📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝 - page 17.

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- write where you want (well, maybe with the reasonable exception of some sections, like off-topic, bounty section)
- total freedom for locals participants (some campaigns only accept English posts)
- no mandatory weekly quota for the minimum number of posts
- no mandatory posting in specific sections (as is often the case in gambling campaigns)
- the presence of both a full-fledged campaign (signature + avatar), and just an avatar campaign, recently there have already been 2 such campaigns, including yours, and this is a good option to attract additional good posters.

Damn, I thought you could add something! You just described the type of campaigns I run! Cool

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So guys.

Within 24 hours I will announce a campaign that will last four weeks in test mode, (rather large and on behalf of a fairly well-known brand). I would like to hear from you guys what, in your opinion, the conditions of the campaign should be in order for it to be ideal. Please be objective because we live in the real world.

I ask because if we can build easy and trusting relationships from the very beginning, then the action will last for a long time.

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Quote from: coupable on October 12, 2021, 06:16:55 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on October 12, 2021, 05:24:29 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on October 12, 2021, 05:06:06 PM

but their campaign isn't scam. Participants get paid for their posts. It's same like we had Yobit and some other services with bad reputation listed.
Users get red tag for joining campaign and I couldn't care less about it. Maybe they didn't knew about such penalty - but it's their fault. They have to make research before starting to advertise something.

The main point is that the folks behind 1xbit are scammers, so they should not get any sort of publicity at all. Anyone who has been around knows how much of a scam the casino is. Let's not try pretending like the mods that turn blind eyes to scam threads regardless of how many times they are posted.

We can make the decision not to publish their campaigns. It's not like members are tied up by the no scam moderation policy like the forum mods and admins.

I can't get your point here. If scams are not moderated by the forum, why you accuse mods that they turn blind eye to topics promoting scams? The only time i remember admins interfered was in Yobit signature campaign which had all participants had temporary signature ban but this was because The campaign set a strange rule of counting endless limit of posts and the campaign was paying per post basis; those who were banned had at least one report for one of the posts he mad while wearing Yobit campaign. I remember Yobit campaign hired manager Yahoo to run the campaign without any issues for all the users who joined it. Why it's not the same with 1xbit casino especially as the signature campaign isn't a scam itself ?

One argument might be that the 1xbit campaigns are not managed by a respected campaign manager or a forum member. They are run by the same person who promotes scam casino on the forum. They accept almost everyone into their campaign and don't care about the quality of the posts. It has been reported in multiple instances that they have accepted well-known spammers, shills, and scammers. So in the end, their campaigns negatively impact the entire forum community.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on October 12, 2021, 05:24:29 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on October 12, 2021, 05:06:06 PM

but their campaign isn't scam. Participants get paid for their posts. It's same like we had Yobit and some other services with bad reputation listed.
Users get red tag for joining campaign and I couldn't care less about it. Maybe they didn't knew about such penalty - but it's their fault. They have to make research before starting to advertise something.

The main point is that the folks behind 1xbit are scammers, so they should not get any sort of publicity at all. Anyone who has been around knows how much of a scam the casino is. Let's not try pretending like the mods that turn blind eyes to scam threads regardless of how many times they are posted.

We can make the decision not to publish their campaigns. It's not like members are tied up by the no scam moderation policy like the forum mods and admins.

I can't get your point here. If scams are not moderated by the forum, why you accuse mods that they turn blind eye to topics promoting scams? The only time i remember admins interfered was in Yobit signature campaign which had all participants had temporary signature ban but this was because The campaign set a strange rule of counting endless limit of posts and the campaign was paying per post basis; those who were banned had at least one report for one of the posts he mad while wearing Yobit campaign. I remember Yobit campaign hired manager Yahoo to run the campaign without any issues for all the users who joined it. Why it's not the same with 1xbit casino especially as the signature campaign isn't a scam itself ?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 12, 2021, 05:06:06 PM

Users get red tag for joining campaign and I couldn't care less about it. Maybe they didn't knew about such penalty - but it's their fault. They have to make research before starting to advertise something.

Users should need to be warned if there any risk to be tagged just because of joining in specific signature campaign.
I am judging by myself, I didn't always check deeply what kind of campaign it was. Especially if it's a solid campaign where there is great interest, so while I explore all the places are filled.
simply, some users read, only a certain part of the forum and are not up to date with all possible known problems. everyone deserves to correct a mistake.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 12, 2021, 05:06:06 PM

but their campaign isn't scam. Participants get paid for their posts. It's same like we had Yobit and some other services with bad reputation listed.
Users get red tag for joining campaign and I couldn't care less about it. Maybe they didn't knew about such penalty - but it's their fault. They have to make research before starting to advertise something.

The main point is that the folks behind 1xbit are scammers, so they should not get any sort of publicity at all. Anyone who has been around knows how much of a scam the casino is. Let's not try pretending like the mods that turn blind eyes to scam threads regardless of how many times they are posted.

We can make the decision not to publish their campaigns. It's not like members are tied up by the no scam moderation policy like the forum mods and admins.

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Continuing the discussion from the main thread about the new 1xbit campaign...

Quote from: coupable on October 12, 2021, 04:32:21 PM

Do you really think it's worth adding to OP list of honest campaign ?

Since the campaign was set to last only a week, I wouldn't include it on the list. This will only help a scam casino to continue their dishonest behavior toward the community.
I pity those who unknowingly submit their applications there, as they will surely get a negative tag right away.

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Quote from: coupable on October 12, 2021, 04:32:21 PM

Yes this is right, it is not even a particularly high payout. Then why those poor risk their reputation in such a fraudster campaign? I can't think that they all don't know about 1xbit reputation or how to use the forum.
As anyone joining the campaign got tagged by just joining the campaign, the manager has no option but to accept those users. I don't know if he accepts users tagged from other accusations.
When i see some of them have no trade activity and their trust page is neutreul but for the negative feedback they received from joining 1xbit signature campaign, i can conclude how much ignorance plays important role for those poor users.
Do you really think it's worth adding to OP list of honest campaign ?

I don't like 1xbit at all, but I don't see reasons why their campaign shouldn't be listed. We all know how bad their reputation is, but their campaign isn't scam. Participants get paid for their posts. It's same like we had Yobit and some other services with bad reputation listed.
Users get red tag for joining campaign and I couldn't care less about it. Maybe they didn't knew about such penalty - but it's their fault. They have to make research before starting to advertise something.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on September 07, 2021, 02:13:47 PM

There is some confusion about the Stake.com Signature Campaign. The BM changed the Thread to [FULL], but it still says there are two available slots.

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291820.160

[FULL]Stake.com Signature Campaign l 2 Spots Open

I guess the remaining slots were filled.

Responding @bullrun here instead of the official topic:
There were 2 spots announced then it was increased to 5 but apparently only 2 were eligible and they joined the campaign, so I assume the title was modified to FULL without removing 2 available slots.
I will contact OP about this.

Edit: Stake campaign title fixed. Thanks for pointing this out

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I always wondered if anyone had ever done an analysis of the effect of a signature campaign. yes, some brands have definitely become much more recognizable because of sig. campaign, these are mostly those campaigns that have lasted or last for a long period.
I've seen a lot of campaigns that last only a couple of weeks or less, whether it is possible to make some results in such a short time? especially if we know that most influential posters have already been in long therm campaign, it is probably quite difficult to find quality-visible posters for a two-week campaign.

I would really like to see an honest experience of the signature campaigns from the owner or campaign managers. What are the effects and what improvement of business has resulted from it?

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Quote from: pealr12 on August 05, 2021, 10:30:59 PM

It is not selling, it is called verification which anyone who have nothing to hide should do without having any problem regardless of online or offline work, you just saying this for the sake of it, tell me what is the difference between the kyc done online and offline? Your information is still in the hands of unknown people, besides people freely display their pic on Facebook and twitter which to me is more dangerous than some few information about name, age and address (this can be easily changed depending on your location)
You verify your identity all the time whenever you use any offline services, schools, hospitals, workplace etc, to me they appears same, but each to their opinion.

I think that it's not correct to compare KYC verification and identity verification on government institutions or workplace.
I'm actually talking about cases when people are looking for websites which pay for registration and verification - various online banks, crypto exchanges and etc. People give all their personal data with easy hand for few bucks. And there is no guarantee that they will sell your data to third party with bad intentions or it simply may be hacked and sold on dark web or websites like Raidforums. How likely that such thing with your data will happen in hospital for example.
Having your profile picture on social media is something dangerous because it's not secret information. But if you put whole your life into social media, it can make you into target of people with bad intentions. Especially if you live fancy.
Sorry if I went a bit off-topic, but I think it's still related with KYC on campaigns, even if question is already solved

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Quote from: FatFork on August 05, 2021, 05:33:54 PM

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The point here is that right now there are many users available to rent your space. And there haven't been many new campaigns, and the campaigns that pay better hardly have new openings.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 15, 2021, 02:34:24 PM

I think it's good idea to open discussion topic and keep Overview thread for updates only.
About KYC to get payment from campaign - personally I would never joing signature campaign which would require KYC in order to get paid. But if some people are fine with such rules, then it's OK. I saw that some people are ready to sell their sensitive private data for much less money. But it's good to read kardiachain campaign decided to change rules for payment after getting negative opinion from community.

It is not selling, it is called verification which anyone who have nothing to hide should do without having any problem regardless of online or offline work, you just saying this for the sake of it, tell me what is the difference between the kyc done online and offline? Your information is still in the hands of unknown people, besides people freely display their pic on Facebook and twitter which to me is more dangerous than some few information about name, age and address (this can be easily changed depending on your location)
You verify your identity all the time whenever you use any offline services, schools, hospitals, workplace etc, to me they appears same, but each to their opinion.

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Quote from: snipie on August 05, 2021, 01:34:11 PM

Now for 777 campaign, we all know how old it is and the structure of payments there. People joining there know well what they are doing so personally I will not criticise the campaign.

777Coin i Bitvest campaigns deserve the utmost respect for their longevity, no doubt about it. Regarding the tier-based payment system, I have my reservations, but that wasn't the point of my remark.

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You are wrong to call this campaign the worst paid. The forum has much lower pay per week than 777Coin.

Ratimov, I appreciate your opinion, but I think you misunderstood what I meant. I was referring to the payment per post, not the total possible earnings.

I compiled a short list of the currently active signature campaigns to put things in perspective. To simplify comparisons, I only included Legendary member payments.

Campaign	posts	payout	pay per post
777Coin (Tier D)	60	$15.6	0.26
777Coin (median)	60	$24.6	0.41
Arcona.Space	20	$20	1.00
CoinDragon	20	$20	1.00
BestChange	25	$100	4.00
Betcoin.ag	20	$50	2.50
ChipMixer	50	$300	6.00
Chips.gg	20	$60	3.00
Crypto.Games	25	$75	3.00
Duelbits	20	$60	3.00
Freebitco.in	25	$75	3.00
OWNR Wallet	20	$50	2.50
Playbetr	20	$50	2.50
Rollbit	25	$80	3.20
Roobet	15	$60	4.00
Stake.com	25	$56	2.25
Xive.io	25	$40	1.60

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Quote from: icopress on August 05, 2021, 11:54:17 AM

Quote from: bL4nkcode on August 05, 2021, 11:45:47 AM

I bet you can talk this concern on this thread instead here to avoid unnecessary discussions as per the local rules Re: [Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns

My 2 cents ... I bet that FatFork's answer was more appropriate than yours, since his message is "on the topic" with the only difference that he added a small comment, while your rebuke is already creating a flood. So if you're really worried about the cleanliness of the thread, PM or up the discussion thread. Wink

It needs only one off topic reply or sentence in the Overview topic to start a wave of off topic posts regardless how relevant they are. Dunno if Mitchell will delete them or not but it would be better to move them here.
Now for 777 campaign, we all know how old it is and the structure of payments there. People joining there know well what they are doing so personally I will not criticise the campaign.

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Quote from: icopress on August 05, 2021, 11:54:17 AM

My 2 cents ... I bet that FatFork's answer was more appropriate than yours, since his message is "on the topic" with the only difference that he added a small comment, while your rebuke is already creating a flood. So if you're really worried about the cleanliness of the thread, PM or up the discussion thread. Wink

One of the local rules

Quote from: Mitchell on May 19, 2014, 09:30:31 AM

Discussion about campaigns are strictly forbidden (unless it's really relevant, which in 99% of the cases, it isn't).

And I'm talking on the quoted post not the total post of him though.

Welp, (I guess) its okay to post there, it will be deleted soon as well but could be better if it just bring the whole discussion on this thread same thing like you did to notify me here, didn't thought that.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on August 05, 2021, 11:45:47 AM

I bet you can talk this concern on this thread instead here to avoid unnecessary discussions as per the local rules Re: [Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns

My 2 cents ... I bet that FatFork's answer was more appropriate than yours, since his message is "on the topic" with the only difference that he added a small comment, while your rebuke is already creating a flood. So if you're really worried about the cleanliness of the thread, PM or up the discussion thread. Wink

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Quote from: snipie on July 22, 2021, 05:52:04 PM

Imagine the campaign was managed by a newbie or unknown manager, will it be listed? without a warning at least? Can we ensure campaign participants that they will not receive negative trust in the future?

Hmm, I believe this is entirely possible, since there are no experienced managers here, they can choose other people who register themselves with them, in this case, the signature campaign will definitely begin, and the manager certainly won't care about the reputation level. In this case, I think the posters themselves have to judge for themselves whether they are participating in the safe campaign or not, this is necessary, because they participate to make money, they cannot say a irresponsible way that they don't know they are promoting a scam platform Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ABCbits on July 22, 2021, 04:21:15 AM

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Quote from: snipie on July 17, 2021, 02:38:48 PM

Signature campaign name: Xive.io
Overview topic link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-signature-ad-campaigns-last-update-01-jan-23-615953
Signature campaign link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xiveio-signature-and-avatar-campaignclosed-5349727
Problem (title): "Cloud" mining service detected!
Problem (discussion):
Well I don't know if you have the same itching that I have when I see some cloud mining service popping up. I don't have a problem with the campaign itself since it is managed by yahoo which is a reputable member but with the lack of information I got trying to figure out details and reviews about the service. I didn't find also a topic here about it, if anyone could find it, you can share it with us. Basically you can buy a contract from many options provided, cheaper ones for less than 7 days are sold out and the others start from +$400 for 1-2 years.. Site created 3 years ago? Service is in Kazakhstan? Should it be trusted? Should members here support a cloud mining service and wear its signature? I am raising a red flag until I have a clearer vision of the situation..

Their website is about 3 years old. There are a lot of red flags on their website. They don't appear to have any presence on bitcointalk, but appear to occasionally market themselves here.

I posted in the sig campaign thread, asking yahoo about his due diligence, but he has yet to respond.

Using criteria from ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁, there are few red flags. But i would advice strong precaution.

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.
No?. Looks like you can choose any mining pool, but i can't verify it without buying/rent something.

2) No endorsement from any asic vendor
Yes.

If they have hundreds of miners from bitmain, I would think bitmain would have announced some kind of partnership. Also, they were previously quoting specific dates that mining contracts would start, but I don't think bitmain was shipping miners at a pace with that level of precision.

Quote from: ABCbits on July 22, 2021, 04:21:15 AM

3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter
Yes? There's no relevant image found using this keyword on Google/DDG image search.

Code:

site:xive.io

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reverse mining risk
No, there's limit of available ASIC/contract.

You don't actually know this. Their site says there is a limit, however you don't know if they are actually updating the number of available miners when someone purchases a contract.

Quote from: ABCbits on July 22, 2021, 04:21:15 AM

Bonus point for "guaranteed profit"
No. All i can find is Bitcoin Mining Profitability Calculator.

The prices they are offering appear to be below market. I would expect a legitimate cloud mining company to be charing a markup. There is a global chip shortage right now, so existing hardware should be sold at a premium.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 21, 2021, 05:18:22 PM

Quote from: snipie on July 17, 2021, 02:38:48 PM

Well I don't know if you have the same itching that I have when I see some cloud mining service popping up.

Just wanted to confirm that this really exists? I don't think there are any cloud mining platforms that are practically profitable, as far as I know, all of them are just scams for newbies who don't have a lot of knowledge, am I wrong? And yes, I get really annoyed when I see some people talking about how they can make money through cloud mining. And with cloud mining being a scam, I believe this campaign should be countered Huh

The campaign is currently listed in the table in PNYC. Of course there isn't any reason to not list it just like 1xbit..
Cloud mining is a pure scam and not sustainable business, I just remember one "company" posting its miners (Genesis) few years ago and AFAIK the amount earned is extremely low comparing to the contracts and the ridiculous fees. ROI required months/+1 year if I am not mistaken! Their topic is no longer updated here BTW and there is scam accusations against them.
If they have enough money to run a mining farm and mining is profitable for them, why would they share revenue with us? Assuming there is a legit cloud mining service then the purpose of contracts is to finance new units, repair old ones, paying for electricity for them...in exchange we get few cents at the end of the day, no thanks!
I warned about cloud mining several times here and IRL. Imagine the campaign was managed by a newbie or unknown manager, will it be listed? without a warning at least? Can we ensure campaign participants that they will not receive negative trust in the future?

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