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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

If ever online casinos are doing it, I don't think they will even disclose it. I doubt reputable casinos will do such manipulation since they value their reputation with their users, they will gain nothing from it. If an online casino is operating legitimately it will avoid any possible legal conflict it can with its users. That is why they require KYC, or even locate your IP to check which country where you are playing at to be able to block games that are not allowed in your country, or if ever you can play in the casino or not.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

If the main issue is about location then in the first place, why they will allow users to the said locations you are referring to if, in the end, they might face a problem or issues? I don't think that there's an algorithm where the sequence would be limiting the possible max payouts of users depending on a certain location.

Reputable game providers won't surely create an algorithm like that.

May we know what leads you to think that something like that happened?

Maybe we can give more accurate responses rather than basic responses.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I haven't heard about any casino limiting the amount they pay to some certain regions, the only thing I know is that some casinos are not allowed to operate in some regions and if you want to access it illegally then you will have to make use of VPN.
If a player wins big and he is being paid, if the local authorities wants to know his source of income he can easily show them that he wins a bet, since the casino is allowed in the country, I don't think anything is bad in that, they will have to free the player, but if the casino is illegal in the region, then they can freeze the user's account and he will face the punishment for that.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 24, 2022, 03:48:22 PM

I really don't know if relatively new casinos can do something like that, but I understand that the most reliable and reputable casinos don't do it, it's like they say, they would get into serious trouble, and they don't have any logic, because the majority of casinos that have to do with crypto, payments can be made in bitcoin, and a very high amount can be sent in Bitcoin, it is something that does not make much sense, the fact of thinking that in a certain country it is they have to limit I don't think so, maybe I would believe it if it is a casino that uses fiat for its transactions, already there or I would believe it because it is much more centralized and above all controlled.

Reputable casinos will definitely not be going to do it.

That's because they want to be known as a reputable and friendly to its customers so, doing this will make their customers turned off with how they act especially if it's about withdrawals.

People are becoming aggressive and sensitive when it's about this matter, so, a casino understands this that it can push a lot of customers away if they're treating them as if they always have a new rule every time someone withdraws.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

regular casinos could easily do this as they have a lot of amenities that could ensure that someone couldn't go out of their casino easily. Free drinks, even free hotel stays for their regulars are some of the tactics that they employ to prevent gamblers from spending their money on a more fair casino. Oftentimes they cover it up as a "benefit." The same couldn't be said for online casinos, they do not have physical benefits that could entice people to gamble more in their site, so there's no possibility, or a very little of it that they are rigging their games based on location.

Besides we need to think what could casinos gain by doing something like this? If it could be proven that casinos were doing this kind of distinction among their players then it would not take long for the gamblers which come from the countries which receive smaller payouts to simple leave that casino behind and move to a casino which was fair to all their customers.

Taking this into consideration I do not see how a casino would do something like this since I think it is even possible it could affect its reputation in the process.

I really don't know if relatively new casinos can do something like that, but I understand that the most reliable and reputable casinos don't do it, it's like they say, they would get into serious trouble, and they don't have any logic, because the majority of casinos that have to do with crypto, payments can be made in bitcoin, and a very high amount can be sent in Bitcoin, it is something that does not make much sense, the fact of thinking that in a certain country it is they have to limit I don't think so, maybe I would believe it if it is a casino that uses fiat for its transactions, already there or I would believe it because it is much more centralized and above all controlled.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 03, 2022, 04:48:02 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

regular casinos could easily do this as they have a lot of amenities that could ensure that someone couldn't go out of their casino easily. Free drinks, even free hotel stays for their regulars are some of the tactics that they employ to prevent gamblers from spending their money on a more fair casino. Oftentimes they cover it up as a "benefit." The same couldn't be said for online casinos, they do not have physical benefits that could entice people to gamble more in their site, so there's no possibility, or a very little of it that they are rigging their games based on location.

Besides we need to think what could casinos gain by doing something like this? If it could be proven that casinos were doing this kind of distinction among their players then it would not take long for the gamblers which come from the countries which receive smaller payouts to simple leave that casino behind and move to a casino which was fair to all their customers.

Taking this into consideration I do not see how a casino would do something like this since I think it is even possible it could affect its reputation in the process.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

regular casinos could easily do this as they have a lot of amenities that could ensure that someone couldn't go out of their casino easily. Free drinks, even free hotel stays for their regulars are some of the tactics that they employ to prevent gamblers from spending their money on a more fair casino. Oftentimes they cover it up as a "benefit." The same couldn't be said for online casinos, they do not have physical benefits that could entice people to gamble more in their site, so there's no possibility, or a very little of it that they are rigging their games based on location.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I don't think Casinos make a distinction when it comes to prizes in relation to locations or specific regions. They basically do not operate in countries that do not allow gambling. They mainly follow the rules and only operate where the regulation favours them. What can sometimes happen is that some casinos operate in certain countries where there is a specific regulation and users in the country can only play with users in the same country, so in those cases, they may have different winning prizes. Even so, that happens because the market is a low size one and the prizes are played out accordingly.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I would love to see if you have proof about this claim. At least this can make us point our VPN to the country that can get huge wins from slots. I also watch streamers that claims that seeds from certain place is far better than others. But I don't believe this kind of stuff. Slots result is random and seeds, even thought they are different in every country, I am sure slots provider will do their best in order to deliver fair gaming.

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If what you said here that players can be restricted to win certain huge amount of money because of where they come from is true, I think such a casino will have to make its customers from such areas not play at all, than play and not get paid when they win. There will be severe lawsuits against the casino if that happens. But why would any casino do that, as that will discredit them even among those who get paid their winnings. I do not think there is any casino that can possibly do that.

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I don't think they will do that, you can verify every bet, and the casino has no access to that its the game provider and if the game is in house there is a seed that you can verify that, and no one complaints here that he cannot win because he comes from this country, it hard to prove that, we don't like manipulation, someone should come out with a proof that some casino is doing that, we can come out a lot of conspiracy theory but without proof its a theory.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

This is manipulation and unfair if someone will come out and tell us that some casinos are doing it, and he has proof we will all be shaken, but I have not seen any accusation yet, its still not in existence we all know that some casinos are delaying payment or have bad supports or not paying their winners and giving false accusations but manipulating certain people from their location not to win big has to be proven first, but so far every bet can be verified so no chance for this kind of manipulation.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Well there are definitely some online gambling casinos which tend to act on bad faith and follow some rather shady/bad business practices. That much is true. Although the better known casinos do not do this.

But when it comes to those smaller, less known casinos who don't know how to run a good business, they will usually find any reason they can to stall or avoid paying their players for whatever reason they can find. Although as far as locations go, you could just use a VPN to hide your location. So I am not sure how reliable the data is on that. I do not doubt that they find devious ways to swindle players out of money.

But again, this goes for the bad casinos. The bigger, well known ones do not do this.

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Quote from: 348Judah on November 02, 2022, 09:25:45 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 02, 2022, 02:34:12 AM

If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

Normally i Casino has no right to denied any gambler right in claiming his winnings because of geographical location and this shouldn't be a barrier for a gambler to claim his win, they can refer the gambler for security reasons and make it official, as to the best of my knowledge most casinos don't award big winnings in their local offices, they will always make a need for the provisioned to be transferred.

Casinos do not have the right to refuse gamblers who want to withdraw their winnings but we know that casinos have their own rules. And if they think a gambler is violating rules, they can not allow the gambler to withdraw his winnings. And we have also seen how this happens to many gamblers who complain to this forum.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 02, 2022, 02:34:12 AM

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.

Except for the scamming casinos will act such a way without presenting winners their winnings, reporting to the local authorities isn't effective enough to tackle this, but one can also take a legal action against them if such could happens, let also try to investigate on the kind of particular casino we make use of in playing our gamble in other to avoid future disappointments of such manners from any.

Casino scammers can withhold winning money easily and won't allow them to take it out of their casino. And I think that instead of having problems in the future, we should not have to look for casino sites from other places because, in this forum, there are so many casinos that can be recommendations for us to choose a good casino. This will help us to stay away from those fraudulent casinos.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

We didn't know that yet OP but what we only know is that once a slot game is provably fair, the casino doesn't have a control about the results and we can always verify each of the results that we get to see if it's manipulated or not. It was only our luck are the ones that limits us if how low or high we can win every time we step on the gambling arena.

Why you suddenly think of this anyway? Are you wondering that some gamblers on other countries can be able to win big but you can not? Casinos themselves can always restrict the players' country right at the start, if they think they will be in trouble once that player win huge but there is also KYC which can allow the player to bypass this restrictions.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 01, 2022, 04:25:51 AM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Isn't it a unfair practice though if casino's are deliberately doing it?

What if someone find out or some insider leaked that out? for sure the reputation of that casino will be hit hard. I know that we don't have any sources about this thing, but for me casino's are not that stupid do to this kind of thing.

They can still make a lot of money without being resorting to this kind of algorithm, just saying.

True, they are running a long term based kind of business which they wouldnt really be doing bullshit things for the benefit of that possible revenue which they could eventually earn along the way if they wanted to.
Casinos now are mostly been regulated which it would be always normal to think or assume that they do really abide on laws and regulations that had been set out.It would really be followed if they wont or dont really
like on having those potential headaches and issues might be raised if certain informations would be leaked out just in case.If they are aware about those restricted countries or those limitations
then its no brainer that they would really be implying it and would be likely on running the business for long term.

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Quote from: kamvreto on November 01, 2022, 11:01:57 AM

Quote from: livingfree on November 01, 2022, 08:16:41 AM

~snip~The only thing that casino is concerned about are the countries that they're prohibiting to gain access on them. But there are some that still allows it through the usage of VPN.

well, it's a clear rule that those who don't have access or have their access blocked and use a VPN won't get any specials or waivers on big unpaid wins.

Yeah, they won't be getting those special promos and offers from those that are not from restricted countries. But if you're a gambler and you want to play on that certain casino, that won't matter to you as long as you're allowed to gamble there with the use of VPN.

Quote from: kamvreto on November 01, 2022, 11:01:57 AM

Actually they don't want to do restrictions, this is only because the regulations of each country are different and the blocking is done. Casinos have their own algorithms and they make them for their benefit as well as for the benefit of the players. The more players that enter, the more profits.

They have to comply to the regulators if they're not allowed to operate there or if there's a conflict of interest that's being applied to these casinos.

That's the only incentive that they can give from those players from restricted area, if they have an option to allow them.

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Quote from: Doell on November 02, 2022, 08:55:26 AM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it is also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I've never heard of such a case in crypto online casinos, by using an algorithm to limit winnings, isn't that forbidden that's not fair the casino you mean even is not worth it. Regarding the amounts of crypto withdrawals, it should be the same limit as users in legal gambling countries if it's a different possibility is fiat money only but for crypto the same limit.

Fairness should be implemented for everyone who is playing on the gambling site. Their fair treatment of their players when it comes to winning withdrawals regardless of their country will reflect on their reputation. There are already countries that restrict some casino games from specific providers but implementing algorithms with unfair payment is too unjustifiable.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 02, 2022, 02:34:12 AM

If it is a local casino, they may use it to limit the amount of money the winner can withdraw or limit the winning money that the gambler can win. But if it's from a casino site, I think it will be difficult but the casino can easily not allow the winner to withdraw his winnings and use various excuses not to pay his winnings.

Normally i Casino has no right to denied any gambler right in claiming his winnings because of geographical location and this shouldn't be a barrier for a gambler to claim his win, they can refer the gambler for security reasons and make it official, as to the best of my knowledge most casinos don't award big winnings in their local offices, they will always make a need for the provisioned to be transferred.

Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 02, 2022, 02:34:12 AM

And if it happens at a local casino, maybe the winner can report it to the local government to investigate so that the authority can ask the casino and the winner can get the total winnings. But I also do not understand legal issues like this.

Except for the scamming casinos will act such a way without presenting winners their winnings, reporting to the local authorities isn't effective enough to tackle this, but one can also take a legal action against them if such could happens, let also try to investigate on the kind of particular casino we make use of in playing our gamble in other to avoid future disappointments of such manners from any.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 04:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I've never heard of such a case in crypto online casinos, by using an algorithm to limit winnings, isn't that forbidden that's not fair the casino you mean even is not worth it. Regarding the amounts of crypto withdrawals it should be the same limit as users in legal gambling countries, if it's different possibility is fiat money only but for crypto all same limit.

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