Do online casinos disadvantage some locations from winning big

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Quote from: Wakate on January 31, 2023, 05:28:12 PM

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Quote from: flipme on January 28, 2023, 10:41:30 PM

I don't think we can oversee a centralized system. That's why I always leave the door open to such a possibility. However, I find such things less likely to happen on well-known betting platforms. Maybe there are more such things on questionable platforms focused on scamming users. I actually don't know if this is something that can be checked or not. I just keep having doubts inside me all the time. Because I need to know in order to trust and I do not have qualified information on this subject.

It is true it is impossible to supervise all casinos to the point we could answer this categorically, but when I think about it I cannot think of a single reason why a casino would like to do this, if a casino wanted to scam their customers, why limit themselves to a few countries when they could instead scam the gamblers which wager the most money regardless of the location used to access their website? This is why I do not think any casino is engaging in an activity like this one.

Since we can not supervise most of these casinos just like you have explained then the possibility of knowing if there are some casinos that indulge in this kind of act is zero. We can only give opinion based on our experience and what we think but it is still unbelievable for me to think that casinos would want to restricts people from a certain region from making high profits in there casino.

This act might exist just like op had seen but we still need some fact and events like that to determine if this kind of injustice act still happens. If casinos decided to do this, something might be wrong somewhere that would need to be disclosed to the public.

This is not a very easy task to prove. But if the casino is in any way involved in any such activity then it should be brought under punishment. If they have restricted their site to the general public in a specific area and it is mentioned in their terms and conditions then they will not be charged. But if there is no mention of that kind of thing then it will directly be considered as hypocrisy and dishonesty.

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Quote from: Silberman on January 31, 2023, 04:03:15 PM

Quote from: flipme on January 28, 2023, 10:41:30 PM

I don't think we can oversee a centralized system. That's why I always leave the door open to such a possibility. However, I find such things less likely to happen on well-known betting platforms. Maybe there are more such things on questionable platforms focused on scamming users. I actually don't know if this is something that can be checked or not. I just keep having doubts inside me all the time. Because I need to know in order to trust and I do not have qualified information on this subject.

It is true it is impossible to supervise all casinos to the point we could answer this categorically, but when I think about it I cannot think of a single reason why a casino would like to do this, if a casino wanted to scam their customers, why limit themselves to a few countries when they could instead scam the gamblers which wager the most money regardless of the location used to access their website? This is why I do not think any casino is engaging in an activity like this one.

Since we can not supervise most of these casinos just like you have explained then the possibility of knowing if there are some casinos that indulge in this kind of act is zero. We can only give opinion based on our experience and what we think but it is still unbelievable for me to think that casinos would want to restricts people from a certain region from making high profits in there casino.

This act might exist just like op had seen but we still need some fact and events like that to determine if this kind of injustice act still happens. If casinos decided to do this, something might be wrong somewhere that would need to be disclosed to the public.

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Quote from: Silberman on January 31, 2023, 04:03:15 PM

Quote from: flipme on January 28, 2023, 10:41:30 PM

I don't think we can oversee a centralized system. That's why I always leave the door open to such a possibility. However, I find such things less likely to happen on well-known betting platforms. Maybe there are more such things on questionable platforms focused on scamming users. I actually don't know if this is something that can be checked or not. I just keep having doubts inside me all the time. Because I need to know in order to trust and I do not have qualified information on this subject.

It is true it is impossible to supervise all casinos to the point we could answer this categorically, but when I think about it I cannot think of a single reason why a casino would like to do this, if a casino wanted to scam their customers, why limit themselves to a few countries when they could instead scam the gamblers which wager the most money regardless of the location used to access their website? This is why I do not think any casino is engaging in an activity like this one.

Really that impossible and which we do know that whatever things they do wanted to prevent out from those people to access into their site, we do know that VPN access is really that very common which its not
something that you could stop them on playing even with those restrictions.It isnt really just that ethical on making those altering those winning percentage on specific people because its not being that fair.
Once you do get caught then your business if fucked up.Just let them play and also detecting their IP's wont really be that simple or making out some filtering unless if you do ask for more
verification then it might caught up some good numbers but it would be depending on how popular your site is.

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Quote from: flipme on January 28, 2023, 10:41:30 PM

I don't think we can oversee a centralized system. That's why I always leave the door open to such a possibility. However, I find such things less likely to happen on well-known betting platforms. Maybe there are more such things on questionable platforms focused on scamming users. I actually don't know if this is something that can be checked or not. I just keep having doubts inside me all the time. Because I need to know in order to trust and I do not have qualified information on this subject.

It is true it is impossible to supervise all casinos to the point we could answer this categorically, but when I think about it I cannot think of a single reason why a casino would like to do this, if a casino wanted to scam their customers, why limit themselves to a few countries when they could instead scam the gamblers which wager the most money regardless of the location used to access their website? This is why I do not think any casino is engaging in an activity like this one.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on January 28, 2023, 06:44:40 PM

Quote from: Silberman on January 28, 2023, 05:31:42 PM

I doubt casinos take the time to lower the chances of a gambler winning based on their location, sometimes we hear about casinos restricting some users because they are professional gamblers or sometimes even bans are issued as the gamblers are trying to abuse the bonuses given by casinos, but I have never heard of a casino giving worst odds or lower payouts for the same bet based on their country of residence, and if this was ever found out to be true a backlash would ensue so I doubt it will ever happen.

I also don't believe the casino will make a difference in winning odds based on location or country, all winning odds will be the same for all gamblers regardless of location, so that statement is just a person's assumption because he often loses in gambling and not a fact of actual gambling, all platforms the casino targets more users from all countries that are not prohibited under the regulations of each country.

A casino platform is usually made accessible from anywhere in the world. But some country governments do not allow access to any casino platforms due to their regulations. If a casino is available from anywhere naturally they can get all kinds of advantages. In this case I have no idea about such casinos offering different benefits for a particular region. And if this kind of restriction is given then that site would definitely be under threat which would be a big loss for them.

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I don't think we can oversee a centralized system. That's why I always leave the door open to such a possibility. However, I find such things less likely to happen on well-known betting platforms. Maybe there are more such things on questionable platforms focused on scamming users. I actually don't know if this is something that can be checked or not. I just keep having doubts inside me all the time. Because I need to know in order to trust and I do not have qualified information on this subject.

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Quote from: capedbaldy on January 28, 2023, 06:44:40 PM

Quote from: Silberman on January 28, 2023, 05:31:42 PM

I doubt casinos take the time to lower the chances of a gambler winning based on their location, sometimes we hear about casinos restricting some users because they are professional gamblers or sometimes even bans are issued as the gamblers are trying to abuse the bonuses given by casinos, but I have never heard of a casino giving worst odds or lower payouts for the same bet based on their country of residence, and if this was ever found out to be true a backlash would ensue so I doubt it will ever happen.

I also don't believe the casino will make a difference in winning odds based on location or country, all winning odds will be the same for all gamblers regardless of location, so that statement is just a person's assumption because he often loses in gambling and not a fact of actual gambling, all platforms the casino targets more users from all countries that are not prohibited under the regulations of each country.

Myself too doesn't believe in it, but there are differences in Winning when you play on different time zones. I came across similar incident and tried to cross check and found it to be winning when we play on the Western time zone and loss when I was on the Asian time zone. This is just a coincidence, which I later understood when I took the overall profit and loss between the two time zones.

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Quote from: Silberman on January 28, 2023, 05:31:42 PM

I doubt casinos take the time to lower the chances of a gambler winning based on their location, sometimes we hear about casinos restricting some users because they are professional gamblers or sometimes even bans are issued as the gamblers are trying to abuse the bonuses given by casinos, but I have never heard of a casino giving worst odds or lower payouts for the same bet based on their country of residence, and if this was ever found out to be true a backlash would ensue so I doubt it will ever happen.

I also don't believe the casino will make a difference in winning odds based on location or country, all winning odds will be the same for all gamblers regardless of location, so that statement is just a person's assumption because he often loses in gambling and not a fact of actual gambling, all platforms the casino targets more users from all countries that are not prohibited under the regulations of each country.

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Quote from: milewilda on January 27, 2023, 12:58:14 PM

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Yes, online casinos can disadvantage some locations from winning big. This is because many online casinos are based in other countries, meaning that the payouts, or Return to Player (RTP) percentages, can be much lower than a casino located in the same jurisdiction as the player. This means that players from certain locations may not have access to the same level of winnings as those located in other areas.

Are you sure about that?

Can you point out some casinos who had this kind of behavior on which lessening out players chances that out of their jurisdiction to win? I dont think that this is something to be applied because
its not something an ethical thing for you to do so as a business owner.Once the public would able to know such alterations then it would really be fucked up hard with your business
which is something that we dont really want to happen.

Whenever they are really trying to get rid of users who do have some legal issues then blocking IP's would be the case but there are ones who are really that stubborn
on trying out to access despite of prohibition which it would really be just right for the platform on taking such rightful step and action.

I doubt casinos take the time to lower the chances of a gambler winning based on their location, sometimes we hear about casinos restricting some users because they are professional gamblers or sometimes even bans are issued as the gamblers are trying to abuse the bonuses given by casinos, but I have never heard of a casino giving worst odds or lower payouts for the same bet based on their country of residence, and if this was ever found out to be true a backlash would ensue so I doubt it will ever happen.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on January 25, 2023, 01:53:50 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I am sure that what you are describing is not only frowned upon by the authorities and casino regulators, but it is also quite illegal for casinos to do. I doubt any legitimate casino would try to risk their entire business over some extra profit. Especially when they are being controlled and hounded by people whos sole job it is to weed out bad actors in that particular business.

Don't get me wrong, I think casinos will try to do the sneakiest, dirtiest things to gain more profit but only when they are moving in a legal area. Rigging the games in such a way is undoubtedly not legal though. Shocked

argue defending oneself in order to win is difficult. bookies that will always win in any case. many countries are legally legal in secret from anticipation of government pollution that is not appropriate, whereas on the contrary, there are only different ways to run this gambling business in secret. Gambling taxes are definitely there for non-transparent governments

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Yes, online casinos can disadvantage some locations from winning big. This is because many online casinos are based in other countries, meaning that the payouts, or Return to Player (RTP) percentages, can be much lower than a casino located in the same jurisdiction as the player. This means that players from certain locations may not have access to the same level of winnings as those located in other areas.

Are you sure about that?

Can you point out some casinos who had this kind of behavior on which lessening out players chances that out of their jurisdiction to win? I dont think that this is something to be applied because
its not something an ethical thing for you to do so as a business owner.Once the public would able to know such alterations then it would really be fucked up hard with your business
which is something that we dont really want to happen.

Whenever they are really trying to get rid of users who do have some legal issues then blocking IP's would be the case but there are ones who are really that stubborn
on trying out to access despite of prohibition which it would really be just right for the platform on taking such rightful step and action.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

that is no excuse for casinos to limit big winnings to one gambler. I mean if indeed a gambler wins big and usually will be asked for KYC and after that if it passes the verification, the casino will still give that win.
and regional or state governments have no right to know where the sources of these funds come from. but as a gambler who wins big, you should also be careful to enter into a local bank. because usually local banks have limited funds that will later be subject to state taxes.
so gamblers who can finally get big wins must be good at separating these funds at the local bank so that the state doesn't question the source of the funds.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 26, 2023, 10:10:10 AM

Then you have never really sifted through the pages of this forum to see that even huge casinos are trying to make the winners feel like shit in order for the winners to not claim their winnings. Even legitimate, land-based casinos are trying to prevent big wins from happening, just like this one wherein the casino tried to offer a steak dinner to a woman that 'won' $43 million jackpot on a slot machine. The casino and even the New York Gambling Board mentioned that the machine malfunctioned, but it's kind of a joke seeing that the machine only becomes broken when big wins happen.

Casinos will try their best to not give out big wins, and if you have never seen or heard of one, then you must not be involved that much in gambling for you to not know this.

The case you stated above seems not an online casino, it is an offline casino. And the case isn't the limitation of a certain country to win big price, but the casino refused to give the price to the gambler. It is not the same case (topic) that is described by the OP, it is a different case, dude. For the case you stated above, surely I already heard the same cases many times. Roll Eyes

By the way, if there are online casinos that always try to not give the price to the gambler, I believe all gamblers will leave the casinos and will judge "scam" for the casino. The casinos won't survive a long time, a bad reputation will make the casinos to have no users.

Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on January 26, 2023, 01:00:36 PM

I guess what you are trying to explain here above is quite different from what "O.P" meant as stated in the thread, because those are two different concept altogether. The woman who won this $43million took place on a land base casino 4yrs ago, of which the casino claimed that the slot machine had a malfunction, and for that, the winning won't be paid.
While, O.P is asking, Do online casinos disadvantage some locations from winning big? Which the answer is "NO" because no legally registered online casino will disadvantage any region from winning big, but can only restrict certain regions base on reasons best known for them.

You are right. He misunderstood the topic.

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Quote from: QueenVera on January 26, 2023, 02:44:12 AM

I really don't agree or think that geographical location is a problem when it comes to gambling provided the casino has the required license.
I had to have a rethink in this issue and I really don't agree with the fact that casinos use any form of algorithm to limit payouts to certain location except is a non license casino and you shouldn't trust any casino without a license because it's operating illegally and the worst can happen at anytime.
Firstly for a casino to operate in a certain place, there are certification and license they're required to have and at such there are jurisdictions they're also expected to abide by and I'm sure with those licenses they wouldn't have to fear any implications for any amount won as long as they can make the payment to the winner.

Do you understand that some jurisdictions are under sanctions? If a casino (most of whose business is under US jurisdiction) even obtains a license in a sanctioned country and starts operating there, then it will automatically lose all of its business, since violation of sanctions is severely punished. Even the creation of front legal entities and gasket companies is not an option in such situations, since the risk is not worth the profit.

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Quote from: boyptc on January 26, 2023, 09:48:06 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 26, 2023, 12:29:19 AM

But from a general point of view, if you want to established good business better to work without any issue with whatever that may rise along the way while managing your business.

Issues will always be there and it's hard to avoid.

But when a casino got some issues from their customers, it is a way to become better and to make them offer a better service on which they fell short or lack of based from the issue that has been brought to them.

Issues are there for the business to thrive better. And those disadvantages that has been brought up should be resolved but then, these winnings are not based from our locations.

The winnings maybe based on the location,I can say this because in the country I live in now I could access a casino I used to play before online up to 2020 or something like that and from that it went on blocked from all the ISP providers of this country so I was forced to use a VPN and used a better country when connecting like UK,France or Germany.The fun fact is that I got x3000 multiplier when I was playing at that casino when I was accessing it from the country I live in and when using the VPN-s with the mentioned countries I never saw the x3000 wins anymore,maybe a coincidence but who knows.

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Quote from: QueenVera on January 26, 2023, 02:44:12 AM

I really don't agree or think that geographical location is a problem when it comes to gambling provided the casino has the required license.
I had to have a rethink in this issue and I really don't agree with the fact that casinos use any form of algorithm to limit payouts to certain location except is a non license casino and you shouldn't trust any casino without a license because it's operating illegally and the worst can happen at anytime.
Firstly for a casino to operate in a certain place, there are certification and license they're required to have and at such there are jurisdictions they're also expected to abide by and I'm sure with those licenses they wouldn't have to fear any implications for any amount won as long as they can make the payment to the winner.

Agreed. But I was made aware of the fact that casinos are mostly set up on places where people are likely more to spend. But geographically discriminating? I don't think so. If anything, I could attribute this as a gambler pinning the blame on someone or something for losing a lot of money on a certain spot and then winning a couple on the other. It's all a bias in your brain, like thinking that you have a certain lucky number. One must be responsible enough to reconsider his/her actions and what led them to that moment, and not blame anything but yourself. After all, you should've gambled knowing all too well that you most likely wouldn't keep all your money in one piece, otherwise why would you gamble in the first place, for profit?

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 26, 2023, 10:10:10 AM

Then you have never really sifted through the pages of this forum to see that even huge casinos are trying to make the winners feel like shit in order for the winners to not claim their winnings. Even legitimate, land-based casinos are trying to prevent big wins from happening, just like this one wherein the casino tried to offer a steak dinner to a woman that 'won' $43 million jackpot on a slot machine. The casino and even the New York Gambling Board mentioned that the machine malfunctioned, but it's kind of a joke seeing that the machine only becomes broken when big wins happen.

Casinos will try their best to not give out big wins, and if you have never seen or heard of one, then you must not be involved that much in gambling for you to not know this.

I guess what you are trying to explain here above is quite different from what "O.P" meant as stated in the thread, because those are two different concept altogether. The woman who won this $43million took place on a land base casino 4yrs ago, of which the casino claimed that the slot machine had a malfunction, and for that, the winning won't be paid.
While, O.P is asking, Do online casinos disadvantage some locations from winning big? Which the answer is "NO" because no legally registered online casino will disadvantage any region from winning big, but can only restrict certain regions base on reasons best known for them.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 25, 2023, 04:03:30 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on November 01, 2022, 05:37:35 AM

I don't think an online casino will restrict a player from winning big based on the country where he is playing from,that is why it's online so that the casino can be accessed from any part of the world. If a casino wants to restrict, they will restrict the gamblers from a particular country not the funds to be won. Though the casinos are always making profit because of the house hedge.

Indeed. Legal casinos seem never to restrict any gambler from winning big, it is an unfair way. They only limit the gamblers from a few countries because of certain reasons and limit the age of the gamblers to avoid negative impacts on the young generation. These are common limitations/restrictions, it is the right way to make gamblers play properly. I think everyone accepts these, it is already notified even before the gamblers register on the online casinos.

Anyway, I never heard any casino preventing gamblers from certain countries to win big prizes. I think it is just OP assumption, he doesn't really understand the restriction/limitation on online casinos.

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Then you have never really sifted through the pages of this forum to see that even huge casinos are trying to make the winners feel like shit in order for the winners to not claim their winnings. Even legitimate, land-based casinos are trying to prevent big wins from happening, just like this one wherein the casino tried to offer a steak dinner to a woman that 'won' $43 million jackpot on a slot machine. The casino and even the New York Gambling Board mentioned that the machine malfunctioned, but it's kind of a joke seeing that the machine only becomes broken when big wins happen.

Casinos will try their best to not give out big wins, and if you have never seen or heard of one, then you must not be involved that much in gambling for you to not know this.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 26, 2023, 12:29:19 AM

But from a general point of view, if you want to established good business better to work without any issue with whatever that may rise along the way while managing your business.

Issues will always be there and it's hard to avoid.

But when a casino got some issues from their customers, it is a way to become better and to make them offer a better service on which they fell short or lack of based from the issue that has been brought to them.

Issues are there for the business to thrive better. And those disadvantages that has been brought up should be resolved but then, these winnings are not based from our locations.

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I really don't agree or think that geographical location is a problem when it comes to gambling provided the casino has the required license.
I had to have a rethink in this issue and I really don't agree with the fact that casinos use any form of algorithm to limit payouts to certain location except is a non license casino and you shouldn't trust any casino without a license because it's operating illegally and the worst can happen at anytime.
Firstly for a casino to operate in a certain place, there are certification and license they're required to have and at such there are jurisdictions they're also expected to abide by and I'm sure with those licenses they wouldn't have to fear any implications for any amount won as long as they can make the payment to the winner.

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