Topic: Do I really have to pay taxes on crypto investments? - page 6. (Read 2482 times)

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 04:31:59 AM

Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

Because people are weak and prone to emotions, and the factor of personal enrichment has not been canceled. For some reason, I’m sure that if we consider the data obtained independently, for example from sensors, they will give a much clearer picture than the data collected by a person.

you do realize that all this technology you are talknng about was built by people and will be controlled by them in the future?

still... if you try to build an algorithm, for example for the construction of a power plant, the solutions will be much clearer if you calculate them with a machine, starting with the design documentation and choosing a place - ending with the functioning of this complex. Of course, here you can allow the society to participate in the discussion, but why? If the AI is quite capable of seeing the risks and providing work.

in fact, you are right. the interaction of different countries with AI becomes more popular evry year. Any of the algorithms becomes self-learning, which means that the machine will be able to see the cycle and make a decision. But, as I would not like to see a completely “digitized” world where the machine makes decisions - I believe that there are very few other options, because people will not change, and most of the template work can be performed by the machine, with much greater efficiency and without human factors .

artificial intelligence and machine data processing do not have the main thing: common sense and human ethics. In self-learning, artificial intelligence cannot know where effectiveness will begin to go agains ethics and common sense. Therefore, with all the advantages, it also has disadvantages.

If we start a conversation about ethics, then at the end we will come to the definition of "good and evil", "morality" and other terms that have nothing to do with reality, and exist only for philosophical conversations, with a cup of coffee. And yes, in a critical situation, for example, if it can save a child’s life, any person will push all his ethical and moral standards to the level that will fit this situation. Therefore, I do not see anything wrong with this part if the machine determines such situations.

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Quote from: webtaxi on June 16, 2020, 04:24:20 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 04:21:57 AM

Quote from: webtaxi on June 16, 2020, 04:24:20 AM

Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

Because people are weak and prone to emotions, and the factor of personal enrichment has not been canceled. For some reason, I’m sure that if we consider the data obtained independently, for example from sensors, they will give a much clearer picture than the data collected by a person.

you do realize that all this technology you are talknng about was built by people and will be controlled by them in the future?

still... if you try to build an algorithm, for example for the construction of a power plant, the solutions will be much clearer if you calculate them with a machine, starting with the design documentation and choosing a place - ending with the functioning of this complex. Of course, here you can allow the society to participate in the discussion, but why? If the AI is quite capable of seeing the risks and providing work.

in fact, you are right. the interaction of different countries with AI becomes more popular evry year. Any of the algorithms becomes self-learning, which means that the machine will be able to see the cycle and make a decision. But, as I would not like to see a completely “digitized” world where the machine makes decisions - I believe that there are very few other options, because people will not change, and most of the template work can be performed by the machine, with much greater efficiency and without human factors .

artificial intelligence and machine data processing do not have the main thing: common sense and human ethics. In self-learning, artificial intelligence cannot know where effectiveness will begin to go agains ethics and common sense. Therefore, with all the advantages, it also has disadvantages.

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Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 04:21:57 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 04:21:57 AM

Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

Because people are weak and prone to emotions, and the factor of personal enrichment has not been canceled. For some reason, I’m sure that if we consider the data obtained independently, for example from sensors, they will give a much clearer picture than the data collected by a person.

you do realize that all this technology you are talknng about was built by people and will be controlled by them in the future?

still... if you try to build an algorithm, for example for the construction of a power plant, the solutions will be much clearer if you calculate them with a machine, starting with the design documentation and choosing a place - ending with the functioning of this complex. Of course, here you can allow the society to participate in the discussion, but why? If the AI is quite capable of seeing the risks and providing work.

in fact, you are right. the interaction of different countries with AI becomes more popular evry year. Any of the algorithms becomes self-learning, which means that the machine will be able to see the cycle and make a decision. But, as I would not like to see a completely “digitized” world where the machine makes decisions - I believe that there are very few other options, because people will not change, and most of the template work can be performed by the machine, with much greater efficiency and without human factors .

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Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

Because people are weak and prone to emotions, and the factor of personal enrichment has not been canceled. For some reason, I’m sure that if we consider the data obtained independently, for example from sensors, they will give a much clearer picture than the data collected by a person.

you do realize that all this technology you are talknng about was built by people and will be controlled by them in the future?

still... if you try to build an algorithm, for example for the construction of a power plant, the solutions will be much clearer if you calculate them with a machine, starting with the design documentation and choosing a place - ending with the functioning of this complex. Of course, here you can allow the society to participate in the discussion, but why? If the AI is quite capable of seeing the risks and providing work.

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Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

Because people are weak and prone to emotions, and the factor of personal enrichment has not been canceled. For some reason, I’m sure that if we consider the data obtained independently, for example from sensors, they will give a much clearer picture than the data collected by a person.

you do realize that all this technology you are talknng about was built by people and will be controlled by them in the future?

webtaxi

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Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

Because people are weak and prone to emotions, and the factor of personal enrichment has not been canceled. For some reason, I’m sure that if we consider the data obtained independently, for example from sensors, they will give a much clearer picture than the data collected by a person.

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Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

I don't see how technology is better than humans.

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Quote from: rnold142 on June 16, 2020, 04:03:16 AM

Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

you understand correctly. the thing is to find a way of eliminating human mistakes which is the reason for all the crises in the world. and technology is quite capable of doing that.

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Just entered the forum and seeing this discussion Ive realized that Bitcoin and AI might be our future.

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Quote from: webtaxi on June 16, 2020, 04:00:21 AM

Complete transparency can only be done with full decentralization, otherwise someone will control this process. And if the conversation is about such a decision - then neither a person, nor a group of people - should allocate these powers.

The structure of society is rather complicated; there are never too many passionaries, but it is them who move the whole society in one direction or another. No matter how many people were hiding behind the nickname Satoshi Nakamoto, there were few (maybe one) who accepted Bitcoin’s idea right away, also, but gradually this idea took hold of the masses.

The meaning of transparency is not that everyone controls everything. It is enough to have such an opportunity. Most people do not know closely how electricity flows through the wires, but most of the inhabitants of our planet use electric light. It’s enough that it works. So it is with public control: it does not require universality, it does not work like that. If I had to assemble a power station, a computer myself, smelting ore for this, create plastics ... it is clear that nothing would have happened. In public areas, delegation is no less meaningful.

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Quote from: webtaxi on June 16, 2020, 04:00:21 AM

Complete transparency can only be done with full decentralization, otherwise someone will control this process. And if the conversation is about such a decision - then neither a person, nor a group of people - should allocate these powers.

The structure of society is rather complicated; there are never too many passionaries, but it is them who move the whole society in one direction or another. No matter how many people were hiding behind the nickname Satoshi Nakamoto, there were few (maybe one) who accepted Bitcoin’s idea right away, also, but gradually this idea took hold of the masses.

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Complete transparency can only be done with full decentralization, otherwise someone will control this process. And if the conversation is about such a decision - then neither a person, nor a group of people - should allocate these powers.

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Quote from: rnold142 on June 16, 2020, 03:53:55 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 03:50:50 AM

Quote from: rnold142 on June 16, 2020, 03:47:22 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 03:44:44 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 03:50:50 AM

I do not believe in "public control", because many will not need it, and the rest will choose their representatives, who will also be people, with all human qualities, emotions and self-interest, including. And what will be the result? The same system, only with AI.

are you saying that a “country” as an institution will soon disappear?

yes, and I love that idea. no president, no deputies and politicians. just AI and and police that will serve for the good of people.

your idea gives me shivers. its another Black Mirror episode and not a utopy for humanity. A computer is a tool; I would not want to live in a world where this tool is absolute.

ohh no, sure, but, China, North Korea and Uganda are utopies? With AI at charge there would be no dictators and etc.

this is still far away in the future. you know, cyber-future.

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Quote from: rnold142 on June 16, 2020, 03:47:22 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 03:44:44 AM

Quote from: rnold142 on June 16, 2020, 03:47:22 AM

I do not believe in "public control", because many will not need it, and the rest will choose their representatives, who will also be people, with all human qualities, emotions and self-interest, including. And what will be the result? The same system, only with AI.

are you saying that a “country” as an institution will soon disappear?

yes, and I love that idea. no president, no deputies and politicians. just AI and and police that will serve for the good of people.

your idea gives me shivers. its another Black Mirror episode and not a utopy for humanity. A computer is a tool; I would not want to live in a world where this tool is absolute.

ohh no, sure, but, China, North Korea and Uganda are utopies? With AI at charge there would be no dictators and etc.

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Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 03:44:44 AM

Quote from: altcoinman on June 16, 2020, 03:44:44 AM

I do not believe in "public control", because many will not need it, and the rest will choose their representatives, who will also be people, with all human qualities, emotions and self-interest, including. And what will be the result? The same system, only with AI.

are you saying that a “country” as an institution will soon disappear?

yes, and I love that idea. no president, no deputies and politicians. just AI and and police that will serve for the good of people.

your idea gives me shivers. its another Black Mirror episode and not a utopy for humanity. A computer is a tool; I would not want to live in a world where this tool is absolute.

rnold142

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I do not believe in "public control", because many will not need it, and the rest will choose their representatives, who will also be people, with all human qualities, emotions and self-interest, including. And what will be the result? The same system, only with AI.

are you saying that a “country” as an institution will soon disappear?

yes, and I love that idea. no president, no deputies and politicians. just AI and and police that will serve for the good of people.

altcoinman

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