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A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.

Gamblers who are addicted won't really be contented when they have already won. It will just make them crave for more because they aren't satisfied with one time winning and is aiming for a consecutive win regardless how risky it may be. Additionally, if they have a debt to pay, it will make them think that the winning prize they have isn't enough. It will just become a small amount after they have paid what they just borrowed so it will make them chase winnings to fulfill the amount they really desire and to cover their other expenses. They won't care much whether they will stake more. Which will make their funds at risk. So instead of taking home some winnings, some even ended up having nothing or additional debt on their name.

I always ask myself why people aren't stopping after they won a decent amount in gambling. To a certain extent I can understand that a win might only feel like a small win and it would be nice to turn it into a bigger win instead. But we always face the risk of losing our win and worst case maybe even turn that into a loss. Especially when borrowed money is involved the stakes are much higher and any loss will double has hard, because we not only have a lower bankroll but also have to repay the loan we took out. Which is why I wouldn't use any borrowed money for gambling. The risk is just too high and it's not going to end well in many cases.
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Thanks for bringing this up OP, tbh the problem most of us think gambling is easy when that's far from the truth, and to make matters worse gambling using debt money puts pressure on you and you don't get to play freely which makes it a whole recipe for disaster!!!

If you have to gamble, gamble with money that will let you play with a free mind and no pressure on your shoulders and don't mind losing should it not go your way...let debt money  go to doing  some constructive stuff, end of story..

Usually people who have the thought "gambling is easy / winning is easy" are those who come without the right understanding, and it is mostly in the mindset and point of view of beginners who have just come based on the victories that others have managed to get which certainly makes them feel motivated to get involved and hope to get the same fate, and also on the other hand this thinking can occur to those who have just got their first win in their gambling activities, especially if the amount is large, this will make them feel great, even though on the other hand the real fact is that at that time luck was accompanying them. With a high level of confidence and trust that makes them like to justify all means just for the sake of getting money to gamble, making loans for gambling is like a natural thing for them because they believe that there will be a return that is much greater than the victory, even though all of that is still uncertain and only limited to opportunities until finally over time if they do not change their mindset then obviously they will suffer a lot of extraordinary pressure due to making loans as gambling capital.

Obviously, if you want to get calm and want to enjoy the gambling you do then there is no other way but to only put small amounts, essentially the amount you can afford to lose at the end of the session, basically having the right understanding in the approach you take to gambling will be able to make you feel safe and comfortable.
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There is something I believe concerning loaning. If you take loan from anyone, you are indirectly the servant of that person. Aside gambling this thought has always help me to stay contented even if I need it, I prefer to just wait until I have the money to do what I crave doing except in cases of emergencies. Take for example, the loan offer in this forum. Once you are being given a loan your forum account would be held as coleteral  and untill you pay back, you'll keeping having that neutral tag.
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I value you sharing your own story of becoming addicted to gambling. Extreme gambling can lead to a lot of problems, and this is a stark warning of both. I agree with your advice that people shouldn't take gambling too seriously and should never use a loan to bet. Be careful when you gamble, and know your limits to avoid losing money or your relationship. By being honest, you've given others an important lesson in how to gamble responsibly. It's great that you want to raise knowledge about the risks, and I hope your situation gets better over time.

Even if we advice them to don't take gambling seriously, there's an instances that they will not follow this advices of us because they are busy doing gambling and they have experienced winning so one of the things they expect in gambling is winning and gaining profit. we really don't know what will gambling affect people's mindset because sometimes even the most serious and responsible person became addicted in gambling.





When it is the case of addicted people, their biggest problem is Always money, there is no other option, a person is addicted only because things are not given to him and also for the pleasure of playing and playing all day, What happens is that when you have that taste, things can change a lot, if there is no self-control, especially with money, things can go wrong and that is what happens mostly in people who are Addicted , once that they run out of money , because they look for a way to have more money and be able to play, that is already a way of being Addicted , because even so when there is no money they look for selling their things to have money and go play, and that It is when there is no control over their finances, and the truth is that they do not care about giving up their belongings to achieve what they want, I personally think that when a person is becoming addicted they have to attack it quickly.

There are people who when they lose control because they are not able to get out of that hole in the world and fall, that's why when I see that there are possible signs in people who are becoming addicted and I know them I try to Alert them , because it is very bad When they fall into addiction, because they only lose all their money, some lose their credit life, some lose friends, they get into debt and sometimes people sometimes also lose their family, and that is something that should not be allowed, so in In this order of things , things can happen like this, otherwise you have to seek professional help immediately before it happens to adults, usually things happen that way and you can't find help quickly because people can even kill themselves, How many have not fallen into those thoughts, because they have not been able to get out of where they are ? For many , this is something that we must always consider, and avoiding a major problem will always be for intelligent people, which is why Being in a casino is a Great Responsibility.
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However, if an addicted gambler conducts gambling on borrowed money in the same way one gambles with borrowed money, there is a high chance of losing.
Never knew someone like that, but the difference is that he made a loan to his own friend with a large enough amount with the guarantee of the vehicle he had.
No one knows if the borrowed money was used to gamble, and in the end he lost because he was an addict.
The addict will only gamble until it runs out and end up losing because there is no control and a definite goal, he is just wasting money.

He had a loan to repay, but he couldn't pay a penny.
This is an estrangement between his friends, and until now the debt has not been paid off.
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To be honest, I have also been in your situation but not as bad as you, because I didn't borrow money to gamble, I spent all my savings and at that time I was really frustrated
This is OP's cautionary post. Many people might do something like this by mistake which he realizes and for this he created the thread so that no one else does such a thing. If gambling with his own money there is profit or loss on his own but when one conducts gambling with borrowed money he himself incurs debt as well as the effect on the nearest others. Loans are usually taken for investment purposes but if one dares to gamble with borrowed money, he is sure to be in debt. Many may have different reasons. Many people may have money but can't manage it at the right time but instead if they have a reliable income to pay that money and can take a loan. However, if an addicted gambler conducts gambling on borrowed money in the same way one gambles with borrowed money, there is a high chance of losing.
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Being in debt is stressful, people who owe money and are having a hassle paying back the debt, find it hard to concentrate in their endeavors. Gamblers, out of the stress and anxiety, would want to recover the lost money, hence they'll be able to payback. But due to the expenses in a man's daily activities, when the player wins, he'll find it hard to pay his debt. As he may have accumulated series of debts from different people and organizations. Gambling with loan is wrong. One needs to be sure of his moves before taking loan. Despite that it's not advisable to rely on loan in any activity we want to venture into. The addicted players may have gotten addicted to taking loan such that they will rarely gamble using their own money. The finances used for gambling now revolves around borrowed money.

Yes, sometimes we go into debt for something that is needed for the necessities of life alone makes us feel uncomfortable, especially if we make loans as an alternative to gambling when we run out of money then obviously this has the potential for new, worse habits and also the potential for much worse impacts to occur. Therefore, never try to take out a loan just to gamble, the fear is that you can get into the habit of doing that especially when you get a lot of losses in each session which of course later you will enter the scenario of borrowing money to chase the win and get the winnings to pay off debts, this scenario will never be completed and this is the beginning of someone who will fall into debt in the end. As you said earlier that if you take a loan because of an urgent situation for other things such as your life needs I think it's normal because that's one of the benefits of why there is a loan, but if you borrow only for something that never has certainty and guarantee for a return such as gambling then obviously it is a ridiculous action and decision, only one thing to worry about is that you can experience debt problems that can make you depressed.

A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.
A gambler who tries more to recover the loses he may lose more in gambling. When a gambler loses all his money he will want to take a loan to recover that money. In gambling a tendency I find among gamblers that is when gamblers win gambling with borrowed money they try to recover more with that borrowed money instead of paying. Later when he lost he regretted that he would have been better if he paid the borrowed money. I loaned money to a gambler I knew who treated me like this and after getting the experience I vowed never to lend money to gamblers.
The cycle of a gambler never ends, and as you guys mentioned, borrowing money to gamble can put a person in a debt cycle since losses can mount up and become impossible to recover. We can't stop them from their habits until we refuse to lend them money ourselves; perhaps that's the best way to help them feel better and consider what it is they're doing that we find inappropriate.
Additionally, it can strain relationships. For example, if a gambler borrows money from friends or family without disclosing to them that it was used for a potentially harmful habit, those people may feel deceived or frustrated.
Some individuals may struggle with trust issues related to a habitually dependent gambler, which makes it more difficult for others to accept payback pledges.  I mean those gamblers, they are the ones who will cause issues for themselves, therefore they really require some advice from experts.
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Thanks for bringing this up OP, tbh the problem most of us think gambling is easy when that's far from the truth, and to make matters worse gambling using debt money puts pressure on you and you don't get to play freely which makes it a whole recipe for disaster!!!

If you have to gamble, gamble with money that will let you play with a free mind and no pressure on your shoulders and don't mind losing should it not go your way...let debt money  go to doing  some constructive stuff, end of story..

Nice advise, it's something bad to see someone going that length in taking a loan all because of gambling, the problem and what is at stake is not about taking the loan this time, but what the loan is being used for, some people will just see problem sitting down on it's own and they will prefer waking it to their own cause, this is how many get themselves into troubles when they engage in doing something beyond they could afford to cope with.
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You shouldn't gamble what you cant afford to lose. It stinks but is a good lesson to learn, so hopefully you don't make the same mistake twice.
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Thanks for bringing this up OP, tbh the problem most of us think gambling is easy when that's far from the truth, and to make matters worse gambling using debt money puts pressure on you and you don't get to play freely which makes it a whole recipe for disaster!!!

If you have to gamble, gamble with money that will let you play with a free mind and no pressure on your shoulders and don't mind losing should it not go your way...let debt money  go to doing  some constructive stuff, end of story..

To be honest, I have also been in your situation but not as bad as you, because I didn't borrow money to gamble, I spent all my savings and at that time I was really frustrated
Happens to many, just hope you got yourself out of this debt trap mate Smiley

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A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.

Gamblers who are addicted won't really be contented when they have already won. It will just make them crave for more because they aren't satisfied with one time winning and is aiming for a consecutive win regardless how risky it may be. Additionally, if they have a debt to pay, it will make them think that the winning prize they have isn't enough. It will just become a small amount after they have paid what they just borrowed so it will make them chase winnings to fulfill the amount they really desire and to cover their other expenses. They won't care much whether they will stake more. Which will make their funds at risk. So instead of taking home some winnings, some even ended up having nothing or additional debt on their name.
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To be honest, I have also been in your situation but not as bad as you, because I didn't borrow money to gamble, I spent all my savings and at that time I was really frustrated
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Being in debt is stressful, people who owe money and are having a hassle paying back the debt, find it hard to concentrate in their endeavors. Gamblers, out of the stress and anxiety, would want to recover the lost money, hence they'll be able to payback. But due to the expenses in a man's daily activities, when the player wins, he'll find it hard to pay his debt. As he may have accumulated series of debts from different people and organizations. Gambling with loan is wrong. One needs to be sure of his moves before taking loan. Despite that it's not advisable to rely on loan in any activity we want to venture into. The addicted players may have gotten addicted to taking loan such that they will rarely gamble using their own money. The finances used for gambling now revolves around borrowed money.

Yes, sometimes we go into debt for something that is needed for the necessities of life alone makes us feel uncomfortable, especially if we make loans as an alternative to gambling when we run out of money then obviously this has the potential for new, worse habits and also the potential for much worse impacts to occur. Therefore, never try to take out a loan just to gamble, the fear is that you can get into the habit of doing that especially when you get a lot of losses in each session which of course later you will enter the scenario of borrowing money to chase the win and get the winnings to pay off debts, this scenario will never be completed and this is the beginning of someone who will fall into debt in the end. As you said earlier that if you take a loan because of an urgent situation for other things such as your life needs I think it's normal because that's one of the benefits of why there is a loan, but if you borrow only for something that never has certainty and guarantee for a return such as gambling then obviously it is a ridiculous action and decision, only one thing to worry about is that you can experience debt problems that can make you depressed.

A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.
A gambler who tries more to recover the loses he may lose more in gambling. When a gambler loses all his money he will want to take a loan to recover that money. In gambling a tendency I find among gamblers that is when gamblers win gambling with borrowed money they try to recover more with that borrowed money instead of paying. Later when he lost he regretted that he would have been better if he paid the borrowed money. I loaned money to a gambler I knew who treated me like this and after getting the experience I vowed never to lend money to gamblers.
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Being in debt is stressful, people who owe money and are having a hassle paying back the debt, find it hard to concentrate in their endeavors. Gamblers, out of the stress and anxiety, would want to recover the lost money, hence they'll be able to payback. But due to the expenses in a man's daily activities, when the player wins, he'll find it hard to pay his debt. As he may have accumulated series of debts from different people and organizations. Gambling with loan is wrong. One needs to be sure of his moves before taking loan. Despite that it's not advisable to rely on loan in any activity we want to venture into. The addicted players may have gotten addicted to taking loan such that they will rarely gamble using their own money. The finances used for gambling now revolves around borrowed money.

Yes, sometimes we go into debt for something that is needed for the necessities of life alone makes us feel uncomfortable, especially if we make loans as an alternative to gambling when we run out of money then obviously this has the potential for new, worse habits and also the potential for much worse impacts to occur. Therefore, never try to take out a loan just to gamble, the fear is that you can get into the habit of doing that especially when you get a lot of losses in each session which of course later you will enter the scenario of borrowing money to chase the win and get the winnings to pay off debts, this scenario will never be completed and this is the beginning of someone who will fall into debt in the end. As you said earlier that if you take a loan because of an urgent situation for other things such as your life needs I think it's normal because that's one of the benefits of why there is a loan, but if you borrow only for something that never has certainty and guarantee for a return such as gambling then obviously it is a ridiculous action and decision, only one thing to worry about is that you can experience debt problems that can make you depressed.

A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.
Gambling is not what will trigger someone to go debt if really the gambler is a calculative gambler in normal sense we are not supposed to put ourselves into debts because of gambling, because gambling will continue to move on whereas you will be at one corner to make sure you have repay all your debts, that is while I do emphasise much in someone having statistics of its gambling yearly or annually, theirs some certain that we need to understand concerning gambling when you think that you will win gambling is not the right time you can win gambling.
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A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.

The loan to the gamblers in two ways,one is the gambler get the money to play the gambling game after the loss.To recover the loss from the gambling site,the gambler will try to short the loss using the loan money.Second loan is like to manage the loss in the gambling site,in this the gamblers may use the important money in the gambling site.To manage the important expenses the gamblers will take the loan from their close friends to manage the loss.At the last the gamblers may get into the loan after the loss in the gambling site.So he need to pay the loan,if they loss money in the game of recovering their loss in gambling site.
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Being in debt is stressful, people who owe money and are having a hassle paying back the debt, find it hard to concentrate in their endeavors. Gamblers, out of the stress and anxiety, would want to recover the lost money, hence they'll be able to payback. But due to the expenses in a man's daily activities, when the player wins, he'll find it hard to pay his debt. As he may have accumulated series of debts from different people and organizations. Gambling with loan is wrong. One needs to be sure of his moves before taking loan. Despite that it's not advisable to rely on loan in any activity we want to venture into. The addicted players may have gotten addicted to taking loan such that they will rarely gamble using their own money. The finances used for gambling now revolves around borrowed money.

Yes, sometimes we go into debt for something that is needed for the necessities of life alone makes us feel uncomfortable, especially if we make loans as an alternative to gambling when we run out of money then obviously this has the potential for new, worse habits and also the potential for much worse impacts to occur. Therefore, never try to take out a loan just to gamble, the fear is that you can get into the habit of doing that especially when you get a lot of losses in each session which of course later you will enter the scenario of borrowing money to chase the win and get the winnings to pay off debts, this scenario will never be completed and this is the beginning of someone who will fall into debt in the end. As you said earlier that if you take a loan because of an urgent situation for other things such as your life needs I think it's normal because that's one of the benefits of why there is a loan, but if you borrow only for something that never has certainty and guarantee for a return such as gambling then obviously it is a ridiculous action and decision, only one thing to worry about is that you can experience debt problems that can make you depressed.

A gambler in debt doesn't have a complete fun after winning, because he'd feel he'd have to refund the won money back to the person he's owing. Along the line, he'd be getting different thoughts on what to do with the money, whether to gamble some more or just clear his debt. Paying back leaves the player broke again, hence he'd definitely gamble again to recover enough money to clear his debt and have remaining money. If the outcome doesn't equate the amount the gambler is looking to gain, he's most likely going to borrow some money again to meet his goals, while in debt. All the trouble he'd go through, can make the player depressed in the process, as he wouldn't understand what's actually happening with him. Most people who gambled with borrowed money didn't earn enough winnings to repay their debt.
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I value you sharing your own story of becoming addicted to gambling. Extreme gambling can lead to a lot of problems, and this is a stark warning of both. I agree with your advice that people shouldn't take gambling too seriously and should never use a loan to bet. Be careful when you gamble, and know your limits to avoid losing money or your relationship. By being honest, you've given others an important lesson in how to gamble responsibly. It's great that you want to raise knowledge about the risks, and I hope your situation gets better over time.

Even if we advice them to don't take gambling seriously, there's an instances that they will not follow this advices of us because they are busy doing gambling and they have experienced winning so one of the things they expect in gambling is winning and gaining profit. we really don't know what will gambling affect people's mindset because sometimes even the most serious and responsible person became addicted in gambling.



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I value you sharing your own story of becoming addicted to gambling. Extreme gambling can lead to a lot of problems, and this is a stark warning of both. I agree with your advice that people shouldn't take gambling too seriously and should never use a loan to bet. Be careful when you gamble, and know your limits to avoid losing money or your relationship. By being honest, you've given others an important lesson in how to gamble responsibly. It's great that you want to raise knowledge about the risks, and I hope your situation gets better over time.
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Gambling and Casino is always a risky investment especially in Gambling and Casino there is no guarantee as to how, when and how much the profits/losses will come. So caution must be taken when investing in Gambling or Casino. All other investments must be secured by a loan or bank. If you take a loan from a business or invest in real estate, there is a possibility of repaying that loan at some point, but if you invest in gambling or casino, there is no way to repay that money if you lose one time. In this case, there is no other option but to go bankrupt and all assets will be forfeited to the source from which the loan was taken.
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Exactly! I can say that we don't have to experience any kind of problem in order for us to learn because we can still learn from other people's mistakes and we can get an Idea from them how to prevent things to happen to us just in case we find ourself in that situation. this kind of incident is very typical irresponsible gambler problem, so I think many gamblers out there see this as an eye opener for them to not do it but it really depends because sometimes, even they knew what will be the consequences of doing it, they still do it for the sake of their satisfactions.
Learning from other people's mistakes can make us wise in responding to what we need to do when playing gambling. We can also avoid unnecessary problems to gamble comfortably and enjoy relaxing moments. And that's why when we read that there are people who borrow money from other people to gamble, we have to realize that it is a mistake because instead of winning, we can lose, which will give us problems where we have to return the borrowed money. And from other people's experiences, we can avoid things like that so that we don't experience any problems during and after we gamble.
wise experiences do not always come from ourselves, but we can also take them from other people's experiences as you said.
In this case, it has happened frequently since the past and even now, one of the members of this forum still borrows money to gamble and in fact the risk is very big of losing money and still having to return the money previously borrowed.

loan money to gamble is one of the beginnings of destroying the future because if a gambler takes a loan from someone else to gamble while gambling does not guarantee a win, the money will definitely be lost and when he loses, the gambler has to return the money and has to look for another loan from someone else. a larger amount to pay off the loan and the rest to catch up on losses and this will continue to happen until his future is ruined.
the conclusion, as written in the title of this thread, is that if you want to be a healthy gambler, it would be better if you avoid borrowing money to gamble.
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