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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Many casinos have already restricted players from specific countries. So whenever you visit a gambling site or casino and if by chance they have blocked your country, then you won’t be able to visit the site only at first place. Moreover if anyhow you bypass it using VPN, then they gonna ask you for KYC and hence block your funds if you have violated their terms of conduct and services. This is what I know from my knowledge. I don’t know if they have country limit for specific users. Yes they have bet limits on new accounts, as to prevent cheating and fixbets scenes.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I think something like this isn't impossible in informatics. If the programmer wants to add this rule to the code, he can. However, I think it's not interesting for the casino to do this. It doesn't make much sense to say the truth. If someone is going to have issues with authorities it's going to be the gambler, not the casino, because it's the gambler who has obligations with the local regulators when declaring how much money he is making in a yearly basis. Moreover, most slots games are provided by third party services to casinos' platforms, so casinos would need a partnership why such services in order to boycott players from determined countries, what is really unlikely and compromising for the services providers' reputation on the industry as a whole.

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Quote from: 348Judah on December 22, 2022, 11:24:42 AM

Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

Exactly. This is just it, no way around why people would think it's the house messing up with them and coveting their "well-deserved" wins from them. They make excuses for themselves and puts the blame on other people instead of taking accountability and owning up to their losses. Rookie mistake. Rule of thumb, if you gamble, don't gamble to win unless you're scarface or something. Gamble to have fun. Because gambling for profits will just disappoint you ten times over and may leave you addicted to getting that "one last clincher bet that will breakeven my losses"

Gambling for fun will give us a pleasant feeling that doesn't think about how we can win from that gambling game.
We have to realize that when we lose, it's because we're unlucky and not because the casino is preventing us from winning, let alone changing its algorithm to prevent players from getting big wins.
And if we don't want to get disappointed from losing gambling, we should gamble with the money we can afford so that if we lose, we will accept the defeat and can leave the casino without feeling disappointed.
And don't say one last bet by placing an all-in bet because that won't give you good results either.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on December 22, 2022, 04:54:26 PM

Yes, you can bypass the KYC verification but that is very risky when you get caught because there are too many factors that you get caught.
We know that the casino will ask to enhance verification when you will win big, if that is so, how you will continue to provide data knowing that you only bypass the verification, it sounds risky but you should know this from the start. The casino is designed to gain profit but not the gambler, the gambler's purpose is to have entertainment and that is the fact. So the location does not matter to me if you will win or not, it is expecting that the chances of winning is very small in gambling because gambling are here to make profit on us.

I am sure that the casino will not be reluctant to block a large amount of money if the user has any pending KYC.
Properly regulated casinos are, in most countries, under a lot of pressure from governments and regulatory bodies, so KYC is a legal way for them to try to protect themselves from any criminal prosecution in this regard.

Everyone who enters a centralized and properly regulated casino knows that they are subject to KYC realization sooner or later, and should be sure that this is inevitable if they need to withdraw a large amount of money.

Just a piece of advice: Never use false data, because if this is discovered it is highly likely that you will never be able to recover the money that is blocked.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

Again, That's the same reason why every casino should get registered and licensed by the designated commissions in charge of that in their country. No one would drag anyone in a bid of creating an escalation to whether or not a casino paid them too much funds from their winnings; it's the casino that sets a barrier on that to avoid some certain abuse or a user going as much as wagering some hundreds and thousands on a single, sure odd -- hoping to get 'em tripled when it cuts -- yeah, most times it does so the casino would simply run bankrupt.... That's exactly the bone of contention here. The same reason why every casino don't let loose their options; I still remember when I worked as a cashier -- I realized that alot of options are opted out, that's actually in a bid to STOP LOSS.
They've also got T/C's right?? That's it.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 18, 2022, 11:34:11 AM

Monitoring a particular account statement is part of keeping the country or a particular locality safe, due to the alarming news of online crises everywhere. I don't think this should call for the restriction of individuals from such a locality. When a locality performs KYC verification on its citizen, I believe every information needed about a particular transaction is gotten; as such, the citizen has no problem and this has nothing to do with the Casino. It is apparently inappropriate for a Casino to restrict its customer due to community terms.

I wnst you to know that not all KYC verification i a given platform is accurate, because, i believe that KYC verification of a platform can be man over by using another fake documentation, yes it's true that when done KYC verification with a platform it will likely show that information processed through upload of your details will indicates or identify the nation you came from, why some people do use another nation information to verify their account without facial contact verification.

Yes, you can bypass the KYC verification but that is very risky when you get caught because there are too many factors that you get caught.
We know that the casino will ask to enhance verification when you will win big, if that is so, how you will continue to provide data knowing that you only bypass the verification, it sounds risky but you should know this from the start. The casino is designed to gain profit but not the gambler, the gambler's purpose is to have entertainment and that is the fact. So the location does not matter to me if you will win or not, it is expecting that the chances of winning is very small in gambling because gambling are here to make profit on us.

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Quote from: minime0105 on December 22, 2022, 04:29:19 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on December 18, 2022, 11:34:11 AM

Monitoring a particular account statement is part of keeping the country or a particular locality safe, due to the alarming news of online crises everywhere. I don't think this should call for the restriction of individuals from such a locality. When a locality performs KYC verification on its citizen, I believe every information needed about a particular transaction is gotten; as such, the citizen has no problem and this has nothing to do with the Casino. It is apparently inappropriate for a Casino to restrict its customer due to community terms.

I wnst you to know that not all KYC verification i a given platform is accurate, because, i believe that KYC verification of a platform can be man over by using another fake documentation, yes it's true that when done KYC verification with a platform it will likely show that information processed through upload of your details will indicates or identify the nation you came from, why some people do use another nation information to verify their account without facial contact verification.

Its one of the bypass of these verification if ever they would be asking out, but we arent that dumb on not to know about its con's considering that on the time you would really be again verify
then this is where you do see yourself getting fucked up.Its just common sense that we dont really like for our identity on getting exposed on which it is really that understandable
that other people would really be using up others identity just to bypass into something and its impossible that they wouldnt really be able to know the possible risk
or problem that lies ahead.

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Quote from: 348Judah on December 22, 2022, 11:24:42 AM

Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

Exactly. This is just it, no way around why people would think it's the house messing up with them and coveting their "well-deserved" wins from them. They make excuses for themselves and puts the blame on other people instead of taking accountability and owning up to their losses. Rookie mistake. Rule of thumb, if you gamble, don't gamble to win unless you're scarface or something. Gamble to have fun. Because gambling for profits will just disappoint you ten times over and may leave you addicted to getting that "one last clincher bet that will breakeven my losses"

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 18, 2022, 11:34:11 AM

Monitoring a particular account statement is part of keeping the country or a particular locality safe, due to the alarming news of online crises everywhere. I don't think this should call for the restriction of individuals from such a locality. When a locality performs KYC verification on its citizen, I believe every information needed about a particular transaction is gotten; as such, the citizen has no problem and this has nothing to do with the Casino. It is apparently inappropriate for a Casino to restrict its customer due to community terms.

I wnst you to know that not all KYC verification i a given platform is accurate, because, i believe that KYC verification of a platform can be man over by using another fake documentation, yes it's true that when done KYC verification with a platform it will likely show that information processed through upload of your details will indicates or identify the nation you came from, why some people do use another nation information to verify their account without facial contact verification.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 01, 2022, 05:23:45 AM

I do not know about those illegally operated casinos, but if a casino has a licence and operate legally, it would be in the ToS that certain regions or countries are not allowed to make use of their gambling services. This would help against what you are talking about as they operate legally. Which means all money won by customers has nothing to do with the regulators or governments than paying tax.

I agree with this. I think locations do not matter on the winning amount the players can win because the casinos are to decide on it overall speaking. If there's one thing that would vary is that the games that can be played and the operation of the casino in different countries.

This is because in some countries, they allow gambling but only to a certain extent and only to specif kinds of games. And there are also countries that do not really permit the operations of casinos. In this case, you'll see that it is stated in their TOS that they do not operate in countries because of banning issue and the likes.

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Gamblers should stop and avoid looking for excuses to the failures for their winnings, there are no barriers be it small or big that can hinders a gambler from winning an online game henplayed, the ideology is simple, if you're good at doing it (gambling) there's high probabilities for you to win and if you jad problems with compliance to understand the ways it's been played, you may less have opportunities to win, location barrier should be in favour of those that are into offline gambling or casino house gamblings and not the online one.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on December 22, 2022, 12:32:43 AM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on December 18, 2022, 09:39:44 AM

At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.

You can find it yourself on the terms of service on each casino, they usually have different tiers of limitation. Like the absolute restriction where people who came from this country aren't allowed to gamble at all, less restriction where people who came from this country need to submit KYC since this regions has high criminal and money laundering case, and then restrictions about some games for specific regions since gambling providers has their own rules too.

Each casino has its own rules that will not be the same and it is also possible that the casino will limit the amount of winnings each player from a different country can obtain. We also won't know if the casino does something like that and we can only speculate without knowing the truth. But instead of considering those restrictions, we need to play and enjoy our time. When it's time to win, we will win and vice versa.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on December 18, 2022, 09:39:44 AM

At the very beginning of their sign-up, they should tell them which country is restricted to them so that those who try to create an account on their platform will not waste or even try, not when they have won a large amount of money then they will say that the country he is in is restricted, so that they appear like a gambler.

You can find it yourself on the terms of service on each casino, they usually have different tiers of limitation. Like the absolute restriction where people who came from this country aren't allowed to gamble at all, less restriction where people who came from this country need to submit KYC since this regions has high criminal and money laundering case, and then restrictions about some games for specific regions since gambling providers has their own rules too.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

the answer is clear , WHo really knows ? technology inside casino games are hard to understand as the experts behind those games are the reason why casino owners continues to become richer while players loses .
and also even Physical casinos have their ways in beating gamblers so the real thing? the games are designed for them to take our money and that is the truth .

There are certain games which you cant really be able to make out some verification or proving it out that it is really that fair aside from those providers and those game programmers and software thingy.

But they wont really be making it out too obvious which they do really still let some players do win up some nasty amounts which would really be hooking up more players to play a game whether
on slots or other luck based ones.
If we do speak about House edge then it is really just that standard, for a business like this then it would really be just that understandable.

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 04, 2022, 06:02:48 PM

That's probably just a thought and we'll never know unless someone who works for a casino tells that they're doing it but for now, I think that they're not doing it.
But there's a sort of idea that whenever someone has been winning a lot, regardless of his location, there goes the algo that they might have detected it and they start to lessen the chance of winning. At least this is only for luck-based games and we all knew that it's not going to be a lucky day forever.

If I also think the same as you, in fact many years ago I always went with a friend to a casino that we had near the University, at that time we had not been going for more than 2 months, but each one of us knew how to divide in order to win, sometimes we learned patterns and looked for roulette when there were many people, when there were many at roulette it was more likely for us to win, and we did that, so every time we went we had a very good streak, so that was something we already did We looked like an ATM, that allowed us to see our behavior perhaps on cameras, then some time after finishing some midterm exams we came back and they didn't let us in.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

No, I'll explain why it's impossible.

If the game is provably fair like Dice, etc then you can simply verify your bets and hence it's impossible to offer extra to a particular region. If the game is not provably fair it's most likely a third party slot provider like Nolimit City, Hacksaw, etc who have a set RTP for each of their games and they provide gaming service to casinos and can't what player from which location accessed and played their games.

Yeah it may be entirely possible and ethical to offer extra bonuses & generous welcome offers to players from a particular region and that I believe is fine because bonuses are something at the discretion of the casino.

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Quote from: btc78 on December 19, 2022, 11:15:05 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

the answer is clear , WHo really knows ? technology inside casino games are hard to understand as the experts behind those games are the reason why casino owners continues to become richer while players loses .
and also even Physical casinos have their ways in beating gamblers so the real thing? the games are designed for them to take our money and that is the truth .

While other experts who want to unravel such things will also not be easy to find because it means those experts have to go inside the casino and examine the algorithms more deeply. Meanwhile, casinos will always check for security holes in their sites so that no one can penetrate them. It's better that we don't have to think about whether something like that exists in some casinos or applies to all because it won't be easy to find out and find it. We must know that a casino is a place of business that wants to benefit from losing gamblers.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

the answer is clear , WHo really knows ? technology inside casino games are hard to understand as the experts behind those games are the reason why casino owners continues to become richer while players loses .
and also even Physical casinos have their ways in beating gamblers so the real thing? the games are designed for them to take our money and that is the truth .

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All we have is just speculation and has no proven facts that casinos are cheating their players by limiting wins in certain regions. I don't know why the casino will be selective in this process when they can just put winning limits to all regions but of course reputable casino don't do that else they might be found out if a surprise audit is done to their system.

As far as I know, every region has seeds, and in every session, these seeds change. It is possible that a person can get a good seed regardless of his location. So a player in x location can win huge amount of money while a player on y location will not. Then the situation may interchange because of the randomness of seed that is triggered every time each player starts their gambling session.

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Quote from: Woodie on November 01, 2022, 05:16:06 AM

You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?

I think some online casinos are designed an house edge in order to maintain their profits to their side. Maybe it is not in the form of algorithms but tit definitely has the device of having the edge on their side. Though this is the first time that I have heard about restricting their locations via changing their percentages of winning to their advantage in the event that the player is registered in a country that prohibits gambling.

Though this may be the case, I doubt that online gambling companies have such system stored and implemented. At the end of the day, if the person who gambles won but it was subsequently discovered that his act of gambling is prohibited, then the law enforcements of his/her country would do the rest of the arrests.

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