant can write a review about the thing they introduce. It doesn't have to be a very detailed review. But at least people can learn about what they are introducing by doing this and this can increase the visibility of the thing being introduced on the forum. Reviews don't have to be only positive. We need to be able to see the positive and negative sides of that thing from an impartial point of view.

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Quote from: icopress on June 10, 2022, 09:13:11 AM

Actually, I make exceptions for such nuggets ... for example, for n0nce, when he was a full member, the designer created an individual signature.

Good to hear that you are willing to go extra length for a quality lower ranked member, even though finding another member of n0nce quality won't be an easy task.

Quote from: icopress on June 10, 2022, 09:13:11 AM

Also, if you know names that I should look out for, feel free to post them here.

Can't say that I noticed someone extraordinary lately, but if I do I'll let you know.

Quote from: icopress on June 10, 2022, 09:13:11 AM

What's more, I'm currently reviewing other campaign spreadsheets and adding names to my draft to send out invitations. I don't think there are many managers on the forum who care so much about the prestige of the campaign.

Kudos for the effort. Since you are on the lookout for a quality members, have you tried doing the same for lower ranked ones via The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days. Majority of names there are probably merit farmers, but there might a couple of genuine talents.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 10, 2022, 09:08:05 AM

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Actually, I make exceptions for such nuggets ... for example, for n0nce, when he was a full member, the designer created an individual signature. Also, if you know names that I should look out for, feel free to post them here. What's more, I'm currently reviewing other campaign spreadsheets and adding names to my draft to send out invitations. I don't think there are many managers on the forum who care so much about the prestige of the campaign.

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Quote from: icopress on June 09, 2022, 01:27:36 PM

So guys.

Within 24 hours I will announce a campaign that will last four weeks in test mode, (rather large and on behalf of a fairly well-known brand). I would like to hear from you guys what, in your opinion, the conditions of the campaign should be in order for it to be ideal. Please be objective because we live in the real world.

Looking at the rules of the campaign that you are already running, you covered almost every complain that I have when look at many other campaigns (no minimum quota, no forcing to write in certain boards etc) but one thing that I think would improve your next campaign is to open it for lower rank members too, more specifically Member and Full Member ranks.

I know that there are no many quality new members that are climbing up those lower ranks, but I am sure that there would be at least few good ones that you could get on board. You don't have to set up a specific quota on how many of those can join, but it wouldn't hurt to keep it open for them, just in case some hidden gem appears. Tbh, I am surprised that more campaigns are not allowing lower ranks, seeing how hard is to fill campaigns with quality high rank members.

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Quote from: icopress on June 09, 2022, 01:27:36 PM

So guys.

Within 24 hours I will announce a campaign that will last four weeks in test mode, (rather large and on behalf of a fairly well-known brand). I would like to hear from you guys what, in your opinion, the conditions of the campaign should be in order for it to be ideal. Please be objective because we live in the real world.

I ask because if we can build easy and trusting relationships from the very beginning, then the action will last for a long time.

Given that the brand would want its signatures to appear in boards of interest (I mean, you can't advertise a service that accepts only bitcoin in altcoins section) it's understandable if there were boards where post would or would not be counted, but It would be awesome if at least the accept weekly minimum post limit was low or no limit at all.

Most of the campaign requirements are pretty much ideal both for the participants and the clients.

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