Do not trust suchmoon, a blatant trust abuser. - page 3.

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 05, 2018, 02:51:11 PM

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 05, 2018, 01:48:35 PM

Quote from: actmyname on June 05, 2018, 06:35:14 AM

Have you contacted Blazed?

Sneaky bastard updated the thread title. I don't think that counts as "contact" though.

You asked for it. Wink

I most certainly didn't. You're lying again.

You are a lier, how many times have you asked me to contact DT1 members? however after giving it some thoughts, I have decided it would be better to change the title instead of directly contacting them, they are not my personal tool to use them as I please. I'd only call them out publicly because that's all I can do, contacting them via PM could be considered as if I am asking for personal favors from them and that is a wrong thing to do.

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Quote from: digaran on June 05, 2018, 01:29:59 PM

Now that you are here, can I ask you a question? would you like to tag me for offering the service? or will you tag me later saying that it wasn't needed to tag me because suchmoon and marlboroza had already tagged me? Wink

You mean the red trust removal service? No. I seldom add multiple negative feedbacks to a user. Do you want me to? Because since you've made the thread, your image has started degrading steadily, especially as you continue to dig the hole deeper.

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Quote from: digaran on June 05, 2018, 02:46:30 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 05, 2018, 01:48:35 PM

Quote from: actmyname on June 05, 2018, 06:35:14 AM

Have you contacted Blazed?

Sneaky bastard updated the thread title. I don't think that counts as "contact" though.

You asked for it. Wink

I most certainly didn't. You're lying again.

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 05, 2018, 01:48:35 PM

Quote from: actmyname on June 05, 2018, 06:35:14 AM

Have you contacted Blazed?

Sneaky bastard updated the thread title. I don't think that counts as "contact" though.

You asked for it. Wink

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Quote from: actmyname on June 05, 2018, 06:35:14 AM

Have you contacted Blazed?

Sneaky bastard updated the thread title. I don't think that counts as "contact" though.

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Quote from: actmyname on June 05, 2018, 06:35:14 AM

Quote from: digaran on June 05, 2018, 04:27:24 AM

Lol. who is now stalking who?

Still you? suchmoon is just responding to the quote, not bringing up other shit that you've posted. They've just decided that since the thread you posted in has nothing to do with them, that they would rather redirect the conversation here.

Roll Eyes

Have you contacted Blazed?

Now that you are here, can I ask you a question? would you like to tag me for offering the service? or will you tag me later saying that it wasn't needed to tag me because suchmoon and marlboroza had already tagged me? Wink

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Quote from: digaran on June 05, 2018, 04:27:24 AM

Lol. who is now stalking who?

Still you? suchmoon is just responding to the quote, not bringing up other shit that you've posted. They've just decided that since the thread you posted in has nothing to do with them, that they would rather redirect the conversation here.

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Have you contacted Blazed?

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 04, 2018, 08:46:31 PM

Quote from: digaran on June 04, 2018, 08:18:41 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 04, 2018, 07:54:36 PM

Have you contacted DT1 members yet?

If I do contact dooglus and if he refuses to take any action, people would say that he is an irresponsible person. if he says that the tags on my profile are not valid and you refuse to remove them as you have already stated that you wont remove them under any circumstances and if he keeps you on DT2 regardless, he would lose his credibility and people would say that he is an irresponsible person for keeping you on DT2.

If he kicks you out from DT2, you'd lose your credibility and this forum could lose a potential useful asset. I am trying to give you a chance but you are unable to see it.

People would say that you're full of shit. You just don't want the drama to end. You keep stalking me in various threads and bringing up your "abuse" case yet you refuse to take the one action that you can actually take. You keep referring to "people in position of power" yet you refuse to even talk to people who can do something about it. (Hint: it ain't just dooglus)

Asslicking or threatening won't work, don't bother.

Lol. who is now stalking who?

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Quote from: digaran on June 04, 2018, 08:18:41 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 04, 2018, 07:54:36 PM

Have you contacted DT1 members yet?

If I do contact dooglus and if he refuses to take any action, people would say that he is an irresponsible person. if he says that the tags on my profile are not valid and you refuse to remove them as you have already stated that you wont remove them under any circumstances and if he keeps you on DT2 regardless, he would lose his credibility and people would say that he is an irresponsible person for keeping you on DT2.

If he kicks you out from DT2, you'd lose your credibility and this forum could lose a potential useful asset. I am trying to give you a chance but you are unable to see it.

People would say that you're full of shit. You just don't want the drama to end. You keep stalking me in various threads and bringing up your "abuse" case yet you refuse to take the one action that you can actually take. You keep referring to "people in position of power" yet you refuse to even talk to people who can do something about it. (Hint: it ain't just dooglus)

Asslicking or threatening won't work, don't bother.

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Quote from: digaran on May 31, 2018, 07:24:08 PM

@suchmoon, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you in any way, tell me what can I do to fix this and then we could move forward together improving the trust system and the forum as a whole?

If you're angling for your neg trust removal - not happening for reasons explained to you multiple times. I think the forum has been improved by these comments on your trust page.

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@suchmoon, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you in any way, tell me what can I do to fix this and then we could move forward together improving the trust system and the forum as a whole?

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Quote from: Lauda on May 30, 2018, 12:42:49 AM

Wait, where is my name? Roll Eyes

I thought I was the master of these alt collusion things Huh

Shit, my bad. Although we have previously established that you are an alt of Satoshi (and The Pharmacist, and nullius, and god knows how many others), so I guess you are included by proxy.

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 29, 2018, 07:46:57 PM

Accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being alts or in collusion or otherwise "abusing" the system is not reasoning. Nice attempt at whitewashing though.

That's exactly what an alt of actmyname/marlboroza/blazed/me/theymos/satoshi/every hero member/every legendary member/every DT1/every DT2/the cartel/the mafia/Jesus would say!

Wait, where is my name? Roll Eyes

I thought I was the master of these alt collusion things Huh

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 29, 2018, 07:46:57 PM

Accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being alts or in collusion or otherwise "abusing" the system is not reasoning. Nice attempt at whitewashing though.

That's exactly what an alt of actmyname/marlboroza/blazed/me/theymos/satoshi/every hero member/every legendary member/every DT1/every DT2/the cartel/the mafia/Jesus would say!

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Quote from: digaran on May 29, 2018, 06:31:08 PM

Except I never asked to remove my own tags on people in exchange of money for myself. it was marlboroza's action that made me think we could have a chance reasoning with people.

Accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being alts or in collusion or otherwise "abusing" the system is not reasoning. Nice attempt at whitewashing though.

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 29, 2018, 09:33:57 AM

Quote from: pugman on May 29, 2018, 08:10:50 AM

We all know that digaran is a nuts but you can give him the benefit of the doubt to see for yourself what he wants to do actually by converting the tag from negative to neutral? I am not siding on him,though.

The reason I'm not doing that is because he already flipped once after he neutralized marlboroza's feedback. Here is the sequence of events IIRC:

1) digaran suggests to collect payments to remove red trust.
2) digaran gets negative trust from marlboroza, which becomes red trust once marlboroza is added to DT2.
4) digaran manages to convince marlboroza that he was "joking" (?) and red trust becomes neutral.
5) digaran starts a thread offering dodgy "service" promising to remove red trust for a fee.
6) digaran gets permanent negative trust from me.

Based on this pattern I was quite certain that if I removed my neg digaran would continue to ramp up his shady activities involving trust, merits, or other forum facilities and I clearly stated in response to his initial complaint that my feedback will stay. Since then digaran has doubled down on lies and conspiracy theories, which is reinforcing my opinion. I don't believe in third chances except for my kids and to the best of my knowledge digaran does not qualify for that exemption.

Except I never asked to remove my own tags on people in exchange of money for myself. it was marlboroza's action that made me think we could have a chance reasoning with people.

I asked for money in exchange for my service representing other people, I would have wanted to act as their representative instead of them acting alone on their own. however I have decided to offer a free service after you judged me.

I will not engage in any discussion with you anymore because it is useless to discuss anything after you have said that you wont remove the tags under any circumstances. I would let people to decide for themselves and see if there was any attempt at scamming by me.

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Quote from: pugman on May 29, 2018, 08:10:50 AM

We all know that digaran is a nuts but you can give him the benefit of the doubt to see for yourself what he wants to do actually by converting the tag from negative to neutral? I am not siding on him,though.

The reason I'm not doing that is because he already flipped once after he neutralized marlboroza's feedback. Here is the sequence of events IIRC:

1) digaran suggests to collect payments to remove red trust.
2) digaran gets negative trust from marlboroza, which becomes red trust once marlboroza is added to DT2.
4) digaran manages to convince marlboroza that he was "joking" (?) and red trust becomes neutral.
5) digaran starts a thread offering dodgy "service" promising to remove red trust for a fee.
6) digaran gets permanent negative trust from me.

Based on this pattern I was quite certain that if I removed my neg digaran would continue to ramp up his shady activities involving trust, merits, or other forum facilities and I clearly stated in response to his initial complaint that my feedback will stay. Since then digaran has doubled down on lies and conspiracy theories, which is reinforcing my opinion. I don't believe in third chances except for my kids and to the best of my knowledge digaran does not qualify for that exemption.

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 28, 2018, 02:44:54 PM

Quote from: digaran on May 28, 2018, 02:05:59 PM

We can see that at least one of the DT1 members has an alt account included on DT2

No, we can't see that. Who is that?

Probably hilariousandco/hilariousetc.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2018, 02:35:09 PM

It's a one-size-fits-all trust system, and people should look into any comments on anyone's trust page and make their own decision based on what is said and what's in the reference link (if one is given).

People don't look at the comments. People just look at the something that just freaks them out,and they just flip out without giving the benefit of the doubt. People are like that in general,they don't know shit. They just react rather than respond. So general people would just assume digaran to be a scammer.

We all know that digaran is a nuts but you can give him the benefit of the doubt to see for yourself what he wants to do actually by converting the tag from negative to neutral? I am not siding on him,though.

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Quote from: digaran on May 28, 2018, 02:05:59 PM

We can see that at least one of the DT1 members has an alt account included on DT2

No, we can't see that. Who is that?

Quote from: digaran on May 28, 2018, 02:05:59 PM

what makes you think that other DT1 members are not doing the same? normal members are giving their alt accounts merits, what makes you think that DT members are not giving their own alt accounts positive trust?

Lack of facts would make me think that.

Quote from: digaran on May 28, 2018, 02:05:59 PM

I'd like to advise against trusting suchmoon, actmyname and marlboroza with anything. this is based on my own personal interactions with them, I believe that they are not honest and are abusing merit and trust system for their own personal gains, whether it to be for bullying other forum members or to give their friends merits and +trust. suchmoon has given positive trust to counter a negative trust given by a reputable forum member. he/she is abusing his DT power.

Countering neg trust is not abuse.

Quote from: digaran on May 28, 2018, 02:05:59 PM

If you read the reference of his red trust on me, there is no attempt of scam. I have asked for money in exchange for my time, however after seeing the community's reaction to my behavior I have decided to change my behavior and now am offering a free service, yet suchmoon insists on holding my reputation hostage. this person shouldn't be trusted.

The feedback is factual. It will stay.

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Quote from: Quickseller on May 25, 2018, 11:22:25 PM

When someone is deciding if they want to trade with him, they will know that a negative rating means “~this person scammed you or you strongly believe he is a scammer”

Eh, yeah that's probably true and I realize digaran hasn't scammed anyone that I know of, but I'm not sure if he's a person I'd want to trade with--imagine trying to do a deal with someone as mentally unstable as he is. I didn't tag him because, as I've said before, I think he's basically a harmless nincompoop who barks a lot but hasn't yet bit anyone hard enough to make the skin bleed. I don't think he's been tagged inappropriately, because his taggers don't trust him. Period.

That quote from the trust page "this person scammed you or you strongly believe he is a scammer" has become just a guideline and we all know it. Bitcointalk doesn't have a tool to alert people that a member is a shitposter, or a merit beggar, or an insane person who hasn't scammed anyone but probably shouldn't be trusted. It's a one-size-fits-all trust system, and people should look into any comments on anyone's trust page and make their own decision based on what is said and what's in the reference link (if one is given).

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